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Happened to me once. I told the postal worker I was here for my package, they said it was lost, I handed them my insurance receipt. Then they walked to the back and "found" it. Guess they were hoping to score a free PS4
My point is that shit happens and there are no absolutes. In shipping, sometimes parcels do fall between the cracks and are found eventually. Happened to me just a few weeks ago -- the package got mishandled by a new driver and was bouncing around between distribution centers according to the tracking information while it sat in the same truck for two weeks. When you S&R enough, you'll see it all, like a whole truckload of server gear being delivered to a wrong state. Logistics is so much fun!
I just doubt the story about how the drive was "found" on a desk a few days later.
An envelope doesn't get opened and a tiny little part suddenly disappear to a desk for 2 days.
I just measured a standard USB drive I have. It's approximately 2.25 inches by 5/8th inches.
That shit is tiny as fuck, and on a fast paced industrial scale package moving operation. Hell, something like that would have been ignored or swept up in the continuous operation with OSHA mandated cleaning of walkways to prevent "slips trips and falls"
I'm still suspect on the entire story of a USB drive disappearing and reappearing.
Either it was a UPS employee who "found" the USB drive after media attention, or tucker paid off somebody to plant a story for him.
Without more evidence we can't be 100% certain, but my personal opinion is Tucker wouldn't pay off somebody to plant a story for him.
You can't prove a negative. But if you believe that with no history of meddling of packages...that he just assumed those documents would be stolen so he could say his texts were being read...you're easily persuaded.
UPS losing a package like this... Only to find it after Tucker mentions that they had copies and calls them out (and you know who we speak of)... Occam's razor starts working against the argument that this was just a series of coincidences.
it lends credence to the theory that THE DOCUMENTS WERE STOLEN by a malicious entity like the deep state. The concept that keeps getting posted here (like it's a /pol op), is that Tucker sent the pages, knowing they would be stolen...as a trap.
It's the foreknowledge of theft that's unbelievable.
I assume Tucker and team had suspicions that they were being spied on based on other "coincidences" they might have noticed over the last few months, so they set up a fake "OCTOBER SURPRISE" to flush out t who is reading his text and email conversations. Hope it worked! Seems like they were found after Tucker said they have copies all over.
Guy,
Copies WERE sent, not the originals. Tucker still has the originals, OANN has them too. This is not bobulinsky's information, it's from a new source, but corroborated with Bobulinkys data.
OP is trying to suggest they used mailing the documents as a phishing attempt to ID spooks that are spying on them day and night on their emails, phones, and life.
I made a post to another pede that the flash drive probably contained an encrypted file that had GOTCHA FBI as the text. They opened the file and went OH FUCK we done did it now...
My Occam's razor argument to that: after everything we've learned about spygate and the dossier and the wiretaps at some point it would be prudent to at least make contingencies based on the assumption that at some point the deep state was going to try something like this.
Maybe this isn't the first time that Tucker has taken this precaution but it's certainly the first time that they caught the deep state red handed.
UPS wasn't accused of losing the package. They were accused of the contents of the package gone missing. UPS NOW says they found> the contents of the package.
The former administration was caught red handed spying on media figures. Additionally, the FBI in particular has always had a horrific history with domestic abuse of power per the Church Committee findings. The government doesn't need to be trusted until it is found untrustworthy, but to your point that doesn't provide infinite license for pointless speculation either.
Well, the giant squid was on that list 50 years ago. Now there's one in the Smithsonian. The point is the squid existed despite a noticeable lack of evidence.
Can't prove something that doesn't exist doesn't exist because a lack of evidence never equates to a lack of existence
Can't prove a negative.
OP's challenge was to prove something that I felt didn't exist...to prove that it didn't exist.
The fact that UPS has not only admitted that the package was tampered with but actually RECOVERED the documents is HUUUUUGE. A lot of people were claiming that the documents never existed and Tucker / his source were just making up the allegations that they had been stolen as a cover. This proves that not only did the documents really exist, but that they really were tampered with in transit.
If Tucker thought someone was reading his emails or texts, he might send one with the details, including the tracking number, to test if it gets intercepted.
Likewise, they could have mailed 20 different packages, to test 20 different potential moles.
If true, that's super weak, as it proves nothing. It suggests someone is watching, but confirms nothing (as accidents happen in shipping all the time).
If however he were to design a package riddled with cameras, microphones, trackers, etc, and then we're to reveal that recorded info, THAT would be a sting.
A high profile case was mailed to an individual. This we know.
We also know the contents of a envelope were taken out in transit. Now on this point I am not sure. If youre going to read shit in transit, why not just open it, copy it and then put it back re-sealed?
If you're a ups dude, and you see yet another destroyed package, you scan it, and toss it in the truck. And then the stuff falls out, looks like junk papers, so another guy hands them to the manager because not his problem... And then big investigation, and they get reunited.
"SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!! You were supposed to get RID of them immediately not hide them! Fuck we're screwed! Just put em back! Say you found em or something!!!"
The package was intercepted and shown to just be a plant... meaning, maybe a bunch of pictures of Trump pointing to "eat a bag of dicks".... they contained nothing, but used to prove they are watching.
The package was intercepted, rummaged through, and then restored as if nothing happened... this way they know what was in the package
The package was intercepted and things taken out.
The package was intercepted, but they decided not to do anything with it.
Also regardless of whether it was intercepted or a mistake now the whole thing can be dumped online anonymously by tucker and they have plausible deniability that the leak did not originate with them.
I do a lot of mailing and, gotta be honest, from what I've seen I wouldn't be surprised of it turns out the producer tried to fit way, way to much paper into ups's document envelopes. It probably got ripped open in one of the machines and the papers ended up in some mechanical part of their sorting machines. The producer probably though he could save a few bucks (or many bucks, for overnight shipping) by using an envelope instead of sending it as a package.
UPS mentioned the sealed package was opened and they had possession of that package. Then they throw “evidence “ away. It’s a federal crime to tamper with the Mail. They can’t sweep it under the rug now that they were caught.
Maybe UPS is just incompetent. I don't see why spooks would be motivated to go to all the trouble of intercepting the mail just to put it on the wrong shelf in a UPS warehouse when he would obviously have copies anyway.
8ET/7CT
Everyone who has ever filed a lost package complaint with the big two shippers knows they never just find it in some corner and get it to you.
Never
I have, a few times that was literally the case.
Yea me too lol. That have been fucking up a lot since COVID too.
Happened to me once. I told the postal worker I was here for my package, they said it was lost, I handed them my insurance receipt. Then they walked to the back and "found" it. Guess they were hoping to score a free PS4
My point is that shit happens and there are no absolutes. In shipping, sometimes parcels do fall between the cracks and are found eventually. Happened to me just a few weeks ago -- the package got mishandled by a new driver and was bouncing around between distribution centers according to the tracking information while it sat in the same truck for two weeks. When you S&R enough, you'll see it all, like a whole truckload of server gear being delivered to a wrong state. Logistics is so much fun!
I agree, there aren't absolutes in shipping.
I just doubt the story about how the drive was "found" on a desk a few days later.
An envelope doesn't get opened and a tiny little part suddenly disappear to a desk for 2 days.
I just measured a standard USB drive I have. It's approximately 2.25 inches by 5/8th inches.
That shit is tiny as fuck, and on a fast paced industrial scale package moving operation. Hell, something like that would have been ignored or swept up in the continuous operation with OSHA mandated cleaning of walkways to prevent "slips trips and falls"
I'm still suspect on the entire story of a USB drive disappearing and reappearing.
Either it was a UPS employee who "found" the USB drive after media attention, or tucker paid off somebody to plant a story for him.
Without more evidence we can't be 100% certain, but my personal opinion is Tucker wouldn't pay off somebody to plant a story for him.
You can't prove a negative. But if you believe that with no history of meddling of packages...that he just assumed those documents would be stolen so he could say his texts were being read...you're easily persuaded.
But that lend credence to the argument.
UPS losing a package like this... Only to find it after Tucker mentions that they had copies and calls them out (and you know who we speak of)... Occam's razor starts working against the argument that this was just a series of coincidences.
it lends credence to the theory that THE DOCUMENTS WERE STOLEN by a malicious entity like the deep state. The concept that keeps getting posted here (like it's a /pol op), is that Tucker sent the pages, knowing they would be stolen...as a trap.
It's the foreknowledge of theft that's unbelievable.
I assume Tucker and team had suspicions that they were being spied on based on other "coincidences" they might have noticed over the last few months, so they set up a fake "OCTOBER SURPRISE" to flush out t who is reading his text and email conversations. Hope it worked! Seems like they were found after Tucker said they have copies all over.
No way. That makes me sense why go on air and report it then.
you cast the bait and dangle it to get the fish to bite.
If...the documents were that important, and if...he suspected they would be stolen...why did he send the originals?
FFS! Use your brain!
Guy, Copies WERE sent, not the originals. Tucker still has the originals, OANN has them too. This is not bobulinsky's information, it's from a new source, but corroborated with Bobulinkys data.
https://thedonald.win/p/11PW36GDjT/about-tuckers-lost-then-found-do/
OP is trying to suggest they used mailing the documents as a phishing attempt to ID spooks that are spying on them day and night on their emails, phones, and life.
Surprise its the FBI!
Think of it like a Crazy Ivan.
I made a post to another pede that the flash drive probably contained an encrypted file that had GOTCHA FBI as the text. They opened the file and went OH FUCK we done did it now...
You’re a fucking know it all. What are you 12? Stfu and go ply fallout child.
My Occam's razor argument to that: after everything we've learned about spygate and the dossier and the wiretaps at some point it would be prudent to at least make contingencies based on the assumption that at some point the deep state was going to try something like this.
Maybe this isn't the first time that Tucker has taken this precaution but it's certainly the first time that they caught the deep state red handed.
contingencies are prudent. Things get lost. I make extra copies of my taxes every year. Not because I think someone will steal them.
And every once in a while you throw out a line and something bites.
I don't think Tucker intended to catch the deep state like this... But he's certainly taking the opportunity to call em out now that they're caught.
I can buy that.
is "lost" the same as package was found, torn open with contents missing?
Its either: -get lost packages or -receive package,
never package that was opened and stolen contents, but still delivered
UPS wasn't accused of losing the package. They were accused of the contents of the package gone missing. UPS NOW says they found> the contents of the package.
The people pushing this idea base it on no evidence, and they're all getting it from somewhere.
You're stretching by adding words that aren't there.
That's the point (of the exercise we just did )
The important point to talk about is that someone is reading our texts.
That help?
The former administration was caught red handed spying on media figures. Additionally, the FBI in particular has always had a horrific history with domestic abuse of power per the Church Committee findings. The government doesn't need to be trusted until it is found untrustworthy, but to your point that doesn't provide infinite license for pointless speculation either.
https://thedonald.win/p/11PW36GDjT/about-tuckers-lost-then-found-do/
It's a existencial argument. Like proving that there is no God by not having current evidence that there is one.
A lack of evidence never equates to a lack of existence.
That's specific to location.
Answer these questions. Do the following exist? Bigfoot, the loch ness monster, mermaids?
Well, the giant squid was on that list 50 years ago. Now there's one in the Smithsonian. The point is the squid existed despite a noticeable lack of evidence.
Can't prove something that doesn't exist doesn't exist because a lack of evidence never equates to a lack of existence
Can't prove a negative.
OP's challenge was to prove something that I felt didn't exist...to prove that it didn't exist.
Which is why I used that phrase.
The fact that UPS has not only admitted that the package was tampered with but actually RECOVERED the documents is HUUUUUGE. A lot of people were claiming that the documents never existed and Tucker / his source were just making up the allegations that they had been stolen as a cover. This proves that not only did the documents really exist, but that they really were tampered with in transit.
I would have loved it if they had actually stuffed the package with a stack of someone's butt on the copier.
TUCKED
What sting operation? A sting catches a guilty party in action, proving them guilty.
We don't know who the guilty party is, and have no proof of anything happening.
Your statement is true, but has nothing to do with a shipping accident.
If Tucker thought someone was reading his emails or texts, he might send one with the details, including the tracking number, to test if it gets intercepted.
Likewise, they could have mailed 20 different packages, to test 20 different potential moles.
If true, that's super weak, as it proves nothing. It suggests someone is watching, but confirms nothing (as accidents happen in shipping all the time).
If however he were to design a package riddled with cameras, microphones, trackers, etc, and then we're to reveal that recorded info, THAT would be a sting.
So what has been leaked? And where else was info set?
Or maybe there was a shipping accident.
A high profile case was mailed to an individual. This we know.
We also know the contents of a envelope were taken out in transit. Now on this point I am not sure. If youre going to read shit in transit, why not just open it, copy it and then put it back re-sealed?
If you're a ups dude, and you see yet another destroyed package, you scan it, and toss it in the truck. And then the stuff falls out, looks like junk papers, so another guy hands them to the manager because not his problem... And then big investigation, and they get reunited.
There are many reasons to not want to reveal the fact that you've discovered a leak.
Lol....Biden is afraid of Tucker's package.
Maybe Joe, but not Hunter. I hear he's into that.
Talking about documents that criminalize half a man staggering towards the White House
Mention that these docs are being shipped to you
Wait for them to get stolen
claim they were stolen
let the rats run around talking about this, denying stuff, censoring etc..
mention you have copies
watch rats scramble again
"SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!! You were supposed to get RID of them immediately not hide them! Fuck we're screwed! Just put em back! Say you found em or something!!!"
I think these are the only possibilities:
My hope it was item 3, top KEKs for Tucker if so.
What if they got Mark Rober’d: https://youtu.be/xoxhDk-hwuo
Wouldn’t it be glorious if someone were filmed intercepting it?
That would be a thing of beauty... I love that video!
It can't be 1 because the package was found open with the contents missing.
Also regardless of whether it was intercepted or a mistake now the whole thing can be dumped online anonymously by tucker and they have plausible deniability that the leak did not originate with them.
That would be brilliant
Yeah, definetly covered the bases there--nice 😎
How quickly we forget the heralded placement of these agencies into these distribution centers post 9-11 ...
Apparently the article doesn't say they were found. And it's weird they told journalists "we found it" before they told Tucker.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SollenbergerRC/status/1321858527053467649
I know Sollenberger is a dbag, but so is dailywire/Shapiro
Ryan has the ACB template with the reeeee girl, yeah he lurks here.
Extensive searches don't take merely 12 hours. That isn't even a good attempt at a cover story.
I think a spook intercepted to see what the goods were. Anyone seen Pete Butt Edge Edge lately?
I think he knew he was being monitored. He sent something that was either copied already, or it should have been one of those porch pirate devices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_TSR_v07m0
Would be nice if the USB contained tracking software that installed on the computer of whoever copied it.
I do a lot of mailing and, gotta be honest, from what I've seen I wouldn't be surprised of it turns out the producer tried to fit way, way to much paper into ups's document envelopes. It probably got ripped open in one of the machines and the papers ended up in some mechanical part of their sorting machines. The producer probably though he could save a few bucks (or many bucks, for overnight shipping) by using an envelope instead of sending it as a package.
"If it fits it ships" isn't always true.
I bet it was nothing. Probably a bunch of pages with the middle finger on it. :)
I wonder if the thumb drive was a Trojan horse that if recovered will show who uploaded the contents.
UPS mentioned the sealed package was opened and they had possession of that package. Then they throw “evidence “ away. It’s a federal crime to tamper with the Mail. They can’t sweep it under the rug now that they were caught.
Usually the simplest explanation is the truth. I'm surprised it was found though.
Maybe UPS is just incompetent. I don't see why spooks would be motivated to go to all the trouble of intercepting the mail just to put it on the wrong shelf in a UPS warehouse when he would obviously have copies anyway.