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Jaqen 0 points ago +2 / -2

230 wont matter. These companies can not be rehabilitated. There is no scenario where Uncle Sam moderates the service back to fairness that isn’t a worse cure than the problem.

The only reason these companies have power is dumb consumers who ignored all the warning signs and failed to understand the agreements they approved. Smart consumers steered clear of these services from their inception and have none of the problems being complained about now as a result.

The solution is simple: mass exodus from any service that abuses its user base. Only patronize services that treat the customer fairly. Stop giving power to the bad guys by blind allegiance.

This very website is proof of the power of the invisible hand.

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Gallemore [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

We're not getting a mass exodus yet and there are plenty of good people still trapped in the matrix. I learned in the military to never leave a man behind and that's what I am still focused on now. I woke my girlfriend up this morning on all of this finally, so it is working whether you believe my method is or not.

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Jaqen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wake them all up pede, that much is worth the effort indeed.

But don't stick around in an abusive relationship with the false hope that the abuser will somehow become your friend. They will never be your friend because they hate you and your kind. Hatred is in their nature, and prevents them from ever tolerating you.

All services need some kind of moderation. Without any moderation, we end up with depraved, immoral, illegal content. The type of moderation matters. We all agree on this.

The mistake a great many people are making is to put their emotional attachment to the service ahead of principles. Sure, you have all your photos there and have sunk enormous amounts of time into the service. It is hard to leave. Sunk cost fallacy rearing its ugly head.

But the principles are all too real and present now. These services are amoral, and harmful. It is therefore your duty to do your due diligence and have no part of them. Do not support them.

If Uncle Sam wants to bust them up, fine them, regulate them, or any combination of that or more, that is OK with me I guess. I just see that as a mostly pointless exercise and have written more about why in older posts that I can share if you are truly curious.

But if we go in that direction, are we really asking for a government controlled service? Because let us be real: free speech only applies to your relationship with the government. It does not apply to your relationship with a private business. This is clear to anyone who read the EULAs.

If we want an actual "free speech platform" what you are asking for is Uncle Sam's Social Media Service™. Where the terms of service are the US Constitution. It sounds kind of cool, sort of, in theory. But how would it play out, practically? And how soon before it was compromised by ideologues?

Round and round we go, and end up right back at the conundrum: are people smart enough to chose their tech providers wisely? Will they follow the herd off of the cliff, or will they fight to support and create better, fairer services?

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Gallemore [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Love this whole last comment, by the way. This is how we should think. Glad to know others think the same! No disagreements with anything you said here. You should write for a living.

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Jaqen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you for that and for reading. We all need to think critically about this and analyze the big picture. All the details matter.