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LibertyorDeath1776 8 points ago +8 / -0

It’s not a draw the line argument imo. A new set of DNA is created at conception and the human starts to grow. Humans go through stages In life, and one stage is being 2 cells, you then grow up and get a heart beat, you keep growing up and then start to “look like the rest of us”, then you grow to a point where you do not need your mothers body to survive, L but can survive in the world alone and are born. You then go through about 10000 other changes from birth to death.

To kill a living, growing, human just because it doesn’t “look like you” is absurd and very narrow minded, imo. A heart beat doesn’t make you a human, having a unique set of human DNA and living through the same stages of live all humans that have ever lived went through, that makes you human. You were once two cells, so was I, so was your mother and father, and everyone else ever. Don’t start drawing arbitrary lines on human life because you don’t understand human biology. You create a human at conception. Hence the name

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droden -10 points ago +2 / -12

personhood is not 2 cells and some dna. its not 4 cells. define where it begins. 1 cell is not a person. it becomes a draw the line argument. 26 weeks is the most logical point. heart beat and a large amount of neural activity.

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LostViking1985 8 points ago +8 / -0

Abortion is an intervention in a very well understood process. If you leave a fertilized egg alone, almost all of the time it will develop into a person. Miscarriages and other complications can happen, but an abortion is a conscious choice to end the process that we KNOW creates a new person. I am pro choice for people who have been forced into a situation (rape, medical, etc), but those are less than 2% of abortions. The vast majority of abortions are preventable. Even in those cases I support, abortion is tragic. It's not the person-to-be's fault that they were conceived in bad circumstances.

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PikachuJohnson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. If left to its natural devices, a zygote will become a baby. It takes an outside force to prevent that.

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LibertyorDeath1776 6 points ago +6 / -0

1 cell is certainly a person, just a very young one. Part of the human experience is being 1 cell at one time. You are not 1 cell for very long, but it’s absolutely living and growing, and part of the human condition. Life has many stages, and humans are complex creatures, and takes us time to develop into our full form. Everyday there are over 300,000 humans around the world that are one cell, and over 100,000,000 in the womb. These are all humans, just young ones that look and act different than you and me. In only a few months they will grow and develop to look more “people like”, but they are still people. Denying them their humanity is anti-scientific and immoral, imo.