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If I were to show you a sonogram of a baby who was conceived consensually vs one conceived from rape, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Murder of the innocent is still murder, PERIOD. We kill enemies because of their actions and we kill animals for sustenance. Those situations are absolutely not comparable.
And how to do you reconcile that with the incentive the rapist gains of having a child born into the world, even if, let's say, the rapist gets the death penalty?
We're on the same team, no need for name calling. But you ignored the legal argument of confounding life and consent as ObjectiveReality was discussing. If abortion in cases of rape is illegal, what's to stop a bunch of suicidal incels from going out and raping people knowing it guarantees they'll have progeny even if they themselves are sick of living and don't care about the ensuing death penalty? Especially given the massive importation of the third world into the West.
Here is a thought on the subject; I grew up before RvW. Then a woman had the child and gave it away. R.vW was founded on a Lie, and the woman who started all this, has been trying to undo her error.
The first option makes more sense than infanticide.
Ok, I hear your Points. Might I offer this? There is no requirement for her to turn to substance abuse. She might be raped because of substance abuse, or because that is how she is paying for 'it'
And it does not HAVE to follow that the child, who knows nothing of this til he/she is circa 10-12 years old- 'is set up to fail'.
And the adoption system has suffered, over the years, from Commie inspired policies of State and Federal governments. Witness gay adoption, who thought that was a good idea?
Under the, I will put it at circa pre 1960's, adoption Laws, any couple wanting to adopt went thru a vetting process that would boggle anyone today who reads the list.
And you are right, its a 50/50 chance right now- but even that is better than infanticide.
It will be useful for you to note, In Brief, that I am a product of an unwed mother and the adoption system. And I graduated High School, attended "The South East Asia School of Land Warfare, and graduated, got married in short, did all the expected Civil Duties of a US Citizen. I was not 'set up to fail' by my mothers actions.
Last; that comedian with the TV show?? said it best; FAIR? Fair is where you go to eat cotton candy"
It will be useful for you to note, In Brief, that I am a product of an unwed mother and the adoption system. And I graduated High School, attended "The South East Asia School of Land Warfare, and graduated, got married in short, did all the expected Civil Duties of a US Citizen. I was not 'set up to fail' by my mothers actions.
Thanks for mentioning this. It still boggles my mind how so many ignorant and arrogant people think they have the authority to determine whether someone else's life will be worth living. If my mother wasn't a super religious woman who's 100% against abortion, I wouldn't exist because all her doctors and my father's family were pressuring her to abort for "medical" reasons which turned out to be bunk.
The only remotely legitimate justification for abortion I can think of is body image issue, that pregnancy would permenantly change the body shape, causing saggy boobs, stretch marks on the belly, loose vagina, hair loss, you can no longer fit in your skinny jeans and cheerleader uniforms, stuffs like that. I don't know how much of that is true though. Hope some lady who has had some experience could enlighten me a little on this issue.
Abortion is the last resolve when all other contraceptives have all failed. Even Margaret Sanger, planned murderhood's founder, was against abortion. I don't know whether she would have had a different opinion if the super vacuum machine had existed at her time, though. If you're talking about the high doses of estrogen and progestin in birth control, then yes, birth control pills have a lot of side effects, including hair loss and depression, but most women are not aware of that and would never attritbute those problems to the pill because muuuuuuhhhhh birth control is a sacred human right. I actually learned that from a recent episode of Sex wtih Emily, lol. I can't believe I'm sharing this here.
That is extremely rare. Less than 1% of all abortions. Even if a rape has really resulted in a pregnancy, then adoption is still an answer. You can even dump the baby at the fire department if you want.
I disagree very much with your points but I can definitely respect and understand the intent behind them. I really can.
Pro life believers believe it is a human life with a soul at conception. Yes it can and does happen so frequently these days. It’s because sex isn’t supposed to be like it is indoctrinated today. Yes sex is incredible. It’s great! But with a Monogamous partner. Ultimately I mean. Of course not everyone is going to do this but it should be the norm as opposed to what is encouraged and even taught in schools these days.
The byproduct of having fucking sex is obviously pregnancy. So? Don’t have random continuous sex with people you don’t want to have children (due to the physical and biological aspect of having sex) with.
For centuries the nuclear family has been the norm. And the best way to ensure the future of our species. No matter the time period, at its core it’s all the same. These days the nuclear family is literally being dismantled by admitted Marxist’s who hate America. Like actually detest the country they live in.
Abortion is all kinds of bad in all ways but the way our society is these days is responsible too. A move away from morality and God. Christianity is mocked and linked to bigotry, racism and hate. Wild random degenerate sex (trans, stupid other fucking gender shit) all of it is fucking stank nasty.
Edit- yes I’m a devout- but respectfully
Open minded to listen- Christian/ Catholic. For many years I was agnostic. Cursing is something I need to cut down on but it gets the point across so fucking well sometimes.
While this argument makes sense, it also opens a dirty incentive for the rapist having a child born into the world even if the rapist gets the death penalty.
We may be on different planes about morality and legality.
Morally I agree with you.
Do you think it should be illegal for a woman to abort a child that resulted from rape? That's what I'm referring to about unintended consequences - a rapist, knowing it is illegal to abort the child, could be incentivized to rape to have a child born even if the rapist is willing to take the death penalty for it.
I think it should be illegal because I believe in the scientific definition of human life and our constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, regardless of how we are conceived.
Women got abortions before Roe, and will continue afterwards.
Unpopular opinion, but I'd want the option if I were raped. I'm old enough that it may not be an issue much longer, and I'm grateful to never have to make that decision.
Speaking near midnight Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., called the vote “illegitimate” and “the last gasp of a desperate party.”
You get that, folks? The chick that lied about her "Indian" heritage to get a privileged seat in the Ivy League system, then hosted the "DNC Native Caucus" zoom, is telling us flipping the SCOTUS for the next few generations is "desperation".
This is why we don't need sports anymore. Even better!
I can only imagine that reddit sounds like the broken idler pulley on my dryer right now. Oddly specific, I know, but I fuckin hate the screech of that thing.
Important point to remember - the Democrats wouldn't be this fucking salty if they were confident Joe is winning or they knew their cheating mechanism is in place and working.
They know Joe is losing horribly and their cheating has been successfully hindered. Trump has a mandate. Democrats have nothing. Get fucked.
Don’t think it’s gonna happen. Only once in the history of the US has a justice been impeached. And it would take a 2/3rd majority in the senate I think.
Barely a word over on Reddit so far. I had to sort r/all by new there (not even rising) to see ANYTHING, and even then, one of the two links was from a (minor) Trump sub.
Hold on to your butts, this is going to get good
HOLD ON TO YOUR NUTS, WE'RE ABOUT TO FUCK BUTTS.
HOLD ON TO MY NUTS! ITS ABOUT TO GET BIG!
BIGLY...
Not the same! But I like your spirit!!!
How did this thread turn gay?
Chemicals in the water.
First the frogs, now the threads.
mine was a Jurassic Park ref
Y’all chumpin fer Trump’s poll bump stumpin’
I don't have much of a butt, can I hold unto yours fellow pede?
Happy bday Hillary!!!
I kinda wonder if Trump intentionally wanted the confirmation for today to coincide with her b-day
That was more McConnell's call, as head of the Senate.
But I wouldn't put it past him to coordinate it with Trump for maximum fuckery.
Poor Cocaine Mitch, must be hard times since his best customer just got outed as a pedo.
Q. WHERE’S TRUMP IN THIS PHOTO?
A. EVERYWHERE.
This is his personal pic on his iphone
Big coke energy
GET THAT MAN SOME COCAINE ASAP!!! HE'S EARNED IT!
God bless us, every one! Deus vult!
We need more women like her!
Winning NEVER gets old!
Not only for the president, but also for the senate GOP!
Awesome pic
Look how cool Pence looks!
He always looks like he's just chillin and its great
Mike "The Tie-Breaker" Pence
I liked how he stared down Putin in one video. Guy likes and probably does not fear no man.
Not tired of winning
Lets gooooo!
Time to overturn those ridiculous VBM rulings in PA
Overturn Roe!
Abortion is murder. Murder isn't always bad.
We murder enemies on the battle field.
We murder cows because they are tasty.
I have no problem murdering a product of force.
I do have a problem murdering a product of regret.
If I were to show you a sonogram of a baby who was conceived consensually vs one conceived from rape, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Murder of the innocent is still murder, PERIOD. We kill enemies because of their actions and we kill animals for sustenance. Those situations are absolutely not comparable.
Two things that look the same are not necessarily the same.
If I show you a photo of a politician that supports Roe and one that doesn't, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference either.
And how to do you reconcile that with the incentive the rapist gains of having a child born into the world, even if, let's say, the rapist gets the death penalty?
We're on the same team, no need for name calling. But you ignored the legal argument of confounding life and consent as ObjectiveReality was discussing. If abortion in cases of rape is illegal, what's to stop a bunch of suicidal incels from going out and raping people knowing it guarantees they'll have progeny even if they themselves are sick of living and don't care about the ensuing death penalty? Especially given the massive importation of the third world into the West.
Here is a thought on the subject; I grew up before RvW. Then a woman had the child and gave it away. R.vW was founded on a Lie, and the woman who started all this, has been trying to undo her error.
The first option makes more sense than infanticide.
Ok, I hear your Points. Might I offer this? There is no requirement for her to turn to substance abuse. She might be raped because of substance abuse, or because that is how she is paying for 'it' And it does not HAVE to follow that the child, who knows nothing of this til he/she is circa 10-12 years old- 'is set up to fail'. And the adoption system has suffered, over the years, from Commie inspired policies of State and Federal governments. Witness gay adoption, who thought that was a good idea? Under the, I will put it at circa pre 1960's, adoption Laws, any couple wanting to adopt went thru a vetting process that would boggle anyone today who reads the list. And you are right, its a 50/50 chance right now- but even that is better than infanticide. It will be useful for you to note, In Brief, that I am a product of an unwed mother and the adoption system. And I graduated High School, attended "The South East Asia School of Land Warfare, and graduated, got married in short, did all the expected Civil Duties of a US Citizen. I was not 'set up to fail' by my mothers actions.
Last; that comedian with the TV show?? said it best; FAIR? Fair is where you go to eat cotton candy"
Thanks for mentioning this. It still boggles my mind how so many ignorant and arrogant people think they have the authority to determine whether someone else's life will be worth living. If my mother wasn't a super religious woman who's 100% against abortion, I wouldn't exist because all her doctors and my father's family were pressuring her to abort for "medical" reasons which turned out to be bunk.
And Back, Thanks for the reply, and welcome to the human race, Mom made the right choice
The only remotely legitimate justification for abortion I can think of is body image issue, that pregnancy would permenantly change the body shape, causing saggy boobs, stretch marks on the belly, loose vagina, hair loss, you can no longer fit in your skinny jeans and cheerleader uniforms, stuffs like that. I don't know how much of that is true though. Hope some lady who has had some experience could enlighten me a little on this issue.
Your theory falls to the earth, when you take a look a the First Lady. However, for many women, you are right. Thus its not a universal.
And that would be 'the worlds worst excuse' right at the start. And what happened to contraceptives??
Abortion is the last resolve when all other contraceptives have all failed. Even Margaret Sanger, planned murderhood's founder, was against abortion. I don't know whether she would have had a different opinion if the super vacuum machine had existed at her time, though. If you're talking about the high doses of estrogen and progestin in birth control, then yes, birth control pills have a lot of side effects, including hair loss and depression, but most women are not aware of that and would never attritbute those problems to the pill because muuuuuuhhhhh birth control is a sacred human right. I actually learned that from a recent episode of Sex wtih Emily, lol. I can't believe I'm sharing this here.
That is extremely rare. Less than 1% of all abortions. Even if a rape has really resulted in a pregnancy, then adoption is still an answer. You can even dump the baby at the fire department if you want.
I disagree very much with your points but I can definitely respect and understand the intent behind them. I really can.
Pro life believers believe it is a human life with a soul at conception. Yes it can and does happen so frequently these days. It’s because sex isn’t supposed to be like it is indoctrinated today. Yes sex is incredible. It’s great! But with a Monogamous partner. Ultimately I mean. Of course not everyone is going to do this but it should be the norm as opposed to what is encouraged and even taught in schools these days. The byproduct of having fucking sex is obviously pregnancy. So? Don’t have random continuous sex with people you don’t want to have children (due to the physical and biological aspect of having sex) with. For centuries the nuclear family has been the norm. And the best way to ensure the future of our species. No matter the time period, at its core it’s all the same. These days the nuclear family is literally being dismantled by admitted Marxist’s who hate America. Like actually detest the country they live in.
Abortion is all kinds of bad in all ways but the way our society is these days is responsible too. A move away from morality and God. Christianity is mocked and linked to bigotry, racism and hate. Wild random degenerate sex (trans, stupid other fucking gender shit) all of it is fucking stank nasty.
Edit- yes I’m a devout- but respectfully Open minded to listen- Christian/ Catholic. For many years I was agnostic. Cursing is something I need to cut down on but it gets the point across so fucking well sometimes.
Not OP, but I firmly believe we shouldn't give children the death penalty for their father's crime.
If the woman is able to handle it psychologically and carry the baby to term then put him/her up for adoption, that is great. I'd admire her strength.
While this argument makes sense, it also opens a dirty incentive for the rapist having a child born into the world even if the rapist gets the death penalty.
I'm not quite sure what you mean...
I'm saying that a child is innocent of their parents' crimes and shouldn't be punished. The criminal can still burn for all I care.
We may be on different planes about morality and legality.
Morally I agree with you.
Do you think it should be illegal for a woman to abort a child that resulted from rape? That's what I'm referring to about unintended consequences - a rapist, knowing it is illegal to abort the child, could be incentivized to rape to have a child born even if the rapist is willing to take the death penalty for it.
I think it should be illegal because I believe in the scientific definition of human life and our constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, regardless of how we are conceived.
I agree with you, but struggle legally with the unintended consequence/perverse incentive that opens for the reason stated above.
But they carry the same genetic propensity for it
Nope. Genetics isn't destiny.
Destiny isn't what you are killing it for.
You're doing it to end a genetic line with a proven propensity for rape.
By that logic, everyone descended from Ghengis Khan should be a rapist.
Women got abortions before Roe, and will continue afterwards.
Unpopular opinion, but I'd want the option if I were raped. I'm old enough that it may not be an issue much longer, and I'm grateful to never have to make that decision.
The SC has already said it will not be hearing any more cases related to abortion.
They should tho.
ever?
4(0) MORE YEARS!
The only thing that would make this shot more of a renaissance painting would be if the Don was there.
Nah we know that president trump would overshadow them all with his greatness. Better to show her in the limelight.
The Notorious ACB!
The VICTORIOUS ACB!!!
The glorious ACB! PS: That's a real title of one episode of the Michael Knowles show!
GET REKT DEMS
MAGA
Now yeet some justice on these commies!
You get that, folks? The chick that lied about her "Indian" heritage to get a privileged seat in the Ivy League system, then hosted the "DNC Native Caucus" zoom, is telling us flipping the SCOTUS for the next few generations is "desperation".
This is why we don't need sports anymore. Even better!
Leo DiCaprio whiskey laugh!!!!!!!!
EAT IT FUCKING DEMONCRATZ
Historic!
Beautiful picture of the woman who will save our Constitutional rights. Awesome!
Pence looks menacing baby
Here he looks, and I mean it in the most positive way, like a respected Irish mob capo of the old days.
And that’s confirmed!
Congratulations!
I was opposed but since the decision is made all I can say is I hope she does well in the court. I'd hate to see another Roberts.
Such an epic image. Executive, Judicial, and Legislative branches in one pic.
Great Photo...Amy... Electric Pence and Cocaine Mitch.
The fox and the turtle.
Slow and Steady (and a little blow) Wins the Race.
CONFIRMED!
Boom!
Take that you commie fucks
I can only imagine that reddit sounds like the broken idler pulley on my dryer right now. Oddly specific, I know, but I fuckin hate the screech of that thing.
SHE'S ONE HOT JUSTICE
Important point to remember - the Democrats wouldn't be this fucking salty if they were confident Joe is winning or they knew their cheating mechanism is in place and working.
They know Joe is losing horribly and their cheating has been successfully hindered. Trump has a mandate. Democrats have nothing. Get fucked.
Now we just have to replace Roberts
Don’t think it’s gonna happen. Only once in the history of the US has a justice been impeached. And it would take a 2/3rd majority in the senate I think.
Both houses are involved, just like with impeaching presidents.
It takes 2/3rds of the House to impeach, and 2/3rds of the Senate to convict.
Now anytime something happens that the dems don't like, they will claim, "THIS IS PART OF THE TRUMP LEGACY COME BACK TO HAUNT US."
Praise God for ACB!
She has a magisterial air. It's cool, but I also feel like that's probably why Trump picked her, lol. Oh well. I hope she lives up to the job!
Damn that’s a great picture. Will be in the Textbooks for the next 100 years.
Now that’s a side bar pic!
Barely a word over on Reddit so far. I had to sort r/all by new there (not even rising) to see ANYTHING, and even then, one of the two links was from a (minor) Trump sub.
We're first with the REAL news.
As usual.
She's an intellectual GIANT.
Collins voted no. See ya!
Pardon the blasphemy, but that is one hell of a photograph.
Are you STILL WATCHING? Cocaine Mitch has just rolled up with ANOTHER Federal Court Judge Nominee afterwards! lol
Not sure if its to replace ACB's now vacant seat. God damn he's ruthless.
God do I love having Republicans in power. Glorious!
Bravely looking toward a bold, better direction for America.
Law and Order bitches! Loved Cocaine Mitch's speech, get fucked Chuck and every cuck with their pathetic nay.