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posted ago by Parogar +19 / -0

MSM either sucks at polling, rigs their polling, or both. We've dealt with mostly shit polls for the past 4 years and I never expect that to change. But I am being genuine when I say that there is something extra unusual going on lately, and I can even remember when it began. But first let me tell you what this "extra" unusual shit it.

So, forget polls that are measuring the election for a second: meaning, forget Trump + this or that in the national or state. Let's just talk about issue polls. Polls that ask voters: "How do you feel about ___ and ____"

Lately, every single Democratic position has shown up MASSIVELY out of swing with what both reality (and history) would suggest is true. In other words, let's say Trump says he supports fracking: the polls show suddenly that Pennsylvania, whose economy depends on it, is against fracking. Same for oil, energy, etc. Every possible subject.

But wait. How is this different? Well, the polls used actually be FAIRLY (but not super duper extremely) shitty when it came to these issues. Meaning, maybe they were 5-10 points off. Now? They're like 30-40 points off.

WHEN DID THIS START?

I remember the exact moment the polls became really fucking weird. It was roughly 5-7 days after the death of George Floyd. It all started with a poll that showed that 75% or something of the country supported Black Lives Matter even though the previous poll before that point showed only around 40% did and BLM was burning down half the country day after day.

Since this poll came out, every single poll about every single issue has been painting a picture of America I don't recognize. It's almost like gaslighting in a sense.

No matter what the issue is, these polls all show that whatever position Democrats take is super popular.

Before George Floyd, the vast majority of Americans were against sending stimulus checks to illegals. After George Floyd? Suddenly, everyone's for it?

A poll out today suggests two thirds of Americans believe in banning gasoline cars and replacing them with shit hybrids that nobody wants or likes. I just can't believe that that's true.

The fuckery here is beyond just the usual horse shit numbers they put out for the election. It's everything now. Either, A, we're the ones out of touch this time around, B, the polls are more devious than ever, or C, Americans are now so scared to say how they feel because of the rioting that they're lying in an unprecedented way.

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SanFranShitty 2 points ago +2 / -0

The commies are the minority and we are onto them now. This is their last ditch Hail Mary attempt to retain power

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Cyphr 1 point ago +1 / -0

None of that crap is true. They are not reporting on public opinion, they are trying to use propaganda to shape public opinion the way they want it to be.

Ignore them. Polls are obsolete at this point because normal people will not talk to pollsters. This is especially true for conservatives.

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Parogar [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes. NYT/Sienna. I did them up until 2018. Now I just politely decline. I just can't listen to their fucking voices. Not with all the shit going on. I refuse to take their polls now.