Good morning patriots
Hope everyone slept well after the president soundly beat up China Joe.
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We've had some great threads and comments about what happened last night. Now that you've had time to digest it we'd like to give you the opportunity to seriously discuss any questions, issues, or anything that happened.
Top level comments should be only something that happened during the debate. Links to highlights, fact checks, questions, etc.
For those who missed it.
You know what I love? Muting the mic absolutely backfired on the Dems. It kept Trump more focused and on topic since Biden couldn't interrupt and derail Trump by getting Trump pissed and riled up whenever Biden lies.
I have noticed that one thing that will absolutely set Trump off like a firecracker is when someone lies and rightfully so. However the muted mic also stopped Trump from "saving" Biden like he did last time.
Moderator secretly making Trump look more competent by making Trump give very concrete answers, for example, 3 big companies working on the vaccine, plans to use army logistics to distribute vaccine and vaccine has a timeline of several weeks. Biden gets a softball question and only gives a vague answer of "shutdown the virus." What does that even mean?
I also may have misheard this portion but at one point did Biden say that Abraham Lincoln was racist?
The vaccine thing may have made him look competent.
But it didn't play well to some in his base.
Protestants in flyover country... it might take a special education campaign from the Graham family just to convince them that the rushed vaccine isn't the mark of the beast.
Republicans in Oregon damn near started the (conventional) second civil war by ultimately invoking cloture rules. And this was before the newest round of endless riots in Portland. You know what ultimately got the Oregon GOP back the first time they walked out? Concessions on vaccines.
I like Trump. He's what America needs right now.
But if Jo Jorgenson had come out and just carpetbombed America with ads declaring mask mandates and lockdowns the highest form of tyranny...
This election is going to be close. Mostly due to fraud, but it'll be close. And it'll almost certainly get decided by the Supreme Court.
I thought the moderator did a great job. But this question could have been the Trojan horse.
Trump's already going to struggle with older voters. Again, mostly because of fraud. Omar's Somalis bundling ballots, etc. But, seriously, the ones who don't live in New York and Michigan are scared shitless of this virus... and they're scared because of the team Trump continues to employ.
Personally, I think he should have punted on the vaccines and hit more on China and Biden's abominable record on crime. Of course, Biden's record on crime would play well with the GOP in places like AZ.
"Do you really trust a guy with such a shady record when it comes to China- the source of this virus- to open us back up again? How are we going to open up safely when Joe over here flip-flopped and now hates cops? Our medical companies aren't going to want to work with someone who'd tax them at fifty, sixty, seventy percent. Just remember, one phone call and I brought college football back."
That's how I would've advised Trump to handle that one.
I think as long as the President stresses that the vaccine is completely optional but a very good idea, he'll be fine bragging about it, as he damn well should, the speed at which they pushed through to develop a vaccine for a completely novel virus is unprecedented in our lifetime. Honestly "the party of science" should be in awe of what's he done to help these companies develop these drugs and vaccines.
I especially think if he steps up to the plate and shows himself getting the vaccine on camera, he will get mad respect. I know it won't be ready before election day most likely but he could make a promise that he will do it.