I don’t understand your point. I’m saying NOT to demonize any specific group? Yeah I agree lots of people have been demonized. I think we are on the same page? It’s wrong in all instances. Judge individually, correct?
Jews specifically have been "demonized" more than any others. A lot more. If it's just baseless scapegoating that can be done with any group, why is it Jews?
Do you apply this "judge individually" thing to communists?
Communism is a choice, ethnicity is not, firstly. Secondly, yes, I would be fine with a communist who doesn’t have any desire to force those ideas on others, although that would probably be a rare case admittedly. And Jews have been used historically as in Britain and Germany as scapegoats because they were minority targets. For instance in Hitler’s case, he needed someone to blame for economic turmoil after WW1. Who were some of the minorities? Jews, Gypsies, etc and Jews had been fairly successful so ipso facto they ruined the economy through their Jew greed. Scapegoating is used to sell a story to the masses generally speaking instead of evaluating what really happened, which once again using Germany was due to the economic reparations they had to pay everyone for trying to conquer Europe. If you truly believe the Jews are in some world cabal for dominance, you go for it. I think you are very misled if that is the case. Agree to disagree?
The race part of ethnicity isn't a choice but the identity and allegiance and shared beliefs are. You'd be fine with communists who don't want to impose it on anyone, but does that stop you from saying communists are bad? Does that mean it's "demonizing" them to say that? Of course not.
If I'm misled then I'd rather not agree to disagree. Did Hitler not vehemently blame France and Britain for the Treaty of Versailles, claiming it was purely about weakening Germany so they can hold more power in Europe themselves? There was also the Great Depression which was created by our own sudden obsession with loans and speculation here in the US crashing the markets.
Plus it wasn't even just about the economic stuff, right? There were cultural things happening in Germany after WW1 that they weren't happy with.
Still, like you said blaming Jews is the "classic" thing that's been done throughout history. A single case in the 1930's would be one thing, but again and again and again across centuries and in vastly different societies makes no sense.
I don’t understand your point. I’m saying NOT to demonize any specific group? Yeah I agree lots of people have been demonized. I think we are on the same page? It’s wrong in all instances. Judge individually, correct?
Jews specifically have been "demonized" more than any others. A lot more. If it's just baseless scapegoating that can be done with any group, why is it Jews?
Do you apply this "judge individually" thing to communists?
Communism is a choice, ethnicity is not, firstly. Secondly, yes, I would be fine with a communist who doesn’t have any desire to force those ideas on others, although that would probably be a rare case admittedly. And Jews have been used historically as in Britain and Germany as scapegoats because they were minority targets. For instance in Hitler’s case, he needed someone to blame for economic turmoil after WW1. Who were some of the minorities? Jews, Gypsies, etc and Jews had been fairly successful so ipso facto they ruined the economy through their Jew greed. Scapegoating is used to sell a story to the masses generally speaking instead of evaluating what really happened, which once again using Germany was due to the economic reparations they had to pay everyone for trying to conquer Europe. If you truly believe the Jews are in some world cabal for dominance, you go for it. I think you are very misled if that is the case. Agree to disagree?
The race part of ethnicity isn't a choice but the identity and allegiance and shared beliefs are. You'd be fine with communists who don't want to impose it on anyone, but does that stop you from saying communists are bad? Does that mean it's "demonizing" them to say that? Of course not.
If I'm misled then I'd rather not agree to disagree. Did Hitler not vehemently blame France and Britain for the Treaty of Versailles, claiming it was purely about weakening Germany so they can hold more power in Europe themselves? There was also the Great Depression which was created by our own sudden obsession with loans and speculation here in the US crashing the markets.
Plus it wasn't even just about the economic stuff, right? There were cultural things happening in Germany after WW1 that they weren't happy with.
Still, like you said blaming Jews is the "classic" thing that's been done throughout history. A single case in the 1930's would be one thing, but again and again and again across centuries and in vastly different societies makes no sense.
I agree with majority of that. I’m gonna get back in the election stuff. Good debate though.