Great question. Would it matter if the impeachment(s) are political vs criminal charges?
Certainly the swamp dictates whether they sit on pedophile materials vs 12 armed agents to a no-knock raid for process crimes. Makes you wonder how trust worthy those agencies are ?
Comey and Mueller put two innocent men into prison where they died to cover for Whitey Bulger, so no, even if it were criminal offenses, nothing gets done to the elites.
Really makes a man want to get Intouch with some black face paint, learn some maps and hone that tomahawk up real nice.
I ain't talking about fines, or even jail time. I am talking ADX time. Right down in that fucking pit next to Noriega and the prison gang leaders. And no 5 to 10, life for these mothertruckers.
So lets assume Trump knew about the laptop, and knew about the FBI holding onto it. Now with the recent change that makes it easier to fire federal employees, the FBI sitting on actual child porn because it involved the son of a presidential candidate has to be the single biggest public discrediting of the FBI in the agencies very corrupt history. I hope that the laptop is going to be the justification for finally gutting the FBI.
Hoover clung to power for almost 50 years as America's secret police chief, maintaining his position largely through the voluminous files he accumulated on the peccadilloes of prominent politicians: financial, sexual, and criminal.
The White House FBI files controversy of the Clinton Administration, often referred to as Filegate,[1] arose in June 1996 around improper access in 1993 and 1994 to FBI security-clearance documents. Craig Livingstone, director of the White House's Office of Personnel Security, improperly requested, and received from the FBI, background reports concerning several hundred individuals without asking permission. The revelations provoked a strong political and press reaction because many of the files covered White House employees from previous Republican administrations, including top presidential advisors. Under criticism, Livingstone resigned from his position. Allegations were made that senior White House figures, including First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, may have requested and read the files for political purposes, and that the First Lady had authorized the hiring of the underqualified Livingstone.
Exculpatory evidence in an impeachment trial, and they hide it. How can a government agency like that even continue after something like this. What is the point. The US has less harmful enemies.
Wray and every corrupt asshole like him should be charged. Put these cunts in lockup and make sure their successor knows we’ll do it to them next if they play these games.
Also, all crimes done by sitting officials like Wray should carry much harsher sentences. Ruin their lives like ours would be if we did this shit.
He thought he was keeping it "secret" but as we know now, Trump appears to know everything. He will even pretend that he doesn't know, just so they think he doesn't know, just so when they fall they fall even harder.
All through impeachment and didn’t even report it to the President. He’s either corrupt or incompetent. Corrupt if he hid it. Incompetent if he didn’t put 2 and 2 together to figure out they were going with impeachment over exactly what the Biden’s were doing.
If we can win all three branches we should gut the FBI and CIA - switch them out to several different new agencies and add a watchdog agency that just watches them. It cannot do anything else but punish corrupt FBI guys...
You cannot have the FBI policing the FBI - it simply does not work.
But if there was no FBI, who would come forward and tell us that the terrorists who just shot some place up or blew something up had been on their watch list for the past 2 years?
After Trump wins, he needs to do whatever it takes to put general Flynn back on his team. He knows where all the bodies are buried and is the perfect person to assist Trump I'm giving after corrupt government officials.
How did this guy even get in after Comey got fired? Does Trump not get to pick who runs the rbi? and if he picked Wray how he keep getting bit by snakes?
My only hope at this point is a Trump win. But even then, I cannot be sure he will be effective in rooting out corruption because it's apparently so pervasive.
The thing that echoes in my mind is the phrase, for evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men do nothing. This is prevalent because I know local cops in multiple precincts. I know the bullshit departments do to cops that "rat" out other cops. This goes all the way up to the FBI and other alphabet agencies. The standing order to be in the BATF is you have to hate the 2nd Amendment and gun owners but that's common knowledge.
The FBI has always had the pretense of being the premiere law enforcement agency in the nation. Now, I don't believe that even a little. Are there good agents? Yes. Are there agents good enough to stand up to a corrupt system? No. I do not believe that at all.
I honestly never believed those words I just typed would hurt as much as they do and I've stated in the past that there is no justice in the nation any longer for actual wrongdoing. Now I actually believe it. They hurt because I think this points to it being over for the USA.
So even with a Trump win, I don't believe the nation can be saved. Trump would have to immediately fire everyone but field agents, thousands of employees to purge the agency, create a system of oversight rivaling the most hardcore authoritarian regimes in history, and then not give them any teeth. More importantly, he'll have to break up DC. Send agencies across the country. Split them up and get them out of that swamp town. That ain't happening.
Sorry for the rant and the (what's the term for it?) concern trolling? It's honestly how I feel. I'll still vote, i'll still do what I can to get conservatives elected. I don't think it will help in the end.
Trump doesn't seem to have the stomach for what needs to happen. People need to disappear to the tune of hundreds of thousands to even just stop the deterioration
The day I will be optimistic about this country and the world at large is the day Wray and his cohorts GET REAL JUSTICE.
Great question. Would it matter if the impeachment(s) are political vs criminal charges?
Certainly the swamp dictates whether they sit on pedophile materials vs 12 armed agents to a no-knock raid for process crimes. Makes you wonder how trust worthy those agencies are ?
Comey and Mueller put two innocent men into prison where they died to cover for Whitey Bulger, so no, even if it were criminal offenses, nothing gets done to the elites.
Really makes a man want to get Intouch with some black face paint, learn some maps and hone that tomahawk up real nice.
It depends if your sponsor starts with a D or not.
Trump should fire him on Nov 4th...announce it in his acceptance speech.
No ... just call him to the WH, put them in shackles and fly them to gitmo for further interrogation.
It is constitutionally wrong for an agency of the executive branch to be not under the full purview and control of the President.
Does he also keep info on Pearl Harbor attack from the President?
What else are these employee-dictators holding back from the President????
I ain't talking about fines, or even jail time. I am talking ADX time. Right down in that fucking pit next to Noriega and the prison gang leaders. And no 5 to 10, life for these mothertruckers.
So lets assume Trump knew about the laptop, and knew about the FBI holding onto it. Now with the recent change that makes it easier to fire federal employees, the FBI sitting on actual child porn because it involved the son of a presidential candidate has to be the single biggest public discrediting of the FBI in the agencies very corrupt history. I hope that the laptop is going to be the justification for finally gutting the FBI.
The FBI is not Skully and Mulder.
Blackmail was always the FBI's purpose.
Full text of "J. Edgar Hoover - G-Man In A G-String"
Anyone remember Filegate?
He shouldn't be fired. He should be tried and prosecuted for criminal malfeasance and treason.
Dereliction of duty at least
The FBI was keeping it to control Joe and any other person on it.
They hate Trump because they have NOTHING on him, despite their best efforts. They had to manufacture the Steele dossier.
Is this the “breaking news”???
I don't think so, that story has been up on GP for at least a day, maybe 2
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-exclusive-text-messages-show-vp-biden-wife-brother-key-family-members-aware-concerned-colluded-suppress-hunters-actions-around-certain-minor/
Probably will come out after SCOTUS approval vote. They don't want to rock the boat right now is my guess.
Instruction of justice charges and treason would be a good start.
Kept it secret because he was pulling his purse to the kiddie pron he found on it, likely
This should be the end of the FBI.
Exculpatory evidence in an impeachment trial, and they hide it. How can a government agency like that even continue after something like this. What is the point. The US has less harmful enemies.
You have any confidence in him now, Barr? You fat toad.
THIS MOTHERFUCKER HAS TO BE FIRED LIKE A DOG PUBLICLY
Come on man!
And escort him from the building. Take away his pension and security clearance.
Who exactly can we trust these days? Why are we even playing this game by any rules when clearly they are not following any?
Wray and every corrupt asshole like him should be charged. Put these cunts in lockup and make sure their successor knows we’ll do it to them next if they play these games.
Also, all crimes done by sitting officials like Wray should carry much harsher sentences. Ruin their lives like ours would be if we did this shit.
He thought he was keeping it "secret" but as we know now, Trump appears to know everything. He will even pretend that he doesn't know, just so they think he doesn't know, just so when they fall they fall even harder.
Honestly, if we knew all of what Comey has done, then we would not say this.
Not that Wray is not PURE SHIT. He is! He should go TODAY.
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All through impeachment and didn’t even report it to the President. He’s either corrupt or incompetent. Corrupt if he hid it. Incompetent if he didn’t put 2 and 2 together to figure out they were going with impeachment over exactly what the Biden’s were doing.
Line the traitors up.
I want to watch them all BEG for their lives.
Out! Out! Out!!!
Federal Bureau of Incompetence
... at best.
Federal Bureau of Irresponsibility
If we can win all three branches we should gut the FBI and CIA - switch them out to several different new agencies and add a watchdog agency that just watches them. It cannot do anything else but punish corrupt FBI guys...
You cannot have the FBI policing the FBI - it simply does not work.
Fire this piece of shit traitor! Just get rid of the FBI all together. They've done nothing for us.
But if there was no FBI, who would come forward and tell us that the terrorists who just shot some place up or blew something up had been on their watch list for the past 2 years?
After Trump wins, he needs to do whatever it takes to put general Flynn back on his team. He knows where all the bodies are buried and is the perfect person to assist Trump I'm giving after corrupt government officials.
No more unilateral decisions about what to investigate and what not to investigate.
Investigate everything, public trials, and let justice serve it's course.
If they won't even let the charges get to court, how would we ever know what evidence there is.
I SMELL BLACKMAIL FODDER!!!
Dereliction of duty ... should be some sort of punishment for this ...
We don't have systemic racism, we have systemic acts of Treason against a sitting president.
FIRE this Traitor already along with his Fat ASS Boss Barr.
How did this guy even get in after Comey got fired? Does Trump not get to pick who runs the rbi? and if he picked Wray how he keep getting bit by snakes?
My only hope at this point is a Trump win. But even then, I cannot be sure he will be effective in rooting out corruption because it's apparently so pervasive.
The thing that echoes in my mind is the phrase, for evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men do nothing. This is prevalent because I know local cops in multiple precincts. I know the bullshit departments do to cops that "rat" out other cops. This goes all the way up to the FBI and other alphabet agencies. The standing order to be in the BATF is you have to hate the 2nd Amendment and gun owners but that's common knowledge.
The FBI has always had the pretense of being the premiere law enforcement agency in the nation. Now, I don't believe that even a little. Are there good agents? Yes. Are there agents good enough to stand up to a corrupt system? No. I do not believe that at all.
I honestly never believed those words I just typed would hurt as much as they do and I've stated in the past that there is no justice in the nation any longer for actual wrongdoing. Now I actually believe it. They hurt because I think this points to it being over for the USA.
So even with a Trump win, I don't believe the nation can be saved. Trump would have to immediately fire everyone but field agents, thousands of employees to purge the agency, create a system of oversight rivaling the most hardcore authoritarian regimes in history, and then not give them any teeth. More importantly, he'll have to break up DC. Send agencies across the country. Split them up and get them out of that swamp town. That ain't happening.
Sorry for the rant and the (what's the term for it?) concern trolling? It's honestly how I feel. I'll still vote, i'll still do what I can to get conservatives elected. I don't think it will help in the end.
Trump doesn't seem to have the stomach for what needs to happen. People need to disappear to the tune of hundreds of thousands to even just stop the deterioration
Luckily Trump is always 10 steps ahead and knew anyway, bitches!
These pieces of shit ruined the FBI...
On 4th of November:
Trump: "You're fired!"
Holy shit, it's only what, a week now? Good luck guys, I really hope Trump wins IN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY.
Why wait?
Because media would weaponize it against him and cost him votes from "moderates."
This is good news! If he sat on it, then Barr never knew about it.
I wonder in Barr knew about Rudy’s copy?
Barr should have known about it before the computer was ever dropped off for repairs!
I'm waiting for another "Q" drop to tell me how Wray (and Sessions) is a sleeper white-hat.. he'll wake up anytime now. /shhhh
Wray May have helped Trump out with this, Joe Biden is the worst candidate I have ever seen.
Endless fucking swamp. Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick fucking tock.
YOU'RE FIRED !!!