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I agree. Only problem was she would try to redirect to another "follow up" before Trump could directly respond to Biden's accusations. Saw him actually taking a few notes though to help remember, so it seemed to work.
I honestly think the reason this moderator was fairly reasonable, was because Savannah Guthrie was such a nightmare. Savannah Guthrie looked like a demon possessed psychopath soaked in blood. This moderator probably didn't want to end up looking like Savannah.
Bingo. She was more looking out for her future. I think she realized that being considered a “moderate” can get you paid by both sides. She still interrupted President Trump way too many times to bail out Sleepy Joe. Don’t think she deserved that compliment from President Trump.
She took lessons out of the Wallace and Savannah disaster. Those were abominations. I was really pleased with the way she let them go back and forth even when the responses were becoming repetitive and becoming unproductive. Did didn’t let her bias show. She did bring up foreign policy. Thank God! She even brought up NK, which I’ve been begging for. NK needs to be remembered for what is was, imminent nuclear war. That was an amazing moment and I’ve got to credit her with allowing that to be discussed in depth. She also didn’t Candy Crowley Trump with falsely discrediting the Hunter laptop allegations.
I agree his manner in both debates was planned. The game plan for the first debates was to bully Biden, show the world Biden is soft. The second debates was was about being Presidential and picking apart Biden with facts.
Both strategies are meant to pick apart Biden just to different crowds. First debate was for the his base, second was for the undecideds.
This. First debate, he came out guns blazing and talked AT Joe.
Last night, he talked TO Joe, and while he was slicing hunks of old fag meat off his bones, he was nice about it. He even showed the stuttering old prick empathy - something the libs insist he's incapable of.
Joe was just a mean, shitty old man from the first moment...then the drugs wore off.
I agree with you. The media narrative (which in this case is somewhat accurate) is that the challenger always "wins" the first debate with an incumbent. Trump was having none of that, so he brute forced Joe into silence. Absolutely planned and executed perfectly. Nobody remembers anything Joe said at the first debate.
I was busy last night. The only part I saw was Trump drilling Joe about foreign money. Biden tried to answer and she stopped him and moved on to climate change or some bullshit.
Donald Deadpan strikes again! I'm sure he does it on purpose; he's so animated and expressive all the time that when he just stops and stares for a moment it is more powerful than if he lit the state on fire.
I love it when Trump smiles! He had such a wide and happy smile throughout the debate. I don't know if it is my bias talking but honestly when Trump smiles, he just seems so happy and genuine. His smile goes from ear to ear. Now, when Biden smiles, he shows his teeth and looks like a troll. It's uncanny and sometimes, when he is looking straight at the camera, it is downright terrifying.
Can anyone share my sentiment or am I just biased?
She was pretty fair. Though at this point I think that us pedes would consider Blackbeard to be 'pretty fair minded and reasonable' compared to what we've had to deal with the past few years.
It's all relative. Plus, Trump acted all evening as if he knew that he had to come off as polite, composed and "presidential" to win over the fabled suburban women voters. He wasn't going to give them any ammo to manipulate the emotional set into voting Biden because "Orange Man Mean!"
She really shouldn't be overly praised. The debate was editorially framed to disadvantage Trump with the choice of topics, which mirrored Dem platform priorities. Regarding the low bar... it's too bad it seems unique when Hunter Biden is even allowed to come up. The Bobulinski press conference might have made ignoring it impossible. Many TD.win people were starting to really openly hate on Giuliani/Bannon Thursday. But the Bobulinski appearance deserves credit as pretty significant.
Yea, the unabomber is pretty fair minded and reasonable compared to what we've had to deal with the past few years. She clearly was trying to be at least a little fair and it showed. Now her career will probably be ruined by the leftist mob, poor girl.
anyone else got that sinking feeling when biden looked directly into the camera mumbling his memorized lines. good god, it was like staring into dementia itself. Trump called him out on it at one point though
Yes...but a lot of this was purely because Trump was the aggressor and wanted to speak far more often. Biden basically didn't say anything substantial the entire night except to struggle through answering each question coherently.
If she never interrupted Trump then he'd never stop talking and burying Biden TBH. And that's what we love about him.
Mics were only muted for the first two minutes of a primary question response. (And for a couple random seconds of Trump talking that was quickly unmuted. Dunno what that was)
idk how this site keeps saying she was good. Better than Chris Wallace, sure but I don't know how we can honestly say good.
When Trump stopped to say she was doing a good job I was very surprised because she kept talking over him but not Biden, yet I guess this IS the most fair debate moderator Trump has ever had which is SAD!!!
It was by far the best we could have hoped for from a liberal moderator. She helped Joe a little bit but it wasn't the full 1 vs 2 like we expected. It allowed Trump to shine since he didn't have to argue with 2 people.
Tbh, Trump would have just kept talking until she stopped him. That’s a debate strategy, monopolize the time and the audience will ‘assume’you won the debate, regardless of content. She was appropriate with her interruptions to end his points. Would like to see the final ‘time speaking’ tally on this debate.
Yeah and I don't know how people can say she was that bad. Compared to virtually the entirety of the media in terms of their treatment of Trump, she gave him the 5 star experience with a happy ending. I know "the bar is low". That's life. Get with the program...
Nah I wont pretend that a moderator should be neutral. She cut off trump dozens of times, outside his 2 minutes he was constantly talking over her to get a word out yet she would then turn to Biden and say "would you like to respond?" and be quiet.
Overly biased moderators is not a program I will ever "get with" and it's a problem to normalize it. Sure if it swung slightly left then another time right we could understand it's just because people are human but are trying, no it's ALWAYS leftists who moderate debates and that needs to change.
I mean the truth is Trump is way more alpha and commanding than Biden will ever be, and what you're describing is literallymoderation, it's what's supposed to happen.
Trump, as awesome as he is, needs to be reined in a little in that kind of situation or he will steamroll the whole room with his big dick energy. While we may enjoy and appreciate that, that isn't what a debate is supposed to be about.
She did a great job by this metric: both of them were fully able to express their points.
she wasn't good like a truly neutral or patriotic moderator would be, but she was outstanding relative to what we expect from these hostile media scumbags.
He didn't even do that. Then when he WAS semi-coherent he was telling the country he was going to shut the country down again, kill the oil industry and fracking, and give amnesty to 11 million illegal aliens. I think they would have preferred he went into one of his mumbling, incoherent rants a lot more often.
Instead they essentially had him going back and forth between putting his foot in his mouth and rambling on like the dementia patient he is. Anyone who watched that and claimed it was even a draw is a liar and they know it.
Came here to say a version of this. She did way better than Chris Wallace. I think it was all the shit coming out about her beforehand that kept her in line, but credit where it's due.
She was trying to give him a chance to realize his error so he could make up some bullshit context on the fly to minimize the damage. Instead he just doubled-down on his stupidity, even with Trump goading him.
They never normally publicly admit their policies. That's why Hillary Clinton said they have two sets of positions. One for the public and one for their private agenda/dealings.
Nah. She's a cultist. She just realized that was it for the next four years. They won't have a prayer until 2024. And once Trump is finished with them, we may never see another Democrat elected to office.
Yeah, and this is exactly why Rush told DJT to not interrupt Biden himself too many times in the next debate. He'll sound too dumb to vote for if you simply let the man (try) to speak.
I'm convinced that the Dems have a strategy in writing somewhere that involves understanding that the media will cover for absolutely anything and everything that comes out about Biden or that he does to himself. Just have him go out there and either plagiarize Trump's actual ideas or spout NPC talking points, or appeal to emotion or "folksiness" and just get through it. The media will whitewash all of it and pivot everything they can toward Trump instead. If that Ukraine thing had been with Trump, it would have dominated the news cycle for a solid year, at least.
His voters don't care. They just don't want Trump and they'll shoot their own country in the head to get some guy who sounds like their grandpa but who is terminally weak and corrupt over a person who is at times flat out hard to like but who has been an incredible net positive for the country. I think there's a personality thing with people who go for the Democrats where they are attracted to weakness somehow. So many of their candidates are so soft and incapable, and their voters ACTUALLY buy that these politicians care about all their stupid woke social issues, instead of prioritizing the money/power part of the job.
Unless it's a gas station in Japan, in which case it's still good even at the 7-11. Shit blows my mind that their convenience stores have better food than some restaurants.
Still no debate question about his stance on gun control. Joe Biden has currently the most radical stance on gun control from any politician in history. He states on his website he wants to outright ban online sales of even gun parts, and even state wide mandatory buybacks (confiscations)
The moderator didn’t want to ask him that because she knows how radical is and would jeopardize his votes in the swing states, all of which are very pro gun at the moment
Huge disappointment, if you’re campaigning on banning guns, the people deserve to hear your argument during the debates
You could hear the "oh shit" reaction she had, as she realized she fucked up as Joe's caregiver. She did pretty well trying to change topics and steer clear of danger, but Trump still rekt them several times.
It was Welker's tone that really struck me. She didn't ask this follow up for Joe to really explain what he said. She was cautioning him to walk back his statement because she knew it was catastrophic.
It wasn’t even that. She was trying to avoid it all together and was pivoting to a new topic, and Biden took the bait and talked over her to answer Trump’s question. It was just pure disappointment in her voice
We need more nuclear, which is far more reliable and has far less of a footprint than solar/wind, but operating plants are shutting down every year while only one new plant is currently being built in the US.
Still need oil/gas for other purposes, but nuclear would provide the cleanest and safest baseload.
This. I don't understand why nuclear is having so much trouble coming into the spotlight. If we want to talk emissions, stop bringing up renewables - nuclear is much better for the economy, the infrastructure, and the environment.
But muh "Costa Rica is 100% green energy why can't we be!"
Cause our country doesn't exist in a tropical rainforest with tons of rainfall every year to fuel hydroelectric power. Also despite being a country that thrives on renewable energy they're still a third world shithole.
Said the basically same thing to my wife. An astonishingly ignorant position to anyone who has any understanding of the modern world and its industries.
Yes. Excited utterance of something not scripted before hand. She literally could not help herself.
It was a facepalm moment for her and all of the handlers / evil conspirators. Good job on picking this puppet with a massive ego though, Team Globo-Gym.
It is. The enemy propaganda can literally not be overstated. Tech, media, pop culture, education - everything. All slated to serve an elite global cabal.
The "mute button" rules probably helped Trump by making him behave.
LOL the libs thought it would help them but I think it made Trump look better.
Landslide 2020
I got that too. It’s like she realized the magnitude of that statement and it crushed her hopes of Biden pulling the wool over any voters in the energy sector!
You could hear her audible sigh the moment after he said it. It was like she was saying, let's move on let's move on before you say anything stupid AH CRAP.
It is pretty sad when her performance last night is viewed as fair and respectful when it actually wasn't. Sure, if you compare it to Wallace and Guthrie it was better in that she wasn't as antagonistic and better at being sly with her interruptions but they were still there. She still allowed sloe joe all the time in the world but kept trying to usher Trump out the door, so to speak.
I don't disagree with that. I just think we need to start demanding actual conservative moderators for these debates instead of different flavors of the left.
Fracking is the reason the US is an energy exporter. It is why we don’t have to give a shit about the Middle East or what they do to each other. Fracking is why we don’t have to protect the globe’s oil shipping.
Energy sovereignty is the key to US foreign policy independence
The left needs to watch Michael Moore’s documentary, the guy they idolize. Even he admitted the by products of solar and wind farms trash the environment far more than oil.
Solar is great in theory, however, it's not efficient enough yet and we also have the problem of them only lasting 20 or so years. With innovation over time I do think we'll see them become more common and maybe even get to a point where homes and business that don't have huge energy requirements can all generate their own energy without having to rely on monopolistic power companies.
When she said "Why would you do that?", most people heard that as a follow-up question. I heard it as thinking out loud, wondering "Why would you just blurt that out to the entire country you senile old moron?"
i thought she did a really good job tbh
I agree. Only problem was she would try to redirect to another "follow up" before Trump could directly respond to Biden's accusations. Saw him actually taking a few notes though to help remember, so it seemed to work.
I honestly think the reason this moderator was fairly reasonable, was because Savannah Guthrie was such a nightmare. Savannah Guthrie looked like a demon possessed psychopath soaked in blood. This moderator probably didn't want to end up looking like Savannah.
Bingo. She was more looking out for her future. I think she realized that being considered a “moderate” can get you paid by both sides. She still interrupted President Trump way too many times to bail out Sleepy Joe. Don’t think she deserved that compliment from President Trump.
Trump is just used to the worst possible behavior from the media, so bad behavior seems not so bad.
Haha, I actually snorted at this one! So true!
She actually hadn't done that too much before the compliment. The compliment almost gave her permission to step it up a notch.
Blood was coming from her eyes.... blood was coming from her whatever
They had a nice exchange on Twitter last night/this morning
The exact moment I knew he would be president. Lmao. True story.
Hillary stroking out and being hucked into a van like a side of beef on 9/11 was the absolute nail in the coffin.
This was my first thought as well. She knew that what Savannah did will likely dog her for the rest of her career.
May it be short and nasty
She took lessons out of the Wallace and Savannah disaster. Those were abominations. I was really pleased with the way she let them go back and forth even when the responses were becoming repetitive and becoming unproductive. Did didn’t let her bias show. She did bring up foreign policy. Thank God! She even brought up NK, which I’ve been begging for. NK needs to be remembered for what is was, imminent nuclear war. That was an amazing moment and I’ve got to credit her with allowing that to be discussed in depth. She also didn’t Candy Crowley Trump with falsely discrediting the Hunter laptop allegations.
It left me feeling good.
THIS
He was revising the next trade deal with China while letting Joe repeat talking points. Time is money.
I thought he was just doodling a Pepe.
Drawing her with really big boobs.
Drawing. Drawing conclusions lol
Fairly respectful. Nipples barely protruding.
Awwww man , I thought I was the only one doing that...
"The tariffs just got 10 PERCENT HIGHER."
- GEOTUS, if China doesn't stop fucking around
lol
No, you're on number 2.
And making up some calculus problems for Barron's homework.
I think that taking notes was also part of the strategy for getting him to not interrupt. It worked
I agree his manner in both debates was planned. The game plan for the first debates was to bully Biden, show the world Biden is soft. The second debates was was about being Presidential and picking apart Biden with facts.
Both strategies are meant to pick apart Biden just to different crowds. First debate was for the his base, second was for the undecideds.
This. First debate, he came out guns blazing and talked AT Joe.
Last night, he talked TO Joe, and while he was slicing hunks of old fag meat off his bones, he was nice about it. He even showed the stuttering old prick empathy - something the libs insist he's incapable of.
Joe was just a mean, shitty old man from the first moment...then the drugs wore off.
Kek
I agree with you. The media narrative (which in this case is somewhat accurate) is that the challenger always "wins" the first debate with an incumbent. Trump was having none of that, so he brute forced Joe into silence. Absolutely planned and executed perfectly. Nobody remembers anything Joe said at the first debate.
Yeah it looked like he was taking a lot of notes the whole time
inb4 it was just dickbutt doodles
We’re talking about Trump’s notes, not Biden’s
Perhaps he was choreographing the next viral dance.
https://images.app.goo.gl/2rYJcVeBc3aoPPtCA
holy hell, a bit of warning before posting something like that please!
Should not have clicked, need eyebleach.
Thanks for taking one for the team.
Maybe writing down all his Joe insults so he didn't have to say them out loud.
All work and no play makes Joe a senile boy
Probably ideas for campaign ads
I was busy last night. The only part I saw was Trump drilling Joe about foreign money. Biden tried to answer and she stopped him and moved on to climate change or some bullshit.
Donald Deadpan strikes again! I'm sure he does it on purpose; he's so animated and expressive all the time that when he just stops and stares for a moment it is more powerful than if he lit the state on fire.
Oh yeah, that was when Biden was trying to say "Russian disinformation" but could only manage "Russian ....... that is not true".
lol
Like Jim from The Office!
I love it when Trump smiles! He had such a wide and happy smile throughout the debate. I don't know if it is my bias talking but honestly when Trump smiles, he just seems so happy and genuine. His smile goes from ear to ear. Now, when Biden smiles, he shows his teeth and looks like a troll. It's uncanny and sometimes, when he is looking straight at the camera, it is downright terrifying.
Can anyone share my sentiment or am I just biased?
Wow, I think you are right. Those Biden smiles just feel so off. They feel cold and dark. Trump smiles always feel warm and vibrant.
I need to find a clip of that now.
I timestamped it-
https://youtu.be/bPiofmZGb8o?t=2804
Thanks! That is hilarious.
She was much more fair than expected but still interrupted the president several times while never interrupting Joe.
She was pretty fair. Though at this point I think that us pedes would consider Blackbeard to be 'pretty fair minded and reasonable' compared to what we've had to deal with the past few years.
Debates should be at least 4 hours if not 8.
Biden wouldn't last four hours. He was drained after an hour and a half, checking his watch to see if it was almost time to go back to his basement.
Joe, looking at his watch: "If this keeps going, I won't have time for my Ovaltine before I have to go nappy by."
Precisely.
Compared to the other two debate hacks, she actually was pretty fair and even-handed.
This does not speak well for Chris Wallace.
The bar is so god damn low.
True. But even President Trump gave her a compliment.
It's all relative. Plus, Trump acted all evening as if he knew that he had to come off as polite, composed and "presidential" to win over the fabled suburban women voters. He wasn't going to give them any ammo to manipulate the emotional set into voting Biden because "Orange Man Mean!"
Maybe because he already unloaded on Leslie.
Thank you, Leslie!
She really shouldn't be overly praised. The debate was editorially framed to disadvantage Trump with the choice of topics, which mirrored Dem platform priorities. Regarding the low bar... it's too bad it seems unique when Hunter Biden is even allowed to come up. The Bobulinski press conference might have made ignoring it impossible. Many TD.win people were starting to really openly hate on Giuliani/Bannon Thursday. But the Bobulinski appearance deserves credit as pretty significant.
Yea, the unabomber is pretty fair minded and reasonable compared to what we've had to deal with the past few years. She clearly was trying to be at least a little fair and it showed. Now her career will probably be ruined by the leftist mob, poor girl.
ted is reasonable compared to pretty much anybody
This guy fishes with dynamite.
She probably didn't want to sink her career in one evening like Wallace did.
Also it's obvious now that the rats are leaving the sinking ship. They know what's cooking.
anyone else got that sinking feeling when biden looked directly into the camera mumbling his memorized lines. good god, it was like staring into dementia itself. Trump called him out on it at one point though
Surprisingly, much more fair and balanced than pos Wallace.
He truly came off like a snippy cunt.
Wallace is trying so hard to try and distance himself from FoxNews he has become just another media hack.
Nah she kept talking over trump then give biden unlimited response time ('mr president you have 10 seconds... joe you may respond')
Someone counted. She interrupted GEOTUS 30 times, but Creepy Joe only twice.
She also muted the president twice, well someone did and Biden zero. I'm not sure his mic was ever muted.
I did see at one point he said "not true" while the president was speaking and it didn't pick up on the mic, but that was it.
Yes...but a lot of this was purely because Trump was the aggressor and wanted to speak far more often. Biden basically didn't say anything substantial the entire night except to struggle through answering each question coherently.
If she never interrupted Trump then he'd never stop talking and burying Biden TBH. And that's what we love about him.
Eh, true, but I'm just reporting the stats.
I think we can definitely agree, she did better than Chris Matthews. Not that it was a high bar
I don't know, the few times I heard Biden interrupt was really obnoxious. His mic should have been muted when it wasn't his time.
Mics were only muted for the first two minutes of a primary question response. (And for a couple random seconds of Trump talking that was quickly unmuted. Dunno what that was)
so, yes, she was just there to protect Biden then.
"Republican Congress....silence...That's the answer.....silence..."
Anyone with a million dollars to contribute can contribute $47 20,000 times. The “average donation” is then $47.
I didn't really get why that was relevant or what he was referring to.
Heh probably.
"Why would you do that?"
Way better than Chris Wallace. She was passive aggressive on her attacks on POTUS. Where as Chris Wallace was overtly helping Biden.
Exactly. She never talked over Joe, but constantly spoke over the President. Very disrespectful.
idk how this site keeps saying she was good. Better than Chris Wallace, sure but I don't know how we can honestly say good.
When Trump stopped to say she was doing a good job I was very surprised because she kept talking over him but not Biden, yet I guess this IS the most fair debate moderator Trump has ever had which is SAD!!!
It was by far the best we could have hoped for from a liberal moderator. She helped Joe a little bit but it wasn't the full 1 vs 2 like we expected. It allowed Trump to shine since he didn't have to argue with 2 people.
Tbh, Trump would have just kept talking until she stopped him. That’s a debate strategy, monopolize the time and the audience will ‘assume’you won the debate, regardless of content. She was appropriate with her interruptions to end his points. Would like to see the final ‘time speaking’ tally on this debate.
Yeah and I don't know how people can say she was that bad. Compared to virtually the entirety of the media in terms of their treatment of Trump, she gave him the 5 star experience with a happy ending. I know "the bar is low". That's life. Get with the program...
Nah I wont pretend that a moderator should be neutral. She cut off trump dozens of times, outside his 2 minutes he was constantly talking over her to get a word out yet she would then turn to Biden and say "would you like to respond?" and be quiet.
Overly biased moderators is not a program I will ever "get with" and it's a problem to normalize it. Sure if it swung slightly left then another time right we could understand it's just because people are human but are trying, no it's ALWAYS leftists who moderate debates and that needs to change.
I mean the truth is Trump is way more alpha and commanding than Biden will ever be, and what you're describing is literally moderation, it's what's supposed to happen.
Trump, as awesome as he is, needs to be reined in a little in that kind of situation or he will steamroll the whole room with his big dick energy. While we may enjoy and appreciate that, that isn't what a debate is supposed to be about.
She did a great job by this metric: both of them were fully able to express their points.
she wasn't good like a truly neutral or patriotic moderator would be, but she was outstanding relative to what we expect from these hostile media scumbags.
they probably see the writing in the wall tbh
low bar, very low.
The bar is so low that anything north of downright despicable is now "good" lol
nipples protruding
I liked
Moderator: Would you like to respond to that?
Joe: No.
great moment lol Joe just taking the fat L on the chin
You're not wrong, but compared to Chris Wallace she was a huge improvement.
She saw an opportunity to come out as the best moderator and took it.
Pretty easy when that bar is set all the way at the bottom of the barrel.
It was like when everyone was like “Joe did great at the debate” just because he could put semi coherent thoughts together.
Same energy as "Joe's DNC speech was so good. He spoke for almost 30 minutes without mentioning leg hair, roaches, or corn pop"
He didn't even do that. Then when he WAS semi-coherent he was telling the country he was going to shut the country down again, kill the oil industry and fracking, and give amnesty to 11 million illegal aliens. I think they would have preferred he went into one of his mumbling, incoherent rants a lot more often.
Instead they essentially had him going back and forth between putting his foot in his mouth and rambling on like the dementia patient he is. Anyone who watched that and claimed it was even a draw is a liar and they know it.
Other moderators being Wallace, Guthrie and Scully...
Job security!
Came here to say a version of this. She did way better than Chris Wallace. I think it was all the shit coming out about her beforehand that kept her in line, but credit where it's due.
WHEN YOU SEE YOUR PREFERRED CANDIDATE COMMITING SUICIDE IN REAL TIME IN FRONT OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
That's exactly how she meant that, it was rhetorical.
She was trying to give him a chance to realize his error so he could make up some bullshit context on the fly to minimize the damage. Instead he just doubled-down on his stupidity, even with Trump goading him.
They never normally publicly admit their policies. That's why Hillary Clinton said they have two sets of positions. One for the public and one for their private agenda/dealings.
Why do we need politicians let's just elect crooks directly.
Always have been.
The Globalist dream in a nutshell.
Makes you wonder if at that moment she changed her vote.
Nah. She's a cultist. She just realized that was it for the next four years. They won't have a prayer until 2024. And once Trump is finished with them, we may never see another Democrat elected to office.
"We didn't rehearse this ..."
Bingo
Exactly what it was. 'Excited utterance', in law/court speak.
Lol no they didnt say that.
You just made me Bill and Ted.
I wondered if he was trying to read digital contacts or simply trying to remember his rehearsed speech.
Kirsten tried to protect joe on several occasions but Joe was to dumb to realize it and kept burying himself.
Joe just wanted to stick the fork into the electric socket. She kept taking it away but he always came back with a bigger fork.
I don’t miss that part of having a toddler
Joe: we're going to need a bigger...uh you know the thing
I noticed that too as she would tried to change the topic quickly and joe would announce his need to respond. Dumb ass Joe.
Yeah, and this is exactly why Rush told DJT to not interrupt Biden himself too many times in the next debate. He'll sound too dumb to vote for if you simply let the man (try) to speak.
I'm convinced that the Dems have a strategy in writing somewhere that involves understanding that the media will cover for absolutely anything and everything that comes out about Biden or that he does to himself. Just have him go out there and either plagiarize Trump's actual ideas or spout NPC talking points, or appeal to emotion or "folksiness" and just get through it. The media will whitewash all of it and pivot everything they can toward Trump instead. If that Ukraine thing had been with Trump, it would have dominated the news cycle for a solid year, at least.
His voters don't care. They just don't want Trump and they'll shoot their own country in the head to get some guy who sounds like their grandpa but who is terminally weak and corrupt over a person who is at times flat out hard to like but who has been an incredible net positive for the country. I think there's a personality thing with people who go for the Democrats where they are attracted to weakness somehow. So many of their candidates are so soft and incapable, and their voters ACTUALLY buy that these politicians care about all their stupid woke social issues, instead of prioritizing the money/power part of the job.
Truth.
Unless it's a gas station in Japan, in which case it's still good even at the 7-11. Shit blows my mind that their convenience stores have better food than some restaurants.
I lulled.
Hey now, gingers don’t have souls, don’t throw communists in there with us.
She knew he fucked himself bad.
Her face was almost white as a sheet.
The entire military and healthcare industry just went WHAT THE FUCK.
Still no debate question about his stance on gun control. Joe Biden has currently the most radical stance on gun control from any politician in history. He states on his website he wants to outright ban online sales of even gun parts, and even state wide mandatory buybacks (confiscations)
The moderator didn’t want to ask him that because she knows how radical is and would jeopardize his votes in the swing states, all of which are very pro gun at the moment
Huge disappointment, if you’re campaigning on banning guns, the people deserve to hear your argument during the debates
Everyone with an IQ above room temperature facepalmed.
And all the university endowment fund managers downed a bottle of vodka too.
Not just the military. Every industry went WHAT THE FUCK.
In a world where logistics is king. You will basically kill any and all investment in your country overnight.
It's on the levels of "The What" meme
https://i.imgflip.com/37msiy.jpg
I'm kind of confused on this meme, did she actually say "Why would you do that" outloud?
In the most defeated, you stupid son of a bitch tone you could imagine.
It was like she thought her mic was muted
Enjoy, it's quite satisfying
incredible
Kek ty, her tone.
Yes
Yes, yes she did.
You could hear the "oh shit" reaction she had, as she realized she fucked up as Joe's caregiver. She did pretty well trying to change topics and steer clear of danger, but Trump still rekt them several times.
She left the toddler outside of the playpen for too long.
It was Welker's tone that really struck me. She didn't ask this follow up for Joe to really explain what he said. She was cautioning him to walk back his statement because she knew it was catastrophic.
He downshifted his soy powered ice cream truck and gunned it straight into a brick wall.
Exactly. We'll see if the campaign tries to walk it back today.
Someone without dementia surely would have caught the hint (especially with Trump goading him over it too). So of course Biden plowed ahead - lol.
THE SCRANTON KID
It wasn’t even that. She was trying to avoid it all together and was pivoting to a new topic, and Biden took the bait and talked over her to answer Trump’s question. It was just pure disappointment in her voice
She sounded like a disappointed mother who had just caught her toddler doodling on the walls with crayons: "Why would you do that.... sigh"
Bad Joe! Bad.
Come on', Mom!
Uhhh Joe, we need oil. It’s how things work. Say goodbye to your campaign lol
Even if you cut out energy, the modern world is hugely dependent on oil for plastics and fertilizers and other chemicals. So much it's not even funny.
We need more nuclear, which is far more reliable and has far less of a footprint than solar/wind, but operating plants are shutting down every year while only one new plant is currently being built in the US.
Still need oil/gas for other purposes, but nuclear would provide the cleanest and safest baseload.
This. I don't understand why nuclear is having so much trouble coming into the spotlight. If we want to talk emissions, stop bringing up renewables - nuclear is much better for the economy, the infrastructure, and the environment.
But muh "Costa Rica is 100% green energy why can't we be!"
Cause our country doesn't exist in a tropical rainforest with tons of rainfall every year to fuel hydroelectric power. Also despite being a country that thrives on renewable energy they're still a third world shithole.
Because the millions of good paying jobs will be making petroleum free plexiglass for the schools which will reopen in 2025
I really don’t think people realize how much petroleum is in everything around us. It’s like “if we just get rid of cars, we don’t need oil anymore!”
Is that before or after they make all the plexiglass for all the other businesses?
“Oh good, now we have a target date to look forward to”
Trump: cheap gas for everyone. Biden: Fuck yo gas
Shoulda never gave you free people energy
Big oof
OOF
Even of you got rid of gas... the oil industry is here to stay... its unreal the amount if stuff made from oil.
bye bye cellphones
Bye bye agriculture.
Bye bye first world standards of living.
Just the audio of her saying it and Trump turning, triumphantly knowing, Joe dun fucked up.
https://streamable.com/87ta7n
That little bounce of excitement
TFW your opponent's dementia kicks in.
Get this to PlaceBoing stat!
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NO I WANT MY OIL
The concern in her voice seemed legitimate
She's still a commie cuck, but at least she managed to not look like the WORST cuck of all the moderators.
<Chris Wallace enters the chat>
Guthrie was worse than Wallace imo. That's how bad she was.
Oh good, I wasn't the only one who caught that.
Said the basically same thing to my wife. An astonishingly ignorant position to anyone who has any understanding of the modern world and its industries.
But but but we are taking it out of context!
I don't think he even really said it, I think it was just his stutter, that he has always had, making it seem like he said it.
When she said, "Why would you do that?!" I fucking lost it lol
When she said "why would you do that?", it was in a voice of WHAT THE FUCK! She knew China Joe dun fucked up.
Did she actually say that?
Yes. Excited utterance of something not scripted before hand. She literally could not help herself.
It was a facepalm moment for her and all of the handlers / evil conspirators. Good job on picking this puppet with a massive ego though, Team Globo-Gym.
Ask snopes to give us a fact check or maybe we could get evan. Evan, EVAN,EVANNN!
yep
How anyone can be fooled by this corrupt disaster is beyond me, but i guess Orange Man Bad > all logic and reason.
It is. The enemy propaganda can literally not be overstated. Tech, media, pop culture, education - everything. All slated to serve an elite global cabal.
I cracked up about that last night because she asked that question so sadly.
It's always the eyes. Dead giveaway.
He must have been having technical difficulties with his ear piece.
He actually said this?
Yep.
The bar for for the moderator was set so incredibly low, that she was actually able to moderate unscathed.
Honestly, if this had been a conservative moderator, the left would be flipping out that she was too easy.
The "mute button" rules probably helped Trump by making him behave. LOL the libs thought it would help them but I think it made Trump look better. Landslide 2020
Joe is absolutely finished
I just wished she has asked who built the cages
Biden wants kids & oil to transition within 8 years.
I got that too. It’s like she realized the magnitude of that statement and it crushed her hopes of Biden pulling the wool over any voters in the energy sector!
Not just that any rational normie that likes any meaningful form of transportation lol
You could hear her audible sigh the moment after he said it. It was like she was saying, let's move on let's move on before you say anything stupid AH CRAP.
Pure gold.
It is pretty sad when her performance last night is viewed as fair and respectful when it actually wasn't. Sure, if you compare it to Wallace and Guthrie it was better in that she wasn't as antagonistic and better at being sly with her interruptions but they were still there. She still allowed sloe joe all the time in the world but kept trying to usher Trump out the door, so to speak.
I don't disagree with that. I just think we need to start demanding actual conservative moderators for these debates instead of different flavors of the left.
She was probably a 6 or 7 out of 10 compared to Wallace who was a 1 out of 10
Not to the best of my knowledge. I lifted this one from a few minutes before or after. I thought the face matched her voice.
Fracking is the reason the US is an energy exporter. It is why we don’t have to give a shit about the Middle East or what they do to each other. Fracking is why we don’t have to protect the globe’s oil shipping.
Energy sovereignty is the key to US foreign policy independence
The left needs to watch Michael Moore’s documentary, the guy they idolize. Even he admitted the by products of solar and wind farms trash the environment far more than oil.
Solar is great in theory, however, it's not efficient enough yet and we also have the problem of them only lasting 20 or so years. With innovation over time I do think we'll see them become more common and maybe even get to a point where homes and business that don't have huge energy requirements can all generate their own energy without having to rely on monopolistic power companies.
Great meme!
When she said "Why would you do that?", most people heard that as a follow-up question. I heard it as thinking out loud, wondering "Why would you just blurt that out to the entire country you senile old moron?"
I've never seen such an anvil-like jaw on a female before.