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This debate went way better. Questions were still all slanted, and she saved Biden just a bit here and there, but she was easily the best moderator. I was authentically surprised. She muted his mic seemingly accidentally when he got to ‘historically black’ colleges, but that was it, and he was right at the end anyway.
I think she knew the easiest way to further her own career would simply be to not be a complete asshat like all the rest.
Agreed. Anybody see tonight Chris Wallace trying to save his own career? Chris is terribly leftist. Extreme left. And hates America so much he lets it get in the way of doing his job.
We only think she did a far better job because of how crappy Wallace was. She still cut Trump off, let Biden go on and on, ask biased questions, ask much more clarifying questions of Trump than Biden, etc.
I agree, much better debate—but let’s not act like this moderator was anymore than a leftist bot trying to further her career.
The questions were fucking cringe. "There's a neighborhood in Texas complaining about pollution, what should we do?" "Muh poor minorities have to have 'the talk' about evil white people, what should we do?"
I don't believe the media are commies. I'm sure some are.
I watched a Brandon Tatum video today showing a clip of Don Lemon from years back actually trying to clean up black communities and force introspection. Even talked about sagging pants!
I think they go where they're instructed to, because money.
It is a sinking ship, for sure, but it's still one they'll die on because otherwise they'd have to abandon their mail-in voting fraud scheme (which is their only way to actually win), and even if they wanted to they've pushed it too damn hard this entire year for them to back off a mere two weeks before the election and make it seem remotely authentic.
Right, she was clearly a Biden voter, but kept her bias at bay for the most part. Would be nice if we could get some mildly conservative moderators too though.
Cruz was bold on that stream. Steven called him out when he was about to thank him for his book sales, and Cruz said something along the lines of "well, I'm a politician"
I am coming around a lot to the serial killer.
And he's right -- Republicans are stupid for agreeing to leftists moderating everything without any checks.
In an ideal world, Republican primaries will be moderated by people invested in the Republican party, and we had one of each, a liberal and conservative moderator.
Or even two and two.
It allows each party to press the opposite party on tough issues.
Before losing to Trump, Cruz was a lying, cheating asshole. Remember when he stole the Iowa primary by stealing Carson voters, telling them Carson had dropped out of the race. Being humbled by Trump was the best thing that could happen for Cruz
Even the Biden voters are getting sick to their stomachs over the Biden crime family level of corruption. The staggering amounts of money now with pedophile laptop action shots are just too much for even die hard liberals.
She tried to fact check Trump on kids who get COVID-19 though. After Trump said Barron barely noticed he was sick, that teachers don't catch the virus from kids and the survival rate for kids is over 99%, she said 1) gets can get sick from the virus and 2) kids can pass the virus to adult teachers. The reality is, most kids never develop any symptoms at all and it is very difficult for a kid to pass coronavirus to an adult. Trump was right and she was wrong.
However, her error did set up Biden to start talking about how much money the schools need to socially distance to open up the schools again. That's basically every lefties go-to after tax the rich...i.e. Let's throw more money at schools because somehow that means gets will learn more, even though there's not a whole lot of correlation after a certain point between throwing money at schools and kids learning anything. Just look at the Ivy League for proof. Most of those young adults enter the Ivy League smarter than when they leave.
Besides, I don't even think the existing teachers want that. More hires who are actually in the classroom teaching would be a threat at this point to the ones who are refusing to return to school.
I thought so too, but Crowder made a good point after the debate. She didn't follow-up on Biden even once. I didn't even notice, even mr. president Wallace followed-up.
Yea, I noticed that too. She didn't follow up with specifics with Biden at all. With Trump she was asking him to name names of companies where the covid vaccine may be coming from and asking him to guarantee it's availability within weeks. She never even came close to anything like that with Biden.
At least Chris Wallace's slant was obvious. This bitch flew under a lot of people's noses.
Yeah but what she did was a double-edged sword. She was maybe trying to do “gotcha” follow-up questions but was also letting GEOTUS speak more and showing more interest in him and his plans / perspectives.
Don't get me wrong I think Trump handled it as well as could be expected. But people clamoring that she was somehow way better than Wallace obviously weren't seeing what was actually going on which, to be fair, is/was the point I think.
At the end of her closing of the debate, her eyes darted straight over to Trump. She knew who the winner was. I think she did a pretty good job honestly.
Yeah I think see seemed better than she actually was because of how much more restrained Trump was this time. She was a lot better than I thought she'd be though.
I disagree slightly. There was this fellow I saw moderating a panel on Australian TV a while back that I thought would be just perfect for moderating a U.S. debate. We should outsource it to non-American media with less skin in the game.
If not for this community (and way back on plebbit) I wouldn't know squat about Trump. I wouldn't even know about him. I had never heard of him before.
Then the 2016 election happened. Suddenly, wall to wall "Orange man bad". I was used to the media bullshit about Marine Lepen, so my first reaction wasn't "Indeed, Orange man bad", but "Who is he really?" I was already on Reddit for other communities. /all was inundated with the_donald posts at the time. That's how I found the_donald. And learned. And learned. So much learned.
And still, our media is plastering "Orange man bad", day in and day out, presstituting themselves, laundering CNN's talking points as truth.
Agreed. There are plenty of objective people in America as long as they are not from the media. More than 90% people in the media industry are left leaning.
I’ll have to watch what he’s talking about. Obviously the whole thing’s still slanted against Trump, but to me it mostly seemed like she spent the majority of the time letting them talk, and mostly moved on when it had turned into an endless back and forth. A couple of Biden saves in there, but I can’t recall a single jab she didn’t let Trump get in. I mostly saw it as Trump having hit Biden hard enough that Biden didn’t have much to say that wasn’t already said.
I was completely floored that she let Trump talk about the laptop from hell. I was almost certain that would be the moment that the mic would be cut. I’m sure she’s going to get slammed by her base for letting him speak at all, but leftists eat their own either way. She probably knows their shit’s going to get packed and is hedging her bets to be moderate, and a go to for both parties. Good move for her career.
I totally agree but have to add that she did step in at perhaps the most critical moment: Asking “why” Biden would shut down the oil industry. Huge point in the debate.
Same! I almost wanted to stand up and applaud her, I think that was the closest thing to a fair debate any moderator has ever given Trump. And knowing how she feels about Trump, it can't have been easy to restrain herself like that. And hell, she even asked Biden a semi-tough question or two.
I agree with that assessment and rating. I thought she did really well with questioning. Only one question to Trump that I thought was sorta bs. My only problem was there was a lot of:
[Trump starts a response]
Moderator: "We need to move on, we need to move on, we have many questions to get to, [Trump continues to talk], ok 10 seconds"
[maybe 10 seconds later at first chance to interject] Mod: "ok let's move on"
It was funny to see Biden’s reaction to her having him actually answer a question. Only wish Trump had brought up court packing to further pack Biden’s shit in. I assume Biden said little to the moderator after it was over, and mostly went in for a good sniff.
He looked to have pages and pages of notes. I’m sure he knew all the questions in advance, though he couldn’t have known as much what Trump would press him on. Trump was just letting words fly off the cuff the whole time.
At least half of Biden’s answers were incoherent. He’s start going, and I’d try following, and I’m not sure where either of us ended up by the end of his time.
Yeah, they really lost the plot. I suspect like many things that started out with good intentions, they got co-opted by the globalists and twisted to serve the Moloch-worshippers.
The next best thing was the Crowder livestream. Although I will say that Crowder talks a bit too much, especially for those who want more than hearing him shit on Biden.
Definitely needs to have some kind of flexible scaling backend to handle megatraffic. Granted, I don't know how amenable the reddit engine architecture is to this sort of thing, as far as I know it was designed in the era before elastic hosting was mainstream and reddit itself almost certainly has a more constant and predictable traffic pattern.
It's not really a format well designed for live commenting anyway. Everyone visiting is hitting refresh every few seconds and getting 50-100k every time plus all the other housekeeping stuff that happens behind the scenes when you load a page.
It would help but they'd probably be better off doing something like an IRC server with a web front end. Though truth is, with so many people, it would be hard to follow anyway.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Even if it was an “attack” by the left, I wonder if there’s a way to close TheDonald to non-accounts, and perhaps even to the handshake accounts too, to allow us to discuss while it’s going on. I absolutely hated not having this army to chat to while the debate was on.
Bit that wouldn't do anything. Attackers weren't pinging the server or whatever. A load of Trump loving patriots were all trying to access the site at the same time.
Honestly, theres a lot of not-quite American pedestrian on here showing love. This also may be the only place they find common minds. If anything, I'd say cut off non accounts or anything newer than a couple days, during big event.
How would you verify that? The problem is with the infrastructure because the Trump train is overloaded with many pedes. Let’s add more carts instead of throwing some overboard. We want TD.win to be the largest online, don’t we?
The issue with ec2 or Azure is that they are cucked. I manage a setup (five servers on a Docker Swarm, two load balancers) for a place (don't want to go into specifics b/c dox) and I can barely handle peak load when the entire user base has to login in the span of 10-15 minutes. Probably going to take more resources for Win.
You think AWS or Azure would shut it down? Cloudflare hasn't refused service, not sure that AWS or Azure would. GCP might lol, why I didn't recommend them.
Old school data centers are rough, because as you said, 5 servers may not even be enough, then you are stuck.
Have to be able to scale quickly. Not sure how to do that outside of the cloud.
And dude, Docker Swarm? Migrate to K8s! Even Docker Desktop ships with K8s now.
Maybe one day I'll switch to K8s but currently our place has a fair bit of automation that is designed for Swarm and people that know how to use Swarm but it might just be worth it
I think so. Your build automation would be docker commands for both I would think, docker build, docker push. Then the deploy should be just command line (automated) for initial setup.
kubectl apply -f your code.yml.
Either way, I don't think K8s is going anywhere anytime soon so it is definitely good tech to learn.
Surprise surprise, they DDoS us during the debates. Imagine the elections, this site is not ready for it even though I love the people who built this we're gonna get slammed. They will have effectively shut us down without shutting us down because we don't have the capacity.
Man, this is what I'm worried about. Election night and the like week after is going to be intense, I come here knowing I can find out what's really going on. Fucking leftist shenanigans.
Its not an attack. We have non americans that are here. Weve been infiltrated by europeans australians canadians who think its fun to participate here meanwhile not giving a fuck they crash our site and prevent us from discussing amongst ourselves.
All the foreigners aistralians canadians europeans flood our site and simulate a ddos. These selfish assholes dont care about us and want to hop in on our discussions because its neat. They crash our site
It's feel good jerked-off kool-aid. A dude named Joe posted on Facebook the quote about blah blah red vs blue America, I see all America. Someone quoted the next sentense that was said by Biden and hahaha the idiot was like "Yeah what? That's dumb."
I think after the last 2 Telemundo polls where Trump and Pence trounced Biden/Harris, they won't be doing any more polls. At least I couldn't find one on their site. Of course, I don't speak Spanish, so that could be a problem...
This was Trumps best debate so far. Between Joe’s embarrassing attempts at poignant moments and calling the proud boys “poor boys” Trump just tore him apart with facts and stats. Great performance.
Trump came off as powerful, in control, and smart. Joe Biden stumbled on words, showed aggression but came off as weak and lost. Biden had coherent statements, but Trump would always pick apart those statements like a master and Biden would get frustrated and angry, like a little kid who had their toy taken away.
This was an excellent, decisive victory. I have no idea what the strategy was with the first debate, but I think whatever happened with that one will not matter in the long run.
Umm Chris Wallace is at FOX.. Paul Ryan is at fox now and wanted to push Anti Trump propaganda on the Fox Network. Also FOX ratings are destroying Msnbc and CNN. If you're saying a network that is pro Presient Trump (which they're really not) but has a bigger fan base now compared to the other networks that are completely Anti Trump who's rating are in the toilet. Does it really matter at this point? haha Nobody is watching CNN and they're barely watching Msnbc. Washington Post and other liberal news outlets are laying out staff every month now. Nobody is really paying attention to the mainstream American media now. We're comparing a huge fan based vs Networks who's fan base don't really exist anymore. Msnbc, WAPO. and CNN polls don't matter anymore in my opinion.
I'll reserve a degree of skepticism for all polls, but IMO, Trump absolutely destroyed Biden over and over. What's less known is how the debate will affect votes, if at all.
The biggest takeaways I saw which might affect votes:
Biden was low energy and had numerous dementia moments. It's really hard to take him seriously.
Trump's attacks on Biden had me laughing, he had numerous strong digs. Nobody wants a weak president (even me, a Libertarian, is not interested in Jo J.)
The fracking comments were stated as an absolute and "put it on your website" which the Trump team already has it up on Twitter. It's a super-easy fact check, and there was little ambiguity.
Trump said enough about the Biden corruption scandal, that it's going to be hard for people to NOT talk about it, even if that's attempting to run cover for Biden. While I suspect normies might not quite dig far enough to learn the truth, there's at least enough out there for them to maybe not vote for Biden, if the thing they hate about Trump is that he's in the top 0.1%
There were many other things I spotted during the debate including outright lies, but a lot of the other things I noticed might not affect normal voters.
That was a much better debate than the first one. Welker is still a liberal shill but she was far more professional and fair than that whiny shitbag Wallace. Definite win for President Trump, he got in some real good jabs, and that he got Beijing Biden to admit he wants to end the oil industry was amazing. That should be the knockout punch in any state whose economy relies on fossil fuel related jobs.
Since Abe has landslide up above figure I’ll go with the high energy flair as a thanks to all you Pedes commenting and updooting 2000 in under an hour. That is high energy.
This debate went way better. Questions were still all slanted, and she saved Biden just a bit here and there, but she was easily the best moderator. I was authentically surprised. She muted his mic seemingly accidentally when he got to ‘historically black’ colleges, but that was it, and he was right at the end anyway.
I think she knew the easiest way to further her own career would simply be to not be a complete asshat like all the rest.
Agreed. Anybody see tonight Chris Wallace trying to save his own career? Chris is terribly leftist. Extreme left. And hates America so much he lets it get in the way of doing his job.
Chris is probably fuming after how well Welker's moderation was received compared to his shitty job.
Yup. Agreed! Welker is obviously biased personally but I think she did a far better job. Wallace was a goddamn train wreck, totally irredeemable.
I love her !! Eloquent and Insightful!!
My mom is 93 she said Joe is an old looking fuck 😂😂😂😂😂🇺🇸
Fox just needs to fire him already.
We only think she did a far better job because of how crappy Wallace was. She still cut Trump off, let Biden go on and on, ask biased questions, ask much more clarifying questions of Trump than Biden, etc.
I agree, much better debate—but let’s not act like this moderator was anymore than a leftist bot trying to further her career.
The questions were fucking cringe. "There's a neighborhood in Texas complaining about pollution, what should we do?" "Muh poor minorities have to have 'the talk' about evil white people, what should we do?"
Holy shit.
I'm amazed they haven't figured out theres ... real news to be reported on about biden
They know.
There may be some, ahem, conflict of interest
You have to understand the media is running Biden's campaign, that's why they don't report it
Nah, Their ratings are tanking. Only people with severe TDS watch and care about them anymore.
I don't think the pendulum swing will ever include the media though. They're commies to the core.
I don't believe the media are commies. I'm sure some are.
I watched a Brandon Tatum video today showing a clip of Don Lemon from years back actually trying to clean up black communities and force introspection. Even talked about sagging pants!
I think they go where they're instructed to, because money.
It is a sinking ship, for sure, but it's still one they'll die on because otherwise they'd have to abandon their mail-in voting fraud scheme (which is their only way to actually win), and even if they wanted to they've pushed it too damn hard this entire year for them to back off a mere two weeks before the election and make it seem remotely authentic.
Right, she was clearly a Biden voter, but kept her bias at bay for the most part. Would be nice if we could get some mildly conservative moderators too though.
On the crowder stream ted cruz called republicans idiots for never pushing for conservative moderators even in R primaries.
Cruz was bold on that stream. Steven called him out when he was about to thank him for his book sales, and Cruz said something along the lines of "well, I'm a politician"
I am coming around a lot to the serial killer.
And he's right -- Republicans are stupid for agreeing to leftists moderating everything without any checks.
In an ideal world, Republican primaries will be moderated by people invested in the Republican party, and we had one of each, a liberal and conservative moderator.
Or even two and two.
It allows each party to press the opposite party on tough issues.
Before losing to Trump, Cruz was a lying, cheating asshole. Remember when he stole the Iowa primary by stealing Carson voters, telling them Carson had dropped out of the race. Being humbled by Trump was the best thing that could happen for Cruz
Even the Biden voters are getting sick to their stomachs over the Biden crime family level of corruption. The staggering amounts of money now with pedophile laptop action shots are just too much for even die hard liberals.
She tried to fact check Trump on kids who get COVID-19 though. After Trump said Barron barely noticed he was sick, that teachers don't catch the virus from kids and the survival rate for kids is over 99%, she said 1) gets can get sick from the virus and 2) kids can pass the virus to adult teachers. The reality is, most kids never develop any symptoms at all and it is very difficult for a kid to pass coronavirus to an adult. Trump was right and she was wrong.
However, her error did set up Biden to start talking about how much money the schools need to socially distance to open up the schools again. That's basically every lefties go-to after tax the rich...i.e. Let's throw more money at schools because somehow that means gets will learn more, even though there's not a whole lot of correlation after a certain point between throwing money at schools and kids learning anything. Just look at the Ivy League for proof. Most of those young adults enter the Ivy League smarter than when they leave.
Biden said something about hiring more teachers. Why should we do that when the ones we have are getting paid to not teach?
Yes, I know why he said it. It's just ridiculous.
Besides, I don't even think the existing teachers want that. More hires who are actually in the classroom teaching would be a threat at this point to the ones who are refusing to return to school.
Wish Trump would’ve said more kids die from the flu than corona! Covid is such a joke
He said afterwards "well I'm jealous, I wish I could have moderated THAT debate". As if it wasn't him that caused much of the chaos of the first one.
Did he really say that?
I will give Kristen Welker this: After Biden called Trump xenophobic and Trump started asking for time to counter Biden's garbage, she let him
She interrupted a couple times but ultimately let him talk.
She wasn't a great moderator, but she was so good compared to Chris that he praised her.
Having watched Welker numorous times at Sarah Huckabee's press briefings, it's very surprising that she actually did a pretty decent job. Good for her
That's pathetic. As if it had nothing to do with him.
True Chris interrupted the President like 76 times was a total loser when he moderated that disaster.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201023061601/https://thehill.com/homenews/522394-chris-wallace-says-he-was-jealous-of-moderator-watching-final-debate-between-trump
Yeah all the Fox commentators kept saying how much better the moderator was right in front of his face lmao
Man, I wish I would have seen that. Did his expression look annoyed and pissy?
It always looks like that.
"I'm Cuck Wallace and I wish I could have moderated this debate!"
Well maybe you should have shut the fuck up during your debate, Chris
Yeah, I saw that too. Chris Wallace is a fucking joke.
I thought so too, but Crowder made a good point after the debate. She didn't follow-up on Biden even once. I didn't even notice, even mr. president Wallace followed-up.
It was just such a stumping that I didn't notice.
Yea, I noticed that too. She didn't follow up with specifics with Biden at all. With Trump she was asking him to name names of companies where the covid vaccine may be coming from and asking him to guarantee it's availability within weeks. She never even came close to anything like that with Biden.
At least Chris Wallace's slant was obvious. This bitch flew under a lot of people's noses.
Yeah but what she did was a double-edged sword. She was maybe trying to do “gotcha” follow-up questions but was also letting GEOTUS speak more and showing more interest in him and his plans / perspectives.
Don't get me wrong I think Trump handled it as well as could be expected. But people clamoring that she was somehow way better than Wallace obviously weren't seeing what was actually going on which, to be fair, is/was the point I think.
She was far better than Wallace. Hands down. Even GEOTUS complimented her mid-debate.
It went far better than he could've expected IMO and I wouldn't be surprised if he acknowledges it again in the coming day or two.
He calls it like it is. And in this case, it was much better than Not Mike Wallace.
He will, he always gives praise if it's well deserved
At the end of her closing of the debate, her eyes darted straight over to Trump. She knew who the winner was. I think she did a pretty good job honestly.
I bet her midbrain was sending her signals that she didn't understand.
"Why do I want to have sex with President Trump!?!"
And then Creepy Joe tried to approach her at the desk! While everyone’s else on stage was like wtf are you doing.
Yeah I think see seemed better than she actually was because of how much more restrained Trump was this time. She was a lot better than I thought she'd be though.
Oh she definitely catered to Biden some, but in a much less obvious and annoying way.
I disagree slightly. There was this fellow I saw moderating a panel on Australian TV a while back that I thought would be just perfect for moderating a U.S. debate. We should outsource it to non-American media with less skin in the game.
Definitely not. As someone who lives outside of America, they understand Trump less and will be definitely be more bias.
This.
If not for this community (and way back on plebbit) I wouldn't know squat about Trump. I wouldn't even know about him. I had never heard of him before.
Then the 2016 election happened. Suddenly, wall to wall "Orange man bad". I was used to the media bullshit about Marine Lepen, so my first reaction wasn't "Indeed, Orange man bad", but "Who is he really?" I was already on Reddit for other communities. /all was inundated with the_donald posts at the time. That's how I found the_donald. And learned. And learned. So much learned.
And still, our media is plastering "Orange man bad", day in and day out, presstituting themselves, laundering CNN's talking points as truth.
Agreed. There are plenty of objective people in America as long as they are not from the media. More than 90% people in the media industry are left leaning.
I’ll have to watch what he’s talking about. Obviously the whole thing’s still slanted against Trump, but to me it mostly seemed like she spent the majority of the time letting them talk, and mostly moved on when it had turned into an endless back and forth. A couple of Biden saves in there, but I can’t recall a single jab she didn’t let Trump get in. I mostly saw it as Trump having hit Biden hard enough that Biden didn’t have much to say that wasn’t already said.
I was completely floored that she let Trump talk about the laptop from hell. I was almost certain that would be the moment that the mic would be cut. I’m sure she’s going to get slammed by her base for letting him speak at all, but leftists eat their own either way. She probably knows their shit’s going to get packed and is hedging her bets to be moderate, and a go to for both parties. Good move for her career.
I totally agree but have to add that she did step in at perhaps the most critical moment: Asking “why” Biden would shut down the oil industry. Huge point in the debate.
I was suprised too. It went really really well imo, towards Trump. We came out on top. I'm happy with how it went
Same! I almost wanted to stand up and applaud her, I think that was the closest thing to a fair debate any moderator has ever given Trump. And knowing how she feels about Trump, it can't have been easy to restrain herself like that. And hell, she even asked Biden a semi-tough question or two.
7/10, would take her over Wallace any day.
She did enough to keep her career, whichever the wind blows.
Guess it was as good as it gets, as far as fake news go.
Ehh. I think career wise going pro Biden seems to be the way to further yourself currently. I Give her genuine props. Seemed fair to me
The sinister approach would to help Trump and tank Biden. They get to keep making money ranting about Cheeto Hitler for 12 more years
I agree with that assessment and rating. I thought she did really well with questioning. Only one question to Trump that I thought was sorta bs. My only problem was there was a lot of:
[Trump starts a response]
Moderator: "We need to move on, we need to move on, we have many questions to get to, [Trump continues to talk], ok 10 seconds"
[maybe 10 seconds later at first chance to interject] Mod: "ok let's move on"
Biden: "I need to respond to that"
Mod: "ok"
[Biden talks uninterrupted for 30+ seconds]
It was funny to see Biden’s reaction to her having him actually answer a question. Only wish Trump had brought up court packing to further pack Biden’s shit in. I assume Biden said little to the moderator after it was over, and mostly went in for a good sniff.
At one point joe was shocked he had so much time to talk I don't think he even knew what to do.
He looked to have pages and pages of notes. I’m sure he knew all the questions in advance, though he couldn’t have known as much what Trump would press him on. Trump was just letting words fly off the cuff the whole time.
At least half of Biden’s answers were incoherent. He’s start going, and I’d try following, and I’m not sure where either of us ended up by the end of his time.
Lol yeah. For one of his response, he just gave a one word answers, followed by silence. She was like, "Do you have anything else to add?"
"No."
"Look, fat, I won't stand for this kind of malarkey!"
Biden said he would shut down the oil industry. That should be campaign ending by itself.
How dare you!
--- Greta the Gremlin
Climate Change Goblin 🤢
Yeah, they really lost the plot. I suspect like many things that started out with good intentions, they got co-opted by the globalists and twisted to serve the Moloch-worshippers.
$100T? What the ever living fuck.
Pocket change when he will be owned by CHY-NAH
Basically tear down every building and put on solar panels. Plus some other retarded shit.
Yeah, Trump knew it too
"Remember that Pennsylvania, Texas, Oklahoma"
Ohio?
Sorry, I knew I missed one. Family was talking and I didn't catch every word.
We always will.
I think the majority of those that had already voted weren't going to have their minds changed by anything.
this, voted 3 days ago. Trump would have to be a proven pedo for me to not vote...
i’d vote Kanye fuck you commies
every vote counts in swing states
11 million illegals getting citizenship.
And TheDonald.win lost. Come on, guys, we need to do better. The site goes down every single time there's a major event.
The next best thing was the Crowder livestream. Although I will say that Crowder talks a bit too much, especially for those who want more than hearing him shit on Biden.
Definitely needs to have some kind of flexible scaling backend to handle megatraffic. Granted, I don't know how amenable the reddit engine architecture is to this sort of thing, as far as I know it was designed in the era before elastic hosting was mainstream and reddit itself almost certainly has a more constant and predictable traffic pattern.
It's not really a format well designed for live commenting anyway. Everyone visiting is hitting refresh every few seconds and getting 50-100k every time plus all the other housekeeping stuff that happens behind the scenes when you load a page.
Yep. With no live commenting the site is getting command R’d 1000’s of times a second.
Maybe on big posts sorted by new, make it so only 25 comments are loaded? Not sure if that would help or not
It would help but they'd probably be better off doing something like an IRC server with a web front end. Though truth is, with so many people, it would be hard to follow anyway.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Even if it was an “attack” by the left, I wonder if there’s a way to close TheDonald to non-accounts, and perhaps even to the handshake accounts too, to allow us to discuss while it’s going on. I absolutely hated not having this army to chat to while the debate was on.
Bit that wouldn't do anything. Attackers weren't pinging the server or whatever. A load of Trump loving patriots were all trying to access the site at the same time.
How about non citizens accounts? Ya know because we decide if this ship sinks or floats not them?
Honestly, theres a lot of not-quite American pedestrian on here showing love. This also may be the only place they find common minds. If anything, I'd say cut off non accounts or anything newer than a couple days, during big event.
Not american pedestrian from nonliberal christian hungarian democracy here, showing love!
They just need to improve the infrastructure. Ask everyone for a small donation. I am sure they’ll get enough dough to beef up the server farm.
I just want to talk to Americans. And i cant anymore.
How would you verify that? The problem is with the infrastructure because the Trump train is overloaded with many pedes. Let’s add more carts instead of throwing some overboard. We want TD.win to be the largest online, don’t we?
Ok how can i talk to only Americans?
Good question. I don’t know the answer but I think it would be hard if not impossible to verify US citizenship.
Isn't Cloudflare supposed to prevent that?
It’s not DDOS. The server itself can’t handle the number of requests.
This is how I know Trump is going to win... because of .win
Cloudflare defends against DDoS. It can't help much with simultaneous user load.
So you're saying Cloudflare can't handle the HIGH ENERGY?!?!
TD.win servers can't handle the high energy.
Need either K8s with shared storage maybe a mongo or dynamo db or ec2 instances or the azure equivalent.
The issue with ec2 or Azure is that they are cucked. I manage a setup (five servers on a Docker Swarm, two load balancers) for a place (don't want to go into specifics b/c dox) and I can barely handle peak load when the entire user base has to login in the span of 10-15 minutes. Probably going to take more resources for Win.
You think AWS or Azure would shut it down? Cloudflare hasn't refused service, not sure that AWS or Azure would. GCP might lol, why I didn't recommend them.
Old school data centers are rough, because as you said, 5 servers may not even be enough, then you are stuck.
Have to be able to scale quickly. Not sure how to do that outside of the cloud.
And dude, Docker Swarm? Migrate to K8s! Even Docker Desktop ships with K8s now.
Maybe one day I'll switch to K8s but currently our place has a fair bit of automation that is designed for Swarm and people that know how to use Swarm but it might just be worth it
I think so. Your build automation would be docker commands for both I would think, docker build, docker push. Then the deploy should be just command line (automated) for initial setup.
kubectl apply -f your code.yml.
Either way, I don't think K8s is going anywhere anytime soon so it is definitely good tech to learn.
Lmao yeah. Do that stuff.
It's actually not that hard, and can be done at a reasonable cost.
Seems unlikely the current site was built to be distributed. You're talking about a major retooling, which is a good idea but not a simple project.
So disappointing, not seeing any comments.
Surprise surprise, they DDoS us during the debates. Imagine the elections, this site is not ready for it even though I love the people who built this we're gonna get slammed. They will have effectively shut us down without shutting us down because we don't have the capacity.
Do they DDoS us or are there so many of us here that the servers can't handle it?
I think it was this.
Man, this is what I'm worried about. Election night and the like week after is going to be intense, I come here knowing I can find out what's really going on. Fucking leftist shenanigans.
I always just laugh and say "Good."
It means they are scared.
Is it really DDoS attacks though or just the crush of members trying to get on the site and post? I'm leaning towards the latter.
Its non americans
There may have been a ddos, but we were part of the problem too. Thousands of us hitting refresh didn't help.
yeah when it goes down I just leave and refresh after half an hour. I don't want to help overload the site.
Thanks. Finally able to see comments. Unfortunately first comment I got to see was some reddit-ahole Biden shill. lol
That Biden won the debate and he won his vote. Shill was new member, first post.
Ironic
Mods are just gonna let this site crash and burn every time anything significant happens? I love our mods but damn... every time.
If you saw what's happening behind the scenes you'd think differently. It's not that easy
Its not an attack. We have non americans that are here. Weve been infiltrated by europeans australians canadians who think its fun to participate here meanwhile not giving a fuck they crash our site and prevent us from discussing amongst ourselves.
Stfu fag
Just now finally getting on. Can't see any comments on the debate thread.
All the foreigners aistralians canadians europeans flood our site and simulate a ddos. These selfish assholes dont care about us and want to hop in on our discussions because its neat. They crash our site
The GEOTUS did excellent. He let Biden hang himself. Especially with Biden saying he'll let 11 million illegals in.
Trump wins on border security alone. The rest is just the cherry on top
I said this before - leftist actions ALWAYS back fire. Muting the debate helped Trump and Biden couldn't hold it together.
If they fire her for she can always get a job at WH like McEnany. She was a leftie and look at her go.
Biden was really starting to stutter a lot by the end. He was wearing down.
drugsssss
Meth wearing off
When I heard that I was like.....”did he really just say he’d give 11 MILLION illegals citizenship?!?” Like.....WTF!?!
That's part of their power grab plan to make sure republicans never win again.
New states for senators.
Pack court for supreme court.
New legalized voters for presidency.
100%. This debate would win over undecided voters.
Also watch "Viewer Reaction to Second 2020 Presidential Debate":
https://www.c-span.org/video/?475796-102/viewer-reaction-2020-presidential-debate
Too many dipshit lefties to weed through there.
Especially when you’ve been chasing the dragon for 4+ years. What a waste of brain power and time.
Bots
It's feel good jerked-off kool-aid. A dude named Joe posted on Facebook the quote about blah blah red vs blue America, I see all America. Someone quoted the next sentense that was said by Biden and hahaha the idiot was like "Yeah what? That's dumb."
No thanks.
Trump is still sharp. Biden is a butter knife at best.
Don’t kid yourself, Byeden’s a spoon.
hopefully they're the ones who already voted.
Joe Biden wants to:
Raise the minimum wage to 15/$
Grant amnesty to 11 million illegals
Get rid of the oil industry
ITS GOING TO BE A FUCKING LANDSLIDE
Raise taxes too.
Jesus. All Joe did today is say, "I'll do what trump is doing for covid, but here is all the extra burden I'm going to put on you."
LANDSLIDE
ABRAHAM LINCOLN WINS AGAIN!!
No fucking way really? That’s insane lol like you can’t skew it a little less to make it more believable?
Fox is trending down fast
who checks CNN, come on man! What are you, braindead?!
Where lmao
All polls are bullshit. Trump won it 100%
I thought objectively, yes. 100%. I can't think of any segment that went Biden's way.
I think react positively to Biden because he packs in the platitudes and abuses every classic political trope in the book.
Eheheheheheheennnnnnnnnd the oil industry
This needs to be a gif
And a couple of weird lip licking episodes. He looked like a lizard.
I wanted to punch him everytime he did his stupid “you got me” grin
What about when he said “malarkey”? I kekked.
I also noticed he smiled every time Trump made a good point.
there was a bit where he stuck his tongue out too.
Need to check the others as well. I'm curious what Telemundo is reporting
I think after the last 2 Telemundo polls where Trump and Pence trounced Biden/Harris, they won't be doing any more polls. At least I couldn't find one on their site. Of course, I don't speak Spanish, so that could be a problem...
74/24 ? It wasn't even this close. Biden got BTFO.
Absolutely murdered that deep state hack
He played by their own BS rules and still came out on top!
This was Trumps best debate so far. Between Joe’s embarrassing attempts at poignant moments and calling the proud boys “poor boys” Trump just tore him apart with facts and stats. Great performance.
God is with us.
Yes he is.. Pray changing everything. Evil can't fight that ..
Babylon Bee (probably) : "Due to fantastic debate performance, Trump orders all microphones to be muted for two minutes."
BIDEN CAMPAIGN DEADER THAN BEAU
HO LEE FUCKKKKKK
You sick son of a bitch. I'm in.
my young adult daughters were watching with me and they were really not liking "Angry Biden"
Didn't like the narrow eyes and the angry pointing
(I noted that I should probably avoid that look as well haha)
Trump came off as powerful, in control, and smart. Joe Biden stumbled on words, showed aggression but came off as weak and lost. Biden had coherent statements, but Trump would always pick apart those statements like a master and Biden would get frustrated and angry, like a little kid who had their toy taken away.
This was an excellent, decisive victory. I have no idea what the strategy was with the first debate, but I think whatever happened with that one will not matter in the long run.
Need to check the others as well. I'm curious what Telemundo is reporting
please report. cause if that one is >50% again then we win FL! (PA is won!)
Si, fly.
I understood this reference
Que pasoool!
The longer the debate went the more Biden became tired, sleepy, mad. He couldn't wait for it to be over.
And checked his watch. I think George Walker Bush did that in a debate and the media trashed him for it.
Fuck Fox. Get out and vote, bring your friends, redpill them first.
They couldn't pick a less creepy bob barker facelift meets the joker picture for this
Kek, you’re right! Dude looks like a nightmare.
Don't insult Bob!
O dear god
Donna Brazile said lbj was the best president for blacks. Should we tell her?
She’s in on it.
Not that I don't love this, but it's Fox News. Of course they're going to love the man!
Edit: I'm talking about the viewers that fox polls, not the network themselves.
Fox is controlled opposition.
Yes, but it still has conservative viewership. A poll with these numbers on, say, CBS would be a whole other animal.
Umm Chris Wallace is at FOX.. Paul Ryan is at fox now and wanted to push Anti Trump propaganda on the Fox Network. Also FOX ratings are destroying Msnbc and CNN. If you're saying a network that is pro Presient Trump (which they're really not) but has a bigger fan base now compared to the other networks that are completely Anti Trump who's rating are in the toilet. Does it really matter at this point? haha Nobody is watching CNN and they're barely watching Msnbc. Washington Post and other liberal news outlets are laying out staff every month now. Nobody is really paying attention to the mainstream American media now. We're comparing a huge fan based vs Networks who's fan base don't really exist anymore. Msnbc, WAPO. and CNN polls don't matter anymore in my opinion.
Abraham lincoln
¡Jeb! of course
He did drag the other three - including Lincoln.
Would be interested if Telemundo again ran a poll !
If we win that one gain its a wrap! (PA is ours now 100% and then FL with based latinos )
Especially after Biden basically saying he'll ban fracking. Dude double tapped himself.
Russia Russia Russia! Get fucked Joe Biden, this time try and not let it be by your son!
Like Mike Tyson vs Glass Joe
I'll reserve a degree of skepticism for all polls, but IMO, Trump absolutely destroyed Biden over and over. What's less known is how the debate will affect votes, if at all.
The biggest takeaways I saw which might affect votes:
There were many other things I spotted during the debate including outright lies, but a lot of the other things I noticed might not affect normal voters.
To the Leftists lurkers: Do you feel in control?
You know this is MAGA country.
And it's staying that way.
I think Trump won every single round of that debate. I don't know that Joe even got one good round. Trump was floating like a butterfly.
Joe's first response was excellent. He was all downhill from there. I guess we saw the limits of his medication.
Hey, you made a rhyme with Beau
That was a much better debate than the first one. Welker is still a liberal shill but she was far more professional and fair than that whiny shitbag Wallace. Definite win for President Trump, he got in some real good jabs, and that he got Beijing Biden to admit he wants to end the oil industry was amazing. That should be the knockout punch in any state whose economy relies on fossil fuel related jobs.
When Joe went all political speech Trump called him out immediately.
He’s so phony and weird. Talking directly to the camera and mentioning the kitchen table like FIVE TIMES
I thought the questions were bad. Too much time on covid and climate change. Poor coverage of foreign policy, a Trump strong point.
The commission is full of commie scum and those are the republicans
You know who lost the debate? You did, Joe.
CONGRATULATIONS ABRAHAM LINCOLN FOR WINNING TONIGHTS DEBATE
Kek
Is Biden just going to hide in his basement until Election Day?
Since Abe has landslide up above figure I’ll go with the high energy flair as a thanks to all you Pedes commenting and updooting 2000 in under an hour. That is high energy.
Don't need a Frank luntz focus group to know Trump won bigly