He's always been flaky. And didn't Trump call him the "dumbest" something-or-other in 2016? But Trump has endorsed him now (another reason it'll look bad if he loses).
Judges is definitely a benefit that would have not happened without the Trump administration, but the only reason Grahamnasty did it is because Lord Turtle willed it.
These people are fucking snakes; but they need to be PRIMARIED, not left to lose in the general.
To put it in perspective; if Trump is 1000% MAGA:
Grenell is 500% MAGA
Ratcliffe appears to be 250% MAGA
Various assorted congressmen and senators who *seem to be based would be in the 100% range.
McConnell is 10% MAGA, and Graham is also 10% MAGA because McConnell allows him to be.
Same goes for Burr, Rubio, etc etc
Then any democrat is -10000000%, at best.
Fucking get out and vote for Ms Lindsey, we will deal with his limp wristed ass later.
And by later, I don’t mean in 6 years - we should be able to get him arrested before that, but for now we need him.
Having primary challengers is not the same thing as being primaried (like Eric Cantor was PRIMARIED) but I’m not trying to be obtuse or argue semantics with you.
To answer your question, the problem is the same problem with all these voters who keep re-electing these turds (Graham isn’t the only one, the majority of Republican congressmen and almost all of the senate are turds); “BuT mY gUY iS oNE of ThE GoOD gUyS!”
Conservative voters are like battered spouses - they take the lies, betrayals, and abuse for five years and then when election time comes the turd (in this case Grahamnasty) puts out a few ads, does a few hannity interviews, call their Republican primary opponents socialists, and they get re-elected.
We need to figure out a way to break the cycle. I personally will not vote for an incumbent Republican in any primary (I did break that rule to vote for Trump), no matter how good I think ‘my guy’ might be; but more people need to vote that way.
Cantor lost because he was an arrogant piece of shit. He didn’t even campaign or talk to any of his constituents; he was above them. I’ve heard and seen lots of Graham ads talking about how he fights for Donald Trump, etc, and I’m not even in SC. That's how he fends off primaries.
It’s not just SC. It’s everywhere. The longer a politician is in office the more likely they are to be corrupted by DC. Coincidentally, they also get better at lying to their constituents come election time and have larger war chests to fend off primary challengers, who are almost always the underdog.
Look at any of the PACs controlled by Mitch McConell (“the senate leadership fund paid for the content of this ad” etc) and you will find corrupted swamp monsters at the receiving end of those ads.
We need new blood in DC, but unless patriots are willing to get off their asses and vote against incumbents in the primaries, it will only continue to get worse.
Not talking about SC, I’m talking ablut the Senate comittee that Miss Lindsay chairs. If he loses, we can replace his RINO ass with somebody who can MAGA.
If he loses, its cause he did not MAGA enough. He had 4 years. If he wins, itwill be a squeaker. We actually cant afford him to lose. We need the Senate seat
SC has a 10 percent year over year migration surplus. AKA massive amounts of New York and new jersey yankee fucks are retiring here to avoid the taxes they voted for. And they are now voting for the same people that ruined their state. All I see are Jamie Harrison signs all over the fucking place. It’s disgusting.
Despite a rocky beginning with Trump, Graham has morphed into a reliable vote for the president, and really stepped up during the Kavanaugh clown show.
Trump won the state by 14 percentage points, but I've read about how Harrison is appealing to many on local issues. And Graham has resorted to running biographical campaign ads. I'm just wondering why he feels the need to "introduce" himself to constituents after 25 years in D.C.
If Graham loses, it's TWO Democrat Senators from SC (just like NY), name recognition and publicity for Harrison's gubernatorial run, and (just like NY) Dems at every flippin' level of their state government.
And the implications on the national front are horrific.
That's what Republicans take for granted, and what Dems want to change.
"Red states" are not static entities which remain red forever. Constant vigilance and action is required.
If our side doesn't realize that, and starts losing the south (and SC is the deep south, for crying out loud--we're not talking about southern states now loaded with transplants from the northeast or west), this country is in trouble, indeed.
Yes, I agree. The schools and liberal colleges are turning our kids blue. The root of the problem lies here. Future voters are at stake. Not Graham's biggest fan, but I pray he wins.
It's extremely unwise to cheer on giving up seats in the senate at this point. The Dems desperately want to flip the senate. If Trump wins the election but loses the senate majority, that would be a disaster.
LOL The lackadaisical attitude among some (thankfully, not all) here would be hilarious if the stakes weren't so high.
But...but...last time I looked, it was red state! 🤔Okaaay...then we should be looking at, what, Harrison pulling in 18-20% of that vote? I see.
No, you say? It might be more than that... Really? How much more, since you don't believe any polling, or your fellow pedes' lyin' eyes when they see his signs all over SC?
What's the "safe" percentage Harrison could get without being perceived as, at least, a reflection of how insidious the left's encroachment on the south has been, and what that means for the future?
And I suppose the influx of cash into Harrison's coffers--$57 million from July through September, and $2 million in two days, alone, last week--doesn't mean anything, either. And the fact that Soros and Bloomberg are bankrolling a last-minute push for Harrison, and trying to flip other "solid red" seats? Pfffftttt, right?
Does anyone really think that Soros, Bloomberg, or the entire left machine give ONE dusty f**k about what they call "flyover country" and their residents? They're trying to do what some of YOU don't think is being done.
Lindsey Graham has has many opportunities to shine under GEOTUS but has not. He is not a friend, but is rather a enemy of the enemy, so must be supported. Why was he not primaried?
Lindsey has tried to walk the tie-rope between the Deep State friends he loves and POTUS who he endures. People hate his fecklessness and want him to pay a price. But now is not the time for payback. His will come in time.
The same people saying that Miss Lindsey needs to be re-elected because we need the seat, unironically berate the libs who are voting for Biden.
Same concept kids. You vote for the devil who promises to continue your preferred agenda. Ethics has gone out the window because of politics like this. At some point, conservatives will only get the representatives we deserve when we vote out the RINOs who play on our desperation to "keep the seat" when they don't actually vote for what we want once they are in.
POTUS endorsed Lindsey, love him or hate him he HAS to be re elected.
you say that, but so long as the GOP hold the senate with ~58+ seats, would you really miss the old cunt?
we all know he's a spinless RINO at heart..
Someone's not been paying attention. Trump needs all the senate votes he can get.
And Miss Lindsay’s comittee needs a new chairman.
not arguing that, but consider how flakey the cunt is, so long as Trump has a clear majority, fuck him
He's always been flaky. And didn't Trump call him the "dumbest" something-or-other in 2016? But Trump has endorsed him now (another reason it'll look bad if he loses).
He needs to win.
Judges is definitely a benefit that would have not happened without the Trump administration, but the only reason Grahamnasty did it is because Lord Turtle willed it.
These people are fucking snakes; but they need to be PRIMARIED, not left to lose in the general.
To put it in perspective; if Trump is 1000% MAGA: Grenell is 500% MAGA Ratcliffe appears to be 250% MAGA Various assorted congressmen and senators who *seem to be based would be in the 100% range.
McConnell is 10% MAGA, and Graham is also 10% MAGA because McConnell allows him to be.
Same goes for Burr, Rubio, etc etc
Then any democrat is -10000000%, at best.
Fucking get out and vote for Ms Lindsey, we will deal with his limp wristed ass later.
And by later, I don’t mean in 6 years - we should be able to get him arrested before that, but for now we need him.
Graham WAS "PRIMARIED." Three Republicans ran against him. Six years ago, five or six Republicans ran against him.
Hence, my question: What is wrong with [the people of] South Carolina?
Having primary challengers is not the same thing as being primaried (like Eric Cantor was PRIMARIED) but I’m not trying to be obtuse or argue semantics with you.
To answer your question, the problem is the same problem with all these voters who keep re-electing these turds (Graham isn’t the only one, the majority of Republican congressmen and almost all of the senate are turds); “BuT mY gUY iS oNE of ThE GoOD gUyS!”
Conservative voters are like battered spouses - they take the lies, betrayals, and abuse for five years and then when election time comes the turd (in this case Grahamnasty) puts out a few ads, does a few hannity interviews, call their Republican primary opponents socialists, and they get re-elected.
We need to figure out a way to break the cycle. I personally will not vote for an incumbent Republican in any primary (I did break that rule to vote for Trump), no matter how good I think ‘my guy’ might be; but more people need to vote that way.
The purpose--and result-- is the same. And Cantor is no longer on The Hill because he lost a primary challenge.
That hasn't happened in SC, where voters continue to choose Graham as the Republican candidate.
Cantor lost because he was an arrogant piece of shit. He didn’t even campaign or talk to any of his constituents; he was above them. I’ve heard and seen lots of Graham ads talking about how he fights for Donald Trump, etc, and I’m not even in SC. That's how he fends off primaries.
It’s not just SC. It’s everywhere. The longer a politician is in office the more likely they are to be corrupted by DC. Coincidentally, they also get better at lying to their constituents come election time and have larger war chests to fend off primary challengers, who are almost always the underdog.
Look at any of the PACs controlled by Mitch McConell (“the senate leadership fund paid for the content of this ad” etc) and you will find corrupted swamp monsters at the receiving end of those ads.
We need new blood in DC, but unless patriots are willing to get off their asses and vote against incumbents in the primaries, it will only continue to get worse.
And there’s Throngs of actual republicans who will do better after Miss Lindsay is gone.
For the love of Mike, voters in SC aren't electing anyone who'll "do better." Between this and his last run, voters rejected NINE other Republicans.
I repeat, What is wrong with SC? That happens to be the subject of this thread.
Not talking about SC, I’m talking ablut the Senate comittee that Miss Lindsay chairs. If he loses, we can replace his RINO ass with somebody who can MAGA.
so fucking what?
that's about all he has done, and look what a pigs ear he made of the Kavignar hearings...
outside of this, name a single thing the committee under him has achieved?
name the sopena's he's issued?
Tell that to Miss Lindsay.
If he loses, its cause he did not MAGA enough. He had 4 years. If he wins, itwill be a squeaker. We actually cant afford him to lose. We need the Senate seat
Yes. You get it. 👍
Lindsay, unfortunately, doesn’t.
The proper way to get rid of RINO's is in the primaries - not by handing their seat to a Dimocrat.
They obviously did not get rid of him in the primaries, so even a RINO is better than a Dimocrat any day. He needs to win.
It's that simple.
Well said.
SC has a 10 percent year over year migration surplus. AKA massive amounts of New York and new jersey yankee fucks are retiring here to avoid the taxes they voted for. And they are now voting for the same people that ruined their state. All I see are Jamie Harrison signs all over the fucking place. It’s disgusting.
Despite a rocky beginning with Trump, Graham has morphed into a reliable vote for the president, and really stepped up during the Kavanaugh clown show.
Trump won the state by 14 percentage points, but I've read about how Harrison is appealing to many on local issues. And Graham has resorted to running biographical campaign ads. I'm just wondering why he feels the need to "introduce" himself to constituents after 25 years in D.C.
If Graham loses, it's TWO Democrat Senators from SC (just like NY), name recognition and publicity for Harrison's gubernatorial run, and (just like NY) Dems at every flippin' level of their state government.
And the implications on the national front are horrific.
The polls can lick my pole. SC is a red state last time I checked.
That's what Republicans take for granted, and what Dems want to change.
"Red states" are not static entities which remain red forever. Constant vigilance and action is required.
If our side doesn't realize that, and starts losing the south (and SC is the deep south, for crying out loud--we're not talking about southern states now loaded with transplants from the northeast or west), this country is in trouble, indeed.
Yes, I agree. The schools and liberal colleges are turning our kids blue. The root of the problem lies here. Future voters are at stake. Not Graham's biggest fan, but I pray he wins.
Yes.
We must take the hit for 6 years. Otherwise, the RINOS will keep doing what they do best, give up our liberties.
Graham is the enemy. He's actually worse than that. He wears our colors and that makes him a dangerous person.
Timing is everything.
With a bare majority in the senate, and a few other vulnerable seats on our side, this is NOT the time to "take a [six-year] hit."
It's extremely unwise to cheer on giving up seats in the senate at this point. The Dems desperately want to flip the senate. If Trump wins the election but loses the senate majority, that would be a disaster.
LOL The lackadaisical attitude among some (thankfully, not all) here would be hilarious if the stakes weren't so high.
But...but...last time I looked, it was red state! 🤔Okaaay...then we should be looking at, what, Harrison pulling in 18-20% of that vote? I see.
No, you say? It might be more than that... Really? How much more, since you don't believe any polling, or your fellow pedes' lyin' eyes when they see his signs all over SC?
What's the "safe" percentage Harrison could get without being perceived as, at least, a reflection of how insidious the left's encroachment on the south has been, and what that means for the future?
And I suppose the influx of cash into Harrison's coffers--$57 million from July through September, and $2 million in two days, alone, last week--doesn't mean anything, either. And the fact that Soros and Bloomberg are bankrolling a last-minute push for Harrison, and trying to flip other "solid red" seats? Pfffftttt, right?
Does anyone really think that Soros, Bloomberg, or the entire left machine give ONE dusty f**k about what they call "flyover country" and their residents? They're trying to do what some of YOU don't think is being done.
To whom it applies: Wake up.
SC pede here, we are stuck with the snake. Now is just not the time to give up the Senate. The first chance we get he's gone.
He will win comfortably. Polls are garbage.
Lindsey Graham has has many opportunities to shine under GEOTUS but has not. He is not a friend, but is rather a enemy of the enemy, so must be supported. Why was he not primaried?
He was. By two challengers.
Lindsey has tried to walk the tie-rope between the Deep State friends he loves and POTUS who he endures. People hate his fecklessness and want him to pay a price. But now is not the time for payback. His will come in time.
I don’t see much difference between Miss Lindsay and a commie.
The same people saying that Miss Lindsey needs to be re-elected because we need the seat, unironically berate the libs who are voting for Biden.
Same concept kids. You vote for the devil who promises to continue your preferred agenda. Ethics has gone out the window because of politics like this. At some point, conservatives will only get the representatives we deserve when we vote out the RINOs who play on our desperation to "keep the seat" when they don't actually vote for what we want once they are in.