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posted ago by RPDBF1 ago by RPDBF1 +3557 / -0

There are many reasons why I'm not the biggest Trump fan, but I'm voting for him anyway after planning to vote for Jo Jorgensen. I wrote in Ron Paul in 2016 and hate the term "this election is too important" but here are my reasons.

  1. The Corporate Press

I just really can't take these people the lies and obvious manipulation really grinds my gears. The way they have completely covered for Joe Biden, attack Trump for obvious jokes hes making, or as I would put it, breaking balls. NPRs statement yesterday was a shocker, not the actual content of it but the fact that they said it out loud. I have long understood the depravity of the corporate press but for them to task the mask off so brazenly will make the 'liberal reactions to Trumps win' highlights so much sweater.

  1. The Wars

Although I have many issues with the wars Trump has continued to fight (Yemen etc.) he hasn't started a new war, I think you may have to go before WW2 to find a president who did that. He is currently working on a peace deal between the Taliban and the Afghan government. Joe Bidens foreign policy adviser said he'd like to go back into Syria. All the Bush era neo-cons, whom I hate slightly more than even commies, have all endorsed Joe Biden. Joe will either escalate the wars, move to make them permanent, and most likely get us into new wars.

  1. The Democrats

They just deserve to loose. Even if I don't necessarily want Trump to win the democrats deserve to loose. They have moved further and further left in the worst ways, and further "right" in the worst ways supporting the wars courting the neo-cons (who were originally left-wing trotskyites but thats another story) and acting like THE FUCKING SPOOKS at the CIA and FBI should be held up as examples of American patriotism instead of the traitors they are (arming Al-Qaeda in Syria for example).

I hate Joe Biden far less than Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton is a fucking psychopathic monster whom I relished in watching lose last time, even then I didn't vote for Trump. This time is different those the corporate press has just gotten worse as time has went on and the Democrats learned absolutely nothing from 2016 other than we need to get more Orwellian than before.

Here are my concerns for the election right now.

  1. Mail in Voting - have no idea how this will effect the race

  2. Liking Trump or hating Hillary - I am slightly worried, and I haven't seen the press talk about this factor, how much Trump won last time because of Hillary. They underestimated how much people HATE Hillary Clinton, I wouldn't be surprised if many democrats stayed home in Michigan and Wisconsin last time just because they hated Hillary and if that will not translate to Biden.

  3. Corporate press driven hatred of Trump - I am worried that these last three years has made more people brainwashed into believing the corporate press and although they have little enthusiasm for Biden they will go out and vote because Orange Man Bad.

Anyway, lets hope I get to enjoy another TYT and CNN meltdown on November 4th while blasting this for the days after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcEc8zeNYxI

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WishdoctorsSong 78 points ago +79 / -1

Trump may not be a libertarian but he's accomplished more of the libertarian agenda than any proper libertarian has.

Second, the Libertarian party has going utterly fucking nuts, at this point they're competing with the Greens to see who can be the better closet commie.

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Spez_Isacuck 12 points ago +12 / -0

Aleppo Man was such a loser. Ron Paul all the way!

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PurestEvil 9 points ago +11 / -2

The main concern of Libertarians should be the ABOLISHMENT OF SOCIALISM. With it, most of the swamp will follow into the drain.

Weed, open borders, gay marriage, pro abortion - this is all just aimless faggotry pandering to the degenerate left that becomes increasingly radical and communist thanks to more and more indoctrination and propaganda. Rather than facing the real threat in society, they indulge in virtue signalling with distractions, ultimately appeasing the left.

If someone asks you "so you would want to destroy welfare and let people just starve to death?" and your answer is not ultimately YES, then you are not a true Libertarian. Because the same question can be expanded to "so you would want to stop the government from mandating masks and lockdowns and let people die to the virus?" and the answer is also YES. The questions are loaded with stupid premises anyway.

The left really likes to slap labels on themselves, which create the illusion of belonging to something that is not predominantly Marxist. It is really annoying. RINOs, DINOs, LINOs...

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Dictator_Bob 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bob Barr has them all beat. What he did to Paul can never be forgiven.

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krakah293 28 points ago +28 / -0

As a libertarian this is how i feel about libertarians:

https://imgflip.com/i/4jlrd0

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Vivadiscordia 10 points ago +10 / -0

As a rational libertarian, the extremely dogmatic libertarians are the worst. I like almost all libertarian ideology in principle, but we don’t live in a libertarian world where everyone plays by our rules.

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Metallicity 8 points ago +8 / -0

Exactly. The principles are good but one has to recognize that in the real world not everyone is John Galt.

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NewVoatAccountName 7 points ago +7 / -0

We tried a full-libertarian government.

It was called the Articles of Confederation, which left the federal government so weak that it couldn't even collect taxes, and nearly fell apart when the unpaid soldiers started organizing a coup (only stopped when George Washington personally came to their meeting site and talked them out of their revolt).

Our current Constitution is the result of our nation's founders coming to a compromise in order to make the American Experiment work.

That's the thing about extreme ideologies: just like any other thing (including "breathing oxygen" and "drinking water"), too much or too little can be deadly. It's all about balance, and finding the compromise that best works to match our needs.

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readonly 5 points ago +5 / -0

full libertarian is just as pants on head retarded as full communism... but I'm going to try and get closer to the libertarian side than the communist side as much as reasonably possible

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Spez_Isacuck 15 points ago +15 / -0

Libertarian Trump voter here...

Came to say the same thing. Trump isn’t perfect, but he’s the most libertarian President of my lifetime. Including Reagan. Trump supports the gold standard and is a hawk on the Fed.

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Vivadiscordia 10 points ago +10 / -0

The libertarian movement has been co-opted by leftists. There is no apology for socialism with libertarianism. Also, just want to point out that the uniparty used the concept of total free trade to the detriment of the U.S., and to the benefit of China.

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Metallicity 3 points ago +3 / -0

Free trade is one of those "great concept, terrible practice" things. We follow the rules, everyone else involved bends the rules to their benefit; like subsidizing an industry to dump cheap products and destroy US domestic production.

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Vivadiscordia 2 points ago +2 / -0

Right. Free trade shouldn’t mean closing your eyes and plugging your ears when you are being taken advantage of.

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The_American_Son 2 points ago +2 / -0

Free trade is a great domestic policy, but other countries will never share our definition of “free” in the first place, which is why I like the Trump doctrine of fair trade for international markets.

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WishdoctorsSong 1 point ago +1 / -0

Reciprocal trade is a much better policy. We never had real free trade, we had the US not charging tarrifs while our trading partners were tariffing the fuck out of us. That's not anywhere near free trade.

Second, free trade only works when you trade with nations who share your views regarding employee and environmental protections. Free trade with nations that allow dangerous working conditions and mass pollution is just offloading the social and environmental damage onto another nation while taking on economic damage in your own nation, neither party wins.

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ExileOnRedditStreet 5 points ago +6 / -1

Right you are.