Okay, what the heck is going on with the signing in dem videos? why are the deaf not using CC? why is he, and every other interpreter, looking as silly as possible? i know, horrible, but why is it a left/right thing too? never seen one for Trump or any other repub. Does that mean dems carry the deaf vote?
Well deaf culture has been around for a long time, probably longer than LGBT.
Alexander Graham Bell (yes, the inventor of the phone) was the one who thought being deaf is akin to being dumb and he even insulted his own wife, who was deaf. He invented oralism, a language where deaf people would just talk instead of using their hands and whenever a deaf person use their hands, they'd get slapped with a ruler or a broom, or go outside and stand in the rain. Some even got burned because of that. Due to oralism, education among the deaf community has decreased their intelligence.
If it wasn't for deaf culture, we won't have stuff we've come to know today like the huddle in football and the umpire signs (strike, out, safe). They all came from deaf culture.
The huddle was because deaf football players know sign language so when you are trying to relay the playcall to other players, the opposing deaf team would see you talking about it and plan accordingly, hence the huddle so they can talk, while hiding their signs from the opposing team.
The umpire signs were created due to a deaf baseball player named Dummy Hoy. He couldn't hear the umpire saying strike or out so he asked the umpire to do signs so he will know what is happening.
Also fun fact: Hillary Clinton's Clinton Foundation is one of the few people/organizations who encouraged a lot of deaf people to get cochlear implants, a fact that has been forgotten by many deaf people and I've always pointed that out for them and they'd go, "So what?! I still love Hillary!" and they're the same ones who say they are against CIs.
Another fun fact: Martha's Vineyard used to have all deaf residents living there until the hearing people moved there and eventually pushed the deaf residents out until it's now fully hearing residents.
Subtitles are here now thanks to the deaf community and I've been told this from many hearing people who uses subtitles, "Thank God for subtitles because I'm going deaf soon and I can continue watching shows/movies" or "Subtitles is great because sometimes when I'm listening to the movie and it'd often go soft/quiet/loud and I can't make out what the person's saying but the subtitles said it so I don't have to go back and try to make out what the person just said" and so on.
That's fine if you think CI should be required, however you are mistaken if you thought 99% of deaf people would be able to hear. My deaf friend got CI and she couldn't hear shit. Instead, she got severe headaches for a long time. Had operation 3 times to fix the CI issue but at the end, she opted to have it removed. Once it got removed, her headaches went away completely.
CI doesn't benefit ALL deaf people like you claim it does. I'm against CI, in case if you haven't noticed this yet because yes, it takes away deaf culture. FYI, deaf culture is fading out, thanks to the doctors for their aggressive encouragement to have parents of deaf children to get CIs once their kids are born. If parents decline, the doctor will shame them, saying their kid(s) will always be treated as an invalid individual for the rest of their lives.
Finally, another fun fact. When you learn American Sign Language or you've started losing hearing, you've become a part of Deaf Culture! What affects us now will affect you later in the future when your hearing goes, so I'd trend carefully here!
You are a very passionate person and seem quite knowledgeable on the subject.
I think the overall point was being frustrated with people who choose to avoid treatments that could work just for an "easy ride", ignoring of course that being deaf or mute or disabled in any way is not an easy ride.
If a treatment is right for people, they should consider taking it. Not staying disabled for the sake of being disabled and the points they get for it by people, you know?
And if the treatment doesn't work, they shouldn't be shamed for not being able to hear or talk or see. We can help people. That's fine and good and a part of our foundational values
Would you think CIs is the right treatment for me, who have been deaf pretty much my whole life and that's a little over 40 years?
That means I'll be training my brain to understand the vibrations being sent to my lobes and it may take me 20 years or longer to finally understand what's being "said"? Maybe never, seeing how hearing aids didn't work for me and I started wearing them when I was a baby and wore them everyday until I turned 21 yr old and eventually chucked them out. For 21 years, it never worked for me.
CI's isn't perfect. I've seen a lot of deaf people who got CI's either when they were a baby or later in their adult life and they said it didn't work out the way they expected it to.
It's quite rare to find someone who said the CI's is a success for them. I've met some who said it's a success for them then I asked them if they can use the phone, listen to a movie at the theater without subtitles, carry a conversation without using sign language AND not reading lips? They said meekly, "No..." so that's not what I call a success.
I've gotten used to being deaf for a long time so do you honestly think I'd jump at the opportunity to have half of my head cut open to implant a CI and be told, "It may work. It may not work but we'll give it a try and see what happens." ? If it was something like I've suddenly became deaf as recent as last year then I may be interested in getting CIs because I'm sure I'd like to be able to hear again, even if it will be effective about 50% of the time.
I've been deaf my whole life and I've gotten used to it. Honestly I'm fine with who I am so why bother being able to hear about 20% of the time, more or less, and risk having scarring and possible brain damage/severe headaches/vertigo?
If it doesn't work then I'd have it taken out of my head, which will then leave an ugly scar on my head then I'll have people asking me what happened to my head? Did I get into a car accident or have someone bash my head open?
Are you also fine with the doctor forcing parents to have their kids put on CIs and if not, they'd be ridiculed by the doctor and maybe the doctor's staff? This actually happened to my deaf friends who have 4 deaf kids and each time they had a baby, the doctor forced them to have their kid be put on CIs. They have had 4 DIFFERENT doctors and 4 DIFFERENT doctors said the same thing to them. Even one held their baby "hostage" for a week because the doctor refused to let them leave the hospital if their kid wasn't going to get CIs. My friends threatened to sue the doctor so the doctor gave up the baby and let them go home.
At this point, CIs may appear to be a "perfect" solution or even a better solution over hearing aids, but it's nowhere close to being perfect. MAYBE better than hearing aids but I wouldn't know as I don't have CIs and honestly, I'll never will get it, even if CI technology has finally gotten to the point where it works effectively 85% of the time.
I wanted a CI, but my anatomy wouldn't allow it. Being hard of hearing isn't all bad, either. I probably only hear a third of what everyone around me says and only a third of THAT is actually worth hearing! :D
BRO. If you aren't deaf or hard of hearing, it's really challenging to understand. It is a disability, but it's one with its own language, communication approach, and tools. It's a culture whether you agree with that or not. A culture full of really intelligent people who are interesting af and lead awesome lives.
I understand where you are coming from but those people you were referring to are self-entitled dumb fucks who also annoys me.
Deaf culture is real, it has been around since 1800's but there are stupid people like the ones I mentioned to you, takes it to a whole new level because they felt they're owed everything, just like the black people and their reparations.
I'm not one of those people. Think of them as millennials but deaf.
As for "Don't let it stop you from succeeding", I never let anyone stop me from succeeding. I have a college degree in I.T. and a couple of I.T. certs, been using computers since I was 7 years old and I'm really good at what I do.
However, I applied to over 1,000 jobs in my lifetime and NOT one was willing to hire me because of my deafness.
When I had an preliminary interview done over email, I don't let them know I'm deaf so it went like this:
We talk back and forth and they're gushing over my skills and they're saying they'd love to have me work for them. They invite me to do a phone job interview. I accept but I had to let them know, as courtesy, that I'm deaf and when we do the phone interview, it will be like this - there will be a "man in the middle" (the relay operator) and they will be conveying our conversation for us.
Doesn't sound like an issue but once they find out I'm deaf, they put me on hold so they can talk to their boss/supervisor/co-worker or whatever.
They come back to me and say this, "You know what? I'm really sorry but my boss had just informed me that while we were having this conversation, he had already hired someone to fill in the position so we will retain your resume on file for 6 months then after that, you're more than welcome to apply! We'd love to have you aboard but I'm really sorry!"
If you thought this happened once, you are sadly mistaken. I have heard this "canned" response from over half of the jobs I've applied to. ALL of it came from when I LET THEM KNOW I'M DEAF. The rest? Either wasn't good enough for them to consider me or I've switched my approach from not telling them up front that I'm deaf to telling them up front that I'm deaf. That part most certainly didn't work at all.
I never let them stop me, however when they give me an excuse, that's when the opportunity stops right there for me. This is why I have yet to start my career job in I.T. since graduating from college over 15 years ago, all because no one want to give me a fair chance to prove myself. This is also why I hate "Diversity" because if this is true, then I'd have a job, yet I don't so when a company I've applied to in the past, embraces diversity, I know they're lying.
And if you think about it, if people actually gave deaf people a fair chance at proving themselves and having them employed for a large chunk of their lives like me, we'd not be on disability income, collecting $$ from your paycheck. I hate it but how can we survive if we don't have jobs? There are over 1 million of deaf people living in America and pretty much 90% of them are on disability income (social security benefits) because no one will hire us.
This is why I believe in Trump because I am tired of surviving off disability income, which is fixed all the time, rather than having a decent pay like a salaried job that I've envisioned myself doing when I graduated from college. That dream is pretty much gone and I'm in a reality I didn't envision myself being in.
Yeah there was actually a school for the blind in one of my old towns near my home. I know deaf is not synonymous with blind but it was very interesting how many blind people were crossing streets and standing in line at stores. They were frequently in large groups too. I can imagine how a subculture can grow up in a group with a disability, especially when it affects the size of a person's available pool of social interactions. If 80% of humans around you act awkwardly and avoid contact with you, but you have easy and painless communication with others who can relate to you, of course there would be some differences there.
I don't (necessarily) see that as a victim culture thing although it might lend itself to that. People are either empowered and demonstrate a triumphant spirit, or they're stuck in a victimhood mentality and hold themselves back.
What's even more ridiculous is the videos on reddit of sign language interpreters at rock concerts jumping around an aggressively gesturing the song at the crowd, most of whom don't even have a clear line of sight.
LOL.... Sorry you're deaf, But if you are rock and roll just isn't for you.
And you are right about people choosing to be deaf. My adoptive sister is literally retarded and has all kinds of issues including being mostly deaf.
She has a hearing aid that will let her hear, but she chooses not to wear it. She went through school failing upwards the whole way, Not even being able to hear what the teachers were saying. And no one made her wear it.
They just passed her from one grade to the next without even caring if she learned anything along the way... Spoiler: She didn't.
I'm deaf and I do enjoy music in general except for Rap and Hip Hop.
Oh well.
I don't wear hearing aids anymore because I can't understand a thing that's being said. It's just basically static noise being sent into my ear, to the point where I can't decipher what it is. So why bother? I just toss my hearing aid out and I've been enjoying life this far without being able to hear.
As for your sister, it sounds like she went to a lousy school who don't really care about her. That's the sad state of education today for people with special needs: they don't care about you if you have special needs because they're after the money they get from the state.
I'm thankful for going to one of the best schools in the USA that actually care for people like me, otherwise, I'd be voting for Biden because I wouldn't be educated enough to decide for myself.
There are a lot of deaf people with average to poor education who are voting for Biden and there's like over 750,000 right now in America.
I obviously voted for Trump, probably a rare sight to see among the deaf community.
You freaking keep on keeping on, man. I'm fairly embarrassed by the anti-deaf comments on this post.... who would've thought that's actually a thing?!?
To be fair, while deaf people cannot hear much of the music, they can still feel the music from such powerful speakers. And not everyone is completely 100% deaf, sound can be muffled to the point they effectively may as well be in society, but can still hear a bit.
True that. In college 2 years ago I had an english assignment that was just cucked. I was given options. I could research and discuss climate changes effect on the spread of disease, the benefits of abortion, the impact cochlear implants have on the deaf community. I remember there were 2 other options that were also fucked.
I chose cochlear due to it being the least retarded thing to research and talk about. I could at least learn something interesting that actually exists.
I did of course piss off the liberal teacher by taking the position of: Its a good thing, deaf culture can and should die off. Who gives a fuck about it. Children should be raised with the ability to hear, even if its slightly weaker. If every deaf person receives implants and a few decades from now every deaf person dies of old age and with them their entire culture, I say that is a good thing.
Should have done benefits of abortion, but written from a Moloch Satanist perspective for maximum triggering. Then claimed religious persecution if they said you were trolling, never admitting that you were in fact trolling.
Any young pedes who need a start on this haughty endeavor, here is an introductory paragraph you can use to set the stage for what will likely be the most uncomfortable A your teacher will ever give.
“There are many reasons free and unrestricted abortions are good and needed in our society that are often discussed in the heated debates that surround the topic. In favor of it there are privacy rights, autonomy rights, and the seminal philosophical defense written by JJ Thompson which successfully defended the practice, even while granting the premise that the fetus is a human life. Thompson’s provoking thoughts experiments, such as The Violinist, have echoed through the decades as the most cogent and undeniable defenses of the sacred right to choose. On the wrong side of the debate you have misogynists, the uneducated, and those seeking to enforce their archaic religious beliefs in a society that values the separation of church and state. It is possible this separation is why the Molochian defense has garnered so little attention, despite addressing what is arguably the most tangible benefit of the procedure. The worship of Moloch, also known as Baal, was an ancient Canonnite practice which was banned by the Old Testament in the same Book of Leviticus that is the source of homophobia, transphobia, and arcane dietary prohibitions. The judeochristian-normative hegemony over morality and ethics that has oppressed the human race for thousands of years has caused Moloch to go nearly forgotten, which angers him. As the “king” in the panthology, Moloch’s power cannot be understated and his displeasure can be felt to this day. While Moloch was unduly villainized throughout the Dark Ages, the benefits of his worship include favorable climate conditions, fertility, and life. Of course, the issues of falling birth rates and breakneck climate change may seem unrelated to the banning of abortion, but the fact is that they are inextricably linked to one another through the powers of Moloch”
Then proceed to discuss cannanite panthology, demonization in Leviticus, oppression through the dark ages, falling fertility rates in Molophobic western societies, and the king of all leftist issues: climate change. Throughout the paper, be sure to constantly label Molochians as an unjustly oppressed group. Conclude that the proof is in the pudding and that there is a strong correlation between Molophobia and the existential problems that threaten societies which practice it. Also be sure to note that Molophobic societies have created these problems not only for themselves, but that the effects of their ‘erroneous’ beliefs have been foisted upon the world at large as Moloch favor has turned against us.
i've noticed a sharp increase since covid, though. Everyone from the national level to local, even in canada, is putting this clownshow on the sidebar of every KungFlu stream.
Yes Closed captioning isn't perfect yet, which is why an ASL interpreter is better than closed captioning for quality purposes.
Captioning often get delayed or doesn't show up for some reason. I have had this convo with someone a long time about when they claimed it was for virtue signaling but it's really not. ASL signers on T.V. has been around for maybe 50 years now so it's not something new. They usually have ASL interpreters during crises like hurricanes, floods, fire etc and now for the China Flu.
But for the Biden campaign, THAT is virtue signaling as he's attempting to reach out to the deaf community and AFAIK, it's working. I know quite a lot of deaf people who are voting for Biden while I'm the loner here voting for Trump.
Deaf people have a difficult time reading. A lot of reading depends on knowing what letters and words sound like. The deaf rely 100% on the symbols and easily confuse words that hearing people would never confuse. For instance, I had a deaf acquaintance one time, keep asking me about "Crunch" on a white board. It took me awhile to figure out he meant Church and he was asking me what religion I was. Crunch and Church are virtually the same word to a deaf person but I have never heard of a hearing person mixing the two words up.
That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. A deaf person can't tell the difference between "Crunch" and "Church" while reading? If that's the case, then they are also blind.
Okay, what the heck is going on with the signing in dem videos? why are the deaf not using CC? why is he, and every other interpreter, looking as silly as possible? i know, horrible, but why is it a left/right thing too? never seen one for Trump or any other repub. Does that mean dems carry the deaf vote?
Like, literally
Well they should! American Sign Language only is very euronormative. If they included Ebonics Sign Sign language it would be much les microagressive.
With brail on the booty. Ingenious!
Underrated comment right here
Exactly. Assuming deaf people can't read.
Well deaf culture has been around for a long time, probably longer than LGBT.
Alexander Graham Bell (yes, the inventor of the phone) was the one who thought being deaf is akin to being dumb and he even insulted his own wife, who was deaf. He invented oralism, a language where deaf people would just talk instead of using their hands and whenever a deaf person use their hands, they'd get slapped with a ruler or a broom, or go outside and stand in the rain. Some even got burned because of that. Due to oralism, education among the deaf community has decreased their intelligence.
If it wasn't for deaf culture, we won't have stuff we've come to know today like the huddle in football and the umpire signs (strike, out, safe). They all came from deaf culture.
The huddle was because deaf football players know sign language so when you are trying to relay the playcall to other players, the opposing deaf team would see you talking about it and plan accordingly, hence the huddle so they can talk, while hiding their signs from the opposing team.
The umpire signs were created due to a deaf baseball player named Dummy Hoy. He couldn't hear the umpire saying strike or out so he asked the umpire to do signs so he will know what is happening.
Also fun fact: Hillary Clinton's Clinton Foundation is one of the few people/organizations who encouraged a lot of deaf people to get cochlear implants, a fact that has been forgotten by many deaf people and I've always pointed that out for them and they'd go, "So what?! I still love Hillary!" and they're the same ones who say they are against CIs.
Another fun fact: Martha's Vineyard used to have all deaf residents living there until the hearing people moved there and eventually pushed the deaf residents out until it's now fully hearing residents.
Subtitles are here now thanks to the deaf community and I've been told this from many hearing people who uses subtitles, "Thank God for subtitles because I'm going deaf soon and I can continue watching shows/movies" or "Subtitles is great because sometimes when I'm listening to the movie and it'd often go soft/quiet/loud and I can't make out what the person's saying but the subtitles said it so I don't have to go back and try to make out what the person just said" and so on.
That's fine if you think CI should be required, however you are mistaken if you thought 99% of deaf people would be able to hear. My deaf friend got CI and she couldn't hear shit. Instead, she got severe headaches for a long time. Had operation 3 times to fix the CI issue but at the end, she opted to have it removed. Once it got removed, her headaches went away completely.
CI doesn't benefit ALL deaf people like you claim it does. I'm against CI, in case if you haven't noticed this yet because yes, it takes away deaf culture. FYI, deaf culture is fading out, thanks to the doctors for their aggressive encouragement to have parents of deaf children to get CIs once their kids are born. If parents decline, the doctor will shame them, saying their kid(s) will always be treated as an invalid individual for the rest of their lives.
Finally, another fun fact. When you learn American Sign Language or you've started losing hearing, you've become a part of Deaf Culture! What affects us now will affect you later in the future when your hearing goes, so I'd trend carefully here!
You are a very passionate person and seem quite knowledgeable on the subject.
I think the overall point was being frustrated with people who choose to avoid treatments that could work just for an "easy ride", ignoring of course that being deaf or mute or disabled in any way is not an easy ride.
If a treatment is right for people, they should consider taking it. Not staying disabled for the sake of being disabled and the points they get for it by people, you know?
And if the treatment doesn't work, they shouldn't be shamed for not being able to hear or talk or see. We can help people. That's fine and good and a part of our foundational values
Would you think CIs is the right treatment for me, who have been deaf pretty much my whole life and that's a little over 40 years?
That means I'll be training my brain to understand the vibrations being sent to my lobes and it may take me 20 years or longer to finally understand what's being "said"? Maybe never, seeing how hearing aids didn't work for me and I started wearing them when I was a baby and wore them everyday until I turned 21 yr old and eventually chucked them out. For 21 years, it never worked for me.
CI's isn't perfect. I've seen a lot of deaf people who got CI's either when they were a baby or later in their adult life and they said it didn't work out the way they expected it to.
It's quite rare to find someone who said the CI's is a success for them. I've met some who said it's a success for them then I asked them if they can use the phone, listen to a movie at the theater without subtitles, carry a conversation without using sign language AND not reading lips? They said meekly, "No..." so that's not what I call a success.
I've gotten used to being deaf for a long time so do you honestly think I'd jump at the opportunity to have half of my head cut open to implant a CI and be told, "It may work. It may not work but we'll give it a try and see what happens." ? If it was something like I've suddenly became deaf as recent as last year then I may be interested in getting CIs because I'm sure I'd like to be able to hear again, even if it will be effective about 50% of the time.
I've been deaf my whole life and I've gotten used to it. Honestly I'm fine with who I am so why bother being able to hear about 20% of the time, more or less, and risk having scarring and possible brain damage/severe headaches/vertigo?
If it doesn't work then I'd have it taken out of my head, which will then leave an ugly scar on my head then I'll have people asking me what happened to my head? Did I get into a car accident or have someone bash my head open?
Are you also fine with the doctor forcing parents to have their kids put on CIs and if not, they'd be ridiculed by the doctor and maybe the doctor's staff? This actually happened to my deaf friends who have 4 deaf kids and each time they had a baby, the doctor forced them to have their kid be put on CIs. They have had 4 DIFFERENT doctors and 4 DIFFERENT doctors said the same thing to them. Even one held their baby "hostage" for a week because the doctor refused to let them leave the hospital if their kid wasn't going to get CIs. My friends threatened to sue the doctor so the doctor gave up the baby and let them go home.
At this point, CIs may appear to be a "perfect" solution or even a better solution over hearing aids, but it's nowhere close to being perfect. MAYBE better than hearing aids but I wouldn't know as I don't have CIs and honestly, I'll never will get it, even if CI technology has finally gotten to the point where it works effectively 85% of the time.
Imagine thinking we wouldn't have hand signals without deaf people lol
Seriously, one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here.
Yet you took the time to say this out loud on what appears to be a burner account.
Cool.
I wanted a CI, but my anatomy wouldn't allow it. Being hard of hearing isn't all bad, either. I probably only hear a third of what everyone around me says and only a third of THAT is actually worth hearing! :D
This is so amazing! Thank you for the interesting read!
BRO. If you aren't deaf or hard of hearing, it's really challenging to understand. It is a disability, but it's one with its own language, communication approach, and tools. It's a culture whether you agree with that or not. A culture full of really intelligent people who are interesting af and lead awesome lives.
I understand where you are coming from but those people you were referring to are self-entitled dumb fucks who also annoys me.
Deaf culture is real, it has been around since 1800's but there are stupid people like the ones I mentioned to you, takes it to a whole new level because they felt they're owed everything, just like the black people and their reparations.
I'm not one of those people. Think of them as millennials but deaf.
As for "Don't let it stop you from succeeding", I never let anyone stop me from succeeding. I have a college degree in I.T. and a couple of I.T. certs, been using computers since I was 7 years old and I'm really good at what I do.
However, I applied to over 1,000 jobs in my lifetime and NOT one was willing to hire me because of my deafness.
When I had an preliminary interview done over email, I don't let them know I'm deaf so it went like this:
We talk back and forth and they're gushing over my skills and they're saying they'd love to have me work for them. They invite me to do a phone job interview. I accept but I had to let them know, as courtesy, that I'm deaf and when we do the phone interview, it will be like this - there will be a "man in the middle" (the relay operator) and they will be conveying our conversation for us.
Doesn't sound like an issue but once they find out I'm deaf, they put me on hold so they can talk to their boss/supervisor/co-worker or whatever.
They come back to me and say this, "You know what? I'm really sorry but my boss had just informed me that while we were having this conversation, he had already hired someone to fill in the position so we will retain your resume on file for 6 months then after that, you're more than welcome to apply! We'd love to have you aboard but I'm really sorry!"
If you thought this happened once, you are sadly mistaken. I have heard this "canned" response from over half of the jobs I've applied to. ALL of it came from when I LET THEM KNOW I'M DEAF. The rest? Either wasn't good enough for them to consider me or I've switched my approach from not telling them up front that I'm deaf to telling them up front that I'm deaf. That part most certainly didn't work at all.
I never let them stop me, however when they give me an excuse, that's when the opportunity stops right there for me. This is why I have yet to start my career job in I.T. since graduating from college over 15 years ago, all because no one want to give me a fair chance to prove myself. This is also why I hate "Diversity" because if this is true, then I'd have a job, yet I don't so when a company I've applied to in the past, embraces diversity, I know they're lying.
And if you think about it, if people actually gave deaf people a fair chance at proving themselves and having them employed for a large chunk of their lives like me, we'd not be on disability income, collecting $$ from your paycheck. I hate it but how can we survive if we don't have jobs? There are over 1 million of deaf people living in America and pretty much 90% of them are on disability income (social security benefits) because no one will hire us.
This is why I believe in Trump because I am tired of surviving off disability income, which is fixed all the time, rather than having a decent pay like a salaried job that I've envisioned myself doing when I graduated from college. That dream is pretty much gone and I'm in a reality I didn't envision myself being in.
Yeah there was actually a school for the blind in one of my old towns near my home. I know deaf is not synonymous with blind but it was very interesting how many blind people were crossing streets and standing in line at stores. They were frequently in large groups too. I can imagine how a subculture can grow up in a group with a disability, especially when it affects the size of a person's available pool of social interactions. If 80% of humans around you act awkwardly and avoid contact with you, but you have easy and painless communication with others who can relate to you, of course there would be some differences there.
I don't (necessarily) see that as a victim culture thing although it might lend itself to that. People are either empowered and demonstrate a triumphant spirit, or they're stuck in a victimhood mentality and hold themselves back.
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What's even more ridiculous is the videos on reddit of sign language interpreters at rock concerts jumping around an aggressively gesturing the song at the crowd, most of whom don't even have a clear line of sight.
LOL.... Sorry you're deaf, But if you are rock and roll just isn't for you.
And you are right about people choosing to be deaf. My adoptive sister is literally retarded and has all kinds of issues including being mostly deaf.
She has a hearing aid that will let her hear, but she chooses not to wear it. She went through school failing upwards the whole way, Not even being able to hear what the teachers were saying. And no one made her wear it.
They just passed her from one grade to the next without even caring if she learned anything along the way... Spoiler: She didn't.
I'm deaf and I do enjoy music in general except for Rap and Hip Hop.
Oh well.
I don't wear hearing aids anymore because I can't understand a thing that's being said. It's just basically static noise being sent into my ear, to the point where I can't decipher what it is. So why bother? I just toss my hearing aid out and I've been enjoying life this far without being able to hear.
As for your sister, it sounds like she went to a lousy school who don't really care about her. That's the sad state of education today for people with special needs: they don't care about you if you have special needs because they're after the money they get from the state.
I'm thankful for going to one of the best schools in the USA that actually care for people like me, otherwise, I'd be voting for Biden because I wouldn't be educated enough to decide for myself.
There are a lot of deaf people with average to poor education who are voting for Biden and there's like over 750,000 right now in America.
I obviously voted for Trump, probably a rare sight to see among the deaf community.
Thank you for sharing.
You freaking keep on keeping on, man. I'm fairly embarrassed by the anti-deaf comments on this post.... who would've thought that's actually a thing?!?
Yeah... I don't get all the hate for the interpreters. Not all deaf people are comfortable with CC as well.
To be fair, while deaf people cannot hear much of the music, they can still feel the music from such powerful speakers. And not everyone is completely 100% deaf, sound can be muffled to the point they effectively may as well be in society, but can still hear a bit.
Sign interpreters are retarded though.
True that. In college 2 years ago I had an english assignment that was just cucked. I was given options. I could research and discuss climate changes effect on the spread of disease, the benefits of abortion, the impact cochlear implants have on the deaf community. I remember there were 2 other options that were also fucked.
I chose cochlear due to it being the least retarded thing to research and talk about. I could at least learn something interesting that actually exists.
I did of course piss off the liberal teacher by taking the position of: Its a good thing, deaf culture can and should die off. Who gives a fuck about it. Children should be raised with the ability to hear, even if its slightly weaker. If every deaf person receives implants and a few decades from now every deaf person dies of old age and with them their entire culture, I say that is a good thing.
Should have done benefits of abortion, but written from a Moloch Satanist perspective for maximum triggering. Then claimed religious persecution if they said you were trolling, never admitting that you were in fact trolling.
Any young pedes who need a start on this haughty endeavor, here is an introductory paragraph you can use to set the stage for what will likely be the most uncomfortable A your teacher will ever give.
“There are many reasons free and unrestricted abortions are good and needed in our society that are often discussed in the heated debates that surround the topic. In favor of it there are privacy rights, autonomy rights, and the seminal philosophical defense written by JJ Thompson which successfully defended the practice, even while granting the premise that the fetus is a human life. Thompson’s provoking thoughts experiments, such as The Violinist, have echoed through the decades as the most cogent and undeniable defenses of the sacred right to choose. On the wrong side of the debate you have misogynists, the uneducated, and those seeking to enforce their archaic religious beliefs in a society that values the separation of church and state. It is possible this separation is why the Molochian defense has garnered so little attention, despite addressing what is arguably the most tangible benefit of the procedure. The worship of Moloch, also known as Baal, was an ancient Canonnite practice which was banned by the Old Testament in the same Book of Leviticus that is the source of homophobia, transphobia, and arcane dietary prohibitions. The judeochristian-normative hegemony over morality and ethics that has oppressed the human race for thousands of years has caused Moloch to go nearly forgotten, which angers him. As the “king” in the panthology, Moloch’s power cannot be understated and his displeasure can be felt to this day. While Moloch was unduly villainized throughout the Dark Ages, the benefits of his worship include favorable climate conditions, fertility, and life. Of course, the issues of falling birth rates and breakneck climate change may seem unrelated to the banning of abortion, but the fact is that they are inextricably linked to one another through the powers of Moloch”
Then proceed to discuss cannanite panthology, demonization in Leviticus, oppression through the dark ages, falling fertility rates in Molophobic western societies, and the king of all leftist issues: climate change. Throughout the paper, be sure to constantly label Molochians as an unjustly oppressed group. Conclude that the proof is in the pudding and that there is a strong correlation between Molophobia and the existential problems that threaten societies which practice it. Also be sure to note that Molophobic societies have created these problems not only for themselves, but that the effects of their ‘erroneous’ beliefs have been foisted upon the world at large as Moloch favor has turned against us.
i've noticed a sharp increase since covid, though. Everyone from the national level to local, even in canada, is putting this clownshow on the sidebar of every KungFlu stream.
Imagine the sheer number of man-hours wasted on this bogus "pandemic." What a fucking sham, people need to hang
after rightful conviction, i agree. this is treason.
Yes Closed captioning isn't perfect yet, which is why an ASL interpreter is better than closed captioning for quality purposes.
Captioning often get delayed or doesn't show up for some reason. I have had this convo with someone a long time about when they claimed it was for virtue signaling but it's really not. ASL signers on T.V. has been around for maybe 50 years now so it's not something new. They usually have ASL interpreters during crises like hurricanes, floods, fire etc and now for the China Flu.
But for the Biden campaign, THAT is virtue signaling as he's attempting to reach out to the deaf community and AFAIK, it's working. I know quite a lot of deaf people who are voting for Biden while I'm the loner here voting for Trump.
It's always very cool to read the POVs from people with uncommon perspectives. I learned a lot from your comments, thanks deaf pede
How did they sign him saying trzynmanapama or whatever it was? How do they deal with Biden’s general slurring and incoherence? I really want to know!
I posted this a while ago: https://twitter.com/BarbMorgenroth/status/1310211699081973760
He doesn't look like a fluent signer but basically, his response is pretty much on point.
I have yet to see an interpreter making an attempt to sign or at least fingerspell that trumin whatever, but then again, I don't watch Biden.
Wait 'til the usual idiots start complaining that the signers are not 'diverse enough'
Then you'll start seeing a proper clown show with them all clamouring to have the signer with the most victim points.
A blind transexual black muslim quadriplegic with no arms in a wheelchair. Calling it now.
Deaf people have a difficult time reading. A lot of reading depends on knowing what letters and words sound like. The deaf rely 100% on the symbols and easily confuse words that hearing people would never confuse. For instance, I had a deaf acquaintance one time, keep asking me about "Crunch" on a white board. It took me awhile to figure out he meant Church and he was asking me what religion I was. Crunch and Church are virtually the same word to a deaf person but I have never heard of a hearing person mixing the two words up.
I can see that. They're close enough in text to see the mix-up.
It would be incredibly uncanny to instantaneously swap consciousness for a time with someone who was born deaf.
To not have my inner voice, my sense of self, my thoughts would be uncanny. It would be really weird. It's something truly hard to imagine.
I have read that those born deaf have an inner voice that is less parsed as audible and more parsed as gestural.
I would have some trouble with that for sure
That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. A deaf person can't tell the difference between "Crunch" and "Church" while reading? If that's the case, then they are also blind.
Deaf people can read.
Can you imagine trying to understand Biden subtitles?
I imagine the ASL of these “rallies” contains a lot of signs for: unintelligible; “yadda yadda yadda”; & this is ridiculous, y’all- Trump 2020.
I really wish we could have an interpreter to interpret the interpreter interpreting Biden on here
A meme I expected to see but never got made was the sign language person going into fast-forward overdrive when biden has his slurring gaffs
Don't do this to me! I need a link!
Can you imagine trying to understand biden with sign language👉🤪
Until this moment I was 100% convinced that was someone acting like a tard for their livestream.
What's even the point, we've had closed captions for half a century.