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posted ago by ghost_of_aswartz ago by ghost_of_aswartz +33 / -0

Some posts are capped artificially around 50 typically, but some exceed this threshold and make it as far as 250 upvotes. Since 3 months or so ago, none of these posts go up beyond the hundreds into the thousands, but I noticed there's a handful of other accounts whose posts frequently are upvoted into the thousands. Statistics says this is wildly unlikely over random data.

I think instead of thinking or accusing those accounts as having a private bot net that's artificially colluding to boost their posts, I think it's probably more correct to say that cloudflare is "deeboosting" certain accountholder's posts by 'dropping' upvote action clicks on those accountholder's posts.

You see, on YOUR end, you can click up on a person's post, and the front end javascript will register an upvote (the wall build animation), but it won't actually happen on the server, you just assume it does. This can be tested by unplugging your internet cable and clicking upvote. It still happens, except that it doesn't.

You can refresh and see that your upvote has no effect on this. That's because why? It's cached. The page is cached. You move on, having concluded that this is normal.

I dismissed this initially as "issues with long stale caching issues on thedonald.win"...this site NEEDS caching because of the large amount of activity; I didn't think anything of it, because caching is a plausibly deniable explanation as to why your upvotes don't matter and why your posts which used to be in thousands suddenly are all capped in the tens of upvotes.

You also say, 'well the site has more users now, that's why'. No. it's statistically unlikely that your posts initially are found within 2 minutes to have 30 upvotes, and then stop at 50, and then have that happen frequently. 2 to 30 is a velocity, it's a HIGH velocity. 30 people upvoting a "new" post means it has some virality to it. To stop at 50 after 30 minutes and then linger at 50, 12 hours later means it's capped.

It's penaltyboxed

This is not a complaint it's science. It's an observation that is repeatable, and a hypothesis, supported by evidence building into a working theory.

Once the post is stuck, you use two alt accounts to upvote, and then you wait. Wait 5 minutes, an hour, 5 hours, those vote still didn't register.

CAUGHT. Either this site is doing this, or cloudflare is doing it. I really doubt it's thedonald.win, but it could be. I'm not accusing them of this. I've not been censored and was actually invited to their discord server that had nothing going on.

Now either they did that to insult me, as in invite me to a party and then I'm the only one who shows up and they laugh at me, or discord simply sucks and no one was around, or I'm retarded and don't know how to use discord (most likely option). I don't assume the worst in people, so that is why I suspect cloudflare

Also, cloudflare has interfered wildly with my access to Voat.co before, and also to greatawakening.win and even reddit.

That's how you know it is CLOUDFLARE that is caught being a political man in the middle dropping out your votes.

It's hard to prove this, you can only trace it and use deductive reasoning on this platform, and inductive reasoning of how their site has behaved on other platforms.

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South_Florida_Guy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've noticed this too. The way to fix is the turn off caching w/in CF and let users have live/realtime access to the site. When you have a rapidly changing site like a social media or message board type site like this, the caching feature in CF doesn't help the experience.

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree!!

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TrumpTrainForever 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ghost of aswartz I’ve been seeing you around here a lot lately.

You’re a good dude. Thanks for bringing this to light. I hope we find an explanation as to whether it’s cloud flare or the site itself.

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you. Yes I post a lot. I also type extraordinarily fast, as fast as I can think.

You are also right that it could be this website. It could be what I call "a trapdoor" site

https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/bchdt0/what_is_trapdooring_its_a_baitandswitch_technique/


I hope this does not sound braggadocious but I have already proven my merit on social media with over a couple million upvotes on various sites historically and have lots of 'reddit gold' as trophies

I've been kicked off subs I love by people who obviously were not the same person overnight. In other words, MODS that were my friends who suddenly became 'different people". I consider that their modship was hacked, but then I thought about it, and considered that they were never a person, but a private secruity / oppo research / public opinion steering glowie group; or they sold their modship account to a high bidder and let a piece of their soul die

My posts did well on this site initially, then when I made the mistake of reposting my own past work from reddit as 911bodysnatchers322 ... THAT is when I saw this behavior start to happen, where I was "capped" in terms of influence

The same thing is happening in the VIDEO world, with our favorite youtube / patreon and bitchute creators,....their subscribers find themselves magically "unsubbed", their sub numbers get capped, their views get capped...this has a REAL impact on their money..

.,.. the same thing happened in GAB. Now it's happening on parlay / parler

This site too could be a way to push patriots into a bubble so that they are separated from social media, so that it's easier to GASLIGHT those that remain on social media

You see it's not about controlling OUR minds; it's about controlling OUR INFLUENCE ON NORMIES

We had to be taken away from the normies and shunted and squished, so that our thoughts and minds cannot "infect" the normies with ...well

Truth.

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TrumpTrainForever 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think, in theory, you are right. I don’t know if this site is a trapdoor, but if you were around TD before it got shut down there was a large shuffling and split of the mod team. They eventually created this site, and here we are now.

When this site was first created there was a lot of worry and talk that this site was a distraction or a ploy to pull us away from reddit and the average Joe, to keep us quiet and not influencing anyone else.

I think you are 100% right in the fact that there is a PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR being fought right now between the US populace, BIG TECH, and COMMUNISM. This is, in effect, a continuation of the Cold War which never actually ended. The war front just switched from an arms/military race to a psychological and trade war primarily.

The US survived the war physically, but actually lost ideologically. This has lead us to this technocrat dystopia we find ourselves in right now, where there could be obvious election interference but the common man is completely blinded on all sides by illegitimate media.

I hope there is a peaceful solution to this, but I fear that we are past the point of a peaceable solution. The future will require those with the strength of will and strength of character to do what must be done going forward.

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Shhhhhut_the_hell_up 1 point ago +1 / -0

So wouldn't people who post frequently be able to go through their own posts/comments and see a trend of 50 upvotes?

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, that's what I'm saying. You wouldn't hard cap it at 50, that would be "obvious"

They do a soft cap. After a random capped number of real upvotes, you get soft capped, meaning they drop most of the upvotes, but allow a few to leak. So they do a soft cap hard cap. Say at 25 upvotes, they soft cap you. Then 9/10 upvotes get dropped until your post is up to 33, then its hardcapped.

They would do this to be 'sneaky' because they want you to think your words don't matter, that you're unimportant, and also they want to limit your influence

This is how they control public opinion, they boost things that are less of a threat to them, and then they cap / penalty box words and ideas (or people producing them) from being able to reach a larger audience

If you cap people at FLOOR(RAND(10, 300) / RAND(50,12)) as your post target cap, then it will just look like they're hovering somewhere between 1 and 300 upvotes, but won't be able to say they have a hard cap

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

There it is. The cap right at 25

FLOOR(RAND(300) / RAND(10))

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

actually here's real code, I wanted to do it in vanilla js just for fun

Math.floor(Math.floor(Math.random(250)*250)/(Math.floor(Math.random(10)*10) || 1))