If you read the books, Craig's portrayal is the most book-accurate. He's like a shark. Humorless and dispassionate, calculating but not hateful. What made Connery so great is that he took the character and made it his own. It didn't match the books, but that's okay, because he's Sean Fucking Connery.
I like Craig as Bond and think he's done a fine job with the character to this point. I can no longer take him or the series seriously as entertainment anymore, though, thanks to Craig and the series going full woketard.
I think the wokeness is bad, but I feel the most annoying thing is how bond is now a Marvel superhero.
Connery, Moore, Brosnan etc would do extrasordinary stuff, but nothing like Craig. I liked Casino Royale a bit because it seemed to bring the series back down to earth a little, but it has gone off the rails In QoS onward, and I can’t enjoy any Craig bond.
Some of my (ever changing) top five include From Russia With Love and Goldfinger.
Okay, you've sucked me into this. I could talk and debate Bond all day, lol. I agree with your assessment of Dalton, and I'd probably put him as the #2 closest adaptation of the literary Bond. The only problem with Dalton (and this was the assessment of the Broccoli's too) is that he was just too angry. The literary Bond was cold, efficient, calculating, and very deadly. He was most at home when he was hunting his target. But he was never angry about events. Dalton always seemed to be angry about everything. I think that Pierce Brosnan would have made the perfect Bond, if he'd been given some decent scripts.
But as someone else commented, The literary Bond is not the Bond of film, they truly are two distinct characters, and Connery truly is the best Bond on film. But me being the nerd that I am, I like my literary Bond and have a hard time letting it go.
He's very dry. When M asks him if he can remain emotionally detached in Casino Royale. Or when he says he needs help finding the stationary to Gemma Arterton's character in Quantum of Solace. Funny moments if you appreciate dry humor (which I do).
However I fear in "No Time To Die" He's going to be a beta cuck subservient to a black female 007.
I like Craig’s Bond. ‘Casino Royale’ was a terrific movie and probably my second favorite Bond movie.
I also loved Roger Moore, ‘For Your Eyes Only’ is probably my third favorite. But Sean Connery was King. ‘From Russia With Love’ will always be my favorite Bond movie.
Its interesting that Craig was hired because they wanted a rugged, tough Bond. Not the classic smooth gentleman. Now he's exiting at a time when they want diversity or femininity pushed into the role. Clown world.
Ok so I am a big James Bond fan. I love Sean, but Roger Moore was my generation Bond. He was the funny and bizarre Bond circa. But then later I have to say...Pierce Brosnan was mighty fine...:) I could never get into the Daniel Craig circa...He was just too serious. Bond always had a sense of humor and they took that away.
Pierce Brosnan will always be what I think of when I hear the name James Bond because of the Golden Eye game on N64. Me and my friends would play that every weekend back in the late 90’s.
You should look up how to use emulators. You can pretty easily play an archive of every single N64 game on your computer for just a couple gigabytes of storage.
They're making 007 a woman now I believe right? after Craig. They should just start a new agent, I have nothing against women but it's so weird to adjust a franchise that has been based on a smooth dude having sex with the hottest ladies around , to suddenly be a female agent. Call her 008 or whatever and no one cares, but using the same name for someone with so much history is a bit ridiculous
They're giving the codename/number to a woman. 007 agent will now be a black woman. People are saying it doesn't matter, completely forgetting the massive merchandising that is associated with 007. They're going to alienate millions of people with this.
Too bad for them that we have access to the old James Bond films, the good ones. We, the true fans of James Bond and haters of this woke BS, should be showing the younger generation of the glories of the older James Bond films, to immunize them from the woke monstrosity.
Bonds been off enjoying retirement after shooting down blofelds chopper (with his Walther no less!) and driving off into the sunset with his French girlfriend in his restored DB5.
He comes back in this new movie to find that the position of 007 has been filled by someone new.
Same. I think Dalton actually played a good bond, but his source material sucked, and his movies are very dated.
I can still watch Dr. No, or Goldfimger, and despite all the 50s/60s artifacts, focus on the story, but if I watch a Dalton bond all I hear is a “BEEEEP WARNING YOU ARE WATCHING A 1980s film. BWOOOOP 1980s! 1980s!” It’s distracting and I never feel all the way in. I don’t know how to describe it lol
Hold your horses there li'l filly, Roger Moore was a fine 007, as was Dalton. 007 didn't turn to pure unforgivable shit until Daniel Craig.
The problem with Craig is that his version of Bond is humorless. Bond has a very humorous side, which they eliminated with Craig.
If you read the books, Craig's portrayal is the most book-accurate. He's like a shark. Humorless and dispassionate, calculating but not hateful. What made Connery so great is that he took the character and made it his own. It didn't match the books, but that's okay, because he's Sean Fucking Connery.
I like Craig as Bond and think he's done a fine job with the character to this point. I can no longer take him or the series seriously as entertainment anymore, though, thanks to Craig and the series going full woketard.
Fuck 'em.
100% I've read all the books, and own all the movies. I am a Bond fan for sure. But I won't go see this new movie. It's just woke garbage.
Wait, the convo has been about nearly every President since Lincoln. And you shift to addressing the OP?!?
How dare you! I love this place :)
I think the wokeness is bad, but I feel the most annoying thing is how bond is now a Marvel superhero.
Connery, Moore, Brosnan etc would do extrasordinary stuff, but nothing like Craig. I liked Casino Royale a bit because it seemed to bring the series back down to earth a little, but it has gone off the rails In QoS onward, and I can’t enjoy any Craig bond.
Some of my (ever changing) top five include From Russia With Love and Goldfinger.
Connery apparently respected authors though as he was once overheard talking to a woman reporter in a Glasgow pub exclaiming....
"THE PEN IS MAGNIFICENT"
It's "The pen is mightier!"
Okay, you've sucked me into this. I could talk and debate Bond all day, lol. I agree with your assessment of Dalton, and I'd probably put him as the #2 closest adaptation of the literary Bond. The only problem with Dalton (and this was the assessment of the Broccoli's too) is that he was just too angry. The literary Bond was cold, efficient, calculating, and very deadly. He was most at home when he was hunting his target. But he was never angry about events. Dalton always seemed to be angry about everything. I think that Pierce Brosnan would have made the perfect Bond, if he'd been given some decent scripts.
But as someone else commented, The literary Bond is not the Bond of film, they truly are two distinct characters, and Connery truly is the best Bond on film. But me being the nerd that I am, I like my literary Bond and have a hard time letting it go.
James Bond became what it is(/was) not from the books, though.
Yeup. Pretty sure James was supposed to be blonde, too. But, that's the thing. Craig's portrayal lacks souI.
He isn't humorless.
He's very dry. When M asks him if he can remain emotionally detached in Casino Royale. Or when he says he needs help finding the stationary to Gemma Arterton's character in Quantum of Solace. Funny moments if you appreciate dry humor (which I do).
However I fear in "No Time To Die" He's going to be a beta cuck subservient to a black female 007.
So I'm pretty much done with Bond now.
Once a franchise goes sjw, its curtains for me.
Go woke, go broke. The name's cuck. Beta Cuck.
I also love that they got the Queen to agree to act in a James Bond skit for charity.
I like Craig’s Bond. ‘Casino Royale’ was a terrific movie and probably my second favorite Bond movie.
I also loved Roger Moore, ‘For Your Eyes Only’ is probably my third favorite. But Sean Connery was King. ‘From Russia With Love’ will always be my favorite Bond movie.
I really liked Casino Royale as a novel, and they did a great job bringing it to the screen. Best novel-to-movie Bond movie they've made.
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Its interesting that Craig was hired because they wanted a rugged, tough Bond. Not the classic smooth gentleman. Now he's exiting at a time when they want diversity or femininity pushed into the role. Clown world.
Yes..
Ok so I am a big James Bond fan. I love Sean, but Roger Moore was my generation Bond. He was the funny and bizarre Bond circa. But then later I have to say...Pierce Brosnan was mighty fine...:) I could never get into the Daniel Craig circa...He was just too serious. Bond always had a sense of humor and they took that away.
Pierce Brosnan will always be what I think of when I hear the name James Bond because of the Golden Eye game on N64. Me and my friends would play that every weekend back in the late 90’s.
Just the thought of that game fills me with nostalgia. I really need to find my old N64!
You should look up how to use emulators. You can pretty easily play an archive of every single N64 game on your computer for just a couple gigabytes of storage.
RetroPie
It really doesnt hold up. Remastered version needed!
I loved him too as a Bond. Funny how each generation had their favorite Bond.
I liked him better as Remington Steele with Stephanie Zimbalist.
Brosnan is my generation bond as well, and he is the image I always think of as bond too.
Still very much like Connery, probably would put most of his movies ahead of Brosnan even.
Same. I have sexy memories when I hear the song The Spy Who Loved Me. I never saw Pierce or Daniel or Lady Bond. Sean and Roger are enough for me
That was one of my favorite JB movies. Great song. Ringo Star's wife in that one.
Oh trust me watch Golden Eye. You will love Pierce. Plus Bond has more fancy toys in his Bond Movies.
They're making 007 a woman now I believe right? after Craig. They should just start a new agent, I have nothing against women but it's so weird to adjust a franchise that has been based on a smooth dude having sex with the hottest ladies around , to suddenly be a female agent. Call her 008 or whatever and no one cares, but using the same name for someone with so much history is a bit ridiculous
Agreed. They shouldn’t make Bond into a woman. That is ridiculous. They can certainly make movies about a female agent set in the same universe.
But if they make Bond into a woman, the longest running franchise in movie history will come to a crashing end.
Its done
They're giving the codename/number to a woman. 007 agent will now be a black woman. People are saying it doesn't matter, completely forgetting the massive merchandising that is associated with 007. They're going to alienate millions of people with this.
They don't care about the franchise or millions of dedicated fans, its only about molding the minds of the new generations
Too bad for them that we have access to the old James Bond films, the good ones. We, the true fans of James Bond and haters of this woke BS, should be showing the younger generation of the glories of the older James Bond films, to immunize them from the woke monstrosity.
But I bet she still manipulates women into the bedroom for sex.
That’s what the character appears to be.
Bonds been off enjoying retirement after shooting down blofelds chopper (with his Walther no less!) and driving off into the sunset with his French girlfriend in his restored DB5.
He comes back in this new movie to find that the position of 007 has been filled by someone new.
And I predict no one will watch it
Who would have guessed .380 ACP would be more powerful than a Stinger missile launcher... That was hilarious
After her it will be a tranny 007. Then a pedophile 007. Etc.
They've tried to make female Bonds, with Angelica and Charlize...I liked Salt but it didn't make franchise numbers.
Female BOnd will win an Oscar and kill the franchise.
So are we all in agreement that Tomorrow Never Dies with the RC drill-bot torpedo was utter rubbish?
Well, it gets points for portraying the media as the true enemy. Points off for portraying China as an innocent victim, though.
Tomorrow Never Dies was a little over the top, but it is awesome in its own way if you don't expect it to be a serious movie.
More appropriate for our time really, a power mad media mogul trying to start a war for the sake of his media empire. Sound familiar?
Same. I think Dalton actually played a good bond, but his source material sucked, and his movies are very dated.
I can still watch Dr. No, or Goldfimger, and despite all the 50s/60s artifacts, focus on the story, but if I watch a Dalton bond all I hear is a “BEEEEP WARNING YOU ARE WATCHING A 1980s film. BWOOOOP 1980s! 1980s!” It’s distracting and I never feel all the way in. I don’t know how to describe it lol
The first soyboy Bond.
Bond. Soy Bond
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