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posted ago by -f-b-i- ago by -f-b-i- +4418 / -0

Good morning patriots

Hope everyone slept well after the president soundly beat up China Joe.

Server issues here have been discussed at length but we'd love to test them. If everyone would just invite their friends here we should be able to get an accurate test. 20 million users should be acceptable.

We've had some great threads and comments about what happened last night. Now that you've had time to digest it we'd like to give you the opportunity to seriously discuss any questions, issues, or anything that happened.

Top level comments should be only something that happened during the debate. Links to highlights, fact checks, questions, etc.

For those who missed it.

The debate

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rothbard_anarchist 18 points ago +18 / -0

So I feel like the media is trying to actively rewrite reality in front of our very eyes. "They spied on my campaign" declared 'false' by Politifact, with the non-sequitur that 'they concluded there was no political motivation' as an excuse. First, of course, Trump didn't mention motivation, and the basic fact is a matter of public record. They surveilled his campaign. They have texts between Page and Strozk showing political bias. All they lack is a document saying "we're going to spy on his campaign because we have political bias." And of course we have dozens of missing and wiped phones, so who knows what evidence was destroyed there.

CBS was similarly clownish after the debate. They showed three BS 'fact checks' all twisting reality to favor Joe.

My question, after all this, is what's the best reference to show, point by point, the Trump campaign spying scandal? I'm really going to challenge my liberal Facebook friends, who claim an ethical high ground, to defend the blatant reality distortion the media is currently engaged in. This is pure 1984 territory, with the media acting like the Ministry of Truth.

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NeonPurpleCharizard 4 points ago +4 / -0

Spygate is so deep, the average commie lib will zone out the minute you start getting into the specifics. Dan Bongino's books have been my go to resource though. They lay everything thing and everything is sourced. Spygate and Exonerated.

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redshortz44 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ask them what the predicate was. I get that Mueller found no collusion, but what was his basis for thinking there was collusion. You can't just get a warrant because you don't like someone. There has to be evidence for probable cause and no one has said what that was. We heard Steele dossier and Papadopoulos but those don't check out because they knew the Steele dossier was bogus and they ran informants into the campaign even before then like with Papadopoulos and Flynn. After Mueller failed to provide their basis for the surveillance, most Democrats said this looks bad...add to that the IG report that concludes there was bias, and the FBI agent who falsified evidence for the Carter Page warrant. I think this current DOJ investigation will find more crimes because the pattern points toward bad intent