However, the free market, capitalist in me doesn't find much wrong with the nuts and bolts of what Google did.
Revenue sharing? Ok..not a big deal. Plenty of companies pay sales commissions and finder's fees. Hell, even in my own little corner of the world, at my company, we've got sales reps who get commissions. We've got distribution agreements with other companies to distribute our products and/or get paid a percentage of a sale.
Paying to make google default search?
Ehh.. not ideal, but smart people like us know to switch that to DuckDuckGo.
I DO have a problem, as mentioned above, with how "normies" get their information. But that's not a liberal thing or a google thing; the masses have been consuming mainstream news infotainment forever!
How many of you know "conservatives" who've watched Fox News for decades?
Some of my own family, who all voted for Trump, were AGAINST Trump in 2015-2016 during the primaries, because Fox was clearly supporting Bush, Rubio and Cruz.
Anywho, I'd like to have read this article and thought "Good!" But I don't agree.
And on Breitbart, the top comment is about repealing Section 230.
I'll refer you all to Dan Bongino's podcast #1373 for a beautiful explanation of why Section 230 should NOT be repealed.
(Bongino is an investor in Parler, and he is very strongly AGAINST changing section 230. He thinks it should stay the same. He says they should have filters so you simply mute or ignore people and topics you don't like. Listen to the podcast for his explanation!)
Google also made a number of revenue sharing agreements with major mobile carriers to block competing search engines and browsers, the Justice Department stated.
I agree up to the point where google paid companies to block access to competitor search engines. Its no free-market anything to slowly build a prison around your customers so they cant leave. No choice in the hands of the people, captured customers mean they are prone to any monopoly abuse that google wants to inflict on them etc.
I have that shit deactivated. It's the first thing I do when I get a new phone.
I happened to be a team lunch when one of my coworkers got a "breaking" notification on his phone that Trump was being transported to Walter Reed hospital and the team acted like they had just been informed via the emergency alert service that he died. It was a good reminder how absolutely psychologically damaging tech + msm is designed to be.
Of course they did. They acted like his death had been announced and then considered for a hot second whether they should have compassion and quickly ruled it out.
What a wild time to be 15... When the world is shoving politics down their throats when they haven't the slightest idea of how the real world operates.
10 years ago when I was that age I was focused on training for hockey, hanging out and doing new stuff with friends and chasing my high school sweetheart. This was normal at that time. Now you must wear a mask and REEE at conservative ideology.
I don't envy the kids today... They really do have an uphill battle towards a mentally stable future.
One of my clients does that. He acts like he’s super political guy and knows what’s up. He started saying stuff that was factually untrue in obvious ways. I asked him where he read that, and he says he reads a set of balanced news sources. I asked where. He said in Google News. I laughed.
He sent me an article about how Kyle was a violent white supremacist. In the first paragraph alone, there were 4-5 factual errors with ample evidence of them being wrong. He eventually felt a lot of cognitive dissonance and stopped talking. I didn’t press him or anything, just told him what was wrong, gave him evidence, and suggested he not use Google News anymore. He didn’t go Trump, but he did stop using it. I didn’t even know that was a thing until he told me.
Yes, but not with him. I’m pretty sure I can red pill him. I’ve probably red pilled thousands of people over the years, intentionally or otherwise, because I interact with a lot of people.
I’m in the Bay of all places, with most people being hyper leftists. I even work with one lady working for the Biden campaign to get young people registered to presumably vote for him. Fittingly, it’s using highly sexualized material in a likely not legal manner. Most people I work with are actually hyper and vocally left. There probably aren’t many days where they’re not mouthing off to blame Trump for everything you can imagine, including the weather.
This guy’s a gun owner though. Guns and ammo are all sold out across the Bay. Huge but silent conservative wave brewing here. He’s left from when that meant anti-establishment. If I can get him to Trump, I’d consider it an achievement. He’s super into conspiracies, so there’s a lot of material for him to that end too.
I've switched from using Google for over 15 years to DDG and have been using it for 3 years now. However I'm trying to make the switch over to SwissCows (https://swisscows.com/?region=en-US) as some pedes here pointed out that DDG is compromised.
Soros foundation has made several contributions to DDG through their Open Source group so yeah...
SwissCows is new to me as well. 4 months ago, I've never heard of SwissCows until I was told that DDG is compromised. I looked up the foundations that have contributed to DDG and I actually found Soros' foundation on the list.
However, SwissCows is a quite different approach to searching so I'm not quite accustomed to that approach but if I can switch from Google after 15+ years to DDG, I can do the same with SwissCows.
As for Brave, that's the browser I'm using right now on my Linux box and it really does the job, blocking unwanted ads and such. You just need to turn off the BAT feature on Brave and use some adblockers. I'd suggest some but apparently my adblocker isn't being mentioned by many here. Others have mentioned uBlocker, AdBlocker etc for which I don't use. I use Ad Nauseam and it really does a terrific job blocking ads.
Could I interest you in a woke Marxist doodle this fine day, good xir? Oh, it's probably a poorly drawn picture of some (insert non-white ethnicity here, preferably female) person that did some random bullshit that's had a negligible impact on our society. It also could be a drawing of our logo, but it's special because it was hand drawn by some poor kid who's mother convinced she/them to cut her/their dick off. Have a nice day shitlord, keep trying and maybe someday you will be as enlightened and virtuous as your benevolent tech overlords!
We also need to make it possible/profitable for smaller companies to invest in the type of technology that drives these platforms. There's not much point hoping for anyone to take their place if they can't compete with no incentives.
I’d happily pay for a sort of “LifeLock” when it comes to data mining, alert me what faggot commie company is hoovering up what info and suggest a course of action.
15 years ago if you told people their phones were listening to their conversations, and all their text messages and emails were being combed through in order to better know what products to advertise to you they would call you crazy.
Google is always listening. Tell you it's for ads only. Would say most of the American population has been "tagged" at this point. Either by Apple or Google.
Any organization not explicitly right-winged will become progressive, and it is effectively illegal to have a right-wing company even if you are explicit.
yah this is some rule named after person who coined it can't remember at the moment. If an org is not explicitly right, then leftists come to dominate the policy and then something something org becomes filled with leftists
The total Corruption of an isolated system is constant; corruption can be transformed from one form to another, but can be neither created nor destroyed.
The total Corruption of an isolated system will never decrease over time
The Corruption of any system approaches zero as the size of government approaches zero.
Any isolated system that can be corrupted, will be corrupted.
Well, I’m not aware of any good options at this point. All the services have been corrupted by left wing ideology. I’ve just learned to read through the lines and game the search engines to give me what I’m actually looking for. It doesn’t always work but aside from trying to start my own search engine, I don’t have much choice.
I don’t use google services anymore, but I really wish I figured that out before I spent basically 2008-2016 using them for everything. They probably know everything about me.
I think they get away with it because people see them as a hardware company more than an information services company which google is primarily, which is true, but yeah Apple is no saint.
I haven't used google in years. Last time i used it my search was literally, not metaphorically, 8 ads, several news articles. Not even sure if i got my result. I just gave up and went back to DDG
You guys should wake the fuck up and go read the Q drops. We've known for a long time Eric Schmitt from Alphabet Agency set up major networks in North Korea the fucking Chinese run. Let's gooo!!!!
And in turn pushed their political ideologies on everyone using a phone as well
Reads only headlines on iPhone News app 3x a day
I'm informed! Trump is a racist, muh russia, Rudy is a pedo, Joe Biden is the GOAT presidential candidate, etc.
That’s EXACTLY how they operate, it’s mind blowing
So, I totally hate google and Alphabet.
However, the free market, capitalist in me doesn't find much wrong with the nuts and bolts of what Google did.
Revenue sharing? Ok..not a big deal. Plenty of companies pay sales commissions and finder's fees. Hell, even in my own little corner of the world, at my company, we've got sales reps who get commissions. We've got distribution agreements with other companies to distribute our products and/or get paid a percentage of a sale.
Paying to make google default search? Ehh.. not ideal, but smart people like us know to switch that to DuckDuckGo.
I DO have a problem, as mentioned above, with how "normies" get their information. But that's not a liberal thing or a google thing; the masses have been consuming mainstream
newsinfotainment forever!How many of you know "conservatives" who've watched Fox News for decades?
Some of my own family, who all voted for Trump, were AGAINST Trump in 2015-2016 during the primaries, because Fox was clearly supporting Bush, Rubio and Cruz.
Anywho, I'd like to have read this article and thought "Good!" But I don't agree.
And on Breitbart, the top comment is about repealing Section 230.
I'll refer you all to Dan Bongino's podcast #1373 for a beautiful explanation of why Section 230 should NOT be repealed.
(Bongino is an investor in Parler, and he is very strongly AGAINST changing section 230. He thinks it should stay the same. He says they should have filters so you simply mute or ignore people and topics you don't like. Listen to the podcast for his explanation!)
I agree up to the point where google paid companies to block access to competitor search engines. Its no free-market anything to slowly build a prison around your customers so they cant leave. No choice in the hands of the people, captured customers mean they are prone to any monopoly abuse that google wants to inflict on them etc.
I have that shit deactivated. It's the first thing I do when I get a new phone.
I happened to be a team lunch when one of my coworkers got a "breaking" notification on his phone that Trump was being transported to Walter Reed hospital and the team acted like they had just been informed via the emergency alert service that he died. It was a good reminder how absolutely psychologically damaging tech + msm is designed to be.
Nothin like cheering on your captain’s death at cruising altitude!
You’ll have that when 80% of your companies workforce consists of foreigners who would love to see the United States fall.
Those women should have nothing desirable. I'd space them, if this was an interstellar cruise.
Bunch of idiots. That's why it was all the more glorious that POTUS was able to defeat the China Flu in a matter of days.
Did they have their party hats and balloons ready for when his condition worsened?
Of course they did. They acted like his death had been announced and then considered for a hot second whether they should have compassion and quickly ruled it out.
i always check that to see what they want me to think. 3 out of the 4 headlines are always anti trump or against america in some way. its crazy
My favorite headline was if ACB gets in as judge the porn industry is finished.
Yeah I thought it was hilarious, lemme see if I can find the article.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/adult-film-stars-speak-amy-185952677.html
sarcasm my bro ;)
How old is the kid?
What a wild time to be 15... When the world is shoving politics down their throats when they haven't the slightest idea of how the real world operates.
10 years ago when I was that age I was focused on training for hockey, hanging out and doing new stuff with friends and chasing my high school sweetheart. This was normal at that time. Now you must wear a mask and REEE at conservative ideology.
I don't envy the kids today... They really do have an uphill battle towards a mentally stable future.
One of my clients does that. He acts like he’s super political guy and knows what’s up. He started saying stuff that was factually untrue in obvious ways. I asked him where he read that, and he says he reads a set of balanced news sources. I asked where. He said in Google News. I laughed.
He sent me an article about how Kyle was a violent white supremacist. In the first paragraph alone, there were 4-5 factual errors with ample evidence of them being wrong. He eventually felt a lot of cognitive dissonance and stopped talking. I didn’t press him or anything, just told him what was wrong, gave him evidence, and suggested he not use Google News anymore. He didn’t go Trump, but he did stop using it. I didn’t even know that was a thing until he told me.
Aren't u afraid of LOSING clients by engaging in such conversations with them?
Yes, but not with him. I’m pretty sure I can red pill him. I’ve probably red pilled thousands of people over the years, intentionally or otherwise, because I interact with a lot of people.
I’m in the Bay of all places, with most people being hyper leftists. I even work with one lady working for the Biden campaign to get young people registered to presumably vote for him. Fittingly, it’s using highly sexualized material in a likely not legal manner. Most people I work with are actually hyper and vocally left. There probably aren’t many days where they’re not mouthing off to blame Trump for everything you can imagine, including the weather.
This guy’s a gun owner though. Guns and ammo are all sold out across the Bay. Huge but silent conservative wave brewing here. He’s left from when that meant anti-establishment. If I can get him to Trump, I’d consider it an achievement. He’s super into conspiracies, so there’s a lot of material for him to that end too.
Android is basically Google these days. Google is always listening and watching.
Google owns Android.
Yep, and even if you attempt to 'tweak' your interests, they discount their algorithm against right-leaning news so it doesn't carry as much weight.
All while they still push their left-wing ideologies.
I detest Google. DuckDuckGo is what I use now. It takes a few days to get used to but I've forgotten about Google.
Agree the rare times I see google results it’s a total wtf.
Google is a terrible search engine.
Again Google created and owns Android. Google is not just a search engine they have hundreds of products.
Here's some of them https://about.google/intl/en_us/products/
Again Google is not just a search engine. Google created and owns Android operating system. Google has hundreds of products:
https://about.google/intl/en_us/products/
I've switched from using Google for over 15 years to DDG and have been using it for 3 years now. However I'm trying to make the switch over to SwissCows (https://swisscows.com/?region=en-US) as some pedes here pointed out that DDG is compromised.
Soros foundation has made several contributions to DDG through their Open Source group so yeah...
SwissCows is new to me as well. 4 months ago, I've never heard of SwissCows until I was told that DDG is compromised. I looked up the foundations that have contributed to DDG and I actually found Soros' foundation on the list.
However, SwissCows is a quite different approach to searching so I'm not quite accustomed to that approach but if I can switch from Google after 15+ years to DDG, I can do the same with SwissCows.
As for Brave, that's the browser I'm using right now on my Linux box and it really does the job, blocking unwanted ads and such. You just need to turn off the BAT feature on Brave and use some adblockers. I'd suggest some but apparently my adblocker isn't being mentioned by many here. Others have mentioned uBlocker, AdBlocker etc for which I don't use. I use Ad Nauseam and it really does a terrific job blocking ads.
Sure you can, a phone running Lineage OS and NO google apps!
I don't want to escape it. Google is the best search engine and it isn't even close. Bing blows and so does DuckDuckGo.
Could I interest you in a woke Marxist doodle this fine day, good xir? Oh, it's probably a poorly drawn picture of some (insert non-white ethnicity here, preferably female) person that did some random bullshit that's had a negligible impact on our society. It also could be a drawing of our logo, but it's special because it was hand drawn by some poor kid who's mother convinced she/them to cut her/their dick off. Have a nice day shitlord, keep trying and maybe someday you will be as enlightened and virtuous as your benevolent tech overlords!
Repeat x 365
...and in some cases are required to use.
You'd make Richard Stallman proud lol
We also need to make it possible/profitable for smaller companies to invest in the type of technology that drives these platforms. There's not much point hoping for anyone to take their place if they can't compete with no incentives.
I’d happily pay for a sort of “LifeLock” when it comes to data mining, alert me what faggot commie company is hoovering up what info and suggest a course of action.
Haha, yes I am. I don't live in Britain though.
15 years ago if you told people their phones were listening to their conversations, and all their text messages and emails were being combed through in order to better know what products to advertise to you they would call you crazy.
Google is always listening. Tell you it's for ads only. Would say most of the American population has been "tagged" at this point. Either by Apple or Google.
The honest truth of it
DuckDuckGo
How does this keep happening
Any organization not explicitly right-winged will become progressive, and it is effectively illegal to have a right-wing company even if you are explicit.
yah this is some rule named after person who coined it can't remember at the moment. If an org is not explicitly right, then leftists come to dominate the policy and then something something org becomes filled with leftists
I mean, it's still a pretty good search engine. I use it just to get better results.
I disagree...it's just Bing results. Compare it yourself and you'll see what I mean.
Those are still better than Google imo, stuff I search for gets hidden on Google.
Yes, without the tracking
Yup.
The same with AOL and Yahoo, they all use Bing.
It's only Bing vs Google at this point.
I use Indian search engines now. Not kidding. No lefties, no commies. India is very based.
Jai Hind!
Any recommendations? I have ddg as default in my phone now I'm not sure anymore what to use
Baidu?
*deports self*
I guess i can use baidu to type in 'free helicopter rides' and see what pops up
Search.maga.host, not sure if you can set it as default though. There’s also Qwant, Metager, and Swisscows.
thanks
Some pedes suggested this to me the last time we had a search engine discussion, which is Swiss Cows.
https://swisscows.com/?region=en-US
I use yandex for certain shit that western search engines seem to crack down on
Url plz
Well, I’m not aware of any good options at this point. All the services have been corrupted by left wing ideology. I’ve just learned to read through the lines and game the search engines to give me what I’m actually looking for. It doesn’t always work but aside from trying to start my own search engine, I don’t have much choice.
Nah bro, askjeeves is where it's at
Lycos
Metacrawler
Best stick to Altavista in these trying times.
That creep always installed other crap on your computer.
searx FTW!
just like CNN paying airports to play them
ill bet this is a lot of taxpayer money they are using too
Let me guess, they're gonna fine them millions for their crimes while they rake in billions?
like the 3rd oldest business model in the world
The maximum fine under the Sherman act is 100 million dollars. The real interest of the lawsuit would be a breakup of the company.
I don’t use google services anymore, but I really wish I figured that out before I spent basically 2008-2016 using them for everything. They probably know everything about me.
Google also pays Apple $7 Billion a year to be the default search engine: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/06/08/apple-could-cost-google-15-billion-by-buying-duckduckgo-analyst-says/#29764d611920
It's all about eyeballs on advertisements (that and pushing their woke culture)
they pay firefox too
This lawsuit better provide some fucking results
strongly worded letter has entered the chat
The Truth About the Department of Justice vs Google
https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share
Google has 92.26% of Search Engine Market Share Worldwide - September 2020
All that money works to throttle conservative voices as well, and our federal representatives twiddle their thumbs in response.
ENEMY OF THE USA
Google is not a conduit. It's a boa constrictor. Revoke it's 230 immunity.
So what kind of damn mobile phone am I supposed to buy?!? Seems I'm screwed every way I go.
Still an Android-based one since you can do what you want how you want when you want.
If you want to root it and really start taking control don't get a US variant of Samsung's phones because Samsung locks the bootloader.
Research what others have done. I've not been able to figure out out for myself yet.
You can change your default search engine in Safari to DDG, Bing, etc.
Google is paying them to start you off with Google search, but you can change it to another search engine.
On iPhone: Settings>Safari>Search Engine
By design
I mean people go on about Google but not many people ever talk about Apple.
Because apple doesn't license iOS to other hardware manufacturers or have their own search.
I think they get away with it because people see them as a hardware company more than an information services company which google is primarily, which is true, but yeah Apple is no saint.
They did publicly fight the FBI over unlocking the iPhone though, mostly because they claimed they couldn't.
Yep break them apart
In 2016 they rolled out the google amp service to make links harder to share to help slow the spread of the Podesta emails via sms text.
Its not about the bottom line though, there's some nefarious agents at play here.
Duck duck go has a very decent app. I still use Chrome but only if I need bookmarks from other devices. 7/10 I use the DDG app/search.
Fuck Google.
Use Brave, my fren. Especially if you're using Android.
Let's you get YouTube premium features with background playback on YouTube and blocks ads by default.
Thank you I'll try it now!
Let me know if you have questions and I'll be happy to try to help
Thanks! I have it downloaded I guess I'll get it on my desktop than import all my passwords and bookmarks.
Fuck Samsung
What do they have to do with this?
I haven't used google in years. Last time i used it my search was literally, not metaphorically, 8 ads, several news articles. Not even sure if i got my result. I just gave up and went back to DDG
Using DuckDuckGo now. Much better at finding "go fuck yourself" articles.
Say hi to the 90s for me, Alphabet.
Who even uses search engines anymore? Don't y'all just type the address? Bookmarks? There's not been anything new on the Internet for 20 years.
The site search is helpful when it works.
I use Bing or duckduckgo most of the time, but Google is useful for searching within sites with the site:website.com [search term] tool.
Duck. Duck. Go.
Hmmmmm.....
level playing field.
Break up this shitty monopoly. At the same time give justice to Microsoft for going through this same ordeal.
Normal isn't the same as legal according to the DOJ.
This is just like the “rebates” the Standard Oil Company paid to the railroads.
That's a really good deal for them tbh. Only 1 bill?
use searx, you'll be pressed to find something censored https://searx.space/#
You guys should wake the fuck up and go read the Q drops. We've known for a long time Eric Schmitt from Alphabet Agency set up major networks in North Korea the fucking Chinese run. Let's gooo!!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jan/07/google-eric-schmidt-trip-pyongyang