I mean the truth is Trump is way more alpha and commanding than Biden will ever be, and what you're describing is literally moderation, it's what's supposed to happen.

Trump, as awesome as he is, needs to be reined in a little in that kind of situation or he will steamroll the whole room with his big dick energy. While we may enjoy and appreciate that, that isn't what a debate is supposed to be about.

She did a great job by this metric: both of them were fully able to express their points.