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I live in one of the counties that "forgot to upload." There goes my Trump vote.
In GA you vote using the machine and then print a copy of your ballot. Then you hand it to a poll worker show scans it. I am not surprised - the poll workers were not that sharp. Ugh!
Look at Florida. They went from hanging chads to having real-time reporting of vote tallies. And once they booted a corrupt insider who was literally batching absentee ballots in a closet, Florida was ours - because the people’s vote was secured. Not to say they don’t have holes in the system, chain of custody for any non-in-person is non-existent and invite ballot harvesting fraud, but it’s solid.
These states won’t change, because they know what will happen if they actually secure the vote system.
He basically admits fraud. "with small bits(of ballots) from small counties here and there" "accuracy is important because it is how the people will BELIEVE it depends on accuracy". Dead giveaway doublespeak there....... Talking to both ignorant masses and the media at the same time
From looking at the data on Georgia.gov it looks like all ballots cast on Election Day have been counted and they’re only “counting” mail ins and absentees.
I I remember correctly. though not in Georgia, there's a tape of totals from each machine that are run at the end of the night. Each tape is signed off on by the election judge, then delivered to a central location for tabulation.
u/TrumpVoter1 is right. Our mail in ballots are also just regular mail-in ballots. I would expect most fraud to be committed using mail-in/absentee since it would be easier.
That sounds so ass-backwards. Like the law office I did some contract work for who all used fax machines instead of email to send documents to each other in the same building. They would print a document and then fax it to the other attorney down the hall.
The voting machines themselves are not internet connected. The voter validates there results on screen and on paper. The printed result is on special paper and its scanned/uploaded. Usually one scanner per poll location. So you have electronic and paper results in case of recount.
GA will be contested and mail-in ballots tend to have a high rate of discard in re-counts.
Also, Biden needs 25k of those 60k votes assuming Trump gets none. That means he needs almost 35% just to catch up, then match Trump 1:1. It means he needs 85% of all the votes to break even. Anything less he looses.
Also, Biden needs 25k of those 60k votes assuming Trump gets none. That means he needs almost 35% just to catch up, then match Trump 1:1. It means he needs 85% of all the votes to break even
60k votes left and at the time of writing the gap was 25k.
So Biden needs 25k plus half of the rest of the votes to be even. My fast math did go wrong, but still 70% of all votes left at the time or 42.5k of 60k.
That's not how English works.
Fuck off with your pedantics.
I did the math. With current vote percentages and what he say is left the final tally should be - Trump 2,461,230 to Biden 2,451,872.
9,358 vote win for Trump.
Trump did WORLDS better this time compared to 2016.
The democrats had their cheating apparatus set up to beat Trump’s 2016 numbers.
Trump exceeded his 2016 numbers.
They freaked out and dumped shitloads of fake ballots into the count for Biden because they were losing even though they cheated.
They obviously were careless and got caught.
Now they are trying to institute the fix for PA, GA, NC, AZ and Nevada - but they are having a hell of a time because they are being scrutinized heavily now and can’t do it without someone noticing.
They are in big trouble because Trump is gonna win without having to fight for Michigan and Wisconsin.
This whole situation was expected by Trump and in the end it is a blessing because the absolute fraud that goes on is going to be exposed in a very real way to normies who will see that they have been lied to for decades - and it will be eradicated.
After all, the only reason Trump won in 2016 was because they KNEW Hillary was gonna win and didn’t bother cheating. 2020 is what 2016 would have looked like if the democrats had any idea Trump would have won.
Yeah and in the meantime we get to see the press pumping out endless stories about how "Biden appearing to be the winner of the 2020 election"... for weeks.
I am sure there are counterfeit ballots that are printed illegally by democrats - but with the outrageous mail in ballot flooding of communities with unclaimed ballots, they probably just collected them up, put a fake signature on the ballot with a Biden vote on it and dropped them back into the mail.
I should have used “illegitimate ballots” instead of “fake”.
In this case all of the above. But usually it is registered voters, potentially dead/old address/ballot harvested, that have their ballots fraudulently cast.
??? I was loosely referencing the Equal Protection Clause in the Constitution. If Voters in Fulton County can have election officials track them down to "fix" their ballots, then all voters in Georgia should be afforded that luxury.
Not exactly. Right now (11:55 Nov 4)..
Biden: 2,419,589 vs Trump 2,434,354 = 14,765 votes (that's 4k lower then when I ehcked when the announcement was made...so who knows where we were at then).
When I checked earlier, Biden needed 70% of the vote...now he needs slightly less than that. So, who knows how many votes are still outstanding and where the vote count was when this 60k figure was announced. When I checked right afterword, Biden needed 70+% of the vote to win.
A federal election is supposed to go to a runoff because neither candidate will have 50%+1 vote. That is strange, because I don't think they can do that for the president as the electoral college votes before the runoff time.
They do say that they can do a recount if the margin is within .5%. So, GA is going to a recount.
So, joe needs 65.13% of the outstanding votes to gain 18,141 on trump.
Check:
65.13%*60,000 = 39,078 votes for Joe
(1-.6513)60,000 = 20,922 for Trump (20,922+39078)=60,000
39078 - 20922 = 18,156 (rounding error)
but, 2414787+2432928 +60 k = 4,907,715 total votes expected (not actually correct, because we are ignoring the third party votes...so this is only the total we expect to go for Trump + Biden.
This 65% of the vote he would need is achievable from some counties, but not others. So, we will see.
Update: (2:33 pm). Joe: 2,423,595 Trump 2,436,420 = 4,860,015 votes total. 4,907,715 target = 47,700 votes left. with a 12,825 votes biden needs to make up.
2Joe%=100 + 12,825/47,700 = 63.4%
So it would imply that Joe is getting a little better than 65% in the first batch that were counted since noon.
Thanks for typing that! The numbers make my head swim, but I'm obsessed with watching them. I've been keeping a close eye on the GA updates and they've really slowed down. They've only added a total of 1,541 in the last three updates I've seen combined (last hour and a half or so). I'm hopeful (but not overly optimistic) that 60,000 was a lie and they're running out of ballots to count. Most sites have said 99% reporting all day, and (if accurate), that would make the remaining votes be far less than 60k.
Do you really believe that the RINOs will save Trump now that his re-election seems less certain? They never liked him in the first place. Those hypocrites will be thinking about themselves now. The globalists see a path back to power and they don't care who wins, so long as things go back to what they used to be.
"not sure about voter fraud, that's kind of a broad term"
yes, yes it is, for it encompasses many kinds of fraud and crookery at all levels from top to bottom.
The previous day he'd stated that there were 200K + the now 60K outstanding. He'd mentioned at 11AM yesterday that it seemed unlikely to him that the result would flip/change based on those numbers.
He definitely seems more wishy-washy and giddily suspicious today, however.
Well he's a republican, so you better hope not or else that would actually be a bad thing for us overall.
Spez: sure dipshits, he can be a RINO. He's labeled a republican. Let's hope he has some of this under control and is doing to press speak most politicians do to weasel out of specifics.
i guess covid isn't as deadly as media claims...curious to see how many in NY voted...
Where is that dog fart Brian Kemp?
I live in one of the counties that "forgot to upload." There goes my Trump vote. In GA you vote using the machine and then print a copy of your ballot. Then you hand it to a poll worker show scans it. I am not surprised - the poll workers were not that sharp. Ugh!
the election system needs a revamp for sure. a voter should at very least be able to audit their OWN vote to make sure its counted and correct.
The sad thing is that it was "revamped" after 2000.
Look at Florida. They went from hanging chads to having real-time reporting of vote tallies. And once they booted a corrupt insider who was literally batching absentee ballots in a closet, Florida was ours - because the people’s vote was secured. Not to say they don’t have holes in the system, chain of custody for any non-in-person is non-existent and invite ballot harvesting fraud, but it’s solid.
These states won’t change, because they know what will happen if they actually secure the vote system.
One exception: Mike Pence
At 12:30, he listed the outstanding votes and counties:
In parenthesis, from https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/georgia/president, I'm writing votes Trump/votes Biden, Percent Trump/Percent Biden.
Bryan county: 3027 (12980/5036, 70.9/27.5) Burke county: 494 (5179/4836, 51.3/47.9) Charlton county: 17157 (3419/1100, 74.9/24.1) *Clayton county: 7408 (14743/87867, 14.2/84.9) *Cobb county: ~700 (164666/220620, 42.0/56.3) Floyd county: 682 (26721/10706, 70.5/28.2) ? county: 4713 (Forsyth is most likely what he said here, but it was inaudible, 82983/39855, 66.5/32.0) *Fulton county: 11200 (133586/368864, 26.3/72.5) *Gwinnett county: 7300 (163937/236336, 40.4/58.3) Harris county: 3641 (12567/3642, 76.7/22.2) Laurens county: 1797 (14351/7875, 64.1/35.2) Putnam county: 1552 (8182/3319, 70.5/28.6) Taylor county: 456 (2278/1109, 66.6/32.4)
This means that some 26600 votes are coming from counties Biden is currently winning, and 33519 from counties Trump is currently winning.
He basically admits fraud. "with small bits(of ballots) from small counties here and there" "accuracy is important because it is how the people will BELIEVE it depends on accuracy". Dead giveaway doublespeak there....... Talking to both ignorant masses and the media at the same time
Hey whats that behind his ear? Tada! Its 10000 biden ballots! Viola!
Is not Georgia an 'electronic voting state' - 'no paper ballots' ???
what is there to upload?
From looking at the data on Georgia.gov it looks like all ballots cast on Election Day have been counted and they’re only “counting” mail ins and absentees.
Every precinct in the state has reported.
I I remember correctly. though not in Georgia, there's a tape of totals from each machine that are run at the end of the night. Each tape is signed off on by the election judge, then delivered to a central location for tabulation.
u/TrumpVoter1 is right. Our mail in ballots are also just regular mail-in ballots. I would expect most fraud to be committed using mail-in/absentee since it would be easier.
I am not sure how hard it is to do mail in. You used to have to justify why you needed an absentee ballot
At least there is an audit trail -
Exactly. Better than what we had two years ago
Electronic with paper trail. Vote electronic, results printed. Printed results scanned and uploaded
That sounds so ass-backwards. Like the law office I did some contract work for who all used fax machines instead of email to send documents to each other in the same building. They would print a document and then fax it to the other attorney down the hall.
The voting machines themselves are not internet connected. The voter validates there results on screen and on paper. The printed result is on special paper and its scanned/uploaded. Usually one scanner per poll location. So you have electronic and paper results in case of recount.
Probably from one of those 4 counties which "forgot" to click "upload".
GA will be contested and mail-in ballots tend to have a high rate of discard in re-counts.
Also, Biden needs 25k of those 60k votes assuming Trump gets none. That means he needs almost 35% just to catch up, then match Trump 1:1. It means he needs 85% of all the votes to break even. Anything less he looses.
That's not how math works.
That's not how English works.
60k votes left and at the time of writing the gap was 25k. So Biden needs 25k plus half of the rest of the votes to be even. My fast math did go wrong, but still 70% of all votes left at the time or 42.5k of 60k.
That's better math, and don't be so fragile. The English thing was a joke.
Thanks Pede. Too Much coffee, too Fas Mafs
If they steal Georgia it will definitely have to go to the courts plus recounts and audits.
I want to see GA and NC called for Trump. Then PA and AZ go to trump so he wins and then takes this corruption and fraud to court
They need to start doing what is right!
THEY'RE democrats. Enough said.
I did the math. With current vote percentages and what he say is left the final tally should be - Trump 2,461,230 to Biden 2,451,872. 9,358 vote win for Trump.
They'll just find some more ballots then.
Here is the bottom line:
Trump did WORLDS better this time compared to 2016.
The democrats had their cheating apparatus set up to beat Trump’s 2016 numbers.
Trump exceeded his 2016 numbers.
They freaked out and dumped shitloads of fake ballots into the count for Biden because they were losing even though they cheated.
They obviously were careless and got caught.
Now they are trying to institute the fix for PA, GA, NC, AZ and Nevada - but they are having a hell of a time because they are being scrutinized heavily now and can’t do it without someone noticing.
They are in big trouble because Trump is gonna win without having to fight for Michigan and Wisconsin.
This whole situation was expected by Trump and in the end it is a blessing because the absolute fraud that goes on is going to be exposed in a very real way to normies who will see that they have been lied to for decades - and it will be eradicated.
After all, the only reason Trump won in 2016 was because they KNEW Hillary was gonna win and didn’t bother cheating. 2020 is what 2016 would have looked like if the democrats had any idea Trump would have won.
Yeah and in the meantime we get to see the press pumping out endless stories about how "Biden appearing to be the winner of the 2020 election"... for weeks.
Turn off the news!!! Fuck the press!!!!
Hear, hear
They cheated, just not enough. They keep underestimating us
2018 was the trial run, they went full gas this time around.
We kind figured they would use mail in balloting fraud to sure up the numbers after that fact and it what they are doing..
When people say fake ballots do they mean fake people on the ballots or the ballots themselves?
People who voted multiple times off of a single address using fabricated names: those are fake ballots.
Both.
I am sure there are counterfeit ballots that are printed illegally by democrats - but with the outrageous mail in ballot flooding of communities with unclaimed ballots, they probably just collected them up, put a fake signature on the ballot with a Biden vote on it and dropped them back into the mail.
I should have used “illegitimate ballots” instead of “fake”.
In this case all of the above. But usually it is registered voters, potentially dead/old address/ballot harvested, that have their ballots fraudulently cast.
dead people or people with birthdays that when you look them up are 01/01/1900 making them 120 years old. Those are fake ballots.
nope.
check out trumps latest tweet, was like 5min ago, on front page now
They are getting people to come fix their ballots. That means is not done. That means they did not turn it in on time.
Then do the same thing for ballots in Trump areas
Yes, of course. Trump is legitimacy in the election process, whether he wins or loses.
??? I was loosely referencing the Equal Protection Clause in the Constitution. If Voters in Fulton County can have election officials track them down to "fix" their ballots, then all voters in Georgia should be afforded that luxury.
My bad, too much eyeballing on TD.win.
If there are 60,000 votes to be counted, Trump will have to get
43%34.9% of them to win the state.They've counted about 10,000 votes since and announcement and Trump is pulling 28.6%
Not exactly. Right now (11:55 Nov 4).. Biden: 2,419,589 vs Trump 2,434,354 = 14,765 votes (that's 4k lower then when I ehcked when the announcement was made...so who knows where we were at then).
60k votes @ 43% = 25,800 to Biden, 34, 200 Trump = 8,400 Votes.
When I checked earlier, Biden needed 70% of the vote...now he needs slightly less than that. So, who knows how many votes are still outstanding and where the vote count was when this 60k figure was announced. When I checked right afterword, Biden needed 70+% of the vote to win.
Hey you're right. I think that means he needed 34.9% (at time of announcement). Does you think this look correct?
((Total Votes / 2) - Current Trump Votes) / Remaining
((2414787+2432928+60000) / 2) - 2432928) / 60000 = 34.9%
Also, according to this website: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/recount-laws-in-georgia-what-are-the-rules
A federal election is supposed to go to a runoff because neither candidate will have 50%+1 vote. That is strange, because I don't think they can do that for the president as the electoral college votes before the runoff time.
They do say that they can do a recount if the margin is within .5%. So, GA is going to a recount.
Now a runoff is something I hadn't thought about! It looks like neither had 50% in Wisconsin, either, and there were almost 57k third party votes.
Hmm, not sure.
This is the way I would calculate it...
Trumps lead (then). = 2,414,787 = 18, 141 votes. This is what Joe needs to gain in the 60k votes counted.
What percent of 60,000 does Joe need to gain 18,141 votes on Trump?
Joe% * 60,000 - Trump% * 60,000 = 18,141
Joe% - Trump % = .30235 = 30.26%
Joe needs to exceed Trump by 30.26% , Joe + Trump = 100% (ignore 3rd party), Trump = (100% - Joe%)
Joe% - (100 - Joe%) = 30.26% 2Joe%=100.26% Joe%= 65.13%
So, joe needs 65.13% of the outstanding votes to gain 18,141 on trump.
Check:
65.13%*60,000 = 39,078 votes for Joe (1-.6513)60,000 = 20,922 for Trump (20,922+39078)=60,000
39078 - 20922 = 18,156 (rounding error)
but, 2414787+2432928 +60 k = 4,907,715 total votes expected (not actually correct, because we are ignoring the third party votes...so this is only the total we expect to go for Trump + Biden.
This 65% of the vote he would need is achievable from some counties, but not others. So, we will see.
Update: (2:33 pm). Joe: 2,423,595 Trump 2,436,420 = 4,860,015 votes total. 4,907,715 target = 47,700 votes left. with a 12,825 votes biden needs to make up.
2Joe%=100 + 12,825/47,700 = 63.4%
So it would imply that Joe is getting a little better than 65% in the first batch that were counted since noon.
Thanks for typing that! The numbers make my head swim, but I'm obsessed with watching them. I've been keeping a close eye on the GA updates and they've really slowed down. They've only added a total of 1,541 in the last three updates I've seen combined (last hour and a half or so). I'm hopeful (but not overly optimistic) that 60,000 was a lie and they're running out of ballots to count. Most sites have said 99% reporting all day, and (if accurate), that would make the remaining votes be far less than 60k.
No problem...Update so it's clear (I mixed up 100% verses 1.0 = 100% above)...So, based upon the 4:14 updates
Biden: 2,425,411 Trump: 2,438,206: = 12,795 vote lead with ~ 44,063 votes left.
Biden now needs: (1+12795/44063)/2 = .645 = 64.5% of the 44,063 remaining votes.
Do you really believe that the RINOs will save Trump now that his re-election seems less certain? They never liked him in the first place. Those hypocrites will be thinking about themselves now. The globalists see a path back to power and they don't care who wins, so long as things go back to what they used to be.
They got caught and they're doing it "by the book" now
"Bipartisan Panel" ??? Who's on this panel exactly?
Clinton and Romney
haha... Their's and Osama's lackeys no doubt.
Dems
Same as the bipartisan commission on presidential debates.
Same as the bipartisan fbi and doj
I voted for this faggot. Lesson learned.
Ambiguous marks? They really are jealous of Florida 2000.
These stupid Republicans trying to steal the election from us. Trumplicans all the way! We need a new party.
Since when has this been a long and drawn out process?!? 2016 I woke up knowing who the damn president was going to be.
It's not hard to figure out. This is why the dems pushed so hard for mail in voting.
wtf
Every adult that died in Georgia in the last decade has voted for Joe Biden.
counting is hard
It's all so tiring
CNDNC is an you need to know that this is a smoke and mirrors pony show. Why bothering listening to it.
FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIVE IN GEORGIA. FULTON COUNTY IS BASICALLY ATLANTA MINI ON CRACK.
That is all.
Fulton County is Atlanta.
Theater.
But muh staff is TIRED!
takes time to shred and photo copy
Georgia voters need to string this guy up in the street like a pinata and beat him until the candy falls out. By candy, I mean the truth.
This is not the GA SoS
They're not engaged in voter fraud because they're too busy engaging in ballot fraud.
por que no los dos?
Ambos, carnal
Okay yeah you just shred them, burn them or why even bother when 60k ballots can arrive from nowhere
He's giving out the stealing benchmark numbers.
Why has Fulton County taken so very, very long then if they have all these "high capacity scanners"? Hmmmmm. The steal
STEP DOWN!
"not sure about voter fraud, that's kind of a broad term" yes, yes it is, for it encompasses many kinds of fraud and crookery at all levels from top to bottom.
What a gigantic douche faggot
Just look at this faggot's fucking face. He is in on the steal, 100000%.
Why is he giving insight into the rest of the country? How the fuck does he know anything about the rest of the country?
Just another mouthpiece to sow uncertainty.
Quit spreading misinformation. 60,000 left and less than that in a lead for Trump. ALL EYES ON GA NOW.
This SOS just said 60k outstanding. How do you arrive at your count?
The previous day he'd stated that there were 200K + the now 60K outstanding. He'd mentioned at 11AM yesterday that it seemed unlikely to him that the result would flip/change based on those numbers.
He definitely seems more wishy-washy and giddily suspicious today, however.
This guy looks like a kid toucher
Well he's a republican, so you better hope not or else that would actually be a bad thing for us overall.
Spez: sure dipshits, he can be a RINO. He's labeled a republican. Let's hope he has some of this under control and is doing to press speak most politicians do to weasel out of specifics.
Wrong
yup
Haha.
This guy's answers are super sus.
Yeah he got nasty and aggressive real quick.
Yeah "we are working with the counties to find out how many are available"
Um its fucking 2 days after the election why the fuck do we not have a count? Super convenient
This cuck needs to go to jail for the rest of his life.
"These people are not involved in voter fraud" is exactly what someone involved in voter fraud would say.
^^^^^
Did he actually say that lmao
Yep, I guess he personally knows everyone working in elections in GA to make such an assessment.
There's no fraud!
Also, we thought we were done but we just keep finding hundreds of thousands of ballots 2 days after the election. Teehee.
But yeah, no fraud at all 😊
Yep and I'm sure all the ballots will FINALLY be done after Biden has just squeaked ahead. GEOTUS and crew will prevail, through court if needed.
This guy sounds scared
If you had Soros threatening you and your family, you would be too.