In another article published by NIH on this subject, they claim the bacteria magically appeared because the flu virus killed these cells or the others and damaged bronchi. WUT?
The Spanish flu caused a cytokine storm, which ended up suppressing the immune system enough to make people more susceptible to bacterial infection. Since there were no antibiotics at the time, this was a serious problem. Bacterial pneumonia just happens to be one of the deadlier infections, so most people died of that (After an opening was made by the flu).
One of the issues with bacteria is it's present all the time, which makes it hard to track where said bacteria came from.
“The examination of recut lung tissue sections from 1918–1919 influenza case material revealed, in virtually all cases, compelling histologic evidence of severe acute bacterial pneumonia“
Last time I checked, viruses are different than bacteria. Hmm
The study shows no claim that it was masks but I can agree with the sentiment that breathing into a mask for hours in a dark damp spot can cause bacteria build up and breathing that in could potentially have its consequences.
any scientists able to explain why spanish flu (a virus) resulted in bacterial pneumonia while COVID (also a virus) results in viral pneumonia? Or does COVID cause bacterial AND viral pneumonia but we just have the antibiotics to destroy bacterial pneumonia now?
Essentially it works like this, as the scientists have said a million times: Masks don't protect you from covid, they protect you from spreading covid.
So if it's protecting you from spreading it, where is the viral load going when you're wearing a mask? Right back in you. The viral load of the virus has a very substantial affect on how bad you react to it. Only get the bare minimum of what's needed? You'll most likely fight it off fairly quickly. But now with the mask, the virus is creating duplicates that you would normally blow most out your airways so it can infect others. But instead of it leaving your body, you're inhaling more of the virus, the virus is attaching itself to even more of your cells, and now your body has to fight off 20 times the amount of infected cells it needed to if you just let that shit exit your body
The reality is, the masks don't really protect you from spreading it either. Instead of 40% going airborne, 25% goes airborne (even more with the shitty cotton tshirt masks), but when indoors that 25% adds up quickly, so the air is full of the virus no matter what. but now instead of the virus leaving your body, you're sucking up more of the virus because of your mask.
Even more reality: We're probably already at herd immunity levels. The antibody tests suck donkey dick and they aren't reliable, but more than 40% of the population probably already got the virus. Meaning it's not nearly as deadly as people assume, even with the fake padded numbers
It's all a shame, it was political from day 1. They tried to ruin the economy, they did a good job. But luckily Trump caught on quickly and most of the republican states reopened and starting building the economy back up. It will still take awhile to recover, especially as long as New York and California continue to be cucked as those are a big portion of our economy, but we need to stop with the fear mongering and get back to fucking normal ASAP. We know enough about this virus now to know the fear mongering was a political move to try and hurt Trump. They didn't care how many Americans got hurt by the shutdown economy, they just cared about Trump looking bad from it.
There is a butthurt shill following me around with multiple accounts and downvoting everything. Check post history if you are up to it. https://thedonald.win/u/Trunpgood/ -- is one account, there are others. Pathetic scum does what pathetic scum does.
He also coauthored this paper. Published in the New England Journal of Medicine that states this will be no worse than the flu. Published in February of 2020. Skip to paragraph 3.
Their grand cult leader openly calls it SARS and mentions Wuhan China has the origin yet those multiple stated facts all go in one ear out the other to the scamdemic worshiping psychos.
But highly prestigious people can't lie and be partisan though!!
Wow, cloth masks don't stop viruses, something we've known for years! A shocker I tell you! It's not like there was a plethora of medical journals and data about masks not working for influenza before COVID or anything!
As somone who had covid19, I could have told you this. The part where people get shortness of breath is when the lungs are infected. you then either are strong enough to survive or not and die.
Remember to keep safe people. Put a mask on that is not airtight, and creates a warm damp dark place directly in front of your respiratory tract.
I wear a mask in my car alone. While I sleep. All the damn time!
/s
We have an old dude, 80-ish, who takes his daily walk outdoors, around our neighborhood, by himself, and wears a mask the whole time. It's so sad.
I see people, daily, wearing a mask driving alone. Or running on the trail alone wearing one. It truly is sad.
We call them maskurbators
Branch covidians
Genius, pede. Sheer genius.
Cant beliebe ive gone 8 months of covid and only now am hearing maskurbator
Every time I see this... I wonder... Who let their special needs patients out without supervision? Someone please save them!
I wear mine in the shower.. I think I may have pnemonia! lol
I made a smaller mask for my mask because my mask should have the same protection that I have.
Gotta make sure there’s good bacteria in front of yer mouth to keep out the COVID!
Yup, it's especially nice for CO2 and Oxygen loving bacteria to work together! They love it!
I might leave the metal plate bent wrong... oopsies...
SAUCE!
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/10/fact-check-fauci-paper-does-not-support-claim-masks-killed-spanish-flu-patients.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/
This is a pro-mask, pro-fauci, anti-Huber gibberish.
Archetypical "fact-check": Did masks kill people in the 1918 flu? No, it wasn't masks, it was bacteria!
In another article published by NIH on this subject, they claim the bacteria magically appeared because the flu virus killed these cells or the others and damaged bronchi. WUT?
The Spanish flu caused a cytokine storm, which ended up suppressing the immune system enough to make people more susceptible to bacterial infection. Since there were no antibiotics at the time, this was a serious problem. Bacterial pneumonia just happens to be one of the deadlier infections, so most people died of that (After an opening was made by the flu).
One of the issues with bacteria is it's present all the time, which makes it hard to track where said bacteria came from.
this Pede breaks it down perfectly
Thank you!
Link to the paper coauthored by Fauci (and an archived version of it)
Predominant Role of Bacterial Pneumonia as a Cause of Death in Pandemic Influenza: Implications for Pandemic Influenza Preparedness
David M.. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, Anthony S. Fauci
The Journal of Infectious Diseases, Volume 198, Issue 7, 1 October 2008, Pages 962–970,
https://doi.org/10.1086/591708
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/198/7/962/2192118
https://archive.is/f7MaK
Thank you.
“The examination of recut lung tissue sections from 1918–1919 influenza case material revealed, in virtually all cases, compelling histologic evidence of severe acute bacterial pneumonia“
Last time I checked, viruses are different than bacteria. Hmm
The mask cause bacterial pneumonia. They do more harm than good
The study shows no claim that it was masks but I can agree with the sentiment that breathing into a mask for hours in a dark damp spot can cause bacteria build up and breathing that in could potentially have its consequences.
any scientists able to explain why spanish flu (a virus) resulted in bacterial pneumonia while COVID (also a virus) results in viral pneumonia? Or does COVID cause bacterial AND viral pneumonia but we just have the antibiotics to destroy bacterial pneumonia now?
I believe they’re referencing the use of masks. The masks were probably a breeding ground for pneumonia.
It is likely that masks don’t work. So, you’re going to catch the Spanish flu. Once you get that, your mask is giving you pneumonia.
Masks work at capturing bacteria, but not viruses, due to the huge difference in size. The wet mask becomes a breeding ground for the bacteria.
Essentially it works like this, as the scientists have said a million times: Masks don't protect you from covid, they protect you from spreading covid.
So if it's protecting you from spreading it, where is the viral load going when you're wearing a mask? Right back in you. The viral load of the virus has a very substantial affect on how bad you react to it. Only get the bare minimum of what's needed? You'll most likely fight it off fairly quickly. But now with the mask, the virus is creating duplicates that you would normally blow most out your airways so it can infect others. But instead of it leaving your body, you're inhaling more of the virus, the virus is attaching itself to even more of your cells, and now your body has to fight off 20 times the amount of infected cells it needed to if you just let that shit exit your body
The reality is, the masks don't really protect you from spreading it either. Instead of 40% going airborne, 25% goes airborne (even more with the shitty cotton tshirt masks), but when indoors that 25% adds up quickly, so the air is full of the virus no matter what. but now instead of the virus leaving your body, you're sucking up more of the virus because of your mask.
Even more reality: We're probably already at herd immunity levels. The antibody tests suck donkey dick and they aren't reliable, but more than 40% of the population probably already got the virus. Meaning it's not nearly as deadly as people assume, even with the fake padded numbers
It's all a shame, it was political from day 1. They tried to ruin the economy, they did a good job. But luckily Trump caught on quickly and most of the republican states reopened and starting building the economy back up. It will still take awhile to recover, especially as long as New York and California continue to be cucked as those are a big portion of our economy, but we need to stop with the fear mongering and get back to fucking normal ASAP. We know enough about this virus now to know the fear mongering was a political move to try and hurt Trump. They didn't care how many Americans got hurt by the shutdown economy, they just cared about Trump looking bad from it.
Also: Fuck Abbott, he's a cuck
Your immune system gets bogged down fighting the virus, and then the bacteria takes advantage of the opportunity.
No, it doesn't simply because it doesn't exist.
I just call it cold-19.
This is the correct answer.
Yet, the dimwits even here will perpetuate this obvious psyop. Fucking pathetic.
Prove it.
Not sure why the downvotes?
I would like to see proof as well.
There is a butthurt shill following me around with multiple accounts and downvoting everything. Check post history if you are up to it. https://thedonald.win/u/Trunpgood/ -- is one account, there are others. Pathetic scum does what pathetic scum does.
Probably breathing in mass amounts of bacteria that's collected on your face while you're immune system is working hard on something else
I believe this is the answer. Breathing in exhaled air for a prolonged period of time cannot possibly be healthy.
Yeah, rebreathing carbon dioxide starves your brain of oxygen. They're making you breathe in your whole "carbon footprint" and kill your brain cells.
Did you know that a dirty cpap could make you sick? - William Shatner.
I think it’s because your immune system is caught up fighting the virus so the bacteria sets in and ends up killing them.
But hey I’m just a chef lol
He also coauthored this paper. Published in the New England Journal of Medicine that states this will be no worse than the flu. Published in February of 2020. Skip to paragraph 3.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?fbclid=IwAR3oGiNGfynZ7UvdN4pQhPuGlQRvkpXWekYNAZ0rgpA6WekMRs4-Sb9UI9E
Their grand cult leader openly calls it SARS and mentions Wuhan China has the origin yet those multiple stated facts all go in one ear out the other to the scamdemic worshiping psychos.
Several.
But they'll make sure that doesn't go public one dead body or another.
So much of medicine functions incorrectly, I'm surprised most people do not die in their 20s or 30s.
Oh geez can't you drumpftards give it up already? That was like 100 years ago. How long are you going to try to milk the past? Drrrr
As long as BLM does?
I feel way less clean reusing a mask and breathing recycled air than facing the population in free air.
I'm not even remotely surprised.
And pneumonia is what kills most 'COVID' patients.
Probably from solders returning home from WW1 and wearing masks in tight, unventilated spaces?
But highly prestigious people can't lie and be partisan though!!
Wow, cloth masks don't stop viruses, something we've known for years! A shocker I tell you! It's not like there was a plethora of medical journals and data about masks not working for influenza before COVID or anything!
Haha using a website as a hashtag.
American dentists associatiln is going apeshit. People's teeth are rotting out from these goddamn masks.
I jokingly referred to the masks as humid Petri dishes months ago, and suspected they might be about spreading it more.
That... was frighteningly spot on
Be sure to get your pneumonia shots, pedes. It protects from bacterial pneumonia.
Fatality rate for bacterial pneumonia = ~30%
Fatality rate for Covid 19 = ~0.03%
Any questions?
As somone who had covid19, I could have told you this. The part where people get shortness of breath is when the lungs are infected. you then either are strong enough to survive or not and die.