My husband’s from Ohio but we live in a border state now. I grew up in what is essentially a border town. He had NO idea what it’s really like down there. His family in Ohio has no idea.
He once told me that “we can take care of everybody.” I shut that shit down fast.
I love pointing out to the "we can take care of everybody" people the immigration policies of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, every non-shithole tainted country left on the planet and they're dumbfounded.
The gum balls video is also pretty good. But yeah, most Americans have no idea how tight immigration policies are in almost every other country.
What shut my husband up was me telling him that my grandmother lost most of her state Medicare benefits because the program had to be defunded to pay for illegals. While his grandmother is comfy in a beautiful church-run nursing home staffed by college volunteers and nuns in his lily-white region of Ohio. How would you like it if your grandmother lost that place because illegals overran it? And was dying before her time because of lack of care?
He didn’t have a response to that, and at least it got him thinking. Most people in the rest of the country are just never confronted with this shit.
New Zealand is really strict. You cannot emigrate there unless you prove that you will be an asset rather than a liability. They already have enough non-producers.
Unless you're rich or hold an advanced degree in a field that the country actively has a shortage of and you're being hired by a local company (who has to prove they couldn't find a resident to fill the position) you are not going to get a visa to work there, let alone citizenship.
Contrary to what the cock guzzling lefties in the US think, you can't just pick and choose a nation to live in like you're picking a favorite kool-aid flavor.
As an expat in Switzerland, I can confirm the lengthy process to prove you are vital to live here. Even if one spouse has a job to sponsor the residence permit, the other spouse has to get clearance, and provide proof of their education/degrees and can be held back to be formally 'reunified' later in the country. Then you have to renew the residency permit in another year.
You cannot even open a bank account without a proven source of income (aka a job)...and with out a bank account, since everything is digital here, there extra steps to pay your bills. Good luck paying your bills.
And health insurance is totally on your own, work only covers one part of the person who is employed and not the spouse. Our estimated annual out of pocket cost (before insurance kicks in) is CHF 17,000 just to be covered for two people.
I should say, I love his big heart and I love that impulse in people... in an abstract way. But the second it becomes government policy, uninformed by reality, the horror starts.
When I hear people say that, I always say "ok fine, let's start with you first." We'll sell off your cars, house and other assets and use that to purchase them homes, health care and educations. It's going to cost a lot and everyone has to contribute.
Every time you direct the question of cost, contribution and personal sacrifice back to a liberal, you often get a complete change in tone, or they lash out at you then walk away calling you a "racist."
I've got a liberal friend who is building himself a beautiful house; lots of very nice amenities. He constantly posts to Facebook about the importance of caring for migrants. Meanwhile, two miles away, local hispanic families are packed into cheap affordable housing. It would be so awesome if he put his money where his mouth is, and lived in a less-expensive home thus freeing up money that he could use to to care for the POC. But no, that's the government's job, not his.
I, too, have a liberal-no-longer-my-friend who lives in a million dollar house on a gorgeous island in SC. Bitches to his financial advisor about ‘make me more money!’; golfs every day; has a custom golf cart tricked out to resemble a Cadillac...I could go on and on. Votes Democrat. Talks the talk but never walks the walk. Asshoe!
That’s what I pretty much had to do with my husband. “Okay, honey. Are you okay with your grandmother being evicted from her nursing home and her room given to somebody from a third world country that is sicker? Possibly while the family is still paying for her spot there?” “No.” “So why should other families suffer just so you can feel good about your position?”
I'm sure your husband is just a nice person who hadn't really thought the statement through, but seriously, if he had thought about it for about 5 seconds he'd see it's a ridiculous thing to say. How many poor people are there in Central and South American alone? How many people in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, etc. (not including the cartel and gang members that also come skipping across the border whenever they want)? And if we're going to be "fair," we can't just accept people south of the border, what about poor people in Africa or India? Start adding those numbers up Mr. Nice Guy.
My husband’s from Ohio but we live in a border state now. I grew up in what is essentially a border town. He had NO idea what it’s really like down there. His family in Ohio has no idea.
He once told me that “we can take care of everybody.” I shut that shit down fast.
I love pointing out to the "we can take care of everybody" people the immigration policies of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, every non-shithole tainted country left on the planet and they're dumbfounded.
The gum balls video is also pretty good. But yeah, most Americans have no idea how tight immigration policies are in almost every other country.
What shut my husband up was me telling him that my grandmother lost most of her state Medicare benefits because the program had to be defunded to pay for illegals. While his grandmother is comfy in a beautiful church-run nursing home staffed by college volunteers and nuns in his lily-white region of Ohio. How would you like it if your grandmother lost that place because illegals overran it? And was dying before her time because of lack of care?
He didn’t have a response to that, and at least it got him thinking. Most people in the rest of the country are just never confronted with this shit.
Someone in my family tried the "Trump got elected, I'm moving to Ireland!" temper tantrum.
The irish flat out told her, unless she had a Ph.D or a lot of money, fuck off.
MUCH salt flowed then.
can you explain? i like to peddle these to liberals
These countries have immensely strong immigration stances.
I.e Canada doesn’t grant citizenship to anyone who has a disability that would be on the government’s dime.
New Zealand is really strict. You cannot emigrate there unless you prove that you will be an asset rather than a liability. They already have enough non-producers.
Maoris have entered the chat?
Unless you're rich or hold an advanced degree in a field that the country actively has a shortage of and you're being hired by a local company (who has to prove they couldn't find a resident to fill the position) you are not going to get a visa to work there, let alone citizenship.
Contrary to what the cock guzzling lefties in the US think, you can't just pick and choose a nation to live in like you're picking a favorite kool-aid flavor.
As an expat in Switzerland, I can confirm the lengthy process to prove you are vital to live here. Even if one spouse has a job to sponsor the residence permit, the other spouse has to get clearance, and provide proof of their education/degrees and can be held back to be formally 'reunified' later in the country. Then you have to renew the residency permit in another year.
You cannot even open a bank account without a proven source of income (aka a job)...and with out a bank account, since everything is digital here, there extra steps to pay your bills. Good luck paying your bills.
And health insurance is totally on your own, work only covers one part of the person who is employed and not the spouse. Our estimated annual out of pocket cost (before insurance kicks in) is CHF 17,000 just to be covered for two people.
Yes Ma'am, you're on it.
I should say, I love his big heart and I love that impulse in people... in an abstract way. But the second it becomes government policy, uninformed by reality, the horror starts.
When I hear people say that, I always say "ok fine, let's start with you first." We'll sell off your cars, house and other assets and use that to purchase them homes, health care and educations. It's going to cost a lot and everyone has to contribute.
Every time you direct the question of cost, contribution and personal sacrifice back to a liberal, you often get a complete change in tone, or they lash out at you then walk away calling you a "racist."
I've got a liberal friend who is building himself a beautiful house; lots of very nice amenities. He constantly posts to Facebook about the importance of caring for migrants. Meanwhile, two miles away, local hispanic families are packed into cheap affordable housing. It would be so awesome if he put his money where his mouth is, and lived in a less-expensive home thus freeing up money that he could use to to care for the POC. But no, that's the government's job, not his.
It's always easy to be generous with other people's money.
I, too, have a liberal-no-longer-my-friend who lives in a million dollar house on a gorgeous island in SC. Bitches to his financial advisor about ‘make me more money!’; golfs every day; has a custom golf cart tricked out to resemble a Cadillac...I could go on and on. Votes Democrat. Talks the talk but never walks the walk. Asshoe!
That’s what I pretty much had to do with my husband. “Okay, honey. Are you okay with your grandmother being evicted from her nursing home and her room given to somebody from a third world country that is sicker? Possibly while the family is still paying for her spot there?” “No.” “So why should other families suffer just so you can feel good about your position?”
Usually, these people just aren’t thinking.
Nice job. People who live on border states know how much illegal immigration destroys.
Illegal immigration is insanely destructive. Must be nice to grow up in a spot where you don’t have to worry about it.
I'm sure your husband is just a nice person who hadn't really thought the statement through, but seriously, if he had thought about it for about 5 seconds he'd see it's a ridiculous thing to say. How many poor people are there in Central and South American alone? How many people in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, etc. (not including the cartel and gang members that also come skipping across the border whenever they want)? And if we're going to be "fair," we can't just accept people south of the border, what about poor people in Africa or India? Start adding those numbers up Mr. Nice Guy.
Yeah exactly. It’s a nice sentiment but falls apart once you think about it for more than thirty seconds.