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XxxRDTPRNxxX 12 points ago +12 / -0

Not only is starvation not a cause of death in America, but poverty is correlated heavily with obesity. The poor are eating too much!

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Ausernamegoeshere 0 points ago +1 / -1

Here's a perspective from someone who was dirt poor. What you said is a misconception. The poor are eating the wrong things because food stamps are finite and those wrong things lead to terrible places, including obesity.

You get around $200 for a family of three per month (obviously varied by area). A current food budget for a healthy family of three is around $200 per week. This means you cover the staples - proteins and fresh vegetables for most meals with some carbs scattered to and fro.

To get away with most of your groceries for the month costing 1/4 of that, you are eating almost exclusively carbs. Beans, noodles, and that sort of thing. With that sort of diet comes poor nutrition and further binging on carbs to try and feed the persistent internal knock from the body asking for proper vitamins and minerals.

Poor people are fat because the government decided to pay them just enough to buy the worst possible foods - foods that leave them in a permanent state of poor nutrition with the highest energy content possible.

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XxxRDTPRNxxX 8 points ago +8 / -0

I don't accept that the government is responsible for feeding the poor in the first place. So to place the responsibility on the government for these people eating poorly seems very misplaced to say the least. If they are eating poorly it's because they aren't paying for better food themselves.

Next, People in other parts of the world live on less than $2 per day. Rice, beans, ramen, etc... is really cheap. Frozen vegetables are also very cheap.

It's not just a matter of money because if it was you could eat healthy for very cheap.

It really comes down to self control and convenience. Some people are more likely to take the instant gratification of junk food that tastes better than the more healthy bowl of boiled beans they have to make themselves. And I think people who already have that mindset are more likely to make the choices that keep them in poverty.

On the flip side someone who thinks long term, has self control, and will deny themselves instant gratification is the kind of person more likely to eat healthy, and also the kind of person more likely to escape poverty through those habits.

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Ausernamegoeshere 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't support welfare, either. But blaming the individual for the government engineering them into sheeple is a bit like saying "I don't vote because it doesn't matter" followed by "It's not my fault because I didn't vote".

Your government is, on the one hand, teaching people exclusively how to fail through public education and on the other, giving them just enough money to fail with and need more reliance on the state. Do some escape this? Yes, through family support and dedication. Oh, right.... Guess what those third and fourth hands have been sabotaging for the last 80 years?

Inaction led here and now constant action with actual understanding of the root causes is required to get us back to where we came from and not "well, they are just stupid people not willing to do anything, so we should do nothing."

As for the junk food versus healthy food, that's middle class - maybe "lower" middle class. I'm talking the actual poor.