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ModsBanPaleos 4 points ago +17 / -13

No its just Christian. Nothing Judeo about it

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DeadOverRed 1 point ago +17 / -16

Christianity is Judeo. Read the book again.

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ModsBanPaleos 14 points ago +23 / -9

America wasnt founded for jews. It was founded for Christians

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LaPastillaEscarlata 15 points ago +22 / -7

It was founded for all who will MAGA.

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deleted -3 points ago +3 / -6
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theeyeshaveit 6 points ago +7 / -1

Nonsense.

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ModsBanPaleos -6 points ago +1 / -7

Sounds like you need a history lesson low iq wizard

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SnowflakeJuice 4 points ago +5 / -1

Well if you want to get technical, it was founded by Christians who were persecuted by other Christians and recognized the importance of religious freedom

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ModsBanPaleos -3 points ago +1 / -4

Nope wrong

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IceManmdm 8 points ago +8 / -0

I do remember something about the synagogue of Satan

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DeadOverRed 1 point ago +4 / -3

Yes! There are no more Jews- only the synagogue of Satan.

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thewashambro 4 points ago +9 / -5

Not true. We get our moral compass from Jesus and the New Testament not the Old Testament (Torah) and Moses. In Jesus' time, the jews did not agree with what he said, and he changed many of the laws and punishments for sins and crimes. (Abolishment of Kosher, Abolishment of stoning, Mixed cloths allowed, sacrifices etc.) Perhaps, the Jews and Christians have similar values now, but that would mean that the Jews adopted Christian values not the other way around.

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DeadOverRed 13 points ago +13 / -0

Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

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thewashambro 3 points ago +5 / -2

Yes, that is true, but fulfilling the law and scripture meant that many of the previous laws of Moses were twisted and perverted, and they were to be fixed by Jesus. I guess he didn't change the law as much as clarified the law, sorry for the confusion.

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DeadOverRed 3 points ago +3 / -0

In other words, it's not so much that kosher was and stoning was abolished, just that we don't have to do that anymore because we have a perfect sacrifice.

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brtf4vre 3 points ago +3 / -0

ever heard of the 10 commandments?

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thewashambro -2 points ago +2 / -4

Not the same thing. Nowhere in the ten commandments does it mention sacrifices or stoning or kosher. The ten commandments are not laws, they are commandments. The ten commandments teach how to worship god properly and how to act, the laws of Moses were a code of laws. Although Moses' laws were based on the ten commandments, they are not the same, Moses' laws are not applicable to modern christians. Not being rude, but you might want to do some more research.

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SnowflakeJuice 2 points ago +3 / -1

You are missing the picture of what people mean when they say Judeo/ Christian values. There are a few mistakes you are making.

  1. You are focusing on the differences between Christianity and Judaism, without looking at the bigger picture of the world and society that predated Judaism. Yes their are differences between Judaism and Christianity, but they are a world away from society that predated them, and have influenced civilization so heavily, that you have a hard time picturing a society without them.

  2. In Judaism, there is a difference between commandments given to Jews, and Jewish values that are considered fundamental to all of society.

In the Jewish belief, a non-Jew, can be a righteous person even without adhering to all of the commandments. Those additional commandments were not about morality, and where only intended for Jews to adhere to.

The examples you cited, Kosher, Mixed Clothes were never required of society at large. Stoning, is a punishment, not a commandment (not unlike the death penalty), it was only meant to be used during the time of the temple, and even then, very sparingly (based on different interpretations in the Talmud, it averaged either once every 7 years, or once every 70 years).

To summarize, their is a significant difference (at least in Judaism), between the commandments given to the Jewish People, and the moral values of the religion

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thewashambro 0 points ago +2 / -2

it was only meant to be used during the time of the temple

Which the Jews still live in unto this day.

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IceManmdm 1 point ago +4 / -3

I do remember something about the synagogue of Satan