As a conservative who is also a teacher, I work hard to make sure my students know about American history, government, and their rights lined out in the constitution. From my perspective, I can tell this would be used against people like me who teach facts and not political opinion. Also, who in their right mind wants to be on video all day, every day at work, while being viewed/criticized by the average person in their community(half of whom are below average intelligence, and have no background in teaching)? Do not presume that if you could look at that video surveillance and make informed decisions about the job performance of the teacher, that even a fraction of the rest of the community could. Just like how uninformed people vote for politicians, uninformed people would be making complaints about teachers who are actually doing a good job.
Also, as a parent, I definitely wouldnt want a lot of other parents in my community watching the classroom with my daughter in it.
Parents should definitely be informed of classroom content and allowed access to their children at all times, but video monitoring all teachers at work is not the solution.
You and your daughter are already on camera all day long and it is being watched by some unsavory individuals whom you do not know. The only other people watching would be the parents of the other students in the classroom. You may see issues coming of it. But i see the camera as more of a protection for you. As long as you stick to the curriculum like you say you do, you have nothing to worry about it. You know how many police have had their asses saved by a body camera? Ill bet among those ranks are those who opposed body cameras as well. You may not feel so, but you are accountable to the parents of the kids you teach even if you dont agree with them politically or factually. Those parents should be allowed to criticize your performance either way, and you should have th opportunity to learn and grow from it as an educator
It’s a bit ironic that this article is about BLM riots, yet you don’t see how having cameras can be a very bad thing in certain situations. All of these riots started because of people interpreting what they see on camera as police brutality and racism, even though it wasn’t.
And as a conservative teacher myself, I am with u/dayman789 on this. The problem is that no parent would agree on what should be getting taught and how it should be taught. I’d be crippled in my work if I had had 100+ individuals telling me contradictory opinions how they think things ought to be done. The same thing is true in any profession.
I think there should be more accountability with teachers and that they should be more transparent about what they are teaching, but a constant surveillance state is not the answer. The real focus should begetting rid of teachers unions. They are the protectors of educational malpractice. Bad teachers caught on camera would still be protected by the teachers unions.
Not sure where you're getting your video surveillance info from there. What camera are we on all day? Who are these unsavory individuals? We limit time in front of screens, computer cameras are covered up, and school cameras are in hallways only.
If I were in the line of work where I was dealing with criminals on a daily basis, and my testimony was often to be expected in a court of law, then yes, I would want a camera and find it useful. However, being on camera all day is not something I have ever desired, thus one more reason I chose the profession of educator.
As for your accusation that I may not feel accountable to parents, nothing could be further from the truth. I am accountable to each and every one and not a single parent is kept in the dark about anything involving my course and their children. That includes them having access to every assignment, standard, and lesson information. They can contact me anytime through multiple means of communication and get answers to any questions they may have about their child, the lessons, grades, and content. I spend much of my day being accountable to parents, answering their questions, and yes, their criticisms(which of course they are allowed to have). I would never argue they aren't allowed to criticize me or my performance, but that doesn't mean they need to have 100% unrestricted access to me and every literal physical move I make.
I would argue that if you are so untrusting of every teacher, and cannot find a way to know what's going on inside your child's classroom outside of video footage every single day, maybe you need to be in more control of the education process involving your child. Homeschooling is really a great option for people who desire more control over their child's education, and it should be taken advantage of. Just look at the other comments in this thread, people are obviously in favor of it in areas where they don't trust their teachers.
You have cameras that spy on you all day, and that was proven by Snowden. That is besides the fact that you are on camera at least 50% of the time after you walk out your front door. Cameras are a reality of life, and im not sure that is a hard concept to grasp. If you ever used a dashcam you realize how it can make you a better driver as well as cover your ass from a situation where it is your word against someone elses. I looked at the other comments too. My favorite: "Teachers do more damage than cops, They should absolutely be on camera while giving lessons." Not verbatim, but you can read the comments as well as you can see the upvites on this post. They wouldnt have access to you and every move you make, just moves you make in the classroom. Even then only while class is in session, and only for the parents of the children in the class. So long as you are in that classroom giving a lesson you shouldnt be making any moves you should feel bashful about, period. Any teacher that figures I should look into homeshooling because they cant accept more accountability is one I wouldn't have teaching my kids. Enough said
Look man, we are going to have to agree to disagree. Aside from your big brother security cameras see me in a public street argument so I should be ok with cameras everywhere, from how you're framing your argument here, it would appear you're thinking that I'm trying to hide something by not having myself recorded all class every day. Not happening. Not because teachers are super shady and hiding something(at least most arent in my experience), but because
I dont want to be on camera for parents to have a constant stream of commentary about each lesson. I have over 160 parents/guardians, who will all have a different opinion on how I should teach topics like the 1st and 2nd amendment. They are welcome to know what I teach, how I assess, and ask any questions, but anything else they want their kids to know on the subject outside of standards is up to them to tell their kids(parents have a job to teach their own kids too, a novel idea, I know)
I am trained, experienced, and competent enough to teach without a barrage of "help" from people who could not pass a government test today. Once again, they are welcome to comment and question with me individually anytime, but not by being a part of my classroom. It would be similar to saying if you livestream your job in any industry(I.T., banking, construction, food service, etc.), you would do better with 100+ random pedestrians telling you how to do it. Just because someone has a kid in your class doesnt mean they know more about teaching, differentiating lessons, assessing, using assessment data, and info on the topic than you do.
Having a camera watching me doesnt make me a better teacher like a dashcam makes you a better driver. I, for one, teach (and drive) the same with or without being watched because I go by the book. Just because some people dont follow the rules doesnt mean I need to be punished(ahem, 2nd Amendment restrictions ring any bells)
I am not bashful about my "moves" but goodness knows that people take video out of context. Especially students. An edited clip of me out of context could make me lose my job for nothing else than someone was deceptive with the footage.
Finally, I only suggest home schooling for people who are super passionate about their child's education. If that doesnt suit you, be a teacher. Lord knows we need more conservatives in the field. There is a lot that could be improved about the field(like the self destructive unions). Be a part of the solution before trying to punish those of us who are actually responsible and good at our jobs.
As a conservative who is also a teacher, I work hard to make sure my students know about American history, government, and their rights lined out in the constitution. From my perspective, I can tell this would be used against people like me who teach facts and not political opinion. Also, who in their right mind wants to be on video all day, every day at work, while being viewed/criticized by the average person in their community(half of whom are below average intelligence, and have no background in teaching)? Do not presume that if you could look at that video surveillance and make informed decisions about the job performance of the teacher, that even a fraction of the rest of the community could. Just like how uninformed people vote for politicians, uninformed people would be making complaints about teachers who are actually doing a good job.
Also, as a parent, I definitely wouldnt want a lot of other parents in my community watching the classroom with my daughter in it.
Parents should definitely be informed of classroom content and allowed access to their children at all times, but video monitoring all teachers at work is not the solution.
You and your daughter are already on camera all day long and it is being watched by some unsavory individuals whom you do not know. The only other people watching would be the parents of the other students in the classroom. You may see issues coming of it. But i see the camera as more of a protection for you. As long as you stick to the curriculum like you say you do, you have nothing to worry about it. You know how many police have had their asses saved by a body camera? Ill bet among those ranks are those who opposed body cameras as well. You may not feel so, but you are accountable to the parents of the kids you teach even if you dont agree with them politically or factually. Those parents should be allowed to criticize your performance either way, and you should have th opportunity to learn and grow from it as an educator
It’s a bit ironic that this article is about BLM riots, yet you don’t see how having cameras can be a very bad thing in certain situations. All of these riots started because of people interpreting what they see on camera as police brutality and racism, even though it wasn’t.
And as a conservative teacher myself, I am with u/dayman789 on this. The problem is that no parent would agree on what should be getting taught and how it should be taught. I’d be crippled in my work if I had had 100+ individuals telling me contradictory opinions how they think things ought to be done. The same thing is true in any profession.
I think there should be more accountability with teachers and that they should be more transparent about what they are teaching, but a constant surveillance state is not the answer. The real focus should begetting rid of teachers unions. They are the protectors of educational malpractice. Bad teachers caught on camera would still be protected by the teachers unions.
Not sure where you're getting your video surveillance info from there. What camera are we on all day? Who are these unsavory individuals? We limit time in front of screens, computer cameras are covered up, and school cameras are in hallways only.
If I were in the line of work where I was dealing with criminals on a daily basis, and my testimony was often to be expected in a court of law, then yes, I would want a camera and find it useful. However, being on camera all day is not something I have ever desired, thus one more reason I chose the profession of educator.
As for your accusation that I may not feel accountable to parents, nothing could be further from the truth. I am accountable to each and every one and not a single parent is kept in the dark about anything involving my course and their children. That includes them having access to every assignment, standard, and lesson information. They can contact me anytime through multiple means of communication and get answers to any questions they may have about their child, the lessons, grades, and content. I spend much of my day being accountable to parents, answering their questions, and yes, their criticisms(which of course they are allowed to have). I would never argue they aren't allowed to criticize me or my performance, but that doesn't mean they need to have 100% unrestricted access to me and every literal physical move I make.
I would argue that if you are so untrusting of every teacher, and cannot find a way to know what's going on inside your child's classroom outside of video footage every single day, maybe you need to be in more control of the education process involving your child. Homeschooling is really a great option for people who desire more control over their child's education, and it should be taken advantage of. Just look at the other comments in this thread, people are obviously in favor of it in areas where they don't trust their teachers.
You have cameras that spy on you all day, and that was proven by Snowden. That is besides the fact that you are on camera at least 50% of the time after you walk out your front door. Cameras are a reality of life, and im not sure that is a hard concept to grasp. If you ever used a dashcam you realize how it can make you a better driver as well as cover your ass from a situation where it is your word against someone elses. I looked at the other comments too. My favorite: "Teachers do more damage than cops, They should absolutely be on camera while giving lessons." Not verbatim, but you can read the comments as well as you can see the upvites on this post. They wouldnt have access to you and every move you make, just moves you make in the classroom. Even then only while class is in session, and only for the parents of the children in the class. So long as you are in that classroom giving a lesson you shouldnt be making any moves you should feel bashful about, period. Any teacher that figures I should look into homeshooling because they cant accept more accountability is one I wouldn't have teaching my kids. Enough said
Look man, we are going to have to agree to disagree. Aside from your big brother security cameras see me in a public street argument so I should be ok with cameras everywhere, from how you're framing your argument here, it would appear you're thinking that I'm trying to hide something by not having myself recorded all class every day. Not happening. Not because teachers are super shady and hiding something(at least most arent in my experience), but because
I dont want to be on camera for parents to have a constant stream of commentary about each lesson. I have over 160 parents/guardians, who will all have a different opinion on how I should teach topics like the 1st and 2nd amendment. They are welcome to know what I teach, how I assess, and ask any questions, but anything else they want their kids to know on the subject outside of standards is up to them to tell their kids(parents have a job to teach their own kids too, a novel idea, I know)
I am trained, experienced, and competent enough to teach without a barrage of "help" from people who could not pass a government test today. Once again, they are welcome to comment and question with me individually anytime, but not by being a part of my classroom. It would be similar to saying if you livestream your job in any industry(I.T., banking, construction, food service, etc.), you would do better with 100+ random pedestrians telling you how to do it. Just because someone has a kid in your class doesnt mean they know more about teaching, differentiating lessons, assessing, using assessment data, and info on the topic than you do.
Having a camera watching me doesnt make me a better teacher like a dashcam makes you a better driver. I, for one, teach (and drive) the same with or without being watched because I go by the book. Just because some people dont follow the rules doesnt mean I need to be punished(ahem, 2nd Amendment restrictions ring any bells)
I am not bashful about my "moves" but goodness knows that people take video out of context. Especially students. An edited clip of me out of context could make me lose my job for nothing else than someone was deceptive with the footage.
Finally, I only suggest home schooling for people who are super passionate about their child's education. If that doesnt suit you, be a teacher. Lord knows we need more conservatives in the field. There is a lot that could be improved about the field(like the self destructive unions). Be a part of the solution before trying to punish those of us who are actually responsible and good at our jobs.