I think it’d be great if I saw a little less “DrUmPf and Orange man bad” only FB feed as much as “LiBTaRdS”.
Believe me...I don’t agree with the views...but if more people would be open to discuss things civilly vs just hard stance out of the gate...we wouldn’t be at this state. I think focusing on principles is key. Individualism over “the greater good/group mentality”.
Likely a minority here on this point, but wanted to share.
I think most people are frustrated he couldn’t articulate our arguments better on the fly. Most of us have spent more time refining our rebuttals. I was really frustrated he couldn’t tear the Commie a new one about critical race theory.
I can totally get onboard with that. That being said, I’ve often found myself sometimes disorganized with my own views simply because I don’t discuss them enough.
With Ol’ beanie boi just starting to swallow that redpill, he gets a pass in my book. He’s subtly pulled the curtain back for thousands of ppl. I think since I started watching him a few months back his sun count on YouTube is up like 300K.
I didn't care about the Vaush dude. But it was good to see what crazy is like.
Know thine enemy.
Yup. Understand others and see if they get to know their way of thinking.
I’m watching the clip on big cities and COVID issues and while it’s not über ideological, I can truly appreciate the civil conversation.
Also...this dude is absolutely reminding me of those super woked dudes we all know and can hardly stand...but I can really appreciate it.
I haven't seen them, and when I heard Tim say that, I thought it was his usual "both sides", blah, blah, nonsense. Are you sure you're not confusing comments hating on what the commie had to say with comments hating on the fact that he had a commie on?
I want Tim to have more commies on. Tim's not a fan of a lot of their communist bullshit. Let him have at them.
Also...agree. Have more ppl on from other sides and get their base to watch to see how good conversation can happen. Change minds. You pull the typical stuff on FB and attack the person/don’t listen...you just get everyone to dig their heels in more.
Talk, respect others views and their right to have opinions (whether they work or not), and always push the rights of the individual and there shouldn’t be any problems.
I’ve seen a fair amount of those but I definitely saw some “fuck tim pool” he gave Vausch or what’re the dudes name was a platform.
granted...I sort by NEW quite a bit so don’t know if they got a lot of traction.
Yeah, it's possible some on our side are picking up some of that whole "platforming" nonsense the Left has been pushing. So far as I'm concerned, it's part and parcel of the war on free speech. Sad to hear any Trump supporters are adopting that rotten way of thinking about speech and communication.
....same goes for Glenn Greenwald and Matt Tabbia
Vosh, Varsh, Vage... whatever his name is... Is kinda a grifter. Tim would do better to grab someone from Jacobin to chit chat about it - someone who is intellectually honest.
Haven’t watched all of it yet...also haven’t seen him before. The clips I’ve seen so far have been actual conversations without attacking each other.
Also...if someone pulls the neo nazi name calling card use it so much it’s really lost it’s potency.
He very quickly labels Tim far-right and goes Godwin Law very early, it was embarrassing that Tim didn't push back against the sophistic bullshit being spewed.
Particularly vs how he grilled the leader of the Proud Boys it was just sad to see how limp Tim's noodle was, he was even unable to define and push back against "critical race theory". It was hard to watch.
If he keeps bringing ppl on with other views he’ll get better at it. I assume Vaush makdkdk or whatever his name is spends more time to telling people they’re wrong. Tim will get better at picking apart arguments if he does it enough.