Combination of things really - packet sequence, endpoint fingerprinting, temporal correlation, implants, humint and sigint, back doors in infrastructure and more. Not for nothing but Iran quite often doesn’t really hide behind VPN. They’re pretty brazen about things. I’ve seen it first hand. Now the real question, do you trust the Feds to be truthful and accurate - I surely do not.
How would you propose they do that? ISP logs of some kind?
At the international level, they can simply do it at their inner connects. Pretty much all telecom carriers and backbone providers have what's called 'the closet' which is where the tapping takes place, unlike the days of POTS. Fiber tapping is far easier, and there's no way to tell for it's happening since there's no loss in the fiber channels attenuation. And unless either the company itself spills it, someone on the inside does, or the government does, it's pretty much impossible to know it's happening.
AT&T got busted for it back in the mid-00's if I remember right by a whistleblower, because a letter agency was doing it blanket on American citizens.
Well email which is what this is, is still pretty much unencrypted. Even your basic sandvine boxes from 10 years ago can tell what traffic is being sent, and in the cases of the 3rd world with embargos on various types of encryption? It's sure pretty easy to break it.
it depends... Can a super power like the US get that information yes some of your random nerds living in their mother basements have done stuff like that But the question is Can they do it no matter what country that VPN company is located in legally??? That's another question. If they can't get it legally then it turns into another debate. I agree with you I don't trust this report at alll.. This report screams Deepstate panic because President Trump is going to be re elected.
This. This is what the original Russia crap was about as well 8chan users making memes with a vpn. Complete garbage useless agencies. Disband them all. This came into the news to try and over take the hunter Biden shit
It's a mistake to think the FBI speaks with one voice. In an ideal world they wouldn't make public statements at all. However usually they are allied with the administration and messages are in sync. Now they are in complete chaos.
FBI is pathetic antifa scum are literally burning and razing American cities and half their resources are on trying to spread bad press on proud boys wtf
I hadn’t heard of this until today, now they’ve found a way to put the proud boys back in the news cycle and give Biden a day off from the laptop from hell.
The FBI is just trying to save their jobs because they’ve been caught covering up every democrat crime in history. With the lamest agitprop in Elbonia.
You won't hear a peep out of this from the left, FBI said BOTH Russia and Iran were working to slander Trump. Lefties will still claim the Hunter emails are a part of Russian disinformation. Even if that were an iota of being the truth, why wasn't that used in the impeachment trial against Trump? Hypocrisy everywhere...
The fact that these messages allegedly originated from "The Proud Boys" is all that you need to know about how much total BS this press conference was when it blamed Iran.
Yep! They are going to go off the word "emails" and claim that the Biden emails are part of the Iran FUD campaign even though the Hunter drives and emails have nothing at all to do with today's brief.
Well I think the obvious angle is the muh Russia is trying to help Trump. I don’t understand why they said they were intimidating voters into voting Trump... to hurt Trump?
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
Who staged that Coup again? Thats right..the CIA. The normal people on Iran are secular and are no oppresses by islamists thanks to deep state interference.
But again, the USSR recieved heavy backing by bankers and the US was made to back then untill they were no longer needed. Now China is the replacement.
It doesn’t it helps him. This quells claims he is winning due to election interference. That and this makes the media look bad, what sense does it make for the proud boys name themselves while intimidating voters. Stupid concept to buy into. Buncha gullible schmucks.
Eat a dick, I’ll whine about it if I want. Tell me more about toughening up I guess I didn’t get enough of it during my time at COP Jaghatu you faggot ass keyboard warrior.
Yeah you’re welcome for the freedom to say that do nothing sat on your hands bitch. Google Matthew hermanson. 28 April KIA. Birthday is the following month on the 27.
Like anyone cares. This is what the FBI does? Tracks down email spammers? If you get fooled by random emails you get, you deserve to not have your vote count.
All summer we had mobs burning down our cities, and the FBI is hunting down foreigner spam fags?
For those people who read spam email from people they don't know this would be really intimidating if it weren't for the loving support of nigerian princes.
Sure is tiring watching people condemn the FBI for spreading false info and sham investigations while simultaneously believing anything they say that supports their agenda, can't we all just agree to disband the FBI as they lost all credibility?
Stretchin Gretchen, Wolf and Roy Pooper are doing far more damage to our fair elections than any third world shithole could dream of doing. Why get in their way Iran?
Wait, since when does the FBI say, or do anything, even in the slightest, to help Trump.... or especially the "Proud Boys"... this fast even. The boys were talking about this yesterday, then today... interesting.
I tried to patiently explain this to my wife tonight, started anyway, but just shortcut the whole thing and said "They're lying, it has nothing to do with Iran or Russia, and it certainly isn't about the Proud Boys. This is just more smoke coming from the deep state.
Pretty important conference actually, maybe the first time they have so clearly vocalized Trump being the victim instead of the beneficiary of interference. Blatantly pinned Iran as helping Biden and sowing false Proud Boy narratives which makes it harder to attack Proud Boys. Also, even though they brought up Russia, it was done in a general way and that they are actively on top of it all.. this is opposed to 2016 where it was after the election saying yeah we got fucked by Russia.
Both points hurt the left. Iran blatantly helping Biden and Russia being stopped from interfering, so Dems don't have leg to stand on for blaming Trump win on Russia this time. Sure they can scream it, but they don't have actual backing for it this time.
If thg FBI says it's Iran, you can bet it's lefties in Portland. It might be time to start arresting the FBI top dogs. They have a massive spotlight on themselves, yet keep doubling down. They're irredeemable. Fold the worthwhile ones into the US Marshalls.
You can if you are nation state super power (USA) and can analyze packets at the carrier/circuit level.
How would you propose they do that? ISP logs of some kind?
Combination of things really - packet sequence, endpoint fingerprinting, temporal correlation, implants, humint and sigint, back doors in infrastructure and more. Not for nothing but Iran quite often doesn’t really hide behind VPN. They’re pretty brazen about things. I’ve seen it first hand. Now the real question, do you trust the Feds to be truthful and accurate - I surely do not.
I trust Trump, that's all I know
Always!
There's 1000X more in this than 7 words.
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
This guy knows his shit lol
FBI will tell the truth periodically so they can continue to lie regularly.
Store up, Arm up, Standby( a least for a while longer)
WWG1WGA
Turns out the "Trusted Source" was Israel's Unit 8200. They wouldn't lie to us would they?
Sad how many here just swallow this garbage up. Ohhh, thank you Zionists, please spoon feed me more horse shit.
yes I used to work for a major ISP in there core engineering dept. They gov has access to anything they want.
Everything in your home thats connected to the Internet has a backdoor to the gov and likely china as well.
" Hey, Alexa..."
"Hey, intel and amd..."
Iran not hiding behind VPN may be an Intelligence Agency posing as Iran.
Remember the undersea cable that confidently got snagged and then replaced?
Which Intelligence Agency in the Middle East would do something like that??
Israel's Unit 8200? Which specializes in these ops?
Got any evidence? Or are you just spreading disinformation?
PBS, but old news when PRIZM was leaked.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-att-helped-the-nsa-spy-on-millions/
At the international level, they can simply do it at their inner connects. Pretty much all telecom carriers and backbone providers have what's called 'the closet' which is where the tapping takes place, unlike the days of POTS. Fiber tapping is far easier, and there's no way to tell for it's happening since there's no loss in the fiber channels attenuation. And unless either the company itself spills it, someone on the inside does, or the government does, it's pretty much impossible to know it's happening.
AT&T got busted for it back in the mid-00's if I remember right by a whistleblower, because a letter agency was doing it blanket on American citizens.
Well email which is what this is, is still pretty much unencrypted. Even your basic sandvine boxes from 10 years ago can tell what traffic is being sent, and in the cases of the 3rd world with embargos on various types of encryption? It's sure pretty easy to break it.
Look up XKeyscore
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/16/the-nsas-spy-hub-in-new-york-hidden-in-plain-sight/
That’s about enough thought out of you sir!!!!
it depends... Can a super power like the US get that information yes some of your random nerds living in their mother basements have done stuff like that But the question is Can they do it no matter what country that VPN company is located in legally??? That's another question. If they can't get it legally then it turns into another debate. I agree with you I don't trust this report at alll.. This report screams Deepstate panic because President Trump is going to be re elected.
Yeah but problem there is the people doing it have to want to.
What VPNs allow you to set your location to Iran? I've never seen one.
Kek
Hahahahaha
Random internet script kiddies haxxoring Iran and it being real!
Jesus fucking christ!
You sure they don't want you to do that?...
Those were some gaping proxies eh?
Mine sure as hell doesn't.
I’ll ask the Russian commander that is leading our group and get back to you with a good one.
What is a remote endpoint and what is 7 tunnels?
Consequences will never be the same.
considering that Wray thinks "wHiTe SuPrEmAcIstS" are the biggest threat, they probably have no idea what a VPN troll is
This. This is what the original Russia crap was about as well 8chan users making memes with a vpn. Complete garbage useless agencies. Disband them all. This came into the news to try and over take the hunter Biden shit
Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle!!
I bet that scene is probably offensive to a ton of millennials today.
when the left trolls so hard they end up hurting themselves because none of this is reality to them
They already deleted the tweets fucking cowards.
Bunch of penis sandwiches
Hot dog ?
Straws
Confused, reference to SIZE or just that they are soft and flexible?
Reference to the meme going around.
How Biden voters drink milk, by making straws out of hot dogs
Hahahahaha! George Conway is a fat pile of shit.
Penis sandwich on toasted French bread drizzled with olive oil. With a side of fried penis.
It's a mistake to think the FBI speaks with one voice. In an ideal world they wouldn't make public statements at all. However usually they are allied with the administration and messages are in sync. Now they are in complete chaos.
That’s another frustrating part. They were so quick to confirm this but they are really dragging their feet on the laptop.
https://thedonald.win/p/11PVWL1WHC/cat-lady-receives-email-to-vote-/c/
Called it this morning LMFAO.
FBM needs to be disbanded.
Russian VPNs don't have logs of their users. How many Russian hackers are actually from Russia?
FBI is pathetic antifa scum are literally burning and razing American cities and half their resources are on trying to spread bad press on proud boys wtf
Surely our fair media will now accuse Biden of Iranian collusion...
This is a bad headline. Maybe it's just me, but it took me a minute to understand what happened
And you think the FBI understood any of it? Lol.
Ah so the FBI still runs interference for the Democrats...shocker.
Are you dumb? This helps Trump
I hadn’t heard of this until today, now they’ve found a way to put the proud boys back in the news cycle and give Biden a day off from the laptop from hell.
It was timed to happen right before the debate so Biden could use it. Now he can’t.
A good point too.
Are you dumb? You're believing the FBI.
Yes, he’s in the dictionary under dumb.
The FBI is just trying to save their jobs because they’ve been caught covering up every democrat crime in history. With the lamest agitprop in Elbonia.
You won't hear a peep out of this from the left, FBI said BOTH Russia and Iran were working to slander Trump. Lefties will still claim the Hunter emails are a part of Russian disinformation. Even if that were an iota of being the truth, why wasn't that used in the impeachment trial against Trump? Hypocrisy everywhere...
I askjeeves’ed it, checks out
The fact that these messages allegedly originated from "The Proud Boys" is all that you need to know about how much total BS this press conference was when it blamed Iran.
Yep! They are going to go off the word "emails" and claim that the Biden emails are part of the Iran FUD campaign even though the Hunter drives and emails have nothing at all to do with today's brief.
Well I think the obvious angle is the muh Russia is trying to help Trump. I don’t understand why they said they were intimidating voters into voting Trump... to hurt Trump?
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
make sure you promise to put food on the family while you're in iowa, sir
Who staged that Coup again? Thats right..the CIA. The normal people on Iran are secular and are no oppresses by islamists thanks to deep state interference.
Not that simple. The CIA wasn’t totally in the wrong to depose Mossadegh. He was weak and ripe for the Soviets to move in.
What a coincidence the USA creates the terrorists that we now need to deal with after backing the Soviets to get at muh Hitler.
Again, the dangerous USSR was a former ally. The dangerous islamists were former allies. The dangerous Bin Laden is a former employee.
Always the same pattern and sheep keep believing the narrative.
I have been recommended Gulag Arpeligo already.
But again, the USSR recieved heavy backing by bankers and the US was made to back then untill they were no longer needed. Now China is the replacement.
No, the coup the CIA staged was earlier, in support of the Shah. The Tehran embassy was part of the rebellion against the Shah.
Yea we know that. Thats the point. The CIA caused the whole thing.
People that took over the embassy were the equivalent of today's dumb ass leftist.
You can trust the deep state to blame whoever they want to go to war with for any event that tarnishes their already shit image. USA and Russia BFF.
Sounds like lefties being lefties.
Joe Biden is the Iranian candidate
The munchausen candidate!
Ahhh I got fucked, linked this like 30 mins ago.
Shameful reporting, what kind of sense does it make for the proud boys to intimidate voters while naming themselves. Gullible ass reporters.
And how does this hurt Trump, as the FBM said?
It doesn’t it helps him. This quells claims he is winning due to election interference. That and this makes the media look bad, what sense does it make for the proud boys name themselves while intimidating voters. Stupid concept to buy into. Buncha gullible schmucks.
It would have hurt Trump if Iran didn’t get caught. They got caught though and now the FBI is being forced to admit it so it can’t hurt Trump.
In what way were you fucked? You mean you didn't get your fake internet points?
Yes. Do you piss all over the memes asking for upvotes for trump too?
What the hell are you going on about? You're being a whiny little bitch. You're gonna have to toughen up if you want to stick around here. No cucks.
Eat a dick, I’ll whine about it if I want. Tell me more about toughening up I guess I didn’t get enough of it during my time at COP Jaghatu you faggot ass keyboard warrior.
At least you agree you're still a pussy. Acceptance is the first step to recovery.
Yeah you’re welcome for the freedom to say that do nothing sat on your hands bitch. Google Matthew hermanson. 28 April KIA. Birthday is the following month on the 27.
Thank you sir.
Boys, stop fighting. Save it for the cucks and commies.
Like anyone cares. This is what the FBI does? Tracks down email spammers? If you get fooled by random emails you get, you deserve to not have your vote count.
All summer we had mobs burning down our cities, and the FBI is hunting down foreigner spam fags?
They have a 35,000 employees. They can actually do more than one thing at a time.
I mean, they don't seem to be. But they can.
But there is only one front page of the WAPO and CNN is only one channel. What do you mean more than one?
Shocked Pikachu face.jpg
LOOK, LOOK, IRAN!
LOOK, LOOK, RUSSIA!
Hey, what's this I've heard about China?
NoOoOo, YOU CAN'T LOOK AT CHINA!
Little boy with glasses at msnbitchy told me TRUMP was working with Russia....
I think this vulnerability is the same that /pol has been trying to shed a light on for days now. Once again, /pol is first.
For those people who read spam email from people they don't know this would be really intimidating if it weren't for the loving support of nigerian princes.
Notice how the Democrats and FBI only goal is to blame anything and everything on white supremacists and Russia.
Barr is a useless spineless cuck
Great. Now do something about mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting.
Sure is tiring watching people condemn the FBI for spreading false info and sham investigations while simultaneously believing anything they say that supports their agenda, can't we all just agree to disband the FBI as they lost all credibility?
The only thing the FBI hates more than the Russians are the White Supremacists. Meanwhile, the Chinese can't seem to do anything wrong.
Bosses rarely do in communist patronage systems.
Stretchin Gretchen, Wolf and Roy Pooper are doing far more damage to our fair elections than any third world shithole could dream of doing. Why get in their way Iran?
Because the FBI is so fucking credible when they're not protecting CHILD FUCKERS and their laptops. Or overthrowing elections.
Wow! The FBI investigated something for once. Color me shocked.
"Investigated"
Their source was the New York Times.
Strangelove reference, don’t take it literally.
Only children and Democrats are influenced by social media and/or Iran.
When is joe biden going to be arrested?
Prolly Iranians like Strozk, Page, Jarrett, etc
Now they need to confirm that the Dems were behind the Russia hoax and Biden and his son are nothing more than disgusting criminals.
The FBI of matters? They have 0 credility. If the FBI said the sky was blue I would not belive them.
Wait, since when does the FBI say, or do anything, even in the slightest, to help Trump.... or especially the "Proud Boys"... this fast even. The boys were talking about this yesterday, then today... interesting.
Butt covering. Fake AND gay butt covering.
I tried to patiently explain this to my wife tonight, started anyway, but just shortcut the whole thing and said "They're lying, it has nothing to do with Iran or Russia, and it certainly isn't about the Proud Boys. This is just more smoke coming from the deep state.
Wait a minute they're trying to hurt the President? I thought all the foreign interference was to hurt Biden. Oh boy have we been lied to.
Hey FBI. You have ZERO credibility. Go fuck yourself
But China is too broke to interfere HAHAHAHAHAHA. these alphabet orgs. Are stupid.
Let’s take for a minute the “russia “ narrative for granted. Let’s just say it’s true.
China has like 50x the GDP, owns big tech, and has a literal army of internet goons paid to spread disinformation.
Which one of those countries do you think is a bigger cyber security threat?
Pretty important conference actually, maybe the first time they have so clearly vocalized Trump being the victim instead of the beneficiary of interference. Blatantly pinned Iran as helping Biden and sowing false Proud Boy narratives which makes it harder to attack Proud Boys. Also, even though they brought up Russia, it was done in a general way and that they are actively on top of it all.. this is opposed to 2016 where it was after the election saying yeah we got fucked by Russia.
Both points hurt the left. Iran blatantly helping Biden and Russia being stopped from interfering, so Dems don't have leg to stand on for blaming Trump win on Russia this time. Sure they can scream it, but they don't have actual backing for it this time.
If thg FBI says it's Iran, you can bet it's lefties in Portland. It might be time to start arresting the FBI top dogs. They have a massive spotlight on themselves, yet keep doubling down. They're irredeemable. Fold the worthwhile ones into the US Marshalls.
The FBI should take a cooking class and then open a nice bakery in Cleveland, Ohio.
Swappers Gonna Swamp
🤡🌎
That title..whew
I'm not surprised!
So it was the Russians telling me to vote in every other commercial
Russia wanted Hillary