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posted ago by AgamemnonContingency ago by AgamemnonContingency +16 / -0

Here's the thing with fundamentalist's of ANY religion. You don't get to choose what they consider fundamental. Islam pretty universally considers conversion fundamental, but the way they do it varies widely. Some countries and groups by the sword, others by making it a requirement to do basically anything unless you have enough money to get around it. The same is true for fundamentalist Christianity though, they just have their extremes pegged about roughly where the most "moderate Islamic" countries are. They would have loved to make it the same where you need to be Christian to basically do anything, unless you're rich enough to pay them anyway which is almost as good.

None of this means Christianity is bad, or Christian Voters wanted to see this actually implemented, but you ARE talking about a religious imperative. Wars are regularly fought on less religious basis than this, and while they have moved past war as the tool, you're still looking at something they would rather die than give up on. When the GOP base was centered around the religious right in the 90's, these fundamentalist voices had outsized impact on the party. Even if they pushed away other voters in droves, it was a holy crusade with no one strong enough on the right around to stop them. This is where the "if only economics!" chants started. This gave rise to a schism where the two forces started butting heads and wasting power on each other. And the power of the party waned through the Bush establishment years as they all waged their establishment war.

The savior of the GOP wasn't really lessened fundamentalist Christian voices. As some have pointed out Trump has been really great for them with things like Judiciary and Supreme Court picks. ALL GOP voices lessened through that time as they fought. The "true savior" was the rise of "Woke" politics on the Left. Because as the total power waned, the diehards at both fringes started losing, and the party eventually moderated until Trump could emerge. And despite him allegedly being "literally Hitler!" Trump as an ex-Democrat from the East Coast is a VERY moderate GOP candidate with only his economic stances (and the children of them such as Immigration) being fairly Right wing. Meanwhile the Left has been building a new non-theistic fundamentalist religion in "Wokeness". For awhile it gave them momentum and fervor to push for more as most religions do. But in the early Obama years, it faltered. They had become enough of a force on the Left, that they now faced a Religious Schism. The establishment Democrat's thought they could reign it in, they held the reigns tight and went for things like Obamacare that they thought were small enough steps they could feed it to both the woke and the country, and they would accept it as both enough and not throw it up respectively. They then lost the House.

This set off a chain reaction. Without the power to do what ANY of them wanted, the Woke started seizing it anyway they could. Like a desperate rider clinging to the horse, Democrat's rode it, hoping to bring it back into control in time for elections. This cost them the Senate when Harry Reid decided to go with the Nuclear Option, and we all see the pain a Nuclear Turtle has wrought upon them. The Woke kept getting louder and more violent, with the establishment dragged along with them. This is around when BLM and the early Black-Blocs that would become Antifa emerged to prominence. As they got louder and more violent, they cost more and more power. Eventually it cost them the Presidency, as "basket of deplorables, and other woke power fantasies you can tell yourself at night" became mainstream Democrat talking points.

This was another tipping point. With the Presidency gone, and both chambers of congress in GOP control, the Left had no choice but to go full Woke. Media that was always already biased pushed it out far and wide, and the conflict itself was all blamed on Trump. Everything, from the mundane to the extreme became Orange man bad, Orange man's fault. The GOP also made a blunder, they said "well okay we won, time to go back to normal now!" This half measure cost them the same it cost the Left when they tried to bridge the same opposing gap in 2009. McCain torpedoes Obamacare repeal because "muh replacement not ready" refusing to accept that killing it first is the only way to get Democrat buy in enough to actually make a compromise. The Democrat's as a whole can then feel confident on just holding out until the GOP loses. Then they lose the House. But here the GOP made a Strategic Win out of a Tactical Loss. They gave up and bought in. Many candidates across the the Senate and House are now being measured by their willingness to MAGA. More than enough to cover any weaknesses left by RINO's at least for now.

What is happening right now with the election is crucial to solidifying MAGA as the main voice of the GOP. It's extremely important for everyone that wants to see this to vote for it. If after all of this, Trump is given the complete Big 3 (Big 4 with the Supreme Court picks now as well) again, they won't have half measures anymore. The GOP has been playing by the rules these last few years, while the Democrats have been screaming about and actually changing them when they have the power at every loss. There's nothing left for them if they lose, the field is now fully prepped for a GOP stomping ground BY THE RULES, and they know this. They're possibly counting on this to burn out the Woke in their own party, if they lose fair and square and the Woke start rioting, the Woke's strongest allies will all start standing up for them, and all it will take is stepping away from them to destroy the Woke as a force so that they won't keep losing elections anymore. It's a an extremely simple scenario with pretty low risk for them since they will have an excuse on a silver platter with the election.

Historically if this does happen they will start to break away and try to cash in politically by working with the GOP. They'll be able to excise the Woke power base, while using the loss and blaming it on them as the excuse, saying "we're just trying to make sure the American People still have their voices heard". They'll feign shock and disgust at things like BidenINC or Spygate while trying to keep the worst out of the news as "important for the nation to heal". The woke will be weakened or gone, and Trump will get what he wants which is actual fair negotiations from a position of strength for what he considers MAGA. Even if Democrat's still believe in Woke politics secretly, as a force it will be severely weakened or destroyed. If they keep supporting it, they are now helpless to stop the GOP anyway.

The likeliness of all of this is based on the election of course. If they hold or gain any one of the Big 3, then they may keep the Woke on board. Especially if they gain the entire Big 3, then the Woke have already publicly promised they will change the rules to give them the Supreme Courts, and why would the Democrats care since they've already changed the rules to suit themselves in the House? They may even continue to keep the Woke even if they lose all 3, which would leave them extremely exposed. The problem would be a Religious Schism from the Woke with all the fervor of a Holy War, and even if the Democrats as a whole wanted to try to sell them down the river, they may simply be worried they won't win if they do. If the Schism doesn't happen though, they also kick the can down the road to the next election, which is historically the number one move for a politician to do.

Final thought and TL;DR is that no matter what happens, the BEST and most MAGA thing to do is vote and get as many people onboard as you can. The field is EXTREMELY well-prepped for almost any situation President Trump or the GOP walks into, and the more MAGA votes, the easier MAGA becomes in Term 2. There's also the fact we need to ensure Term 2 first and foremost.

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drinksh2o 3 points ago +3 / -0

TLDMS DR: Too long; didn't Make Sense: Didn't Read.

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AgamemnonContingency [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fair enough dude. There's a TL;DR at the bottom bolded if you don't want the logic chain I used to reach it, to each their own though.