I had a kitten once I rescued. The most precious thing you ever saw. A little tabby colored one that I heard meowing outside on a very stormy, wet, rainy night in the rural countryside in the Philippines. That cat travelled all over Luzon with me. It died and I was sad but when I heard last month that I'm gonna be a father and I can't even begin to describe how much love I feel in my heart right now for my future family. I cannot wait to meet my child in May. It will be the best day of my life.
The worst thing about "childfree" is that it is immensely shortsighted. Don't consider this an attack on you. Just.... a plea for you to consider your future, and your past.
Living child free gives up your future. It gives up your ability to exist in any form beyond your 50+ years on this world. Your giving up the future to others. Who may not share the same values as you, and you and your partners lineage. You are removing your "skin in the game" and it might feel great now. But there is a cutoff for females. A male wont have that issue and so it's less pressing But its selfish to use that as a reason.
My other arguement, that I hold much closer to my heart than the semi-selfish first I gave.
Your erasing your past. Everyone who came before you had kids. EVERYONE, otherwise You would not be here. You are TERMINATING a lineage that goes back all the way to the beginning... by choice... that is... selfish and semi-crazy... it's cruel. Your depriving the world of any record of your family's history. Beyond any passing mention in some official record. Anything special in your genetics... ends with you. And your doing it voluntarily. Your ending everything your lineage has ever aimed for. All the people that struggled over history to get their family(genes), A tiny piece of themselves toward the future. Because you want to have fun...
Just... think about it in the context beyond your tiny existence on this world. Think about everything that came before to even make you exist, and if you don't feel the tiniest pang of guilt for just deciding it ends with you, well... you do you I suppose.
Good thing we discussed this prior to marriage and kids. #1 important thing in marriage is agreement on values.
The best time to do this was yesterday. The second best time is now.
My number one thing in a partner is finding someone who does not want kids ever like me (the term for that is childfree and yes I’m on r/Childfree).
maybe stay there then
No one cares. You fucks are like vegans and probably elevate pets to child status.
I’m actually not a vegan, I love chick fil a & bacon.
Yes, when I had a cat she was like my child.
I had a kitten once I rescued. The most precious thing you ever saw. A little tabby colored one that I heard meowing outside on a very stormy, wet, rainy night in the rural countryside in the Philippines. That cat travelled all over Luzon with me. It died and I was sad but when I heard last month that I'm gonna be a father and I can't even begin to describe how much love I feel in my heart right now for my future family. I cannot wait to meet my child in May. It will be the best day of my life.
That proves my point. If your values are to not have kids, you should probably find someone who agrees with that, yes?
Exactly. I’m not morally opposed to having kids, I just don’t want them myself.
I just never knew that fell under values. Unfortunately, from my understanding- a lot of women who are childfree are leftists.
The worst thing about "childfree" is that it is immensely shortsighted. Don't consider this an attack on you. Just.... a plea for you to consider your future, and your past.
Living child free gives up your future. It gives up your ability to exist in any form beyond your 50+ years on this world. Your giving up the future to others. Who may not share the same values as you, and you and your partners lineage. You are removing your "skin in the game" and it might feel great now. But there is a cutoff for females. A male wont have that issue and so it's less pressing But its selfish to use that as a reason.
My other arguement, that I hold much closer to my heart than the semi-selfish first I gave. Your erasing your past. Everyone who came before you had kids. EVERYONE, otherwise You would not be here. You are TERMINATING a lineage that goes back all the way to the beginning... by choice... that is... selfish and semi-crazy... it's cruel. Your depriving the world of any record of your family's history. Beyond any passing mention in some official record. Anything special in your genetics... ends with you. And your doing it voluntarily. Your ending everything your lineage has ever aimed for. All the people that struggled over history to get their family(genes), A tiny piece of themselves toward the future. Because you want to have fun... Just... think about it in the context beyond your tiny existence on this world. Think about everything that came before to even make you exist, and if you don't feel the tiniest pang of guilt for just deciding it ends with you, well... you do you I suppose.