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ThomasGiferson 105 points ago +105 / -0

Teachers unions.

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SatisfactionCity 60 points ago +60 / -0

Vote for school choice, and against teacher's unions. The teacher's union use to be good, like many mainstream organizations but they're all compromised now. Wipe them out. School Choice.

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DragonEnergyDick 34 points ago +34 / -0

This is why Democrats really hate school choice.

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RegularAmerican 11 points ago +11 / -0

I thought they were PRO choice? Only for killing babies tho not where you send them to school.

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EtTuRINO 7 points ago +7 / -0

Problem is people are just stupid. I know quite a few people who know TERRIBLE teachers that they even personally had and I've always pointed out how big unions suck because they stop these terrible people from getting fired... they ignore it completely.

I've known teachers to be drunk and high at school, get caught, and they still just went on temporary leave at most.

1 teacher dated a student (and later on they got married). Their dating was known at the time, the teacher was "suspended" for awhile (he was just moved to the nearest other school, then moved back when the student's grade graduated).

I've known STEM teachers who couldn't speak English and their class averages were close to 50, one of them actually getting a class average below that. Now yes, the classes should be doing better even without understanding the teachers (textbooks are actually better than teachers for learning) - but teachers who can't string a full sentence in English should not be teaching science and math courses in a fucking English speaking nation!

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EtTuRINO 2 points ago +2 / -0

A lot of people's fall back plan for a career is teaching.

That being said, some people do it for very different reasons. Some want the lenient hours. Some like (whether they realize or not) the low expectations. Some like the authority. Some like people, in particular kids (and I'm not talking about in the Epstein/Biden way).

Where I live teachers after 10 years on the job make decent money and even from the beginning have about 3 months off in total. And honestly, 3 months off alone is enough to get people to forego extra cash and I get why. Who cares if you have more money if you struggle to find time to spend it on vacation, relaxation, family, etc.

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DeafMute 1 point ago +1 / -0

I experienced this when attending undergraduate math classes shared with the education students. The difference in intelligence between the math and education students was day and night. They might be good with young kids, but I wouldn't trust them with any higher-level reasoning.

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operator1214 2 points ago +2 / -0

Teacher's unions were never good.

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ThomasGiferson 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't know, honestly. In the olden days, citizens controlled teachers, schools, and curriculum, through the school board and the PTA. How it works today, I don't know.

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operator1214 1 point ago +1 / -0

Citizens can still exert a lot of control -- but they never do. Guys, school board meetings: go and go prepared.

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EtTuRINO 2 points ago +2 / -0

Schools are a state's responsibility.

Kind of the reason why Obama implemented Common Core, so each state's education would essentially be under federal influence and the Dems need only capture control of 1 federal gov't as opposed to 50 state governments. They failed in getting all 50 but enough states now are beholden to federal assistance that they pretty much don't have the final say on educational matters.

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CaliChica 2 points ago +2 / -0

Aside from Obama influencing Pearson Publishing with a $350 million contract to create the Common Core curriculum to then secure his own book deal with them.