Maybe a tagging system would help users find meme posts more easily with the search function, when the title isn't descriptive enough? (Like imgur or whatever)
I really liked her as a moderator overall though, I think that was the least biased reporter I've seen in any debates/interviews with Trump. The lady in the town hall interviewing Trump was an absolute disgrace in comparison.
The problem is less her, and more the debates in general. Every single question comes from a leftist slant, amounting to, “Here’s why you are wrong, what do you have to say?”
Doesn’t really solve the issue that callers could be pre-screened ahead of time to create the image of an overwhelmingly high number of negative callers for a specific candidate.
Like many problems with corporate media, there's not a good solution other than to burn corporate journalism to the ground and keep the pain on until they as a group regain honor and integrity and learn to act as information spreaders and not opinion manipulators. You can't fix it with rules when the problem is the dishonest nature of the people running the show.
The topics themselves were trash. Fucking climate change and I swear half the debate was about race. And "500 kids separated from their parents". Wtf. Even if completely true, that's less than a rounding error. Garbage shit. Nothing of importance talked about. And the 500 kids was a lie, unsurprisingly.
Might be an unpopular opinion, because I know she’s a well known Democrat, but I thought for the most part she was rather fair, maybe it was Trump getting out in front of it so she felt she needed to prove herself to be moderately fair.
No, its not unpopular. I thought she did a relatively good job too. President Trump even came over and thanked her for being fair after it was over. She did try to help Biden out a little bit, but didn't make it a circus like the other moderators have done.
She was much better, but more insidious in her moderating towards biden. She always gave him the last word. And she worked really hard to change the subject every time the hunter laptop subject or corruption came up. That was very...subversive... of her rather than blatant in your face bias
She was very subtle in her bias and attempts to help Biden. Every time President Trump was on a roll and smacking Biden around like a pinata, she would try to cut in, talk over POTUS, and try to change the topic.
I thought she was rather fair during the first half of the debate, other than asking left-leaning and anti-Trump questions. But when Biden's drugs started wearing off and he was getting pounded by Trump, she had to step in and try to save Biden.
In the end, her efforts didn't save Biden. He still got demolished by Trump. It would've been an even uglier beating had she not tried to help Biden though.
Fair compared to Chris Wallace, but not fair by objective standards. She cut Trump off 3 or more times when he brought up the laptop and when Trump said 'open the schools' she interjected with 'children can get covid too'.
Right, I guess “fair” relatively speaking considering what we knew about her background and compared to Wallace and the lady who moderated the VP debate.
That’s how big of a fuck up it was for him. She was there to softball things for Biden to make him look half decent and when he dropped this line she briefly forgot everything she was there to do.
Well, the Okie Dokie Solyndra 3000 model will work in total darkness, i was told by one of their company reps. It's new and improved, with extra taxpayer funding
No, no, no. That's silly. They cannot work in the dark.
No, the right answer is to fire up large diesel generators powering massive LED light banks to shine on the solar panels. THEN you get the panels working 24/7, and thus highly efficient. See? It's easy if you just put your mind to it.
Lord, that was so funny. She worked so hard the entire time to keep the conversation away from the fracking question, and right as the end was in sight, he ruined all her efforts.
Trump is so sharp and quick-witted to immediately latch on to Biden's fuckup and call attention to it for anyone that might have missed it at home. Like I kinda missed it too and didn't realize how big of a deal it was until I thought about the thousands of people working in the industry that'll use it as a reason to go vote. And it's not just the blue collar oil rig workers, if I work for any of the big gas companies in an office job, I'd be freaking out about how my 401k would crash with the stock price. I bet Trump's staff started making advertisements with that sound bite right away.
Certainly the case where the debate format helped Trump, in that it gave sleepy Joe enough rope to hang himself.
Or rather, for him to actually tell the truth.
He spends so much time denying the truth, toward the last 20 minutes he ran out of steam (or juice or whatever medications he was on was wearing thin) and the truth leaks out.
And Trump, as sharp as ever, catches on immediately and calls him out. That moment was so memorable.
It may have been THE moment that Biden lost the 2020 election.
"Because solar is working great in Australia so everyone should get their energy from solar no matter where on the globe they are! Also there aren't THAT many birds being killed by the panels!"
-- The left commenting on news out of South Australia
And it's totally affordable for families to heat and cool their homes, and all of our manufacturing definitely hasn't left Australia because of obscene energy prices!!
Yup. Folks without any knowledge of the real world. Guess where those expensive puffy down jackets and all of those synthetic clothes come from? Oil, baby!
The fact that so many staunch anti-border liberals didn’t know what a coyote was is so telling. If you’re going to take a strong stance for/against something, atleast do some damn research. But they don’t, that’s why we have the NPC meme and it’s so funny - because it’s true.
Allowing women to vote was a big mistake. They vote overwhelmingly liberal as far as I know. All women I know in person are far leftists. All of my conservative friends are male. I don't know a single conservative woman... Maybe there's one or two in church but that's about it.
It’s true. They fall for any mere presentation of Christianity by the left as well.
They know they can have someone
Like Obama day one scripted nice thing about Christians and play it on all News channels one night and just reshow that clip every now and then. Gives white Christian women all the proof they need that he’s a good guy and trustworthy.
That's because she's your wife and she has you there to explain things to her properly.
I guarantee you that if she were single her odds of being liberal would be much much higher. It's not that they're bad it's just that their brains think differently and they are particularly vulnerable to left-wing indoctrination.
Like I said on the whole women should just not be allowed to vote. Lot of smart and Brilliant ones out there, but the gender as a whole is just too easily influenced by Bad actors who make deceptive emotional arguments
Brother I don’t know, yet I see social media posts from guys who say they are in the business talking shit on Trump and professing their undying love for Biden. I do wonder if it’s some kind of propaganda. I’ve NEVER met someone who works O&G that was liberal.
It could just be virtue signalling to not get publicly cancelled but then secretly vote straight red on election day. NGL that's how I've been getting through college myself
Dude, fuck the haters and what people think. I relished every moment of hatred I received on campus. I loved every freak out, every insult and every nasty thing they tried to do to me.
Try it, it’s more fun than you think. I got off on it.
I'd bet most of the big companies like Exxon, Chevron, Shell, etc also handle their 401k match through giving shares of stock. I work for a publically traded company and that's how our bonuses are handled just get stock instead of cash. And those companies would all crash if Biden wins. So not just the fear of losing your job, but people's life savings and retirement funds could get trashed if Biden attacks the oil industry. Plenty of motivation to get out and vote for all those people.
How is west texas solidly red? El Paso TX-16 is deep blue and district 23 has never Trumper Will Herd who barely won and is now retiring and will most likely turn the district blue this election.
I don't think it will happen this year but with West Texas, South Texas and the cities all growing, the days of red texas are numbered.
"Everything HRC (Hillary Clinton) touches she kind of screws up with hubris".
General Colin Powell Leaked emails. Ya know the guy that confirmed their were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Seems to be a running theme that Democrats will screw everything up.
So mostly what you are mentioning doesn't happen much anymore for a few simple reasons; it's like saying a 1970's diesel car pumping out black soot is a diesel car today.
The geology is different in different areas, and the technology to seal around the bore is better. Basically, nowdays, the groundwater aquifer layers are kept sealed (are usually shallower too) from the (usually much lower) shale layers. With horizontal drilling advances, allows for very accurate drilling through the horizontal beds of shale (after the vertical down pipe); by keeping the bits horizontal through the shale, this keeps all the desired hydrocarbons from leaving the layers above/below it.
Some places have more complex geology (whereas say the Permian Basin is all pretty uniform). But technology has advanced very well.
Even in places with a freshwater problem, the cleanup to keep the water table clean with water injection wells just like for a gas station leak or tank farm leak; can keep things good. No one wants to pollute, it's a waste of the environment, drilling costs, and wasted product which isn't going to market or back down the borehole.
Also the number of vertical wells are fewer. So for instance the distance horizontal which can be drilled has increased and increased, up to 2.5 miles from the wellhead in all directions as of 2 years ago, so a well could be every 5 miles, with multiple underground horizontal bores.
How long will fracking last?
[Futuristic Redpill] Republican version of "fossil fuels" makes them renewable fuels by completing the loop at the wellheads. Or as in the olden times they were called liquid minerals. Unlike history, with gysers of oil/gas blowing from dome formations, reducing pressure, heat, and causing thickening/siezing;
With Fracking, and by maintaining down-bore pressure and temperature, and with some more advanced processing at the wellhead, means the fractions desired can be cleanly stripped and sent to market, while the rest can be cleaned (like sulfur removed) and then reinjected downbore. The natural geologic formation, acts like a refinery stack does, and like a refinery it has to have the right feedstock and temperature/pressure maintained.
So hydro-carbons required hydrogen and carbon, of which a significant amount already exists in the geologic formation. But as some is removed, some can be added back to hydro-crack in situ. This completes the hydro-carbon cycle, thus no need to regulate "CO2" or all the other leftie nonsense.
What are legit cons to fracking and how would one argue in defense of or in spite of those cons?
Since you asked, I got you fren:
Most bad reasons are from the past, which aren't done anymore-- from or because of it being done poorly particularly in the early years. Most frackers today, have LOTS of experience, excellent equipment, great data (including geologic data, drilling equipment data, drilled mud data, and data from other wells), better tools and materials including drilling mud. In the early days with tons of money flooding in, there sometimes was a push just to put wells in the ground and get stuff out (for investment, cashflow, or legal rights reasons); but those "shortsighted/careless" days are a many years back, and wont be back.
Using "reinjection" generally helps, but it's not yet done everywhere. This reinjection includes natgas (wet; or dried-removing the liquid fractions like Propane), and other things including water. Reinjecting all the things which instead of being: flared, sold to market, or sent for cleaning, or concentrated-out like sulfur(removing it out of the fuel-supply chain).
Some "best practices" like using reinjection, rather than flaring(burning excess natgas/methane at the wellhead). In many ways this is because people like in the Biden video, oppose pipelines to get the natgas to market (like NY Gov is blocking nat gas pipelines across NY to supply all of New England). More major pipelines need to be built! Even after these years of Trump it's MUCH better, but there is still much red-tape stopping pipelines--the most economical, safe, and environmentally friendly form of transportation.
The US alone wastes a crapload of energy just to flaring.
If flare gas isn't cleaned (before or after combustion), it can put more crap into the air, which isn't good. By and large, we could and should solve our Flare gas issues in a year if a major effort was made to get the pipelines and processing plants built, &/or to put more reinjection into the formations.
So completing the loop at the wellhead on product coming out is important. This lets the parts desired to move along the supply-chain, the rest is cleaned (eg desulfurization) and reinjected. Some wells use CO2 (incl frozen chips) as part of the fracking mud, and in the future better CO2 reinjection will accompany the wellhead.
Rapid advances happen every month for better technology to separate out the fractions desired at the wellhead or at a collection/processing plant.
A few places have very complex geology (like lots of folds, cracks, buckles, faults, etc.) and these places take extra care and might not be uniform enough to make worth while with low prices.
Some places have weak geology, and so fracking isn't suited well for these locations without other measures which generally aren't cost effective.
If only extraction is done, it can cause some issues like any extraction with land subsidence, and decreases in future oil/gas production. As it's physically reducing the volume underground. (insert pictures of Tokyo delta, Venice Bay, Bangladesh Delta, Mexico City, etc. where the ground has lowered "muh sea level rise" from (industrial) water wells extracting groundwater from 1960+ before it was stopped in many locations to nearly stop the sinking rate.)
Greenfield development (brand new) is often cleaner and less disruptive than existing operations; by simple things like fewer roads and fewer wellhead/vertical wells. The costs of re-doing an existing well or field of wells, might not make capital sense, rather than more Greenfield development.
Also many complicated answers about the money/Capital side of the industry; in how the industry is structured, cashflow, debt, prices, etc. Overall, there is still a great imbalance in the US Energy market segments, even with restrictions on exporting largely removed. Like the cost of (dry) natgas should be like $1/million BTU; but there's too much pipeline contraints; too much structured debt including by local utilities with guaranteed returns by regulation; too much legacy costs in other energy industries; and many other things including The FED's ZERP policies, I could go on and on for much storytime :)
Personally i'd rather have the 70's diesel pumping out black soot, the "emissions equipment" on modern diesels really kills their long term reliability.
Ya most of the current emission equipment is obsolete crap.
Diesel + Propane is much better!
Even Cummins FINALLY got dragged (with $6 million from the Propane industry) to finally build a propane engine 375 hp and 880 lb.-ft. of torque. (in road real world testing and bench-testing atm). But it's passing all their design standards including longevity.
It sounds like amazing technology, but I need some clarification of what you're talking about at the end there. I mean, no matter what, burning fuel releases CO2. And cracking- you're saying they're turning like C6 gas into more like C3 propane type gas? I thought franking wells didn't have oil?
So eventually, [future tech on a distributed scale] the similar processes which occur within a refinery stack, can occur within the downbore of the fracked shale, so long as the right heat/pressure and ratios can be maintained. So just like in an oil refinery, it stops working if it gets cold, or the pressures go out of range, etc. By keeping the down hole temp and pressure in the right zone, then the stuff removed can be separated either at the wellhead or at a processing plant (midstream) nearby; and the undersired fractions not sent to market or further processing (downstream); will be sent back down and reinjected into the formation (after desulfurization and removal of any other bad stuff).
So currently most wells produce what is the range of products based on what's in the geology currently. i.e. a wet well has larger amounts of liquid fractions of natural gas (eg propane), where a dry well doesn't have much liquid fractions it's mostly methane. The geology formation can vary from coal seams, to tight shale. There are gas wells and oil wells which are fracked, produce some variety of ratios of fractions of oil/gas. (too complex to put the data here, but they come in all kinds and varieties).
So in the future, the undesired fractions [based on market conditions, location, etc.] like say pure methane or bunker oil, can be reinjected, while stripping off the desired fractions like propane, natural gasoline, etc. The fractions desired can have some further processing(midstream or downstream), or go straight to market. Overall the costs and profits make sense, as wellhead processing technology advances.
Yes so with complete combustion, Hydrocarbons produce ideally just H20 & CO2.
To balance out the Hydrogen and Carbon ratios downwell desired to produce, more Hydrogen (often in the form of water) and Carbon (often in the form of CO2) can be put downbore, thus completing the Hydro-Carbon Cycle at the well head; and turning "fossil fuels" into "renewable energy". Some of the O2 can be stripped at the wellhead before sending the other parts downbore.
[Redpilled Climate Change Warning for any TDS sufferers] The net BTU energy required can come from any other sources, it's not really the constraint (muh global warming :) has spare BTUs to put downbore, and besides we don't want to cool the earth's core; bc that's the real climate disaster if we lose our magnetic field. Increased insulation of greenhouse warming is the best way, by keeping in our radiant heat the earth emits. But now even the BTUs can be recycled by being put downbore to the geologic formation acting like a mini-refinery stack.
For people who care about this issue, they are already informed and already voting.
The "Joe/Kamala/Dems" are going to ban/seize/cease the fossil fuel industry including the American Oil & Gas industries (and utilities btw) is NEWS to many whom don't understand the commies. Including many voters whom buy gasoline or winter heating.
Most of the people that yell “SCIENCE” or go out of their way to tell you that they “BELIEVE IN SCIENCE” are actually the dumbest and least technologically capable morons that I know. Not one of them could change a lawn mower spark plug let alone describe the intimate workings of the power grid.
Peak load plants are quick reacting power plants that “cover” instantaneous increases in load traditionally. More demand on the system, peaker plants throttle up to cover the load. With renewable energies peak load plants not only have to cover the demand side, but now they have to cover the supply side as well. When the wind stops blowing, the sun goes behind a cloud, when it’s super hot at sunset and AC demand rises while solar generation falls off. Peak load plants step in to fill the gap.
The only scalable, reliable, technology that can be deployed in all geographies are combustion turbines that run primarily on natural gas and to a much lesser extent oil. No matter how much these commies want to eliminate fossil fuels, there is no way to run a renewable energy dependent power grid without them. Well there is nuclear….
If someone says "believe in science" what they really mean is "I'm a brainwashed leftist cultist and have replaced religion with an unhealthy worship of what the TV says science is"
He's on tape guaranteeing, promising, to get rid of and phase out oil. Has he ever made such guarantees he won't make you lose your job? NOT EVEN ONCE.
Remember, whatever they admit to is much less than what the actual plan is. Not just oil, but all fossil fuels. Not just raise taxes, but massive tax hikes. Not just VP level corruption, but Presidential levels of corruption!
I wonder if abolishing our fuel industries will make his overseas energy holding that much more valuable?
even if you had magical fusion energy available right now and could instantly spin up enough plants to power the country without oil / coal AND you had enough batteries to power all the electric cars you'd have to make it would STILL be fucking retarded. those jobs and communities cant just learn completely different trades over night and the jobs will be nowhere near the communities. there wouldnt be enough jobs in those trades in any event. and the air force and the trucking industry and shipping will run on oil / jet fuel for a long fucking time. no battery is going to replace a diesel engine in a tractor in the next 50 years. even if you could make the batteries have 10x energy dense that only amounts to 15 gallons of diesel fuel. thats about 15 acres of plowing before it needs 10 hours to recharge. jesus christ monkey balls.
The leftists just don't realize that their electric car they use to run 5-10 miles to the store and back and recharge overnight is just a fraction if the uses of fossil fuel. They don't ever consider how the food gets to the stores, supplies to the hardware store, etc.
You need something that can run for long periods of time and be replenished quickly. Right now batteries aren't even close to replacing diesel, gas or LP/natural gas for transportation or emergency backup. Sorry, hospital is closed, lost power and it was cloudy so the sun couldn't recharge the batteries.
Swing states are being pushed harder now because they need more people to vote than there can be possible mail in ballots in the event they become contested. State population v # ballots may come into question.
My personal theory is the election will be suspended pending allegations. I could be wrong so I’m still gonna play my role and vote.
I mean you have to understand socialists to know why he said that.
Do you think Stalin cared about the MILLIONS of people out in the countryside staving to death as he pushed his early socialist programs in the 1920s-30s?
Biden said that because in a socialist America he only has to worry about them for a few months. After that, they will start to die off or be in such poverty that they have smaller families. Then in a few decades of socialist rule, there won't be any of them left.
Why worry about people that won't be around.
To fight socialism you have to understand socialism.
Which means he'd plunge WV back into poverty and suicide by closing our iron and coal mines, just like he and Obama did for 8 years. West Virginia in 2016 went 68% for Trump. This time around, we'd better vote 100% for Trump!
WA resident here. I love seeing all the Bernie/Biden homes with solar pannels on them. In western WA it rains, is cloudy, and snows off and on from Sept. to May. I know a homesteader who has a large solar panel and it's effectively useless for 75% of the year. At best it keeps batteries from dying something is left on accidentally.
Solar is a great option in the Southwest and solar farms would be amazing alternatives. But it's not a holistic solution. If they really want emission free that doesn't cost more to maintain and create than the energy it provides (cough, wind energy) then they need to incorporate hydroelectric, solar, and nuclear. There's no power panacea unless we discover cold fusion.
Did you notice during the Democrat debates that it seemed like Biden and Kamala just invented the end of fossil fuels right there on the dais. Obviously no one thought about this at all.
Yeah it isn't like most of the things you have in your house wasn't made of oil anyways. Better use that vegan butter as a substitute instead to make it more environmentally friendly :).
Rust Belt is the new Bible Belt for conservative candidates. A generational shift because Dems are too arrogant to think they'll ever lose votes in working class states.
This is disturbing. Perhaps these are not election promises anymore. Perhaps this is supposed to mean: Joe WILL be president, and that's what he WILL do after his enabling statute act of 2021.
I have just moved into a tiny house that I am making self sufficient. I am an aerospace engineer with a minor in environmental sciences.
I can very much Say that the left is incredibly anti science when it comes to renewable energy. More than any other source of energy we need the natural gas supplied by the United States in order to have a clean environment while supplying the energy needs of the world.
Giving up energy independence raises prices which means as supply goes down prices globally go up which gives power back to Russia, Iran, Saudis, etc .... us keeping prices low really dents their oil revenue.
FACT CHECK: False. Biden doesn't want to abolish the oil industry, his actual plan is to do everything in his power to make it stop existing, as quickly as possible. Totally different.
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT???!?
I laughed and laughed when she deadpanned asked that to him. Lol
She forgot she was a moderator for a second and it was hilarious.
“STFU Joe!”
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tard wrangler colorized 2020
Because she realized her boy just stepped on a rake on nation-wide television.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WZLJpMOxS4
Knew immediately Ol' Joe might end up nuking her broadcasting career right there and then. Panicked, stepped out of character.
The meme on TD with her eyes all sanpaku was a treasure.
Link? I missed that amidst all the Hunter cock memes.
Maybe a tagging system would help users find meme posts more easily with the search function, when the title isn't descriptive enough? (Like imgur or whatever)
It may have been this image. https://thedonald.win/p/11PVb6DFQL/why-would-you-do-that-and-it-was/c/
Or it could have been this one: https://thedonald.win/p/11PVfllCIG/listen-to-her-tone-kristen-welke/c/
I really liked her as a moderator overall though, I think that was the least biased reporter I've seen in any debates/interviews with Trump. The lady in the town hall interviewing Trump was an absolute disgrace in comparison.
The problem is less her, and more the debates in general. Every single question comes from a leftist slant, amounting to, “Here’s why you are wrong, what do you have to say?”
They should do tele-townhalls instead. Let voters call in and ask the questions.
Doesn’t really solve the issue that callers could be pre-screened ahead of time to create the image of an overwhelmingly high number of negative callers for a specific candidate.
Good point.
Like many problems with corporate media, there's not a good solution other than to burn corporate journalism to the ground and keep the pain on until they as a group regain honor and integrity and learn to act as information spreaders and not opinion manipulators. You can't fix it with rules when the problem is the dishonest nature of the people running the show.
The topics themselves were trash. Fucking climate change and I swear half the debate was about race. And "500 kids separated from their parents". Wtf. Even if completely true, that's less than a rounding error. Garbage shit. Nothing of importance talked about. And the 500 kids was a lie, unsurprisingly.
Yeah, she wasn’t too bad all things considered. I think the debate format helped a lot too. GEOTUS knocked it out of the park.
Might be an unpopular opinion, because I know she’s a well known Democrat, but I thought for the most part she was rather fair, maybe it was Trump getting out in front of it so she felt she needed to prove herself to be moderately fair.
No, its not unpopular. I thought she did a relatively good job too. President Trump even came over and thanked her for being fair after it was over. She did try to help Biden out a little bit, but didn't make it a circus like the other moderators have done.
She was much better, but more insidious in her moderating towards biden. She always gave him the last word. And she worked really hard to change the subject every time the hunter laptop subject or corruption came up. That was very...subversive... of her rather than blatant in your face bias
She was very subtle in her bias and attempts to help Biden. Every time President Trump was on a roll and smacking Biden around like a pinata, she would try to cut in, talk over POTUS, and try to change the topic.
I thought she was rather fair during the first half of the debate, other than asking left-leaning and anti-Trump questions. But when Biden's drugs started wearing off and he was getting pounded by Trump, she had to step in and try to save Biden.
In the end, her efforts didn't save Biden. He still got demolished by Trump. It would've been an even uglier beating had she not tried to help Biden though.
Fair compared to Chris Wallace, but not fair by objective standards. She cut Trump off 3 or more times when he brought up the laptop and when Trump said 'open the schools' she interjected with 'children can get covid too'.
Right, I guess “fair” relatively speaking considering what we knew about her background and compared to Wallace and the lady who moderated the VP debate.
That’s how big of a fuck up it was for him. She was there to softball things for Biden to make him look half decent and when he dropped this line she briefly forgot everything she was there to do.
Even she couldn't believe he said that aloud.
#WWYDT
So, how well do solar panels work under a foot of snow? Or even six inches?
Just as good as using helicopters to thaw wind turbines. If only the helicopter did a quick tilt when the blades spun back up.
Well, the Okie Dokie Solyndra 3000 model will work in total darkness, i was told by one of their company reps. It's new and improved, with extra taxpayer funding
No, no, no. That's silly. They cannot work in the dark.
No, the right answer is to fire up large diesel generators powering massive LED light banks to shine on the solar panels. THEN you get the panels working 24/7, and thus highly efficient. See? It's easy if you just put your mind to it.
Good thing were in for a dark winter.
Oh, he didn't tell you? He's making everyone move to places where it doesn't snow or rain.
How about just a cloudy day? :))
Lord, that was so funny. She worked so hard the entire time to keep the conversation away from the fracking question, and right as the end was in sight, he ruined all her efforts.
Trump is so sharp and quick-witted to immediately latch on to Biden's fuckup and call attention to it for anyone that might have missed it at home. Like I kinda missed it too and didn't realize how big of a deal it was until I thought about the thousands of people working in the industry that'll use it as a reason to go vote. And it's not just the blue collar oil rig workers, if I work for any of the big gas companies in an office job, I'd be freaking out about how my 401k would crash with the stock price. I bet Trump's staff started making advertisements with that sound bite right away.
Certainly the case where the debate format helped Trump, in that it gave sleepy Joe enough rope to hang himself.
Or rather, for him to actually tell the truth.
He spends so much time denying the truth, toward the last 20 minutes he ran out of steam (or juice or whatever medications he was on was wearing thin) and the truth leaks out.
And Trump, as sharp as ever, catches on immediately and calls him out. That moment was so memorable.
It may have been THE moment that Biden lost the 2020 election.
Apparently he wanted to start his retirement 9 days early.
"Because solar is working great in Australia so everyone should get their energy from solar no matter where on the globe they are! Also there aren't THAT many birds being killed by the panels!"
-- The left commenting on news out of South Australia
And it's totally affordable for families to heat and cool their homes, and all of our manufacturing definitely hasn't left Australia because of obscene energy prices!!
Joe might as well just admit he's going to have everyone put in gulags
I'm pretty sure this policy is popular among his base. Climate alarmist soy latte cucks.
Yup. Folks without any knowledge of the real world. Guess where those expensive puffy down jackets and all of those synthetic clothes come from? Oil, baby!
The fact that so many staunch anti-border liberals didn’t know what a coyote was is so telling. If you’re going to take a strong stance for/against something, atleast do some damn research. But they don’t, that’s why we have the NPC meme and it’s so funny - because it’s true.
Marxists are gunna marxist = gulags.
Marxists are gunna marxist and sieze a country's oil industry; which ceases the oil industry.
Marxist are gunna marxist and sieze or cut off utilities.
Marxists are gunna marxist and steal or tax whatever they want.
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I'm just sayin, my V8 is voting for Trump.
V8 CREW GO VVVRRRROOOOOMMMM!
<laughs in LS>
LAUGHS IN BIG BLOCK
My powerstrokes laugh as well. See? Trump can even bring Chevy and Ford together 😆
Can my v6's join the party! Do miss the sound of a v8, price of the older trucks has gone stupid with all those damn car shows the last decade.
If it votes for Trump, I don't care if it has one cylinder, lol.
Based Briggs and Stratton
Pfft. Based 2cycle is the way to go. More power per pound and it pollutes more than an SUV! Eat it Greta!
If Gretta could smell my rowdy decatted LS, she'd explode, lmao.
Yessir! Even got the SO voting for him this time around.
Bad ass. I need to work on finding one of those for myself.
My Chinese predator on my homemade minibike even votes Trump 🤷🏻♂️
Cucks: "You can't just keep guzzling oil and gas like that!"
Pede: "Ha ha, V8 go 'brrrrrrrrrrr'"
<removed catalytic converters>
get on my level!
Some people are stupid enough to do it
I know a white woman who will certainly do it. Because Trump's a big moron!
But on the other hand she's annoyed because people bad mouth fracking.
Seriously, women's suffrage was a mistake. That's the lesson of this election. They are the reason why all of this propaganda is effective.
Allowing women to vote was a big mistake. They vote overwhelmingly liberal as far as I know. All women I know in person are far leftists. All of my conservative friends are male. I don't know a single conservative woman... Maybe there's one or two in church but that's about it.
Even the conservative ones in church still usually fall for every novel left-wing argument that's presented to them. It's pathetic.
It’s true. They fall for any mere presentation of Christianity by the left as well.
They know they can have someone Like Obama day one scripted nice thing about Christians and play it on all News channels one night and just reshow that clip every now and then. Gives white Christian women all the proof they need that he’s a good guy and trustworthy.
That's because she's your wife and she has you there to explain things to her properly.
I guarantee you that if she were single her odds of being liberal would be much much higher. It's not that they're bad it's just that their brains think differently and they are particularly vulnerable to left-wing indoctrination.
Like I said on the whole women should just not be allowed to vote. Lot of smart and Brilliant ones out there, but the gender as a whole is just too easily influenced by Bad actors who make deceptive emotional arguments
Ironically, I'm constantly reading about black women that are pro Trump lol Candace Owens ftw!!
Unfortunately half of us already have. Need Trump 2nd term to bring it back, BIGLY.
smh. how dumb can you be to vote for biden if you're in texas oil?
Brother I don’t know, yet I see social media posts from guys who say they are in the business talking shit on Trump and professing their undying love for Biden. I do wonder if it’s some kind of propaganda. I’ve NEVER met someone who works O&G that was liberal.
It could just be virtue signalling to not get publicly cancelled but then secretly vote straight red on election day. NGL that's how I've been getting through college myself
Why virtue signal when you can just stay quiet?
Not that I go retard and post Biden stuff, but if someone insists getting political I go "mhm orange man bad " or something along those lines
Dude, fuck the haters and what people think. I relished every moment of hatred I received on campus. I loved every freak out, every insult and every nasty thing they tried to do to me.
Try it, it’s more fun than you think. I got off on it.
I'd bet most of the big companies like Exxon, Chevron, Shell, etc also handle their 401k match through giving shares of stock. I work for a publically traded company and that's how our bonuses are handled just get stock instead of cash. And those companies would all crash if Biden wins. So not just the fear of losing your job, but people's life savings and retirement funds could get trashed if Biden attacks the oil industry. Plenty of motivation to get out and vote for all those people.
Focus positive energy on gettiing more voters for the Republicans all the way downballot. Recruit, warm Train with coats, cup of covfefe, 2 scoops!
Focus hostile energy on the Democracy Party of radicals.
I honestly don't know anyone out here who supports Biden. But this is west Texas so its already solidly red.
How is west texas solidly red? El Paso TX-16 is deep blue and district 23 has never Trumper Will Herd who barely won and is now retiring and will most likely turn the district blue this election.
I don't think it will happen this year but with West Texas, South Texas and the cities all growing, the days of red texas are numbered.
Bean dips need to be deported.
Democrats need people struggling and in fear or else they would become more conservative.
PEOPLE ARE SITTING AROUND KITCHEN TABLES EVERYWHERE
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."
~B. Hussein O.
"Everything HRC (Hillary Clinton) touches she kind of screws up with hubris".
General Colin Powell Leaked emails. Ya know the guy that confirmed their were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Seems to be a running theme that Democrats will screw everything up.
My states entire economy is tied to oil and gas directly or indirectly. Fuck you, old man Joe!
How long will fracking last? It destroys the ground water for drinking.
So mostly what you are mentioning doesn't happen much anymore for a few simple reasons; it's like saying a 1970's diesel car pumping out black soot is a diesel car today.
The geology is different in different areas, and the technology to seal around the bore is better. Basically, nowdays, the groundwater aquifer layers are kept sealed (are usually shallower too) from the (usually much lower) shale layers. With horizontal drilling advances, allows for very accurate drilling through the horizontal beds of shale (after the vertical down pipe); by keeping the bits horizontal through the shale, this keeps all the desired hydrocarbons from leaving the layers above/below it.
Some places have more complex geology (whereas say the Permian Basin is all pretty uniform). But technology has advanced very well.
Even in places with a freshwater problem, the cleanup to keep the water table clean with water injection wells just like for a gas station leak or tank farm leak; can keep things good. No one wants to pollute, it's a waste of the environment, drilling costs, and wasted product which isn't going to market or back down the borehole.
Also the number of vertical wells are fewer. So for instance the distance horizontal which can be drilled has increased and increased, up to 2.5 miles from the wellhead in all directions as of 2 years ago, so a well could be every 5 miles, with multiple underground horizontal bores.
[Futuristic Redpill] Republican version of "fossil fuels" makes them renewable fuels by completing the loop at the wellheads. Or as in the olden times they were called liquid minerals. Unlike history, with gysers of oil/gas blowing from dome formations, reducing pressure, heat, and causing thickening/siezing;
With Fracking, and by maintaining down-bore pressure and temperature, and with some more advanced processing at the wellhead, means the fractions desired can be cleanly stripped and sent to market, while the rest can be cleaned (like sulfur removed) and then reinjected downbore. The natural geologic formation, acts like a refinery stack does, and like a refinery it has to have the right feedstock and temperature/pressure maintained.
So hydro-carbons required hydrogen and carbon, of which a significant amount already exists in the geologic formation. But as some is removed, some can be added back to hydro-crack in situ. This completes the hydro-carbon cycle, thus no need to regulate "CO2" or all the other leftie nonsense.
bruh... TIL
What are legit cons to fracking and how would one argue in defense of or in spite of those cons?
Since you asked, I got you fren:
Most bad reasons are from the past, which aren't done anymore-- from or because of it being done poorly particularly in the early years. Most frackers today, have LOTS of experience, excellent equipment, great data (including geologic data, drilling equipment data, drilled mud data, and data from other wells), better tools and materials including drilling mud. In the early days with tons of money flooding in, there sometimes was a push just to put wells in the ground and get stuff out (for investment, cashflow, or legal rights reasons); but those "shortsighted/careless" days are a many years back, and wont be back.
Using "reinjection" generally helps, but it's not yet done everywhere. This reinjection includes natgas (wet; or dried-removing the liquid fractions like Propane), and other things including water. Reinjecting all the things which instead of being: flared, sold to market, or sent for cleaning, or concentrated-out like sulfur(removing it out of the fuel-supply chain).
Some "best practices" like using reinjection, rather than flaring(burning excess natgas/methane at the wellhead). In many ways this is because people like in the Biden video, oppose pipelines to get the natgas to market (like NY Gov is blocking nat gas pipelines across NY to supply all of New England). More major pipelines need to be built! Even after these years of Trump it's MUCH better, but there is still much red-tape stopping pipelines--the most economical, safe, and environmentally friendly form of transportation.
The US alone wastes a crapload of energy just to flaring.
If flare gas isn't cleaned (before or after combustion), it can put more crap into the air, which isn't good. By and large, we could and should solve our Flare gas issues in a year if a major effort was made to get the pipelines and processing plants built, &/or to put more reinjection into the formations.
So completing the loop at the wellhead on product coming out is important. This lets the parts desired to move along the supply-chain, the rest is cleaned (eg desulfurization) and reinjected. Some wells use CO2 (incl frozen chips) as part of the fracking mud, and in the future better CO2 reinjection will accompany the wellhead.
Rapid advances happen every month for better technology to separate out the fractions desired at the wellhead or at a collection/processing plant.
A few places have very complex geology (like lots of folds, cracks, buckles, faults, etc.) and these places take extra care and might not be uniform enough to make worth while with low prices.
Some places have weak geology, and so fracking isn't suited well for these locations without other measures which generally aren't cost effective.
If only extraction is done, it can cause some issues like any extraction with land subsidence, and decreases in future oil/gas production. As it's physically reducing the volume underground. (insert pictures of Tokyo delta, Venice Bay, Bangladesh Delta, Mexico City, etc. where the ground has lowered "muh sea level rise" from (industrial) water wells extracting groundwater from 1960+ before it was stopped in many locations to nearly stop the sinking rate.)
Greenfield development (brand new) is often cleaner and less disruptive than existing operations; by simple things like fewer roads and fewer wellhead/vertical wells. The costs of re-doing an existing well or field of wells, might not make capital sense, rather than more Greenfield development.
Also many complicated answers about the money/Capital side of the industry; in how the industry is structured, cashflow, debt, prices, etc. Overall, there is still a great imbalance in the US Energy market segments, even with restrictions on exporting largely removed. Like the cost of (dry) natgas should be like $1/million BTU; but there's too much pipeline contraints; too much structured debt including by local utilities with guaranteed returns by regulation; too much legacy costs in other energy industries; and many other things including The FED's ZERP policies, I could go on and on for much storytime :)
I very much appreciate your replies in this thread. Learned something that I've been curious about for a long time.
Personally i'd rather have the 70's diesel pumping out black soot, the "emissions equipment" on modern diesels really kills their long term reliability.
Ya most of the current emission equipment is obsolete crap.
Diesel + Propane is much better!
Even Cummins FINALLY got dragged (with $6 million from the Propane industry) to finally build a propane engine 375 hp and 880 lb.-ft. of torque. (in road real world testing and bench-testing atm). But it's passing all their design standards including longevity.
https://www.lpgasmagazine.com/cummins-propane-engine-project-reaches-demonstration-stage/
https://resources.propane.com/cummins-inc-webinar-may-2020
Webinar worth watching if anyone is interested the topic.
Pure Propane = Sweet, clean, super-reliable, and cheaper engine to build, run, and maintain.
It sounds like amazing technology, but I need some clarification of what you're talking about at the end there. I mean, no matter what, burning fuel releases CO2. And cracking- you're saying they're turning like C6 gas into more like C3 propane type gas? I thought franking wells didn't have oil?
More elaboration , please
So eventually, [future tech on a distributed scale] the similar processes which occur within a refinery stack, can occur within the downbore of the fracked shale, so long as the right heat/pressure and ratios can be maintained. So just like in an oil refinery, it stops working if it gets cold, or the pressures go out of range, etc. By keeping the down hole temp and pressure in the right zone, then the stuff removed can be separated either at the wellhead or at a processing plant (midstream) nearby; and the undersired fractions not sent to market or further processing (downstream); will be sent back down and reinjected into the formation (after desulfurization and removal of any other bad stuff).
So currently most wells produce what is the range of products based on what's in the geology currently. i.e. a wet well has larger amounts of liquid fractions of natural gas (eg propane), where a dry well doesn't have much liquid fractions it's mostly methane. The geology formation can vary from coal seams, to tight shale. There are gas wells and oil wells which are fracked, produce some variety of ratios of fractions of oil/gas. (too complex to put the data here, but they come in all kinds and varieties).
So in the future, the undesired fractions [based on market conditions, location, etc.] like say pure methane or bunker oil, can be reinjected, while stripping off the desired fractions like propane, natural gasoline, etc. The fractions desired can have some further processing(midstream or downstream), or go straight to market. Overall the costs and profits make sense, as wellhead processing technology advances.
Yes so with complete combustion, Hydrocarbons produce ideally just H20 & CO2.
To balance out the Hydrogen and Carbon ratios downwell desired to produce, more Hydrogen (often in the form of water) and Carbon (often in the form of CO2) can be put downbore, thus completing the Hydro-Carbon Cycle at the well head; and turning "fossil fuels" into "renewable energy". Some of the O2 can be stripped at the wellhead before sending the other parts downbore.
[Redpilled Climate Change Warning for any TDS sufferers] The net BTU energy required can come from any other sources, it's not really the constraint (muh global warming :) has spare BTUs to put downbore, and besides we don't want to cool the earth's core; bc that's the real climate disaster if we lose our magnetic field. Increased insulation of greenhouse warming is the best way, by keeping in our radiant heat the earth emits. But now even the BTUs can be recycled by being put downbore to the geologic formation acting like a mini-refinery stack.
He needs to hammer this hard. I don't know how many people truly understand the significance of his statement
Or the one he made about making 11 million illegal aliens into citizens? I really don’t understand why that isn’t being stated more.
For people who care about this issue, they are already informed and already voting.
The "Joe/Kamala/Dems" are going to ban/seize/cease the fossil fuel industry including the American Oil & Gas industries (and utilities btw) is NEWS to many whom don't understand the commies. Including many voters whom buy gasoline or winter heating.
it's not just that, it's the half-assed way he goes about it-
it's the fact that he doesn't truly believe in it himself, just knows that if he says it it'll get him elected.
Who built the plastic, Joe?
Hashtag methyl methacrylate matters
What's your sippy cup made out of, Joe?
Trump is kicking ass!
Most of the people that yell “SCIENCE” or go out of their way to tell you that they “BELIEVE IN SCIENCE” are actually the dumbest and least technologically capable morons that I know. Not one of them could change a lawn mower spark plug let alone describe the intimate workings of the power grid.
Peak load plants are quick reacting power plants that “cover” instantaneous increases in load traditionally. More demand on the system, peaker plants throttle up to cover the load. With renewable energies peak load plants not only have to cover the demand side, but now they have to cover the supply side as well. When the wind stops blowing, the sun goes behind a cloud, when it’s super hot at sunset and AC demand rises while solar generation falls off. Peak load plants step in to fill the gap.
The only scalable, reliable, technology that can be deployed in all geographies are combustion turbines that run primarily on natural gas and to a much lesser extent oil. No matter how much these commies want to eliminate fossil fuels, there is no way to run a renewable energy dependent power grid without them. Well there is nuclear….
If someone says "believe in science" what they really mean is "I'm a brainwashed leftist cultist and have replaced religion with an unhealthy worship of what the TV says science is"
No energy independence! This is the stupidest thing I think I've ever heard a politician campaign on. Pure bullshit.
Joe can frack off.
He's on tape guaranteeing, promising, to get rid of and phase out oil. Has he ever made such guarantees he won't make you lose your job? NOT EVEN ONCE.
FRACK OFF JOEPEDO
What the frack Joe!?
Remember, whatever they admit to is much less than what the actual plan is. Not just oil, but all fossil fuels. Not just raise taxes, but massive tax hikes. Not just VP level corruption, but Presidential levels of corruption!
I wonder if abolishing our fuel industries will make his overseas energy holding that much more valuable?
even if you had magical fusion energy available right now and could instantly spin up enough plants to power the country without oil / coal AND you had enough batteries to power all the electric cars you'd have to make it would STILL be fucking retarded. those jobs and communities cant just learn completely different trades over night and the jobs will be nowhere near the communities. there wouldnt be enough jobs in those trades in any event. and the air force and the trucking industry and shipping will run on oil / jet fuel for a long fucking time. no battery is going to replace a diesel engine in a tractor in the next 50 years. even if you could make the batteries have 10x energy dense that only amounts to 15 gallons of diesel fuel. thats about 15 acres of plowing before it needs 10 hours to recharge. jesus christ monkey balls.
The leftists just don't realize that their electric car they use to run 5-10 miles to the store and back and recharge overnight is just a fraction if the uses of fossil fuel. They don't ever consider how the food gets to the stores, supplies to the hardware store, etc.
You need something that can run for long periods of time and be replenished quickly. Right now batteries aren't even close to replacing diesel, gas or LP/natural gas for transportation or emergency backup. Sorry, hospital is closed, lost power and it was cloudy so the sun couldn't recharge the batteries.
Hey Joe! What is plastic made of?
We'll just plant more plastic trees, you bigot.
Plastic trees. Ever heard of them? That's where plastic comes from.
Swing states are being pushed harder now because they need more people to vote than there can be possible mail in ballots in the event they become contested. State population v # ballots may come into question.
My personal theory is the election will be suspended pending allegations. I could be wrong so I’m still gonna play my role and vote.
WHO BUILT THE CAGES JOE?
Who do you think are the puppet masters behind Biden?
China.
I mean you have to understand socialists to know why he said that.
Do you think Stalin cared about the MILLIONS of people out in the countryside staving to death as he pushed his early socialist programs in the 1920s-30s?
Biden said that because in a socialist America he only has to worry about them for a few months. After that, they will start to die off or be in such poverty that they have smaller families. Then in a few decades of socialist rule, there won't be any of them left.
Why worry about people that won't be around.
To fight socialism you have to understand socialism.
Which means he'd plunge WV back into poverty and suicide by closing our iron and coal mines, just like he and Obama did for 8 years. West Virginia in 2016 went 68% for Trump. This time around, we'd better vote 100% for Trump!
This blew my mind. And the media acts like it never happened.
Louisiana has entered the chat
Which proves...Texas isn’t even close.
Need to get out and vote anyway. The illegals own all the deep southern counties, and we need to push back!
And they are gonna flip Texas right?
Only with fraudulent votes that all happen to be for Shelia Jackson Lee
WA resident here. I love seeing all the Bernie/Biden homes with solar pannels on them. In western WA it rains, is cloudy, and snows off and on from Sept. to May. I know a homesteader who has a large solar panel and it's effectively useless for 75% of the year. At best it keeps batteries from dying something is left on accidentally.
Solar is a great option in the Southwest and solar farms would be amazing alternatives. But it's not a holistic solution. If they really want emission free that doesn't cost more to maintain and create than the energy it provides (cough, wind energy) then they need to incorporate hydroelectric, solar, and nuclear. There's no power panacea unless we discover cold fusion.
Joe Biden promised loads of stuff over the years. what are the things that he delivered on? locking up black people for petty crimes.
Joe Biden will allow the transition of the oil industry, like he'll allow the transition of 8 years old children.
In both cases, we're talking about mutilation and death.
Could cost him PA which would deliver the election to Trump, assuming that Trump wins FL.
It also means higher cost of electricity, higher cost of trucking, higher cost of plastics, higher cost of drugs... Just for starters
In my profession, cost of PVC pipe is going up 7% already.
These creeps are playing with fire
Did you notice during the Democrat debates that it seemed like Biden and Kamala just invented the end of fossil fuels right there on the dais. Obviously no one thought about this at all.
And Trump baited him into saying it. You're Goddamned right I ordered the code red!
Yeah it isn't like most of the things you have in your house wasn't made of oil anyways. Better use that vegan butter as a substitute instead to make it more environmentally friendly :).
To me no fracking means either a cold ass winter with no natural gas heat, or extremely high NG prices for very expensive winter heating bills.
Did I mention I live near the Canadian border?
Joe is out of his mind!
Rust Belt is the new Bible Belt for conservative candidates. A generational shift because Dems are too arrogant to think they'll ever lose votes in working class states.
This is disturbing. Perhaps these are not election promises anymore. Perhaps this is supposed to mean: Joe WILL be president, and that's what he WILL do after his enabling statute act of 2021.
Then he topped it by announcing he has an election fraud team!
Mods are quicky wit da sticky
Twitter removed over a 100,000 likes from this tweet. Enemy of the people!
Thanks Joe. I'm sure everyone you promised to put out of work feels a lot better now.
I have just moved into a tiny house that I am making self sufficient. I am an aerospace engineer with a minor in environmental sciences.
I can very much Say that the left is incredibly anti science when it comes to renewable energy. More than any other source of energy we need the natural gas supplied by the United States in order to have a clean environment while supplying the energy needs of the world.
Giving up energy independence raises prices which means as supply goes down prices globally go up which gives power back to Russia, Iran, Saudis, etc .... us keeping prices low really dents their oil revenue.
But without fracking, how will Joe get the energy to power the 50,000 charging stations he wants set up for the electric cars?
FACT CHECK: False. Biden doesn't want to abolish the oil industry, his actual plan is to do everything in his power to make it stop existing, as quickly as possible. Totally different.