Count how many shots it takes to STOP this guy from charging. It's like 15-17 shots to center mass! The guy was unstoppable. And they should have aimed for "the leg?"
Yep. Especially those who fire at the air or past the target like retards. That's why the cops in the Breonna Taylor case got in trouble, and rightfully so.
Nothing says, "I'm a moron who thinks movies are real" like suggesting a police officer should "just" aim for a flailing limb when they're suddenly being rushed by a drugged out nutjob in a dark street.
You know what IS actually easy, though? How about you "just" don't attack a police officer? Or better yet, what if you just didn't commit a crime?
After a suicide by cop happened at my College there was ligit outrage that they didn't "shoot the gun out of this hand". On a dark parking deck, with a multi tool he had bent as a 90 degree angle that he said was a gun, while screaming "shoot me", and walking toward the cop and being given mins of warning to put the tool down.
All the arm chair quarterback suddenly became gun experts over night They compared photos to the tool to real guns and said they looked nothing a like and citied cases where snipers has shot the gun out of peoples hands.
Life isn't a video game. You don't get to fuck up and them just come back to life. you don't get to pause and look up what to do. You have to make a quick decision and if the other person isn't helping then you have to do what you think is right.
Movies: Good guy gets shot in the shoulder, grimaces, bleeds a bit for dramatic effect, keeps going.
Real life: Guy gets shot in the shoulder, possibly shatters shoulder blade, bone fragments sever tendons, splinter into spinal cord, victim is possibly paralyzed or no longer has use of arm. Victim bleeds to death.
Movie baddie shot: flies back with dramatic impact, slams into a shelf and hits the floor. Dead instantly.
Real life: shot 7 times, adrenaline keeps them going for another 6-15 seconds (a LONG fucking time for someone charging with a knife/shooting) before hitting the floor, proceeds to bleed out over 2-15 minutes, crying for their mother (yes, actually. I don't day they cry to their mother to mock them. A majority spend their last breaths apologizing/asking for their mom.)
It takes about 1.5 seconds for a person to close a 21ft gap, "21ft rule". I would love to see how the "armchair police" would respond to a maniac with a knife running at them full speed.
Imagine telling somebody defending their property from a wild animal "Shoot em in the leg!"
Honestly I want anybody who criticizes police to go through some kind of self defense training. Show what it's like to be in the shoes of a police officer before you criticize.
"Shoot him in the leg" is still fascist since you still want the police to shoot people. If a counselor isn't available, the police officers should shoot the knife or gun out of the hand of the BIPOC they're antagonizing.
I've had some online "discussions" with some Europeans that brag that their cops are trained to do this. They didn't like it when I said then all their cops must be Annie Oakleys with super cat like reflexes...or they like having dead cops. It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard -- well, at least in the top 10; I've heard a lot of stupid stuff as of late.
Yeah it's complete bullshit. If their cops are trained and capable of shooting for the shoulder or the toe or the left index finger or whatever, their pool of sharpshooters is significantly deeper than that of the US, where gun culture is a way of life and people shoot more in a recreational weekend than their cops do in their lifetime.
Don't forget the super cat-like reflexes to do this while the attacker is running at you, or even walking quickly at close range. Yeah, I'm totally believing it.
How hard is it actually to hit a moving target anyway? And now a moving target in the leg? Seems center mass is the proper response to a guy coming at you with a knife.
I was actually walking through the mall yesterday in Delaware and heard 2 black males talking about this. They were saying how ridiculous it is for people to say shoot in the leg and how police are not trained to do this.
Let me just aim at something that has a surface area of what? 8, 10 inches wide maximum? On a moving target, in very likely suboptimal lighting, at extremely variable distances, while being caught completely off guard and simultaneously terrified for my own life. Oh and hope they don't turn around.
Fucking idiots. Just aim for center mass, much bigger area for you to be able to hit, then bury the body in your backyard.
You want to know how to piss someone off that’s drugged up: IF You can actually aim at 5inch round legs and then Shoot them in the leg. AND IF you happened to hit them in their legs, then you will just piss them off.
Just where could a person shoot a person to be sure they were incapacitated but not killed? I think the "in the leg" idea must come from watching football as the most effective tackles hit the lower leg area.
The same people saying he should have shot him in the leg are the same people who don't own guns and would have been stabbed to death by this guy. If he's crazy enough to attack armed cops with a knife what the fuck you think he'll do with an unarmed citizen? He belongs off the streets and wherever he ends up he ends up
You don't need to be in a gun fight to learn these things. Shoot a pistol at a target at 7 yards and you'll immediately come away realizing everything you ever saw on TV was bullshit.
Fact: People get criminally prosecuted for firing warning shots.
If you have to defend yourself, shoot to wound or kill. Your case will probably stand up better in court.
Worse, people get criminally prosecuted just for showing that they have a gun (brandishing). We need self-defense law reform.
Maybe, like make it a constitutional amendment or something. Like the right to bear arms or something. Oh, and it shouldn't be infringed upon.
I might be wrong, but that sounds like it might be necessary for a free state.
That would do it!
Honestly I'm sitting here thinking it would have been better to live in Soviet Russia than under democrat control nowadays
no, but soon it will be the same, because same playbook
Always shoot center mass.
Anyone who says "just shoot them in the leg" needs to watch this video of a guy with a knife charging an officer in a Chicago park:
https://twitter.com/CWBChicago/status/1311804373786390528
Count how many shots it takes to STOP this guy from charging. It's like 15-17 shots to center mass! The guy was unstoppable. And they should have aimed for "the leg?"
“Well duh, why didn’t he just shoot the knife out of the guy’s hand???” /s
Meth is a hell of a drug.
I was taught two center mass and one in the brain case
You are a better marksman than me. I just lay them down center mass.
lol:) If the first two are good the last one is easy...
Disclaimer: For any Feds listening, this was a joke regarding military conflict and description of personal defense in a civilian environment
Twice.
I don't think so. You shoot to stop the threat. You don't shoot to kill. In law, proving intent is the bitch of all motherfuckers.
Yep. Especially those who fire at the air or past the target like retards. That's why the cops in the Breonna Taylor case got in trouble, and rightfully so.
Nothing says, "I'm a moron who thinks movies are real" like suggesting a police officer should "just" aim for a flailing limb when they're suddenly being rushed by a drugged out nutjob in a dark street.
You know what IS actually easy, though? How about you "just" don't attack a police officer? Or better yet, what if you just didn't commit a crime?
What you mean real life isn't like the game Fallout where you can slow time and target limbs with accurate precision at the click of a button?!
Even in fallout pistols can't hit shit past like 20 feet lmao, even using V.A.T.S.
After a suicide by cop happened at my College there was ligit outrage that they didn't "shoot the gun out of this hand". On a dark parking deck, with a multi tool he had bent as a 90 degree angle that he said was a gun, while screaming "shoot me", and walking toward the cop and being given mins of warning to put the tool down.
All the arm chair quarterback suddenly became gun experts over night They compared photos to the tool to real guns and said they looked nothing a like and citied cases where snipers has shot the gun out of peoples hands.
Life isn't a video game. You don't get to fuck up and them just come back to life. you don't get to pause and look up what to do. You have to make a quick decision and if the other person isn't helping then you have to do what you think is right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Scout_Schultz
But anyone who does think movies are real can be directed to Mad Max or Lethal Weapon for clear examples of why "shoot him in the leg" is a bad idea
You assume people who said "just shoot him in the leg" didn't want the cops killed.
They repeat it because they see it all the time in movies and TV shows.
Movies: Good guy gets shot in the shoulder, grimaces, bleeds a bit for dramatic effect, keeps going.
Real life: Guy gets shot in the shoulder, possibly shatters shoulder blade, bone fragments sever tendons, splinter into spinal cord, victim is possibly paralyzed or no longer has use of arm. Victim bleeds to death.
Movie baddie shot: flies back with dramatic impact, slams into a shelf and hits the floor. Dead instantly.
Real life: shot 7 times, adrenaline keeps them going for another 6-15 seconds (a LONG fucking time for someone charging with a knife/shooting) before hitting the floor, proceeds to bleed out over 2-15 minutes, crying for their mother (yes, actually. I don't day they cry to their mother to mock them. A majority spend their last breaths apologizing/asking for their mom.)
Also in major pain.
Look up "knife vs gun" on YouTube. End of discussion after the first two videos.
It takes about 1.5 seconds for a person to close a 21ft gap, "21ft rule". I would love to see how the "armchair police" would respond to a maniac with a knife running at them full speed.
Why imagine when you can watch the body cam footage. They scream SO LOUD! It's like a fucking horror movie.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/10/1/21497997/police-shooting-video-shaon-jermy-ochea-warner-copa
what is the point of shooting someone if you aren't trying to kill them?
"stop the threat" is the phrase one needs to know.
Imagine telling somebody defending their property from a wild animal "Shoot em in the leg!"
Honestly I want anybody who criticizes police to go through some kind of self defense training. Show what it's like to be in the shoes of a police officer before you criticize.
"Shoot him in the leg" is still fascist since you still want the police to shoot people. If a counselor isn't available, the police officers should shoot the knife or gun out of the hand of the BIPOC they're antagonizing.
I've had some online "discussions" with some Europeans that brag that their cops are trained to do this. They didn't like it when I said then all their cops must be Annie Oakleys with super cat like reflexes...or they like having dead cops. It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard -- well, at least in the top 10; I've heard a lot of stupid stuff as of late.
Yeah it's complete bullshit. If their cops are trained and capable of shooting for the shoulder or the toe or the left index finger or whatever, their pool of sharpshooters is significantly deeper than that of the US, where gun culture is a way of life and people shoot more in a recreational weekend than their cops do in their lifetime.
Don't forget the super cat-like reflexes to do this while the attacker is running at you, or even walking quickly at close range. Yeah, I'm totally believing it.
it works great! The bullet shatters, and the fragments and the knife go spinning off to hit pedestrians who were not even in the line of fire:)
How hard is it actually to hit a moving target anyway? And now a moving target in the leg? Seems center mass is the proper response to a guy coming at you with a knife.
With lots of practice it’s doable in non-stressful situations; but even seasoned duck hunters use bird shot for a reason.
I was actually walking through the mall yesterday in Delaware and heard 2 black males talking about this. They were saying how ridiculous it is for people to say shoot in the leg and how police are not trained to do this.
Let me just aim at something that has a surface area of what? 8, 10 inches wide maximum? On a moving target, in very likely suboptimal lighting, at extremely variable distances, while being caught completely off guard and simultaneously terrified for my own life. Oh and hope they don't turn around.
Fucking idiots. Just aim for center mass, much bigger area for you to be able to hit, then bury the body in your backyard.
I thought Danny Glover and Mel Gibson put this stupid idea to rest in 1988 or so.
I said that on this dom a few months ago and got assraped for it. apparently rightfully so.
the femoral artery thing is also a really good point I didnt think of.
I have no combat experience and have only shot a pistol once, that makes me a cunt.
You want to know how to piss someone off that’s drugged up: IF You can actually aim at 5inch round legs and then Shoot them in the leg. AND IF you happened to hit them in their legs, then you will just piss them off.
Shoot the Bidens in the leg because they’re criminals
Just more proof lefties live in fantasy land.
STUDY.
Also MATURE.
Let’s throw in some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
How about some of that too?
Just where could a person shoot a person to be sure they were incapacitated but not killed? I think the "in the leg" idea must come from watching football as the most effective tackles hit the lower leg area.
The same people saying he should have shot him in the leg are the same people who don't own guns and would have been stabbed to death by this guy. If he's crazy enough to attack armed cops with a knife what the fuck you think he'll do with an unarmed citizen? He belongs off the streets and wherever he ends up he ends up
Someone who is willing to rob and kill won't suddenly stop because they failed once.
You don't need to be in a gun fight to learn these things. Shoot a pistol at a target at 7 yards and you'll immediately come away realizing everything you ever saw on TV was bullshit.
Shower thought answer: Shoot them in the groin. You may not kill them, but at least they won't be reproducing anymore.
libs have strong opinions on things they have never experienced in general, and it's because they think television and movies are real.
If you were to shoot someone that would lead to the lowest probability of death where would it be on their body?
Life is not a tic tok where you just point to words in the air and clap your hands and say end of discussion.
“Just shoot him in the leg”
hits femoral artery in the leg and the guy bleeds out to death within seconds
The it’ll be “just shoot him in the foot”
Spez: I should hsve read the post first. I’m just repeating it I guess.
Reeee then don’t hit them in the thigh to avoid the femoral artery. Shoot them in the ankles!
They also don't understand that many of these attackers are hopped up on drugs that prevent them from feeling pain.
Hey now! poor kids are just as smart as White kids.
Some moron wrote into my local paper asking why the cops can’t just use tranquilizers lol