Good morning patriots
Hope everyone slept well after the president soundly beat up China Joe.
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We've had some great threads and comments about what happened last night. Now that you've had time to digest it we'd like to give you the opportunity to seriously discuss any questions, issues, or anything that happened.
Top level comments should be only something that happened during the debate. Links to highlights, fact checks, questions, etc.
For those who missed it.
A small nitpick, but an annoying one: Biden's insane response when Trump brought up the energy budget and comparative energy return of windmills. Biden's statement of "find a scientist who says that" is so mind-numbingly stupid that it perfectly distilled the left's current fetish of "science." I wouldn't go to "a scientist" to perform that analysis; I'd go to an engineer to calculate production energy costs, system lifecycle and energy costs, and lifetime energy return.
This whole angle of trying to drape himself with the word "science" or "scientist" has got to be the most retarded instantiation of an Appeal to Authority fallacy in world history and is just dumb and retarded.
Somebody needs to ask Joe the Pedo to define "science" and "scientist." I'll bet you the answer would be epic and utterly stupid.
Yeah the lefts love for science is so annoying because it’s so shallow and fake. They are in love with the authority of using the word science with something brings and THATS IT. They don’t love any part of the scientific method, analysis, experiments, fuck that, just say whatever you want and add science to it!
72 genders because SCIENCE!
6 year olds can change gender because SCIENCE!
Women are oppressed because SCIENCE!
Black people should be given A grades even if they fail a class because SCIENCE!
SCIENCE SCIENCE SCIENCE I LOVE SCIENCE!!!!
Remember how all of the "I fucking love science!" people on Reddit worshiped Elon Musk until he said he was against lockdowns? Now they hate him almost as much as they hate Trump.
They literally called him a “corona denialist.” What does that even mean?
Corona denialist is a new one for me. But I've been accused of being "anti-science" because I think masks and lockdowns are bullshit.
I remember that. Liberals turned completely on Musk.
Now I have much more respect for him than I used to. To be able to stand up to the CA government.
Speaking of the "I fucking love science"/Rick and Morty types on reddit:
an old school classic http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=youre_not_a_nerd
I fucking hate those yard signs "In this house we believe Science is real..." Yadi yadi yadi.
Science is a method, not a religion.
Stop using it to fill the gaping void in your life.
This.
I'm just a lowly math and ML guy, but did have an undergrad minor in a hard science. This weird phenomenon of the left sticking the word "science" on everything is fake and gay. And the politicization of science is deeply troubling, since we have two great examples of political movements doing that during the 20th century, with atrocious results.
What are the two movements?
Haha, well said. My favorite is when they put stupid yard signs up with empty platitudes.
"Love is Love, Science is Real ...."
Um, no fucking shit idiots. Wow, who knew ... science is real ... fuck me! They act like they hold some exclusive belief in science. Their delusion is unreal.
Don’t talk about low IQ because of SCIENCE though
Not to mention how Biden laughed when Trump said wind turbines kill birds.
They fucking do.
It was estimated in a study (someone fact check it) that the wind turbines that exist in the USA alone presently are responsible for the death of around 250,000 birds annually. The US ALONE. That isn't world wide.
Now granted, that's not a significant cause of problems for birds (far more are killed by roaming cats left outside by owners) but the issue is, it COULD become a significant problem if we switch a majority of our power to wind.
In 2019 wind power made up 7.3% of the power in the US. So now let's say we boost that % to 35%. Suddenly the "250,000 annual bird deaths" is now over a million.
The song bird population is already in serious decline. Birds are important for the ecosystem. So it's not so easy as the dems believe to "just use wind power" and be economically friendly!"
Joe is a moron.
Nobody wants to look at wind turbines either.
They are a blight on the landscape.
From production to recycling wind turbines are a stupid option for energy. Let the private sector innovate freely like we have been. Already you see hundreds of companies pushing money into energy storage technology and better ways to capture solar. There are tons of books about the scam of gov funded "green energy" The money ends up funneled to few, and inevitably wasted.
I can't remember it now, but there is a book with a chapter covering the scandal that was Obama's green energy failure.
Let me know if you remember. I've had a relatively difficult time looking for info against the Obama-era green energy deals (and gov funded green energy in general), so would love to check it out.
Solyndra
Same with solar farms. They fry birds in mid flight.
This. And we've known that since at least the 1970s. It's empirically demonstrable. But uhhh "muh science" or something.
Yeah I worry about their effect on migratory patterns for birds and insects. These wind mills happen to be situated in giant wind corridors that flying animals have been traveling for thousands of years.
You should go to a scientist on this though. An environmentalist to talk about how many species of birds and bats these turbines have put close to extinction.
I've never considered this. It's at least worth comparing to fish ladders at dams. Leftists are willing to dynamite dams despite fish ladders working the way they're meant to.
Haha. Good point.
Well put. That's exactly how I see it, and perfect for Joe because he avoids having to give detail.
Just defer to a group of "experts", "scientists", or a panel, like he did when he punted the question of packing the court. Now he wants half a year to explore the idea with some bullshit "bipartisan" committee with Never trumpers like Kasich. C'mon man.