Good morning patriots
Hope everyone slept well after the president soundly beat up China Joe.
Server issues here have been discussed at length but we'd love to test them. If everyone would just invite their friends here we should be able to get an accurate test. 20 million users should be acceptable.
We've had some great threads and comments about what happened last night. Now that you've had time to digest it we'd like to give you the opportunity to seriously discuss any questions, issues, or anything that happened.
Top level comments should be only something that happened during the debate. Links to highlights, fact checks, questions, etc.
For those who missed it.
So many Biden lies.
Solar is going to provide all the new energy jobs? What about Obama’s Solyndra failure? That was solar. That bilked the taxpayers for ~$600 MILLION.
$15 Minimum wage doesn’t close businesses? You can find the same tales in Seattle.
Obama and Biden didn’t address the 1994 crime bill because they didn’t have Congress? They had both houses for the first two years.
The worst (to me) was “NO ONE lost their health care on Obamacare.” That lie hits too close to home. My insurance that had great coverage and a $1200/year deductible went from $213/mo to $596/mo with a $16,000/year deductible and reduced coverage. I suppose I gave it up “voluntarily,” but the end result is ObamaCare cost me my health insurance and then I had to pay a tax penalty on top to not have it.
Fuck you, Joe. Fuck your lying ass to hell.
On Obamacare, I had a fairly liberal friend not only lose his health insurance, but he lost his doctor as well back when it was passed. He went some ~7 months without a doctor because he was tied up in the system and couldn't get approved.
He's been a Republican ever since.
Keep your doctor, keep your plan
Was literally Politifact Lie of the Year
Biden is going backward
I wish I saved my “Obama says your healthcare plan isn’t good enough, so you can either pay us more for a new plan with a higher deductible, or you now have no insurance” letter.
Obama's energy policy is a nightmare for the American taxpayer. All it was ever meant to do was make him and his friends money. OUR money. I've been trying to find out the cost of all those windmills in the plains region, and when they're going to start paying for themselves, haven't had much luck.
My insurance went from $0 monthly, with high deductibles and premiums, employer provided, to no insurance at all. I've never found affordable insurance and have stopped looking. That was 10 years ago.
It's endless. Biden also talking about how states hate it hard and hard to fire firefighters, etc when he also wants to defund the police and emergency services.
What I see here is places have screwed up their budget and you're saying just throw more money at them? I'd send in the feds shock and awe tossing civil servants into interrogation and collecting documents like bailing sandbags to stop a flood to find out who's embezzling.
Also going on about the bail out bills. The thing is Democrats keep bolting on everything else they want onto it rather than sticking to the actual point.