Well the economy its under state control in both systems, planned and centralized. Why it seems to you that are against each other is because they are two fractions of the same ideology represented by different people fighting each other to gain power and control. The clearest example is the strugle between the mensheviks ,the bolsheviks and the socialist revolutionaries , all socialist but different leaders and small differences in policy. I prefer the approach of Common Sense Nationalism with Capitalism as its economic system. This being said, no political system that humans produce will be perfect , i.e flawed humans ,flawed systems.
Fascism is not a national interest. Fascism is yet another face of collectivism. It is only different from socialism in that it pretends that private ownership means something.
In other words, fascism is yet another ideology of losers who can't compete.
Of course fascists rejected the concept of every one being equal, they're collectivists. In case you haven't figured it out yet, collectivism is the problem, no matter what name you slap on it or how you change it around the edges to try and make it more palatable.
No, facism is never the answer. Please don't post shit like this. IMO this shouldn't even be a point of discussion. Facism and communism are two sides of the same coin.
Every society has inequality- that is a fact of human existence. Are the elite Chinese communist billionaires treated the same as farmers?
Nazis wanted to base "class" on ethnicity- it was a caste system.
Fascism is unsustainable because it is inherently isolationist and antagonistic towards other nations. Nazi Germany barely lasted 10 years, and it had to go to war or collapse, and had to thieve from Jews and non-Germans or collapse. The social spending was massive.
Fuck fascists. Speaking of which, American society is largely fascistic because of the increasing power of the state (prior to Trump who has actually divested federal power), and the increasing corporatist relationship between government and industry.
The best cure for communism is free market economics and traditional values which lead to strong communities. The best cure is a constitutional republic.
The CCP is more fascist than communist in my opinion despite their attempt to keep up appearances. Seems like a terrible way to live being tortured over social media posts or disappeared for practicing your religion.
The process by which centralized government took over nations began in the early 20th century. In America that came from Democrats like FDR and LBJ.
Communism is dead. The people who call themselves socialist have no idea what it means including Bernie Sanders. Socialism is a growing concern.
There is a direct parallel between Democrats today and their populism and Nazi Germany. Please look at the Nazi platform from 1925- it is radically left economically even by today's standards. Today the Jews are called white men or the 1% but it is the same rhetoric. I'm not playing victim that's just the reality. The difference is Jews didn't do it to themselves.
Jews then were about as much threat to Nazi Germany as white supremacy is to the USA now. They just need a boogeyman to rile up support and then after being elected switch the platform from progressive to corporate.
The best counter to communism is a moral and religious people. That's who our constitution was made for, and that's why the left has promoted degeneracy and attacked/corrupted Christianity at every turn. If the people are immoral and degenerate, then they will get a dictatorship of one kind or another. So yes, if you have an immoral and degenerate people, then they will only avoid a communist dictatorship by getting placed under some other kind of dictatorship (such as a fascist one), or if they repent and become moral and religious once more. That being said, I value liberty, so trading one type of tyranny for another is not something I'm interested in.
If you don't counter international communism you will be living under another type of tyranny in the end.
Yes, but should it be the government's responsibility to do that?
We have leaders in western countries delaying elections and shutting down business then detaining people in internment camps against their will all over a flu virus
Yes we do. That wouldn't have happened in the founder's time though. Wanna know why? Because they would have slaughtered those leaders' Enforcers, Bureaucrats, and their families until they were overthrown or stopped acting like tyrants. The founders did just that for fewer abuses.
and the people are cheering these authoritarian leaders on.
Why are they cheering them on? Do you think they would be cheering them on if they were taught to value liberty? Would the school system in a fascist state program them to value liberty?
Universal suffrage is a huge mistake. People aren't equal and to suggest everyone should have an equal say in governing a State is entirely wrong.
The founding fathers agreed would have agreed with you on this. That's why originally only taxpaying (landowning) men could vote in the US.
You seem to be working off the assumption that the people are immoral, degenerate, and incapable of handling any responsibility to defend themselves. If that is the case then they will live under tyranny, and your conclusions are logical. If you are talking about a moral and Christian nation, then no. In fact the founders (referring to everyone that fought or helped in the American Revolution) would not have have put up with any flavor of tyranny, and would have killed to get rid of it.
TLDR: Everything you wrote above is correct in dealing with secular nations. Not so for truly Christian nations (like America was back then). Although one can say that for a true Christian, Christ is his dictator.
Fascism is Communism under a different name
Well the economy its under state control in both systems, planned and centralized. Why it seems to you that are against each other is because they are two fractions of the same ideology represented by different people fighting each other to gain power and control. The clearest example is the strugle between the mensheviks ,the bolsheviks and the socialist revolutionaries , all socialist but different leaders and small differences in policy. I prefer the approach of Common Sense Nationalism with Capitalism as its economic system. This being said, no political system that humans produce will be perfect , i.e flawed humans ,flawed systems.
Fascism is yet another collectivist system.
Individual liberty needs to be the basis of any system if your intent is to keep the boot off the face of humanity.
Fascism is not a national interest. Fascism is yet another face of collectivism. It is only different from socialism in that it pretends that private ownership means something.
In other words, fascism is yet another ideology of losers who can't compete.
Of course fascists rejected the concept of every one being equal, they're collectivists. In case you haven't figured it out yet, collectivism is the problem, no matter what name you slap on it or how you change it around the edges to try and make it more palatable.
No, facism is never the answer. Please don't post shit like this. IMO this shouldn't even be a point of discussion. Facism and communism are two sides of the same coin.
Every society has inequality- that is a fact of human existence. Are the elite Chinese communist billionaires treated the same as farmers?
Nazis wanted to base "class" on ethnicity- it was a caste system.
Fascism is unsustainable because it is inherently isolationist and antagonistic towards other nations. Nazi Germany barely lasted 10 years, and it had to go to war or collapse, and had to thieve from Jews and non-Germans or collapse. The social spending was massive.
Fuck fascists. Speaking of which, American society is largely fascistic because of the increasing power of the state (prior to Trump who has actually divested federal power), and the increasing corporatist relationship between government and industry.
The best cure for communism is free market economics and traditional values which lead to strong communities. The best cure is a constitutional republic.
The CCP is more fascist than communist in my opinion despite their attempt to keep up appearances. Seems like a terrible way to live being tortured over social media posts or disappeared for practicing your religion.
The process by which centralized government took over nations began in the early 20th century. In America that came from Democrats like FDR and LBJ.
Communism is dead. The people who call themselves socialist have no idea what it means including Bernie Sanders. Socialism is a growing concern.
There is a direct parallel between Democrats today and their populism and Nazi Germany. Please look at the Nazi platform from 1925- it is radically left economically even by today's standards. Today the Jews are called white men or the 1% but it is the same rhetoric. I'm not playing victim that's just the reality. The difference is Jews didn't do it to themselves.
Jews then were about as much threat to Nazi Germany as white supremacy is to the USA now. They just need a boogeyman to rile up support and then after being elected switch the platform from progressive to corporate.
I don't see why the powers that be would want a reset.
I think billionaires want power more than more money and the only thing they answer to is nations.
The TPP that Trump condemned empowers corporations over nations for example.
A one world government or NWO I get; but I don't agree with a "reset." Haven't looked into it though.
The best counter to communism is a moral and religious people. That's who our constitution was made for, and that's why the left has promoted degeneracy and attacked/corrupted Christianity at every turn. If the people are immoral and degenerate, then they will get a dictatorship of one kind or another. So yes, if you have an immoral and degenerate people, then they will only avoid a communist dictatorship by getting placed under some other kind of dictatorship (such as a fascist one), or if they repent and become moral and religious once more. That being said, I value liberty, so trading one type of tyranny for another is not something I'm interested in.
Yes, but should it be the government's responsibility to do that?
Yes we do. That wouldn't have happened in the founder's time though. Wanna know why? Because they would have slaughtered those leaders' Enforcers, Bureaucrats, and their families until they were overthrown or stopped acting like tyrants. The founders did just that for fewer abuses.
Why are they cheering them on? Do you think they would be cheering them on if they were taught to value liberty? Would the school system in a fascist state program them to value liberty?
The founding fathers agreed would have agreed with you on this. That's why originally only taxpaying (landowning) men could vote in the US.
You seem to be working off the assumption that the people are immoral, degenerate, and incapable of handling any responsibility to defend themselves. If that is the case then they will live under tyranny, and your conclusions are logical. If you are talking about a moral and Christian nation, then no. In fact the founders (referring to everyone that fought or helped in the American Revolution) would not have have put up with any flavor of tyranny, and would have killed to get rid of it.
TLDR: Everything you wrote above is correct in dealing with secular nations. Not so for truly Christian nations (like America was back then). Although one can say that for a true Christian, Christ is his dictator.