Libertarians claim to want extreme liberty so badly. Yet they insist on throwing their vote away on a candidate who has ZERO chance on winning. Instead of compromising and voting for the most "pro-liberty" candidate who most aligns with their values. Had these Libertarian voters voted instead for the only candidate who is pro gun, pro small government, and anti government intrusion Trump would have won Michigan and the election would be over in his favor already.
So you see in voting for Jo Jo people who claim to be pro liberty have instead handed a state over to a very anti-liberty candidate. They vote against their best interest so they can feel smug, they throw away a vote better used elsewhere, they put principles above abject reality. Libertarians help America become less free and have less liberty. This is the irony and shame of their actions.
Stop trying to distract from the MASSIVE FRAUD. If you want to do the deviant shit that you're an expert on go back to that Anti-fa filled alley you spend so much time in.
Ok ass muncher I am VERY pro Trump and post on this site everyday. I am the furthest thing from a shill. You are acting like a child taking your aggression out on me....A TRUMP SUPPORTER!
I am sorry you are too simple to think of more than one thing at a time. This post was in reference to fake libertarians and how they damage the cause of liberty.....the cause that Trump champions.
We have both been on this site the same amount of day and look at my post scores vs yours! I shill for Trump you smooth brain. GO AWAY!
No, we shouldn't blame other people for voting the way they want to vote based on their ideals/beliefs. This is solely due to fraudulent activity that has been supported by the democrats/news media and social media.
I am not a shill you cunt. Your smooth brain isn't understanding what I am saying so please educate yourself more. You obviously can't hold two ideas in your head at once. I never said shit against the fraud. Of course there is fraud. But it would have been harder to fraud if Libertarians voted for the pro-liberty candidate, Donald Trump. Instead they helped support Joe Biden the gun grabber.
Real libertarians voted for Trump. Fake ass meme Libertarians threw their vote away on a fantasy called Jo Jo. Go take your angst out on the real shills over at Reddit not me shit hammer.
im not missing the point. Trump won michigan by huge numbers. That 1% will not be the reason if it occurs. If trump loses it is due to hundreds of thousands of fake votes and thousands of Trump votes being thrown in the trash.
Trump isn't winning Michigan currently as of the "official" count. I agree with you that there was massive fraud. HOWEVER. If the courts don't invalidate those fake votes the fraud becomes reality then on paper Joe Biden can win the presidency. It doesn't matter if you and I know it's fraud. It means nothing. All that matter is what the "official" count is in the end. All that matters is how the courts side. America is not a country that lives in reality anymore. Instead they live in the fake Clown World ruled by propaganda and smooth brain logic. You have to understand there could be millions of fake votes for Biden, there likely is, and all that matters is who the courts say won.
When I posted this the difference between Trump and Biden was less than the Libertarian vote in Michigan. It now surpasses that. This post was a insult to Big L Libertarians and a shout out to my little l libertarian Trump voters. It seems to have gone WAY over the heads of most everyone here. It's more about the inner struggle of people who think of themselves as some sort of libertarian or ascribe to those values. As opposed to dump fucks who are roped into a meme party called Big L Libertarians. People who would otherwise vote Trump if forced to choose between Trump and Biden instead get an easy out by throwing a vote away for Jo Jo. It's controlled opposition. Meanwhile other libertarians saw the truth, that Trump was the only hope to keep what liberty we had and maybe gain some ground on other fronts.
I always blame them, having been a "large L" libertarian back in the nineties - I grew up. Jorgenson is a leftist in a dress.
Sure if I had to choose between utopian fairytales, I'd choose libertarianism over socialism - but both fail to deliver and ultimately result in the same fucking thing:
The weak are meat, and the strong do eat
So, I'll take civilization over any of that nonsense, I desire as much freedom as possible within a structure that holds people accountable. It's not perfect but it isn't utter bullshit either.
The big L Libertarian party is a joke wrapped in a shit sandwich. It lures people away from the Republicans more than anything. It's controlled opposition. Out of the two parties only one supports gun rights, only one supports small government, only one supports less regulation, only one supports strong capitalist ideas. The other party is literally a socialist party of tyrants and gun grabbers.
Libertarian voters throw their votes away everytime and pat themselves on the back like they did anything but squander their potential.
How have you guys not realized yet that the Libertarian party has as much to do with libertarianism as Liberals promote liberty? The Libertarian party is for Democrats who can't hold their nose and vote for who they are told to.
Thank you for at least having a somewhat thought out response. I too believe the Libertarian party is a shame against liberty and that was the point of this post. However I think some would have voted Trump if FORCED to chose between Biden and Trump. The Libertarian party is controlled opposition.
PSA: If you identify as a "Libertarian" but voted for Trump you are not by definition a "Libertarian voter".....so this does not apply to you. You are one of the good guys.
I made a PSA post specifically for my libertarian trump voting Frens. You are cool bro, you understand what is at stake. You understand that if Biden wins there will be no liberty left in America let alone some Libertarian utopia fever dream where we all get tanks. Joe Biden will lock down this country and thousands will die of suicide and drugs because Libertarians wanted to act cool and throw their vote away instead of voting for little l liberty in the form of Trump.
The race isn't over but it'll be close. If Trump took Michigan it would already be over.
Libertarians would have voted for higher taxes, strict gun laws, and government intrusion into all aspects of business and life? NO LIKELY! RON PAUL SUPPORTS TRUMP!
The Libertarian party platform is not "protest vote with us". It's about less gun regulations, less(no) taxes, small government, and less government intrusion in business/life. That is their platform it is also basically the Republican platform but more mild.
The point being Libertarians vote against their interests and destroy the values and ideas they claim to hold....all so they can have "Muh precocious protest" vote. It's stupid and juvenile.
If Joe Biden wins... he will most likely be replaced by Harris within the first 2 years of his presidency. We all know he's old and feeble. The VP can invoke the 25th, and Harris hates him. Harris polled in single digits with her own party, and is a California leftist authoritarian. I would predict a massive Republican sweep in 2024 after the country gets a taste of 4 years of her shit.
None of that has anything to do with my main point, it enforces it more actually. Libertarians are helping Harris grab guns and institute California Commie rule over all of America. They betray their core ideas so they can act cool and vote Jo Jo instead of voting for the most pro-liberty candidate who could actually win.
No. People vote for whoever they want. I blame the Biden supporters for being so stupid that they voted for someone who obviously sold them out to China for their own profit.
You contradict yourself. You claim people can vote for whoever they want like meme candidate Jo Jo who had ZERO chance of winning anything, anywhere. Yet people are stupid for voting for a communist rapist. Maybe 70 million Americans like communism and rapists, they can vote for whoever they want according to you....they wanted a corrupt old man with swiss cheese brain so according to you it's ok they voted that way.
You think Libertarians only listen to CNN, I doubt it. Ron Paul is pro Trump and he is the God Father of libertarians. He also has a daily YouTube show. He never once talked about Jo Jo or endorsed her.
Da fuck you talking about bro? You mean cunts who vote for Jo Jo? Ron Paul is the OG libertarian and hasn't changed his views at all. You know nothing and any Libertarians you talk to must be LARPers.....which is the WHOLE point of this post.
People LARP as libertarians to look edgy and don't give two shits about less government or liberty.
Libertarians vote for high taxes, strict gun restrictions, and insane government regulations on everyday life??? That is a huge bullshit sandwich Fren, I'm not eating it but thanks!
P.S. Lots of Libertarians here on TDW and that shows you a lot. Many voted for Trump because he is the most pro-liberty candidate out there....RON PAUL IS PRO TRUMP!!
Thank you for your thought out response. Real libertarians voted for the pro-liberty candidate who had a chance of winning, Donald Trump. Ron Paul voted for Trump not Jo Jo.
Stop shitting on your allies. Most libertarians supported Trump. Many of them are here. These are predominantly ex Bernie, Yang, and Tulsi voters. In other words, Biden voters. The LP shat all over its own base to appeal to woke leftists, that's why they only got 1%.
I SPECIFICALLY MADE A PSA POST IN THIS COMMENT SECTION THANKING TRUMP VOTING LIBERTARIANS! ONCE AGAIN "THANKS TO THE TRUE LIBERTARIANS WHO VOTED FOR THE PRO-LIBERTY CANDIDATE DONALD TRUMP!!!"
The LP shat all over its own base to appeal to woke leftists
Fuck that. People can do whatever they want with their vote, whether it’s to use it for the two main parties, a third party they believe in, or to simply abstain. I’m gonna go ahead and blame the very blatant voter fraud!
So you can't blame both fraud and Libertarians? Why? People who claim to love liberty helping a gun grabbing communist get elected....you don't see the irony there???
K cool, don't know them and consider myself pro liberty and anti big L Libertarian. Big L Libertarians are a fucking cancer at this point....that's the whole point of my post.
ALL BIG L LIBERTARIANS ARE FRAUDS! This is the whole point of my post bro! If you believe in liberty you vote Trump over Biden, full stop. This was my point.
We're not the left.
I'd rather blame the fraud.
Missing the point!
Why would I blame legitimate voters instead of blaming people who are obviously and verifiably cheating?
Libertarians claim to want extreme liberty so badly. Yet they insist on throwing their vote away on a candidate who has ZERO chance on winning. Instead of compromising and voting for the most "pro-liberty" candidate who most aligns with their values. Had these Libertarian voters voted instead for the only candidate who is pro gun, pro small government, and anti government intrusion Trump would have won Michigan and the election would be over in his favor already.
So you see in voting for Jo Jo people who claim to be pro liberty have instead handed a state over to a very anti-liberty candidate. They vote against their best interest so they can feel smug, they throw away a vote better used elsewhere, they put principles above abject reality. Libertarians help America become less free and have less liberty. This is the irony and shame of their actions.
It's the fraud I'm upset about. Get lost, dumbass.
Double post, you're a stupid smooth brain...tongue my anus prick.
Stop trying to distract from the MASSIVE FRAUD. If you want to do the deviant shit that you're an expert on go back to that Anti-fa filled alley you spend so much time in.
Ok ass muncher I am VERY pro Trump and post on this site everyday. I am the furthest thing from a shill. You are acting like a child taking your aggression out on me....A TRUMP SUPPORTER!
I am sorry you are too simple to think of more than one thing at a time. This post was in reference to fake libertarians and how they damage the cause of liberty.....the cause that Trump champions.
We have both been on this site the same amount of day and look at my post scores vs yours! I shill for Trump you smooth brain. GO AWAY!
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No, we shouldn't blame other people for voting the way they want to vote based on their ideals/beliefs. This is solely due to fraudulent activity that has been supported by the democrats/news media and social media.
Missing the point!
You're missing the point. The fraud is the big story. Get lost shill with you trying to change the narrative.
I am not a shill you cunt. Your smooth brain isn't understanding what I am saying so please educate yourself more. You obviously can't hold two ideas in your head at once. I never said shit against the fraud. Of course there is fraud. But it would have been harder to fraud if Libertarians voted for the pro-liberty candidate, Donald Trump. Instead they helped support Joe Biden the gun grabber.
Real libertarians voted for Trump. Fake ass meme Libertarians threw their vote away on a fantasy called Jo Jo. Go take your angst out on the real shills over at Reddit not me shit hammer.
Missing the point!
If Joe Biden wins... blame Democrat voter fraud.
Missing the point!
They'd rather vote for the far left socialist than Trump because principles...
Meh. I blame the fraud. Libertarians can vote for whom they wish. I'm not finger-pointing something that's not the real issue. :)
Your math skills suck. The Libertarian vote in Michigan would have won Trump the state and secured the election for him at this point.
BLAME THE EXTREME FRAUD! THEY DIDN'T EVEN DO US THE COURTESY OF BEING SUBTLE ABOUT IT!!!
You also missed the point of this post. Thanks for coming anyway.
That’s what the MSM wants us to do. I blame all the blatant fraud.
Missing the point!
no. im blaming blatant outright fucking theft and cheating.
Missing the point!
im not missing the point. Trump won michigan by huge numbers. That 1% will not be the reason if it occurs. If trump loses it is due to hundreds of thousands of fake votes and thousands of Trump votes being thrown in the trash.
Trump isn't winning Michigan currently as of the "official" count. I agree with you that there was massive fraud. HOWEVER. If the courts don't invalidate those fake votes the fraud becomes reality then on paper Joe Biden can win the presidency. It doesn't matter if you and I know it's fraud. It means nothing. All that matter is what the "official" count is in the end. All that matters is how the courts side. America is not a country that lives in reality anymore. Instead they live in the fake Clown World ruled by propaganda and smooth brain logic. You have to understand there could be millions of fake votes for Biden, there likely is, and all that matters is who the courts say won.
When I posted this the difference between Trump and Biden was less than the Libertarian vote in Michigan. It now surpasses that. This post was a insult to Big L Libertarians and a shout out to my little l libertarian Trump voters. It seems to have gone WAY over the heads of most everyone here. It's more about the inner struggle of people who think of themselves as some sort of libertarian or ascribe to those values. As opposed to dump fucks who are roped into a meme party called Big L Libertarians. People who would otherwise vote Trump if forced to choose between Trump and Biden instead get an easy out by throwing a vote away for Jo Jo. It's controlled opposition. Meanwhile other libertarians saw the truth, that Trump was the only hope to keep what liberty we had and maybe gain some ground on other fronts.
I always blame them, having been a "large L" libertarian back in the nineties - I grew up. Jorgenson is a leftist in a dress.
Sure if I had to choose between utopian fairytales, I'd choose libertarianism over socialism - but both fail to deliver and ultimately result in the same fucking thing:
The weak are meat, and the strong do eat
So, I'll take civilization over any of that nonsense, I desire as much freedom as possible within a structure that holds people accountable. It's not perfect but it isn't utter bullshit either.
FUCK! THANK YOU! AT LEAST SOMEONE GETS IT!!
The big L Libertarian party is a joke wrapped in a shit sandwich. It lures people away from the Republicans more than anything. It's controlled opposition. Out of the two parties only one supports gun rights, only one supports small government, only one supports less regulation, only one supports strong capitalist ideas. The other party is literally a socialist party of tyrants and gun grabbers.
Libertarian voters throw their votes away everytime and pat themselves on the back like they did anything but squander their potential.
How have you guys not realized yet that the Libertarian party has as much to do with libertarianism as Liberals promote liberty? The Libertarian party is for Democrats who can't hold their nose and vote for who they are told to.
Thank you for at least having a somewhat thought out response. I too believe the Libertarian party is a shame against liberty and that was the point of this post. However I think some would have voted Trump if FORCED to chose between Biden and Trump. The Libertarian party is controlled opposition.
I don't. I blame voter fraud.
Missing the point!
PSA: If you identify as a "Libertarian" but voted for Trump you are not by definition a "Libertarian voter".....so this does not apply to you. You are one of the good guys.
I'm Libertarian, yet i voted for Trump. I still say this race isn't over.
I made a PSA post specifically for my libertarian trump voting Frens. You are cool bro, you understand what is at stake. You understand that if Biden wins there will be no liberty left in America let alone some Libertarian utopia fever dream where we all get tanks. Joe Biden will lock down this country and thousands will die of suicide and drugs because Libertarians wanted to act cool and throw their vote away instead of voting for little l liberty in the form of Trump.
The race isn't over but it'll be close. If Trump took Michigan it would already be over.
P.s. END THE FED!
Libertarians would have voted for higher taxes, strict gun laws, and government intrusion into all aspects of business and life? NO LIKELY! RON PAUL SUPPORTS TRUMP!
The Libertarian party platform is not "protest vote with us". It's about less gun regulations, less(no) taxes, small government, and less government intrusion in business/life. That is their platform it is also basically the Republican platform but more mild.
The point being Libertarians vote against their interests and destroy the values and ideas they claim to hold....all so they can have "Muh precocious protest" vote. It's stupid and juvenile.
If Joe Biden wins... he will most likely be replaced by Harris within the first 2 years of his presidency. We all know he's old and feeble. The VP can invoke the 25th, and Harris hates him. Harris polled in single digits with her own party, and is a California leftist authoritarian. I would predict a massive Republican sweep in 2024 after the country gets a taste of 4 years of her shit.
None of that has anything to do with my main point, it enforces it more actually. Libertarians are helping Harris grab guns and institute California Commie rule over all of America. They betray their core ideas so they can act cool and vote Jo Jo instead of voting for the most pro-liberty candidate who could actually win.
MSM/DNC is the problem.
Missing the point!
No. People vote for whoever they want. I blame the Biden supporters for being so stupid that they voted for someone who obviously sold them out to China for their own profit.
You contradict yourself. You claim people can vote for whoever they want like meme candidate Jo Jo who had ZERO chance of winning anything, anywhere. Yet people are stupid for voting for a communist rapist. Maybe 70 million Americans like communism and rapists, they can vote for whoever they want according to you....they wanted a corrupt old man with swiss cheese brain so according to you it's ok they voted that way.
Maybe they never even got that information because all they listen to is the mainstream media.
You think Libertarians only listen to CNN, I doubt it. Ron Paul is pro Trump and he is the God Father of libertarians. He also has a daily YouTube show. He never once talked about Jo Jo or endorsed her.
Da fuck you talking about bro? You mean cunts who vote for Jo Jo? Ron Paul is the OG libertarian and hasn't changed his views at all. You know nothing and any Libertarians you talk to must be LARPers.....which is the WHOLE point of this post.
People LARP as libertarians to look edgy and don't give two shits about less government or liberty.
There is no evidence that these voters would have voted for Trump or voted at all.
Libertarians vote for high taxes, strict gun restrictions, and insane government regulations on everyday life??? That is a huge bullshit sandwich Fren, I'm not eating it but thanks!
P.S. Lots of Libertarians here on TDW and that shows you a lot. Many voted for Trump because he is the most pro-liberty candidate out there....RON PAUL IS PRO TRUMP!!
exactly, real libertarians already voted Trump and not for Jorgensen, so nothing was taken away
Thank you for your thought out response. Real libertarians voted for the pro-liberty candidate who had a chance of winning, Donald Trump. Ron Paul voted for Trump not Jo Jo.
How about to stop?
This is a voter fraud problem.
Missing the point!
Stop shitting on your allies. Most libertarians supported Trump. Many of them are here. These are predominantly ex Bernie, Yang, and Tulsi voters. In other words, Biden voters. The LP shat all over its own base to appeal to woke leftists, that's why they only got 1%.
I SPECIFICALLY MADE A PSA POST IN THIS COMMENT SECTION THANKING TRUMP VOTING LIBERTARIANS! ONCE AGAIN "THANKS TO THE TRUE LIBERTARIANS WHO VOTED FOR THE PRO-LIBERTY CANDIDATE DONALD TRUMP!!!"
^^^^ THIS IS EXACTLY MY POINT BRO!!! ^^^^^^
Fuck that. People can do whatever they want with their vote, whether it’s to use it for the two main parties, a third party they believe in, or to simply abstain. I’m gonna go ahead and blame the very blatant voter fraud!
So you can't blame both fraud and Libertarians? Why? People who claim to love liberty helping a gun grabbing communist get elected....you don't see the irony there???
Let's blame the fraud.
Missing the point!
I don't know what that means. Thanks for sharing I guess???
K cool, don't know them and consider myself pro liberty and anti big L Libertarian. Big L Libertarians are a fucking cancer at this point....that's the whole point of my post.
ALL BIG L LIBERTARIANS ARE FRAUDS! This is the whole point of my post bro! If you believe in liberty you vote Trump over Biden, full stop. This was my point.
Thank you for the valiant effort.