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UncleSniffyJoe 214 points ago +216 / -2

The best thing you can do for your family right now is figure out what your means are for a single income household and start homeschooling. I'd rather eat nothing but rice and beans for the next ten years than subject my children to anything close to this.

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MagnanimousDonkey 104 points ago +106 / -2

Good thing we discussed this prior to marriage and kids. #1 important thing in marriage is agreement on values.

The best time to do this was yesterday. The second best time is now.

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RenaissanceOfHope -20 points ago +5 / -25

My number one thing in a partner is finding someone who does not want kids ever like me (the term for that is childfree and yes I’m on r/Childfree).

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MainstreamDeviant 14 points ago +15 / -1

maybe stay there then

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maleitch 10 points ago +11 / -1

No one cares. You fucks are like vegans and probably elevate pets to child status.

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RenaissanceOfHope -2 points ago +4 / -6

I’m actually not a vegan, I love chick fil a & bacon.

Yes, when I had a cat she was like my child.

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MagnanimousDonkey 7 points ago +7 / -0

That proves my point. If your values are to not have kids, you should probably find someone who agrees with that, yes?

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RenaissanceOfHope 0 points ago +1 / -1

Exactly. I’m not morally opposed to having kids, I just don’t want them myself.

I just never knew that fell under values. Unfortunately, from my understanding- a lot of women who are childfree are leftists.

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Wabaroo 5 points ago +5 / -0

The worst thing about "childfree" is that it is immensely shortsighted. Don't consider this an attack on you. Just.... a plea for you to consider your future, and your past.

Living child free gives up your future. It gives up your ability to exist in any form beyond your 50+ years on this world. Your giving up the future to others. Who may not share the same values as you, and you and your partners lineage. You are removing your "skin in the game" and it might feel great now. But there is a cutoff for females. A male wont have that issue and so it's less pressing But its selfish to use that as a reason.

My other arguement, that I hold much closer to my heart than the semi-selfish first I gave. Your erasing your past. Everyone who came before you had kids. EVERYONE, otherwise You would not be here. You are TERMINATING a lineage that goes back all the way to the beginning... by choice... that is... selfish and semi-crazy... it's cruel. Your depriving the world of any record of your family's history. Beyond any passing mention in some official record. Anything special in your genetics... ends with you. And your doing it voluntarily. Your ending everything your lineage has ever aimed for. All the people that struggled over history to get their family(genes), A tiny piece of themselves toward the future. Because you want to have fun... Just... think about it in the context beyond your tiny existence on this world. Think about everything that came before to even make you exist, and if you don't feel the tiniest pang of guilt for just deciding it ends with you, well... you do you I suppose.

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Shockrocks 78 points ago +78 / -0

This is the answer. We currently homeschool. It is worth it. I will gladly suffer the rest of my life to ensure that my children have a better start/life than me, and to ensure the commies don’t get their mind.

God speed pede

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Tallsie 21 points ago +21 / -0

Teachers union will never allow vouchers. You will have to destroy that before you can fix anything else

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sixfingerdildo 6 points ago +6 / -0

i always believed this. every person i knew that failed at math did so from a huge mental block; "i can't do math!"

with that attitude, you won't do math. not listening to instructions, not following procedure, refusing to try but complaining the whole time; didn't help.

society says "women are bad at math", "not everyone can do math", "be yourself, don't try anything hard", etc. it's not just the trauma of a friend or family member, it's the world of low expectations.

math teaches abstraction, logic and organization. skills people need more of, now more than ever.

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sackofwisdom 2 points ago +3 / -1

Richard Feynman also says math is a lot easier than it is made out to be. You just need the good text books that are decades old.

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literallyhitler 11 points ago +11 / -0

I've seen plenty of anecdotal accounts from homeschooling parents where the kid ends up going to college for a math degree even though the parents are not good with math. The idea is that once they reach a certain age the kids are able to follow the curriculum and teach themselves, especially if that's what genuinely interests them. They can spend as much time as they need with the concepts and theres no shortage of tutors/resources available for anyone needing extra help. I went to public school and suffered so much in math but once my grandparents got me a tutor I went from failing Algebra to maintaining a B average. I went from being completely lost to showing up to class knowing the lessons beforehand.

That said, glad you were able to find something that works for you guys. I took mine out and we're homeschooling. No way I'm sending my 1st grader to mask jail. No fucking way. If he does go back, we'll do private as well.

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great comment! God Bless!

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braindeadgroup 1 point ago +1 / -0

I want them to add homeschool credits in the school choice proposal

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ThirteenPercenter 13 points ago +19 / -6

My kids are very smart and in high school. How do you suggest I teach physics, calculus, chemistry, pre law, music when I can’t even do those things myself?

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PepesCovfefe 24 points ago +24 / -0

Also there are home school groups where every parent focuses on teaching one or two subjects and they team up together to do it.

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traveravis 20 points ago +21 / -1

Teach them how to learn, and they can teach themselves

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 6 points ago +6 / -0

The Trivium is almost unheard of these days and it's sad.

Grammar-Logic-Rhetoric

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rhoho1118 19 points ago +19 / -0

A good curriculum is the answer to this. I homeschooled for years and know kids who never stepped foot in public or private school that are now successful entrepreneurs, an officer in the Air Force who was accepted into the AF Academy, a partner in a well respected design firm, a physical therapist, an up and coming conservative politician with a law degree.

Their parents were just like us. Only one had a college degree, and it wasn’t in advanced math. The curriculum makes all the difference - along with a group of like minded parents’ support.

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Mynamesprivate 13 points ago +13 / -0

Learn with them? Make them teach you? I honestly dont know, i dont have kids, but maybe those stupid questions i just asked can be refined to help out your family.

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RoscoesMom 7 points ago +7 / -0

My first-grade grandson is being homeschooled this year. Due to his Dad’s Wuflu pay cut, they were unable to afford tuition at the fabulous Christian school he went to in kindergarten. My daughter taught high school years ago but says first-grade is very different. Preps a LOT and says she is always one day smarter than him!

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Tallsie 12 points ago +12 / -0

Don’t be to hard on yourself and try reading the material, then watching some videos on the subject (things like smarter everyday touches a lot of the topics or Khan academy) and then give it your best shot. Every time they have a question you don’t know, find some material and learn it with your child. Teaching them how to research is a far more valuable skill for life for them then getting the answer immediately from an expert.

More simply put, your child will appreciate the time spent with you and the skills learned far more than a quick answer.

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Jmradioman 4 points ago +4 / -0

I do it at about 21 dollars an hour working at a factory. its a lifestyle choice for sure, but I will never send my kids to public school.

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Darkheartisland 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have a better idea. Run for the School Board. Homeschooling can only do so much. We need to change the system from within.