It's time to stop playing nice. It's time to stop being scared.
We must overthrow the deep state public school brainwashing fabout the “indivisible Union” and the moral high ground of those who killed to preserve it. Individualism, laissez faire economics, and freedom are portrayed as unsophisticated, racist, and backward, while socialism, authoritarianism, speech control (aka thought control) and centralization are made to seem progressive and inevitable.
There is nothing wrong with one political faction wishing to peacefully withdraw from another political faction with whom there can be found no common ground.
i agree. we should split the states and have two presidents. We can still make deals with eachtoher etc
Let the Western 3 states have their utopia. Build a yuge wall.
We are clearly a nation divided between polar opposites. There are violent revolutionary communists and capitalists. There is no common culture or ideology. Dissolving the union is the only way that human freedom can survive. All other scenarios will lead to an existential war amongst the people until one side or the other is completely purged from the nation. And given the trend since around 1912, it is the communist incrementalists and ‘progressive’ authoritarians that have been winning ever since. Without breaking up the union, we will go the way of Russia, China, and other collectivist authoritarian nightmares of the 20th century.
Exactly. We can unite county by county. We can make new states if need be. Now is the time to stick together more than ever. It’s not just fake news but a fake election as well.
Yeah, no. I ain't keen on the idea of giving those communists half of the US armed forces and turf. Last thing we need is a Chinese American puppet.
But... That's what we had with Obama, and will have with Biden if they are successful in stealing the votes. Only now they have the resources of all 50 states. If we secede, they have far less.
I mean, if we are going as far as doing the things needed for secession, we might as well go in all the way and play for keeps.
If the left is gonna say its inconstitutional and make us hold on to our "dicks" anyway, why the hell should we be content in taking only half of the prize instead of the whole? Especially when it is so blatantly obvious they are trying to cheat their way in.
Point is, if the US fractures China wins.
To the people who think this is a good idea:
1 - How would it work? I mean honestly. Trade deals, travel, infrastructure, give me some kind of coherent strategy.
2 - Who would get what land? Who controls the Ports?
3 - Why the fuck should we let the Democrats own shit?
Do #3, and then #1 and #2 work out ezpz perfectly.
Same arguments were poised against those who advocated for brexit. Wwe will work out with trade deals, just like we did with the USMCA. Staying together brings the worst of both worlds and we turn into another china/Russia. If we split up, at least then both ideologies can be free to attempt to realize their ideal utopia.
"bReXiT DiD iT, wE cAn TrAdE sTuFf" is not a coherent strategy.
How would the country be split, geographically?
It would be split into 3 or 4. If new York and cali want to be vassels to one another that's fine, nothing says a nation needs to be a continuous landmass.
And if Cali wants to be a "vassel" to China?
Do you really not see any of the problems that would come with Balkanizing the USA?
They. Already. Are. China's. Vassel.
So let's give them sovereignty and have Chinese Military bases all over Wine Country.
DO YOU REALLY NOT SEE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WOULD COME WITH BALKANIZING THE USA?