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posted ago by sfmaga +34 / -0

I'm explaining recent pedo Hunter news to someone. Their points were as follows:

  • How can this be proven true?
  • Since election is close, both parties will be claiming dirt on the other
  • If fbi have it, why didn't they say anything? probably because it's untrue
  • Twitter had to ban that site because of disinformation
  • The news say Rudy Giuliani is corrupt and his own daughter is voting biden
  • What does it matter what hunter did, just look at Melania's own dirty past.

Basically, if any of the fake news isn't covering it, it must not be true. Also, everybody is corrupt and biased, but things about Trump are probably true since he's Trump...

Think it's worth it to explain?

I'm explaining recent pedo Hunter news to someone. Their points were as follows: - How can this be proven true? - Since election is close, both parties will be claiming dirt on the other - If fbi have it, why didn't they say anything? probably because it's untrue - Twitter had to ban that site because of disinformation - The news say Rudy Giuliani is corrupt and his own daughter is voting biden - What does it matter what hunter did, just look at Melania's own dirty past. Basically, if any of the fake news isn't covering it, it must not be true. Also, everybody is corrupt and biased, but things about Trump are probably true since he's Trump... Think it's worth it to explain?
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BasedCause 5 points ago +5 / -0
  • How can this be proven true? DKIM data on the eMails, iMessage backups, iPhoto backups, EXIF data, etc. They may have even gotten stuff after the laptop was sent to the repair shop if it was still linked to his apple account.

  • Since election is close, both parties will be claiming dirt on the other So what If it's true does it make it any less damning depending on the source

  • If fbi have it, why didn't they say anything? FBI will not comment on any open case. Case is not closed yet.

  • Twitter had to ban that site because of disinformation Twitter is biased, proven with undercover footage. FBI/DOJ/DNI have all said it is not a disinformation campaign

  • The news say Rudy Giuliani is corrupt and his own daughter is voting biden The news won't run the story and this is their way of saying why they are pushing it under the rug.

  • What does it matter what hunter did, just look at Melania's own dirty past. The data implicates Joe in various illegal/morally corrupt activity. Asking about Melania is a whataboutism

Edit: The formatting on this keeps getting clobbered

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sfmaga [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

More or less the responses given! Logical and the truth.

The obstacle in this conversation, even with these points, was frankly a lack of common sense and their dependance on the msm. A stubborn and ignorant position of 'msm says this is fake' -> 'msm is biased and corrupt though' -> 'just Trump talking point.'

More entertaining than anything else really at this point.

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Bobb 3 points ago +3 / -0

Melania doesn’t have a dirty past. She was a model...

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sfmaga [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The comparison of a model to a corrupt crack-addict was indeed laughable.

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how_could 2 points ago +2 / -0

Somehow we have to charge members of the press with conspiracy. There's never going to be a reckoning in the sheep's mind if their "trustworthy new sites" all conspire to hide this info. Repeal the Smith Mundt modernization act and make any confirmable act of propagandizing (especially against our sitting duly elected president) retroactive in punishment.

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philandy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would just ask just like Kavanaugh shouldn't it simply go to trial so we can get these answers? With child abuse, why didn't the FBI do something last year?

Also, there's a lot more news sites, like the NY Post is reputable. Why do news sources disagree?

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MsAnthropic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ask them: given that it’s true that MSM & big tech lean massively, provably left (proved by donation records, public statements, Project Veritas etc), if the email story WAS true, wouldn’t it be suppressed and denied exactly like what you’re seeing? Remind them that Joe Biden has NOT said the emails are fake. He’s said “it’s a smear campaign” but he has NOT said they’re fake. If they were fake wouldn’t that be the first thing he’d say? Ask your friend why they think Obama didn’t endorse Joe until he absolutely had to, until all the other candidates dropped out. Ask them why Joe took a four-day break from campaigning as soon as the story broke, two weeks out from the election. Ask them if Joe would bass his entire campaign on a lie, on the “fine people” hoax, what makes them think he wouldn’t lie to protect his own family. Ask them how they explain Joe being worth millions and millions on a Congress salary. Ask them how a crackhead like Hunter gets the Chinese government to invest $1.5 BILLION in his startup just after his visit with Joe. Ask them why they hate legal immigrants just try to make a new life for themselves, like Melania. Ask them if they understand that the problem isn’t Hunter’s personal problems, it’s that he was the bagman for Joe selling public office.

Ask them what would it take to convince them the story is true - if the answer is “nothing would convince me” then you know you’re wasting your time. You’re almost certainly wasting your time.

Btw I love how Rudy’s daughter voting for Biden proves Rudy is “corrupt” but Hunter being a crackhead bag man doesn’t mean anything... 🤦🏻‍♀️

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sfmaga [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, most of the time my reaction is 🤦🏻‍♀️.

I guess this is an example of someone I'd call a non-political, headline reader. Meaning they're not planning to vote and don't really know all the details of mostly all of the topics you've listed. I'm talking not even really understanding left-right differences. I believe they're truly neither for nor against Trump, yet entirely pick up only headlines from msm.

I'm certain the similarly non-informed voters make up a huge portion of all voters, and this is an example of how they may take this news. Or at least, I hope most of them don't take it this way!

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MsAnthropic 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they’re not planning to vote, maybe ask them apart from all the noise what do they really care about? Is there anything that would get them to vote (for Trump, obviously!)

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sfmaga [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

They did say if this news were true, it'd be horrifying. I usually go for just all the disgusting things Dems do as a way to see Trump as their better alternative.

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MsAnthropic 1 point ago +1 / -0

One of the huge achievements of the Trump administration that never gets reported is his attacks on child trafficking. That’s a big reason why he built the wall, to stop women & girls being trafficked across the border. He’s done amazing work re human trafficking, Ivanka has been a part of it too. Heaps of EOs, a couple of taskforces on various fronts, literally hundreds of arrests and thousands of children saved - and crickets from the MSM.