No, trying to have a conversation on the topic. Me repenting has no use since I dont have any regrets about sleeping with people outside marriage, it makes no sense to me that it should be forbidden if it’s between two consenting adults
Shhhh, you're being "witnessed" to! They think they're doing right by God by telling you that you're going to burn eternally for not telling God you're sorry for consensually getting your rocks off. "You're making excuses. Stop being a stupid fucking asshole and tell God you're sorry. God is love, you stupid motherfucker. Now accept it or burn forever in the lake of fire."
This is what turns non-believers off to Christianity/Catholicism. We preach forgiveness and love and then tell a gay guy in the congregation he has to abstain from homosexual relationships forever to be accepted by God and our church. (and he did, or he tried to, anyway, because he wanted to be accepted and loved so bad.) We tell you that God wants you to be happy while every Sunday using our pulpit to make everybody feel bad for watching R-rated movies, listening to "unannointed" music (including Christian music that isn't contemporary worship music) and GOD FORBID having a glass of wine at dinner (The "wine" they drank in the Bible was, supposedly, just grape juice. Right) while embezzling money from the church. Make sure we talk about tithing for 45 minutes a week, though. We embrace being "Slain" in the spirit, and the spiritual gifts that come with them, namely speaking in tongues, and then look down on people who aren't anointed enough to discover their "prayer language." We invite speakers in to our church who think they're so holy, they actually pray over a woman in a wheel chair and lift her out of it and order her to walk in front of the entire congregation and then watch her flop pathetically to the floor like a rag doll. We invite "prophets" who claim God tells them what will happen to us (I was told I'd become a great musician. There isn't a musical bone in my body) and then we later find out is a fraud (obviously,)
These are all actual things I've experienced at church. These are the kinds of things that encouraged the left to label us as hateful bigots. Now, I'm sure there are plenty of churches out there that AREN'T full of insane, judgmental people or run by corrupt greedy assholes. My point is, Christianity the faith is great, Christianity the lifestyle is kind of shit.
It's any wonder I'm not agnostic, but I'm still a Christian, I still hold the faith close, I just don't trust other Christians, and for shit like this. They'll go out of their way to tell you that you're living in sin and to just "repent" and that's that. They don't talk too much about repenting for being judgmental, or fake, or greedy (like my aforementioned pastor who owned a million dollar house and several motorcycles in addition to family vehicles while telling us a single drink of wine is sinful and evil and to make sure we're "giving enough to God" every Sunday.) They talk about how God will spit out the Luke-warm followers and warp that scripture to imply God's going to send you to hell for not being CHRISTIAN ENOUGH.
They tell you to rely on your church for fellowship and support and then blow you off with a simple "I'll keep you in my prayers" when you come to them in a time of emotional family crisis, while limiting their social interactions to a click of certain families within the church (who all speak tongues and, curiously, their tongue-speaking is always the exact same gibberish phrases over and over again.)
And let's not forget the super churches, which ALSO push tithing out the ass. Thankfully, you get the comfiest seat on the planet as you watch a giant movie theater screen streaming a remote pastor from some other location, and you can pick up an on-campus Starbucks before or after the sermon!
I hope you find God, but if you don't, I have a feeling God's going to love you no matter what, because He knows what's in your heart. God is love, and not the manufactured, backward-ass gotcha "love" they try to teach at some of these churches. "God loves you and he forgives you! But you have to constantly apologize to God for sins you don't even understand." Beg and grovel, that's what God wants. Christians expect you to jump for joy because you don't have to make burnt offerings anymore.
Wow, sorry, I had a lot to get off my chest. TLDR: You won't go to hell for having premarital, consensual sex. Even if you don't think there's anything wrong with it.
You’re making excuses and rationalizing repent and be forgiven.
No, trying to have a conversation on the topic. Me repenting has no use since I dont have any regrets about sleeping with people outside marriage, it makes no sense to me that it should be forbidden if it’s between two consenting adults
Shhhh, you're being "witnessed" to! They think they're doing right by God by telling you that you're going to burn eternally for not telling God you're sorry for consensually getting your rocks off. "You're making excuses. Stop being a stupid fucking asshole and tell God you're sorry. God is love, you stupid motherfucker. Now accept it or burn forever in the lake of fire."
This is what turns non-believers off to Christianity/Catholicism. We preach forgiveness and love and then tell a gay guy in the congregation he has to abstain from homosexual relationships forever to be accepted by God and our church. (and he did, or he tried to, anyway, because he wanted to be accepted and loved so bad.) We tell you that God wants you to be happy while every Sunday using our pulpit to make everybody feel bad for watching R-rated movies, listening to "unannointed" music (including Christian music that isn't contemporary worship music) and GOD FORBID having a glass of wine at dinner (The "wine" they drank in the Bible was, supposedly, just grape juice. Right) while embezzling money from the church. Make sure we talk about tithing for 45 minutes a week, though. We embrace being "Slain" in the spirit, and the spiritual gifts that come with them, namely speaking in tongues, and then look down on people who aren't anointed enough to discover their "prayer language." We invite speakers in to our church who think they're so holy, they actually pray over a woman in a wheel chair and lift her out of it and order her to walk in front of the entire congregation and then watch her flop pathetically to the floor like a rag doll. We invite "prophets" who claim God tells them what will happen to us (I was told I'd become a great musician. There isn't a musical bone in my body) and then we later find out is a fraud (obviously,)
These are all actual things I've experienced at church. These are the kinds of things that encouraged the left to label us as hateful bigots. Now, I'm sure there are plenty of churches out there that AREN'T full of insane, judgmental people or run by corrupt greedy assholes. My point is, Christianity the faith is great, Christianity the lifestyle is kind of shit.
It's any wonder I'm not agnostic, but I'm still a Christian, I still hold the faith close, I just don't trust other Christians, and for shit like this. They'll go out of their way to tell you that you're living in sin and to just "repent" and that's that. They don't talk too much about repenting for being judgmental, or fake, or greedy (like my aforementioned pastor who owned a million dollar house and several motorcycles in addition to family vehicles while telling us a single drink of wine is sinful and evil and to make sure we're "giving enough to God" every Sunday.) They talk about how God will spit out the Luke-warm followers and warp that scripture to imply God's going to send you to hell for not being CHRISTIAN ENOUGH.
They tell you to rely on your church for fellowship and support and then blow you off with a simple "I'll keep you in my prayers" when you come to them in a time of emotional family crisis, while limiting their social interactions to a click of certain families within the church (who all speak tongues and, curiously, their tongue-speaking is always the exact same gibberish phrases over and over again.)
And let's not forget the super churches, which ALSO push tithing out the ass. Thankfully, you get the comfiest seat on the planet as you watch a giant movie theater screen streaming a remote pastor from some other location, and you can pick up an on-campus Starbucks before or after the sermon!
I hope you find God, but if you don't, I have a feeling God's going to love you no matter what, because He knows what's in your heart. God is love, and not the manufactured, backward-ass gotcha "love" they try to teach at some of these churches. "God loves you and he forgives you! But you have to constantly apologize to God for sins you don't even understand." Beg and grovel, that's what God wants. Christians expect you to jump for joy because you don't have to make burnt offerings anymore.
Wow, sorry, I had a lot to get off my chest. TLDR: You won't go to hell for having premarital, consensual sex. Even if you don't think there's anything wrong with it.
TRUMP 2020!
nice thoughts, thanks alot!