Turncoat Roberts is not in charge anymore! And speaking of the devil, wasn't he a Bush appointee? Doesn't he realize that he wouldn't be who he is today without Bush v Gore?
If you can't close a polling location while people are still in line to vote, you can't toss out ballots in your possession just because they weren't counted on election day.
Does this allow democrats to arbitrarily stop counting votes in order to buy time for shenanigans? Yes.
That's why we need immediate reform of our entire election process to remove every single "honor system" vulnerability.
it's not about when the ballots are counted, its when they show up at the polling place to be counted. BY LAW, all ballots most be collected and brought to the pollingplace by 8:00 pm IIRC in PA, but they showed up with random boxes of ballots to be 'mixed in' with the ones still being counted at 4 am, and then the next day more where collected from drop boxed that were supposed to be SEALED SHUT on election night but where left open so people sould still drop additional ballots in the following days..
If I get in line at 7:45 and I dont hit the booth until 8:15. There's the whole time in standard, you are 'counted' as being on time regardless. However any vote that comes in after 11:59 should be tossed out. There should be zero reason as to why a larger state like Florida and Texas were able to finish their tallies within a few hours after polls closed. Yet states like VA, GA, NC, PA, WI, MI all had issues when it came to closing their polls and counting those absentee ballots.
So yea...11:59 if not all votes are counted by then, all votes after should be discarded. This is unheard of in our history and we've had wars that put more strain on resources than a virus.
you can't close a polling location while people are still in line to vote
technically, the law is that whoever is last in line at exactly 7:00p stays as the last person to vote. Not one single person is allowed to enter that line to vote after 7p.
That's why poll watchers are instructed to go outside and take photo/video of the line & last person in it exactly at 7p.
No mail-in ballots should be allowed to come in after election day. The postmark crap is where it'll get tricky... postmarked by the 3rd but could easily be backdated by someone at usps who can just change the stamp back a day or two.
I agree. I live in GA and travel the entire state frequently. I can tell you, The overwhelming amount of people side with Trump. Even if you include the liberal areas like Athens, Atlanta, and Gwinnett.
There is clear evidence of fraud. And More than enough suspect behavior by county officials to merit an investigation and render Biden a cheater. Nullify his run for office and give victory to the clear winner who didn’t cheat. Donald J. Trump
You need to call your state reps today and tell everyone you know to do the same. Call Kemp's office and the SOS too. They need to know we are watching how they handle this obvious corruption and that they won't be elected for anything ever again if they let Atlanta dems steal this election.
Right, but this is also intriguing to me and you're one of the ONLY people I've seen so much as mention this.
For decades, whenever there was a brutal tied tight race someone always talked about the overseas military ballots which were almost always strongly for a Republican (in most cases and in this one too)
Strangely enough, I have not heard this brought up once on twitter, not even here, not in hours of ABCNBCFOX etc. It's so 'unmentioned' it seems weirdly suspicious to me.
Because they're going to change the overseas military votes.
They didn't start "Trump insulted the military" for fun. They were planning to change their votes and use that as the reasoning why the military members "voted" for Biden
They have been "finding" more and more votes in Atlanta every day since Tuesday. I have no doubt they will "find" some more to overcome the military ballots. The GA GOP is getting cucked in front of the world and not doing a damn thing about it. Kemp and the GA SOS need to either step in and do their jobs or resign, and they need to do it today.
I've had this playing while browsing .win this morning, they claimed it. And I've also read they're are thousands of more ballots to be counted from other counties too. Not sure if thats good or bad, red or blue counties.
So they have to keep the inner envelope with the ballot at all times..makes sense. Remember when those post wall celebrities got naked to tell people not to forget the inner envelope otherwise it's a naked ballot? My first thought besides "thanks for giving me an inny" was "are democrats really that retarded?" Now I get it. They are spinning a narrative that those evil republicans are suppressing the vote because of naked ballots. Literally every word that comes out of the idiot box or sponsored internet content is pure Marxist propaganda.
Law is law. Then it's the negligence of the poll worker. All ballots without proper identification post counting this now way to verify if a challenge is made should not be counted. It doesn't work that the decision is made to accept fraud rather than to not. Since every doubtful ballot counted is fraud and flies in the face of every legitimate ballot.
The problem is there is the principle of having submitted a vote completely valid (according to instructions) and it then being thrown out due to circumstances not within your own power.
The courts will have to find the balance between not disenfranchising voters who have legitimately cast ballots, and preventing ballots that could be fraud from being counted.
but when you tweet "Trump was right about mail in ballots", which he obviously was, because of the reasons listed above, it gets censored by twitter as disinformation, as did his original tweets calling out specifically the problems with it....
The only reasonable solution is a do-over with wildly upgraded security and integrity measures in place. Claim extraordinary circumstances due to covid-19 forcing unsecure mail-in voting. Postpone everything 12 months and have a special election. Freeze as much policy as possible for one year.
Institute mandatory ID, no mail-in voting or vote harvesting permitted, military chain of custody with civilian oversight and both parties fully present, no counting votes outside of business hours, and no numbers released until every county in every state has reported.
We should use this shitclusterfuckshow as an opportunity to fix our election process entirely.
Likely cremated after being shipped out of the buildings in a secure office trash truck. Yes, offices frequently have their trash handled this way, it would be simple to manage.
That just tells you there is a signature on an envelope. It doesn’t tell you anything about who filled out the ballot, who signed it and what happens to the ballot. It’s nearly useless.
So long as the envelope remained sealed until counting, it works. The principle is: you don’t sign unless it’s your vote and you sealed it in. Somebody could in theory take that to you and ask if this is your signature and you sealed a free vote.
Except of course you might have been coerced to vote falsely, or they are relying on fake signatures for fake votes.
If they can bus in democrats to fix their ballots in georgia, we can do a second election now. No reason to wait a year. The longer this is drawn out, the worse off we are.
and there's no way to identify which ballot came from which envelope.
The only way around this is a new emergency election in PA, and the Supreme Court has never ordered that for the general election (although courts have ordered new elections in some state races)
The ballots are in a pile with the rest of them. Once they hit the pile there is no way to know which ones are valid and which are spoiled. Even if it turns out that 50k votes were cast by the dead, which 50k votes to you pull from the pile? 50k random votes?
(a) Any party or political body or body of citizens which now is, or hereafter may be, entitled to have watchers at any registration, primary or election, shall also be entitled to appoint watchers who are qualified electors of the county or attorneys to represent such party or political body or body of citizens at any public session or sessions of the county board of elections, and at any computation and canvassing of returns of any primary or election and recount of ballots or recanvass of voting machines under the provisions of this act. Such watchers or attorneys may exercise the same rights as watchers at registration and polling places, but the number who may be present at any one time may be limited by the county board to not more than three for each party, political body or body of citizens.
(b) Every candidate shall be entitled to be present in person or by attorney in fact duly authorized, and to participate in any proceeding before any county board whenever any matters which may affect his candidacy are being heard, including any computation and canvassing of returns of any primary or election or recount of ballots or recanvass of voting machines affecting his candidacy.
(c) Any candidate, attorney or watcher present at any recount of ballots or recanvass of voting machines shall be entitled to examine the ballots, or the voting machine and to raise any objections regarding the same, which shall be decided by the county board, subject to appeal, in the manner provided by this act.
"but the number who may be present at any one time may be limited by the county board to not more than three for each party, political body or body of citizens."
I think that might be what they did, they kept as few gop observers as possible and make them stay 30 feet from the workers.
At this point, if we were to have any election integrity back, have each state legislature vote to award electors in these states. WI, MI and PA are all republican lead legislatures, same with GA and AZ.
Even if we just allow the state legislatures to re-vote, it'd be 29-20 with 2 toss up legislatures (MN and NE being tossups).
WI, MI, PA, GA and AZ are far too spoiled at this point that any chance of doing an in-person voting would be a waste of time. Not saying it cannot be done, it'd be unheard of but letting the State Legislature's vote would give us the edge, even if the legislatures were to take consideration from their constituents the day of.
What's to stop the democrats from pulling the same move next time? Nuclear options have consequences. Ask the dems and how changing the rules on judges worked out for them.
They have deliberately mixed all of the ballots and tossed out the verification envelopes. The fraudulent ballots have been successfully laundered. The courts will not toss tens of millions of valid ballots to eliminate an unknown number of fraudulent ballots.
The only path to victory is special elections in those states with extreme irregularities. That is absolutely what scotus should decide - but they won't.
Get ready for President Kamala Harris to declare gun violence, white supremacy, and climate change as national emergencies. Prepare for executive orders against "hate speech", gun ownership, and fossil fuels.
After Covid is over? You do realize Covid is only here to alow whats happening to happen, right? This was the plan from the beginning. Screw covid and set a revote before December.
I got to call Rush and Mark Levine tomorrow. We can win this easily, all the Republican Wisc., Penn. and Mich. Legislatures have to do is REFUSE to Certify or name the Electors. Thus no one gets to 270, if they steal Georgia, they can do the same thing. Arz. can do the same thing if they feel it was stolen.
Thus it goes to the House, right? Ten we have 27 States Delegations and I think they have 22 or 23. One may be tied. Either way, the Mich. Penn. and Wisc. Legislators would be justified in not naming the Electors. How could anyone blame them, they should all come out and say NO RECOUNT, we will not CERTIFY.
We already have something that no one has every seen before. Unimaginable fraud is afoot. Blue states that leant heavily in Trump's favour stopping ballot counting, only to resume at 4am and miraculously wipe out Trump's lead
Hey, I was praying, and it was like the Lord just gave me this. Even the Dems in their hearts know Tump won, so when the Republicans in those states REFUSE to certify Electors, no one gets 270. Of we can hold the 27 states Delegations in the House together, we win. And the Dems can't really be ma, they know Trump won.
They wont do that and evryone knows it. I mean lets be serious. If trumps team cant get these fraudulant votes excluded , one way or another, we are gonna rise up or the country is no more.
There is no avoiding mass unrest at this point, the fact is a redo will result in the same thing. As long as Trump wins it will be unrest and cities will burn.
That is precisely why we can’t use that as an excuse, Trump will win and it will cause violence, so we better be ready either way
Far higher than that. The oligarchs that control the DNC, the corporate media, Wall Street, and big tech are pulling the strings and have been all along. You think anyone actually thinks Joe Biden is capable of running a 7-11, let alone the country? No fucking way. He is an empty suit fronting for the powerful billionaires that control the world.
True, but this needs to get to the President WITHOUT it being spoken on live TV or even on Rush's show, that way the President and his men can confer with the Republican leaders in those states on this idea. All we need is one or two states to say, this was not legit, we refuse to certify the Electors, let the House decide. This is a great fall back plan for last resorts.
Yes, but he says they need to place in Republican Electors. I don't think these State Reps will have the balls to do that to be honest, AND if they did, who is to say the Electors wouldn't vote for Biden out of fear fr ones safety. BUT, getting them to simply say, we do not trust this process, therefore we refuse to name any Electors is much more reasonable for them, that way they can place a PROTEST VOTE, plus it allows all future cheating endeavors by Dems to be wrought with possible push back.
My point is, we have the 27 states in the House, we don't need 270, Biden does. These Legislatures are justified in not certifying/naming the Electors, IMHO, even Dems couldn't really condemn them (they will, but in their hearts they know).Thus, they don't have to live with YOU SCUM, you STOLE the Election for Trump, all they have to hear is, why did you not vote in the Electors, ANSWER, we did not feel they were elected in good faith. MUCH EASIER.
My point is, place it on the House in DC. Play a tough game like the Dems do. TBH, I doubt those Legislatures will vote in Republican Electors, but I think they would go for sending none. Which serves the same purpose
exactly, and this is why trump said for everyone to vote in person. He knew that mail-in ballots would not be done legally.
Also, letting the dims cheat their way to victory for the last 40 years is great because the ballots have to come from someone. If they can show that a ballot is from one of these dead/out-of-state/fake people that the dims have been cultivating over the years for fraud, they can invalidate many of the fraud votes.
Courts will take too long. Establish enough clear cases of fraud- dead people being the most obvious, people who have moved out of state the 2nd best- then put massive grass-roots pressure on GOP state reps to do the right thing. All pedes and patriots in GA, WI, PA, and MI need to start contacting their state reps now and don't stop until something is done to stop this farce. The incompetence of their state governments is making the US look like a third world shithole or commie dictatorship, incapable of or simply unwilling to put on a fair election.
SAME REPLY.........Above......Yes, but he says they need to place in Republican Electors. I don't think these State Reps will have the balls to do that to be honest, AND if they did, who is to say the Electors wouldn't vote for Biden out of fear fr ones safety. BUT, getting them to simply say, we do not trust this process, therefore we refuse to name any Electors is much more reasonable for them, that way they can place a PROTEST VOTE, plus it allows all future cheating endeavors by Dems to be wrought with possible push back.
My point is, we have the 27 states in the House, we don't need 27o, Biden does. These Legislatures are justified in not certifying/naming the Electors, IMHO, even Dems couldn't really condemn them (they will, but in their hearts they know).Thus, they don't have to live with YOU SCUM, you STOLE the Election for Trump, all they have to hear is, why did you not vote in the Electors, ANSWER, we did not feel they were elected in good faith. MUCH EASIER.
My point is, place it on the House in DC. Play a tough game like the Dems do. TBH, I doubt those Legislatures will vote in Republican Electors, but I think they would go for sending none. Which serves the same purpose
Look what found.............I found this in a March 2020 Slate(lol) report.........
As the 2016 election reminded the country, the president is chosen by the Electoral College, not the popular vote. There are 538 electors, and a candidate needs 270 of them to win. Currently, every state assigns electors to the candidate who won the popular vote statewide. (Two states add a twist that’s irrelevant here.) But the Constitution does not require states to assign their electors on the basis of the statewide vote. It does not even require a statewide vote. Rather, it explains that each state “shall appoint” its electors “in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” In other words, each state legislature gets to decide how electors are appointed—and, by extension, who gets their votes.
Today, every state legislature has delegated this task to the people. But at first, state legislatures just did it themselves. In the first presidential election, for instance, the legislatures of Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, New Jersey, and South Carolina appointed electors directly. Eventually, every state moved toward the modern system. But the Supreme Court confirmed in 1892’s McPherson v. Blacker that states were free to revert to the old method, and in 2000’s Bush v. Gore, the court reiterated this point. The majority declared that the state legislature “may, if it so chooses, select the electors itself,” and retains authority to “take back the power to appoint electors” even after switching to a statewide vote.
Put simply, it is perfectly constitutional for a state legislature to scrap statewide elections for president and appoint electors itself. It would also be constitutional for a state legislature to disregard the winner of the statewide vote and assign electors to the loser. And because the Constitution grants legislatures the authority to pick electors this way, Congress cannot stop them.
Due in part to partisan gerrymandering, Republicans control the legislatures of 28 states. Collectively, these states have 294 electoral votes. Trump himself could not cancel the entire presidential election. But he could ask these GOP-dominated legislatures to cancel their statewide presidential elections and assign their electors to him.
These State Legislatures do not have to ALLOW a STEAL JOB.
Republican state legislatures assigning pro-Trump electors against the "official" votes of their constituents is on par with stacking the Supreme Court; it's legal, but it would absolutely lead to war.
I think republican state legislatures should refuse to assign electors on the grounds that their state elections were clearly compromised by massive irregularities, which resulted from wildly unsecure elections in the wake of covid-19. Then those legislatures should petition the courts to order new special elections in those contested states. I don't know how many of those courts are Democrat controlled and would subsequently refuse to order special elections, but it would almost be better for the nation if all the cases went to scotus for decision.
At this point, I'm honestly focused on the survival of the republic, and the biggest immediate threat is election integrity. We need radical reform of our voting process to become more secure and legitimate, and we need it for this election - not "the next one".
Long story short: covid-19 forced insanely unsecure election processes, and our best path forward is to acknowledge this, postpone, and fix it.
And by the way...there is no "OFFICIAL VOTE", the State Legislature is the Official Vote, they elect the Electors, they don't even have to hold a Statewide vote, and if there is cheating they damn sure don't have to accept it. You sound like a Dem troll dude. Come on.
Thas horsecrap, they cheated bud. That is all that needs to be known, when you have THUGS who cheat in the middle of the night, then the State Legislature needs to do their damned jobs and put those clowns in check.
No, I also agree that the best way would be to not assign, but from what I have been told its not 270 that wins, but the Majority of Electors named. So I would have agreed until they stole Georgia and probably Penn., that those Two Legislatures could just not send their Electors and then Trump would win with 268, but with Penn. and Ga. stolen Trump would then be at 232, and Biden would be at 306, minus 20, 16, 16 and 10 would = 244. That is why they don't want it to be close.
So, the only way is to name them Republican Electors.
The places that don't verify voters with ID literally do. In my state, all you need to know is a name and an address and they'll give you a ballot. Some states don't even need that.
In Oregon, you only need a name and a birthday, and you can even print the ballot yourself. You don't need an address because that would suppress the homeless vote...
Certain Florida counties still have this..I'm hoping with amendment 1 passing, it changes statewide.
It shouldn't matter because the simplest way to fix much of the fraud going on Nationwide is voter ID. This was the answer many on here have been preaching for.
Maybe I should of said we shouldn't count the votes where they base it on the honor system.
We need to have government issued and provided (free of charge) voter ID for federal elections. That way no one can say that it "disenfranchises" anyone, because no one needs to pay for it.
I agree..it should be free and just imagine if there was some number that all Americans were assigned at birth that maybe we could attach to this voter ID to add another form of authenticity..
The saddest part is that a honor system is possible if everyone is reasonable.
When you and your friends are voting for the food at a gathering and the options are pizza, pasta, fries, burger whatever it's fine.
Now if you have one retard friend saying "dirt and shit powder" then there is a problem with letting him do the counting of votes.
There is no chance a mail system can work in this day and age. Too polarized. Too little attention span and many stupid people given platforms. You americans HAVE to fix this shit with some ID crap and only in-person voting for a couple cycles to restore the faith in institutions.
Even if pedojoe concedes tomorrow, the damage is done.
But here's the rub: did we ever live in that magical high-trust society capable of abiding by these honor system voting processes? Or did we merely (and incorrectly) believe America was such a place? Has this fraud been happening every election for decades, and the only reason we can see it now is cellphone cameras and the internet?
My guess is yes. There are many, many holes in our election process which didn’t become apparent until the whole country became able to view the entire process from start to finish.
Now we are in a situation where significant reform of the election process is needed to ensure integrity, however a large percentage of the entrenched government doesn’t want secure and transparent elections, so it will be difficult to pass the changes.
Fair. It’s impossible to sus out all the fakes they’ve blended in at this point.
Only way to not have a redo election is to revert the counts to their 3am totals on election night when everything shut down. Past that point, election integrity was irreparably compromised. That’s the only way to ensure that most of the country isn’t disenfranchised by cheater votes.
The only alternative is a redo election after fraud is shown like they did in North Carolina for their federal election last year.
We can’t have cheated ballots disenfranchising the fair ballots. Every single voter who voted fairly in this past election has been given the middle finger if we allow this fraudulent result to stand.
Ignore the feckless giant teeth rattling car salesman
Edit to include the preceding sentence: There are more cities if you take whites into account, the spacing of the tweet/lack of acknowledgment of the previous sentence threw me off. The explanatory variable is still missing, though now it's "Non whites (lean more Democrat) are more likely to cause irregularities" rather than "Americans in 3 Democrat states and 1 Republican state more likely to cause irregularities" Kind of proves his point, adds an even more Democratic bent IMO to the irregularities. Replies made the same mistake as me.
I kind of just jumped in too after lurking forever. On both the r/the_donald and here too. If not for Tim Pool on jre, I might've not been able to find you guys after reddit drooled swamp juice all over the subreddit.
FB and Twitter are complacent in silencing us. So you're damn right I am going to join here and get some real information so I can share it with my friends and fuck the establishment in the ass. I don't give a damn if you don't like new people- this fraud was obvious and all 68 million of us know there was fraud.
I came here to read and give an occasional supporting post. I am new and I can appreciate the need to expunge new accounts. I like being able to add some input, but I do not want to see a bunch of dirtbags spit disinformation.
Yea, he's already rushing to get back on the fence he sits on. I understand, since he begrudgingly voted for Trump. He is definitely not down for the cause or willing to throw down when the time comes.
He is definitely grateful for the Trump train that boosts his videos and shows it. Hopefully his self-preservation instincts doesn't reveal him to actually be merely a fair weather friend or a grifter.
Yeah, wtf is that all about, the 9th? Why the hell is it the 9th? I mean I'm glad and all that, but still, it should also consider the ballots "received" after the 3rd...
Seriously, US elections are some banana republic shit. Even developing countries make you show ID when you vote and they remove dead people from the registers. What a shambles
Jeez, in NZ, if you vote in advance, but die before the close of polls on Election Day (including Election Day itself), your vote is voided, and your name purged from the Electoral Roll, and marked, so you can never "vote" again.
That info is further replicated across multiple Government agencies so that once that is completed, you'd need a Court to overturn it (Most likely the High Court) – goes District Court -> High Court (serious matters/crimes) -> Court of Appeal -> Supreme Court, who work like SCOTUS, except they cannot strike down laws - Parliament is supreme.
EDIT TO ADD: If you die on Election Day, casting your vote then, and polls have not closed, above applies, too.
So at least when NZ elects insane leftists, you know that's because the public actually wanted it!
The US system is laughably bad. Voter rolls with more voters than people in the state. And "due to Covid" some states were mailing out blank ballots all over the place. There were photos of stacks of them just sitting in the communal mail area of apartment buildings. Even on reddit people were bragging about "helping" their parents or grandparents fill in ballots and going around old folk homes collecting postal ballots.
So IMO there's a good chance a lot of the ballots are actually real, but the whole voting method is totally fucked. There won't be provable fraud, so Biden will win - that's my big fear.
So at least when NZ elects insane leftists, you know that's because the public actually wanted it!
I didn't, I voted for our version of Republicans.
That said, we just told the dope smokers to fuck off about legalising cannabis, so that was good.
There won't be provable fraud, so Biden will win - that's my big fear.
It's totally human to fear - but remember, at 4:00am, the vote totals inexplicably change to Biden. The Dems are so afraid of not winning, that they're basically bringing this out into the open.
This will be litigated, and the President will win. The Dems will regret overplaying their hand. Keep the faith, and we'll get there :)
This is exactly what will happen. There’s provable fraud happening, but the real, difference-making fraud is unprovable. The Dems have been collecting ballots for weeks and once they’re in with the real ballots it’s all over.
This should be a wake up call. This country is so fucked. We are about to have an election decided by places that have 200% turnout, ballots dumped in the middle of the night, poll watchers being removed, usps fraud and just about every other type of shit you can imagine. Won’t matter though. The swamp is too fucking deep.
Seriously, US elections are some banana republic shit. Even developing countries make you show ID when you vote and they remove dead people from the registers. What a shambles
In Canada, you need photo ID (or two pieces of non-photo ID), and then you mark your ballots, and nobody gets to look at it. It's immediately placed into a machine, and scanned. So there is both a digital, and paper trail.
My understanding was PA can only accept mail-in ballots through the 6th, so could a pede fluent in legalese enlighten me WTF this November 9th deal is about?
Yes! This exactly! I highly doubt this bullshit scheme caught Trump flat footed. He probably knew well ahead of time and even had closed door meetings with top dems and told them not to try any fuckery. I'm sure plans were put in place well ahead, probably as soon as mail ballots started flooding states. And I'm sure they ID states/metro areas most likely for fuckery.
Problem with PA at least is the judge's rulings on extending deadlines, counting shit ballots, etc, means jack. Only the PA legislature can change voting protocols. And I'm sure Team Trump probably is prepping mountains of evidence of fraud if it goes to SCOTUS.
Problem with fraud is it becomes a helluva a lot harder to hide on such a large scale. Too many dead people voting, too many witnesses, too large of an operation.
The fact that we need to even go to court to prohibiting ballots without sufficient voter identification is very telling of our voting system.
We need Voter ID NOW!!!
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Problem is, they've already been counted. And before being counted the ballots were irretrievably separated from their corresponding voter identification information.
I don't think SCOTUS would give Trump the win by invalidating votes, and they won't call it fraud, BUT they won't ignore all the bullshit. They will order a revote in the fishy states.
But what about what has been counted and does anyone trust these boards to actually follow through and no come up with sufficient voter identification out of thin air.
You know, Walmart self checkouts are memed to death as being the easiest way to shoplift because you can “scan a tv as a banana.” While that’s not exactly true, since policy is to check your TV or other expensive electronics with a human in the electronics department, this has long been the method of shoplifters to steal expensive meat.
There’s also “skip scanning,” where you’ll scan your items in a certain order so that the register beeps for inexpensive items, but you pull a pricier food item over the register and into your bag without scanning it.
Even more, there’s taking an item like ribeyes, and stacking it on top of an inexpensive item like cheese, in such a way that the cheaper barcode covers the expensive bar code.
To combat this, Walmart installed more advanced self checkout registers that have cameras in both sections of barcode scanner to allow asset protection to see just exactly how you cheated your total.
Why is this technology that exists for a retailer and we have these fucking unsolicited mail in ballots with almost no method of separation or verification?
If that's the case every mail in ballot is thrown out because there is zero way to authenticate them.
We don't vote on an honor system.
They toss the envelope and mix the ballots
Courts usually don't deal with an issue until they're forced too. If the election wasn't even close, they could avoid ruling at all.
That's when you say instead of it's too late is only the votes counted at election night stand.
I expect nothing but a fair ruling from all justices. I never expect them to judge along party lines which seems to be my biggest mistake
If this was one state again, maybe. This isn't just one state.
Turncoat Roberts is not in charge anymore! And speaking of the devil, wasn't he a Bush appointee? Doesn't he realize that he wouldn't be who he is today without Bush v Gore?
If you can't close a polling location while people are still in line to vote, you can't toss out ballots in your possession just because they weren't counted on election day.
Does this allow democrats to arbitrarily stop counting votes in order to buy time for shenanigans? Yes.
That's why we need immediate reform of our entire election process to remove every single "honor system" vulnerability.
it's not about when the ballots are counted, its when they show up at the polling place to be counted. BY LAW, all ballots most be collected and brought to the pollingplace by 8:00 pm IIRC in PA, but they showed up with random boxes of ballots to be 'mixed in' with the ones still being counted at 4 am, and then the next day more where collected from drop boxed that were supposed to be SEALED SHUT on election night but where left open so people sould still drop additional ballots in the following days..
The difference between those two is this.
If I get in line at 7:45 and I dont hit the booth until 8:15. There's the whole time in standard, you are 'counted' as being on time regardless. However any vote that comes in after 11:59 should be tossed out. There should be zero reason as to why a larger state like Florida and Texas were able to finish their tallies within a few hours after polls closed. Yet states like VA, GA, NC, PA, WI, MI all had issues when it came to closing their polls and counting those absentee ballots.
So yea...11:59 if not all votes are counted by then, all votes after should be discarded. This is unheard of in our history and we've had wars that put more strain on resources than a virus.
technically, the law is that whoever is last in line at exactly 7:00p stays as the last person to vote. Not one single person is allowed to enter that line to vote after 7p.
That's why poll watchers are instructed to go outside and take photo/video of the line & last person in it exactly at 7p.
No mail-in ballots should be allowed to come in after election day. The postmark crap is where it'll get tricky... postmarked by the 3rd but could easily be backdated by someone at usps who can just change the stamp back a day or two.
Which is what Trump said last night.
IIRC They won a court order earlier this week that these votes must be kept separate, for this exact reason.
They were only there to protect muh oppressed POCs.
No fucking way he legally wins GA. Not a fucking chance.
I agree. I live in GA and travel the entire state frequently. I can tell you, The overwhelming amount of people side with Trump. Even if you include the liberal areas like Athens, Atlanta, and Gwinnett.
There is clear evidence of fraud. And More than enough suspect behavior by county officials to merit an investigation and render Biden a cheater. Nullify his run for office and give victory to the clear winner who didn’t cheat. Donald J. Trump
You need to call your state reps today and tell everyone you know to do the same. Call Kemp's office and the SOS too. They need to know we are watching how they handle this obvious corruption and that they won't be elected for anything ever again if they let Atlanta dems steal this election.
I voted early in GA (in person) and the state website says I voted absentee. I’m wondering if they are claiming in person early voting is absentee??
8k Georgia Military are supposed to come in by this evening, I would think this would benefit Trump? Are they done counting all the counties?
I would think that 8,000 service members that weren’t deployed to new conflicts would vote for the man that didn’t send them.
Right, but this is also intriguing to me and you're one of the ONLY people I've seen so much as mention this.
For decades, whenever there was a brutal tied tight race someone always talked about the overseas military ballots which were almost always strongly for a Republican (in most cases and in this one too)
Strangely enough, I have not heard this brought up once on twitter, not even here, not in hours of ABCNBCFOX etc. It's so 'unmentioned' it seems weirdly suspicious to me.
Could be withholding the facts and history in order to drop a, “BREAKING: Trump sends in the military to control vote counting” situation?
I keep seeing it here, lol
Because they're going to change the overseas military votes.
They didn't start "Trump insulted the military" for fun. They were planning to change their votes and use that as the reasoning why the military members "voted" for Biden
They have been "finding" more and more votes in Atlanta every day since Tuesday. I have no doubt they will "find" some more to overcome the military ballots. The GA GOP is getting cucked in front of the world and not doing a damn thing about it. Kemp and the GA SOS need to either step in and do their jobs or resign, and they need to do it today.
Agreed. I live in GA and am very pissed at how the State is NOT handling this.
I’m in GA - do you have a source?
I've had this playing while browsing .win this morning, they claimed it. And I've also read they're are thousands of more ballots to be counted from other counties too. Not sure if thats good or bad, red or blue counties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWXZ_3UHxe4&t=6s
What the hell is your Gov doing? And all the GOP state reps?
I saw that this morning and was disgusted. 100% of these mail in ballots are for Biden when Trump had a 300k vote lead yesterday? Bullshit...
To prevent voter identification and intimidation.
As is tradition
So they have to keep the inner envelope with the ballot at all times..makes sense. Remember when those post wall celebrities got naked to tell people not to forget the inner envelope otherwise it's a naked ballot? My first thought besides "thanks for giving me an inny" was "are democrats really that retarded?" Now I get it. They are spinning a narrative that those evil republicans are suppressing the vote because of naked ballots. Literally every word that comes out of the idiot box or sponsored internet content is pure Marxist propaganda.
Law is law. Then it's the negligence of the poll worker. All ballots without proper identification post counting this now way to verify if a challenge is made should not be counted. It doesn't work that the decision is made to accept fraud rather than to not. Since every doubtful ballot counted is fraud and flies in the face of every legitimate ballot.
The problem is there is the principle of having submitted a vote completely valid (according to instructions) and it then being thrown out due to circumstances not within your own power.
The courts will have to find the balance between not disenfranchising voters who have legitimately cast ballots, and preventing ballots that could be fraud from being counted.
but when you tweet "Trump was right about mail in ballots", which he obviously was, because of the reasons listed above, it gets censored by twitter as disinformation, as did his original tweets calling out specifically the problems with it....
The only reasonable solution is a do-over with wildly upgraded security and integrity measures in place. Claim extraordinary circumstances due to covid-19 forcing unsecure mail-in voting. Postpone everything 12 months and have a special election. Freeze as much policy as possible for one year.
Institute mandatory ID, no mail-in voting or vote harvesting permitted, military chain of custody with civilian oversight and both parties fully present, no counting votes outside of business hours, and no numbers released until every county in every state has reported.
We should use this shitclusterfuckshow as an opportunity to fix our election process entirely.
The solution to this is simple. Re-do the election, and call up the National Guard to count votes.
trash has got to go somewhere. could get some percent estimate of legit/fake ballots.
Likely cremated after being shipped out of the buildings in a secure office trash truck. Yes, offices frequently have their trash handled this way, it would be simple to manage.
That's not our problem, that's theirs.
That just tells you there is a signature on an envelope. It doesn’t tell you anything about who filled out the ballot, who signed it and what happens to the ballot. It’s nearly useless.
So long as the envelope remained sealed until counting, it works. The principle is: you don’t sign unless it’s your vote and you sealed it in. Somebody could in theory take that to you and ask if this is your signature and you sealed a free vote.
Except of course you might have been coerced to vote falsely, or they are relying on fake signatures for fake votes.
That is my point, it is just a signature, it doesn’t tell you WHO made the signature.
I kinda doubt it's retroactive. I hope so though. The article seems to imply that only future votes will be put aside and not counted.
Boy sure was easy to acquiesce to that after all the fraud that happened for days before this now
There is no Constitutional mechanism for that.
If they can bus in democrats to fix their ballots in georgia, we can do a second election now. No reason to wait a year. The longer this is drawn out, the worse off we are.
"Sure is a shame about all that fraud"
“We’ll have to watch out for it next time.”
No way it's retroactive unless Trump requests a recount.
and there's no way to identify which ballot came from which envelope.
The only way around this is a new emergency election in PA, and the Supreme Court has never ordered that for the general election (although courts have ordered new elections in some state races)
In places like Clark County NV they threw the envelopes away so no verification could be done after the fact.
Then a ballot that cannot be verified must be thrown away.
This is the way.
The ballots are in a pile with the rest of them. Once they hit the pile there is no way to know which ones are valid and which are spoiled. Even if it turns out that 50k votes were cast by the dead, which 50k votes to you pull from the pile? 50k random votes?
You have to throw them all out then, or have a new vote (in person only).
It's fucking scary, but you're right I'm afraid
Then elections need to be re-done.
Has that even been done before?
It happened just last year in North Carolina by order of a judge. Of course, that was after possible republican fraud, so it's "different".
I think there have been local elections that have had to be re-done. Might remember that wrong
Which he should. And should be granted because they violated the law directly during the count.
https://codes.findlaw.com/pa/title-25-ps-elections-electoral-districts/pa-st-sect-25-2650.html
(a) Any party or political body or body of citizens which now is, or hereafter may be, entitled to have watchers at any registration, primary or election, shall also be entitled to appoint watchers who are qualified electors of the county or attorneys to represent such party or political body or body of citizens at any public session or sessions of the county board of elections, and at any computation and canvassing of returns of any primary or election and recount of ballots or recanvass of voting machines under the provisions of this act. Such watchers or attorneys may exercise the same rights as watchers at registration and polling places, but the number who may be present at any one time may be limited by the county board to not more than three for each party, political body or body of citizens.
(b) Every candidate shall be entitled to be present in person or by attorney in fact duly authorized, and to participate in any proceeding before any county board whenever any matters which may affect his candidacy are being heard, including any computation and canvassing of returns of any primary or election or recount of ballots or recanvass of voting machines affecting his candidacy.
(c) Any candidate, attorney or watcher present at any recount of ballots or recanvass of voting machines shall be entitled to examine the ballots, or the voting machine and to raise any objections regarding the same, which shall be decided by the county board, subject to appeal, in the manner provided by this act.
"but the number who may be present at any one time may be limited by the county board to not more than three for each party, political body or body of citizens."
I think that might be what they did, they kept as few gop observers as possible and make them stay 30 feet from the workers.
Which was the point Rudy made yesterday.
limited to 3 is fine. Limited to 0 is not.
At this point, if we were to have any election integrity back, have each state legislature vote to award electors in these states. WI, MI and PA are all republican lead legislatures, same with GA and AZ.
Even if we just allow the state legislatures to re-vote, it'd be 29-20 with 2 toss up legislatures (MN and NE being tossups).
WI, MI, PA, GA and AZ are far too spoiled at this point that any chance of doing an in-person voting would be a waste of time. Not saying it cannot be done, it'd be unheard of but letting the State Legislature's vote would give us the edge, even if the legislatures were to take consideration from their constituents the day of.
What's to stop the democrats from pulling the same move next time? Nuclear options have consequences. Ask the dems and how changing the rules on judges worked out for them.
https://news.yahoo.com/sweeping-republican-state-victories-ensure-113006195.html
Hey I would think 100% of Republicans would be for Laredo, but the left....hell no. They would riot the moment it was decided
There will be a recount, so in a way it will be retroactive.
But there has to be a way to identify and invalidate those specific fraudulent votes. That's the only path to victory I am seeing now.
I just don't know a way to identify fraudulent votes, and I don't know what they are going to count as fraudulent.
Then election needs to be re-done with those kinds of checks in place
I disagree, a recount is all that is needed.
During the recount all ballots that cannot be verified should not be counted.
They have deliberately mixed all of the ballots and tossed out the verification envelopes. The fraudulent ballots have been successfully laundered. The courts will not toss tens of millions of valid ballots to eliminate an unknown number of fraudulent ballots.
The only path to victory is special elections in those states with extreme irregularities. That is absolutely what scotus should decide - but they won't.
Get ready for President Kamala Harris to declare gun violence, white supremacy, and climate change as national emergencies. Prepare for executive orders against "hate speech", gun ownership, and fossil fuels.
I agree that that should be the first option
After Covid is over? You do realize Covid is only here to alow whats happening to happen, right? This was the plan from the beginning. Screw covid and set a revote before December.
Now that they started the muh Covid narrative we can take control of it. Let's embrace it and pump the fear mongering up to 1000.
I'm willing to have Covid forever if we can also have President Trump forever.
I got to call Rush and Mark Levine tomorrow. We can win this easily, all the Republican Wisc., Penn. and Mich. Legislatures have to do is REFUSE to Certify or name the Electors. Thus no one gets to 270, if they steal Georgia, they can do the same thing. Arz. can do the same thing if they feel it was stolen.
Thus it goes to the House, right? Ten we have 27 States Delegations and I think they have 22 or 23. One may be tied. Either way, the Mich. Penn. and Wisc. Legislators would be justified in not naming the Electors. How could anyone blame them, they should all come out and say NO RECOUNT, we will not CERTIFY.
Then, Trump wins.
The only way this election ends is with something no one has ever seen before.
We already have something that no one has every seen before. Unimaginable fraud is afoot. Blue states that leant heavily in Trump's favour stopping ballot counting, only to resume at 4am and miraculously wipe out Trump's lead
None of this is precedented.
think of it this way, the last time a democrat won the presidency without both houses of congress was 1884
They have to answer for that. Who stopped the count and on what grounds?
There actually is a precedent. Mexico 1988. https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/8F3C1BCA4C53FE85EA48E51321E339E9/S0003055419000285a.pdf/fingerprints_of_fraud_evidence_from_mexicos_1988_presidential_election.pdf
Hey, I was praying, and it was like the Lord just gave me this. Even the Dems in their hearts know Tump won, so when the Republicans in those states REFUSE to certify Electors, no one gets 270. Of we can hold the 27 states Delegations in the House together, we win. And the Dems can't really be ma, they know Trump won.
They wont do that and evryone knows it. I mean lets be serious. If trumps team cant get these fraudulant votes excluded , one way or another, we are gonna rise up or the country is no more.
It's going to come down to scotus, and they need to be convinced that anything but a re-do will lead to mass unrest and eventual hot war.
There is no avoiding mass unrest at this point, the fact is a redo will result in the same thing. As long as Trump wins it will be unrest and cities will burn.
That is precisely why we can’t use that as an excuse, Trump will win and it will cause violence, so we better be ready either way
How far up does this go? DNC coordinating this? Nancy or Crying Chuck? Durban?
They all know, even the new cuck on FOX News was a tool.
It probably doesn't go up at all.
A prospiracy happens without coordination, among people who all know what needs to be done.
Far higher than that. The oligarchs that control the DNC, the corporate media, Wall Street, and big tech are pulling the strings and have been all along. You think anyone actually thinks Joe Biden is capable of running a 7-11, let alone the country? No fucking way. He is an empty suit fronting for the powerful billionaires that control the world.
True, but this needs to get to the President WITHOUT it being spoken on live TV or even on Rush's show, that way the President and his men can confer with the Republican leaders in those states on this idea. All we need is one or two states to say, this was not legit, we refuse to certify the Electors, let the House decide. This is a great fall back plan for last resorts.
Fight fire with fire.
Yes, but he says they need to place in Republican Electors. I don't think these State Reps will have the balls to do that to be honest, AND if they did, who is to say the Electors wouldn't vote for Biden out of fear fr ones safety. BUT, getting them to simply say, we do not trust this process, therefore we refuse to name any Electors is much more reasonable for them, that way they can place a PROTEST VOTE, plus it allows all future cheating endeavors by Dems to be wrought with possible push back.
My point is, we have the 27 states in the House, we don't need 270, Biden does. These Legislatures are justified in not certifying/naming the Electors, IMHO, even Dems couldn't really condemn them (they will, but in their hearts they know).Thus, they don't have to live with YOU SCUM, you STOLE the Election for Trump, all they have to hear is, why did you not vote in the Electors, ANSWER, we did not feel they were elected in good faith. MUCH EASIER.
My point is, place it on the House in DC. Play a tough game like the Dems do. TBH, I doubt those Legislatures will vote in Republican Electors, but I think they would go for sending none. Which serves the same purpose
Who cares, the black thugs who stole the Election know they cheated.
exactly, and this is why trump said for everyone to vote in person. He knew that mail-in ballots would not be done legally.
Also, letting the dims cheat their way to victory for the last 40 years is great because the ballots have to come from someone. If they can show that a ballot is from one of these dead/out-of-state/fake people that the dims have been cultivating over the years for fraud, they can invalidate many of the fraud votes.
Courts will take too long. Establish enough clear cases of fraud- dead people being the most obvious, people who have moved out of state the 2nd best- then put massive grass-roots pressure on GOP state reps to do the right thing. All pedes and patriots in GA, WI, PA, and MI need to start contacting their state reps now and don't stop until something is done to stop this farce. The incompetence of their state governments is making the US look like a third world shithole or commie dictatorship, incapable of or simply unwilling to put on a fair election.
SAME REPLY.........Above......Yes, but he says they need to place in Republican Electors. I don't think these State Reps will have the balls to do that to be honest, AND if they did, who is to say the Electors wouldn't vote for Biden out of fear fr ones safety. BUT, getting them to simply say, we do not trust this process, therefore we refuse to name any Electors is much more reasonable for them, that way they can place a PROTEST VOTE, plus it allows all future cheating endeavors by Dems to be wrought with possible push back.
My point is, we have the 27 states in the House, we don't need 27o, Biden does. These Legislatures are justified in not certifying/naming the Electors, IMHO, even Dems couldn't really condemn them (they will, but in their hearts they know).Thus, they don't have to live with YOU SCUM, you STOLE the Election for Trump, all they have to hear is, why did you not vote in the Electors, ANSWER, we did not feel they were elected in good faith. MUCH EASIER.
My point is, place it on the House in DC. Play a tough game like the Dems do. TBH, I doubt those Legislatures will vote in Republican Electors, but I think they would go for sending none. Which serves the same purpose
This is one option. If you call, I hope you get through because these are very valid and important points you're making.
Look what found.............I found this in a March 2020 Slate(lol) report.........
As the 2016 election reminded the country, the president is chosen by the Electoral College, not the popular vote. There are 538 electors, and a candidate needs 270 of them to win. Currently, every state assigns electors to the candidate who won the popular vote statewide. (Two states add a twist that’s irrelevant here.) But the Constitution does not require states to assign their electors on the basis of the statewide vote. It does not even require a statewide vote. Rather, it explains that each state “shall appoint” its electors “in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” In other words, each state legislature gets to decide how electors are appointed—and, by extension, who gets their votes.
Today, every state legislature has delegated this task to the people. But at first, state legislatures just did it themselves. In the first presidential election, for instance, the legislatures of Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, New Jersey, and South Carolina appointed electors directly. Eventually, every state moved toward the modern system. But the Supreme Court confirmed in 1892’s McPherson v. Blacker that states were free to revert to the old method, and in 2000’s Bush v. Gore, the court reiterated this point. The majority declared that the state legislature “may, if it so chooses, select the electors itself,” and retains authority to “take back the power to appoint electors” even after switching to a statewide vote.
Put simply, it is perfectly constitutional for a state legislature to scrap statewide elections for president and appoint electors itself. It would also be constitutional for a state legislature to disregard the winner of the statewide vote and assign electors to the loser. And because the Constitution grants legislatures the authority to pick electors this way, Congress cannot stop them.
Due in part to partisan gerrymandering, Republicans control the legislatures of 28 states. Collectively, these states have 294 electoral votes. Trump himself could not cancel the entire presidential election. But he could ask these GOP-dominated legislatures to cancel their statewide presidential elections and assign their electors to him.
These State Legislatures do not have to ALLOW a STEAL JOB.
Republican state legislatures assigning pro-Trump electors against the "official" votes of their constituents is on par with stacking the Supreme Court; it's legal, but it would absolutely lead to war.
I think republican state legislatures should refuse to assign electors on the grounds that their state elections were clearly compromised by massive irregularities, which resulted from wildly unsecure elections in the wake of covid-19. Then those legislatures should petition the courts to order new special elections in those contested states. I don't know how many of those courts are Democrat controlled and would subsequently refuse to order special elections, but it would almost be better for the nation if all the cases went to scotus for decision.
At this point, I'm honestly focused on the survival of the republic, and the biggest immediate threat is election integrity. We need radical reform of our voting process to become more secure and legitimate, and we need it for this election - not "the next one".
Long story short: covid-19 forced insanely unsecure election processes, and our best path forward is to acknowledge this, postpone, and fix it.
And by the way...there is no "OFFICIAL VOTE", the State Legislature is the Official Vote, they elect the Electors, they don't even have to hold a Statewide vote, and if there is cheating they damn sure don't have to accept it. You sound like a Dem troll dude. Come on.
Thas horsecrap, they cheated bud. That is all that needs to be known, when you have THUGS who cheat in the middle of the night, then the State Legislature needs to do their damned jobs and put those clowns in check.
No, I also agree that the best way would be to not assign, but from what I have been told its not 270 that wins, but the Majority of Electors named. So I would have agreed until they stole Georgia and probably Penn., that those Two Legislatures could just not send their Electors and then Trump would win with 268, but with Penn. and Ga. stolen Trump would then be at 232, and Biden would be at 306, minus 20, 16, 16 and 10 would = 244. That is why they don't want it to be close.
So, the only way is to name them Republican Electors.
How are the State Delegates calculated?
The State Houses in all three are Republican led...LOL
The places that don't verify voters with ID literally do. In my state, all you need to know is a name and an address and they'll give you a ballot. Some states don't even need that.
In Oregon, you only need a name and a birthday, and you can even print the ballot yourself. You don't need an address because that would suppress the homeless vote...
*Oregon has been 100% vote by mail since 2000.
Certain Florida counties still have this..I'm hoping with amendment 1 passing, it changes statewide.
It shouldn't matter because the simplest way to fix much of the fraud going on Nationwide is voter ID. This was the answer many on here have been preaching for.
Maybe I should of said we shouldn't count the votes where they base it on the honor system.
We need to have government issued and provided (free of charge) voter ID for federal elections. That way no one can say that it "disenfranchises" anyone, because no one needs to pay for it.
I agree..it should be free and just imagine if there was some number that all Americans were assigned at birth that maybe we could attach to this voter ID to add another form of authenticity..
a polaroid of the voter should be included with every ballot. Or at minimum a fingerprint.
good luck faking that, or duplicating votes.
The saddest part is that a honor system is possible if everyone is reasonable.
When you and your friends are voting for the food at a gathering and the options are pizza, pasta, fries, burger whatever it's fine.
Now if you have one retard friend saying "dirt and shit powder" then there is a problem with letting him do the counting of votes.
There is no chance a mail system can work in this day and age. Too polarized. Too little attention span and many stupid people given platforms. You americans HAVE to fix this shit with some ID crap and only in-person voting for a couple cycles to restore the faith in institutions.
Even if pedojoe concedes tomorrow, the damage is done.
100%.
But here's the rub: did we ever live in that magical high-trust society capable of abiding by these honor system voting processes? Or did we merely (and incorrectly) believe America was such a place? Has this fraud been happening every election for decades, and the only reason we can see it now is cellphone cameras and the internet?
I don't know, but early on, not just on America, people getting caught doing shit didn't just get an out of jail free card from the DA.
My guess is yes. There are many, many holes in our election process which didn’t become apparent until the whole country became able to view the entire process from start to finish.
Now we are in a situation where significant reform of the election process is needed to ensure integrity, however a large percentage of the entrenched government doesn’t want secure and transparent elections, so it will be difficult to pass the changes.
Concedes? He'll claim victory tomorrow. And the worst part is when he says he won the senate race!
It can be: recount under these rules. Trump wins.
Fair. It’s impossible to sus out all the fakes they’ve blended in at this point.
Only way to not have a redo election is to revert the counts to their 3am totals on election night when everything shut down. Past that point, election integrity was irreparably compromised. That’s the only way to ensure that most of the country isn’t disenfranchised by cheater votes.
I think you could make an argument that if the vote counting team goes home for the night, the election is done.
https://thedonald.win/p/11PpBIG1Vk/please-look-at-this-i-think-the-/c/
Not necessarily. If all official ballots are watermarked, the DHS will give the DNC a well-deserved and long-overdue assfucking.
keyword IF
Cut it with that shit. That's not a thing. DHS doesn't print ballots.
My claim is not that the DHS printed ballots.
https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2020-10/OIG-21-01-Oct20.pdf
My claim is that the DHS came up with the means to secure the integrity of the election, which may include mail-in ballots through CISA
CISA makes reports and makes documents like this. They don't actually DO anything. Government agencies don't actually DO anything.
This would be akin to closing a polling location while voters are still in line. Can't be done.
The only alternative is a redo election after fraud is shown like they did in North Carolina for their federal election last year.
We can’t have cheated ballots disenfranchising the fair ballots. Every single voter who voted fairly in this past election has been given the middle finger if we allow this fraudulent result to stand.
How would they do that? Couldnt we find them out and toss them?
So why would they be counted?
How do we know there are fraudulent votes?
I get states rights and everything yada yada, but federal elections should be federally controlled. Would fix all the BS
Yes I think we're finally leading that way. National voting security. Not just ID but all kinds of standard rules for federal elections.
either way there will be corruption
GET FUCKING HYPED!! We might have to wait another week for them to review all the ballots again by this new standard, but this is fantastic news.
"Donald Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Joe Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia."
Ignore the feckless giant teeth rattling car salesman
Edit to include the preceding sentence: There are more cities if you take whites into account, the spacing of the tweet/lack of acknowledgment of the previous sentence threw me off. The explanatory variable is still missing, though now it's "Non whites (lean more Democrat) are more likely to cause irregularities" rather than "Americans in 3 Democrat states and 1 Republican state more likely to cause irregularities" Kind of proves his point, adds an even more Democratic bent IMO to the irregularities. Replies made the same mistake as me.
Looking at the responses, I don’t think that tweet is correct .
Edited. they all fell into the same trap as me
for fucks sake, shut the fuck up. Stop fucking spamming every comment on every thread.
I really hate that they won't at least give him a time out for spamming.
I see he has a ton of this site's karma to cash in but holy shit it should be totally against the rules to spam as hard as he is.
Copypasta on every post.
You're a sad little man, aren't you?
I kind of just jumped in too after lurking forever. On both the r/the_donald and here too. If not for Tim Pool on jre, I might've not been able to find you guys after reddit drooled swamp juice all over the subreddit.
FB and Twitter are complacent in silencing us. So you're damn right I am going to join here and get some real information so I can share it with my friends and fuck the establishment in the ass. I don't give a damn if you don't like new people- this fraud was obvious and all 68 million of us know there was fraud.
It's not new people that's the issue, there was a flood of trolling earlier and it was making comments hard to go through.
So naturally this fucknut decides to take it upon himself to troll everyone with the new tag.
I came here to read and give an occasional supporting post. I am new and I can appreciate the need to expunge new accounts. I like being able to add some input, but I do not want to see a bunch of dirtbags spit disinformation.
Just think of them as ambient crack heads unfortunately, we welcome all real new maga frens. Being new isn't a crime.
He's doing it to everyone, irrespective of their post content. Mods should really tell him to knock it the fuck off
Yea, he's already rushing to get back on the fence he sits on. I understand, since he begrudgingly voted for Trump. He is definitely not down for the cause or willing to throw down when the time comes.
He is definitely grateful for the Trump train that boosts his videos and shows it. Hopefully his self-preservation instincts doesn't reveal him to actually be merely a fair weather friend or a grifter.
HEY MODS, DEPORT THIS GASLIGHTING SHILL ALREADY!
Do you know where you are?
court order: https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1604643146820.png
The sheriff that wouldn't enforce in philly was previously charged with mail theft (lol)
https://archive.is/bZTwH
Can't make this shit up.
I read up on her. She's a proper piece of shit and her shenanigans need to be known.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/03/11/rochelle-bilal-sheriff-office/
Also see this https://thedonald.win/p/11PpKZtiYH/biden-wont-win-pa-this-aint-even/
More judges overstepping their power and encroaching on legislature power by making laws.
It’s already a fucking loss. Ballots received after 11/9.
Yeah, wtf is that all about, the 9th? Why the hell is it the 9th? I mean I'm glad and all that, but still, it should also consider the ballots "received" after the 3rd...
Dude, this is annoying, in trying to scour thedonald.win for info and have to see your posts 30 times. You are being counter productive.
You're a fucking loser.
GTFO, I see you all over the recent posts, how the hell aren't you deported yet?
He has a fuck ton of karma to cash in
This is the first step.
The Hawaiian judge says otherwise, drumpfie.
im sure a bunch of these ballots are going to be found, they literally have days and days to go and find them...
https://thedonald.win/p/11PpKZtiYH/biden-wont-win-pa-this-aint-even/
Shame that ever needed to go to court
Seriously, US elections are some banana republic shit. Even developing countries make you show ID when you vote and they remove dead people from the registers. What a shambles
Jeez, in NZ, if you vote in advance, but die before the close of polls on Election Day (including Election Day itself), your vote is voided, and your name purged from the Electoral Roll, and marked, so you can never "vote" again.
That info is further replicated across multiple Government agencies so that once that is completed, you'd need a Court to overturn it (Most likely the High Court) – goes District Court -> High Court (serious matters/crimes) -> Court of Appeal -> Supreme Court, who work like SCOTUS, except they cannot strike down laws - Parliament is supreme.
EDIT TO ADD: If you die on Election Day, casting your vote then, and polls have not closed, above applies, too.
So at least when NZ elects insane leftists, you know that's because the public actually wanted it!
The US system is laughably bad. Voter rolls with more voters than people in the state. And "due to Covid" some states were mailing out blank ballots all over the place. There were photos of stacks of them just sitting in the communal mail area of apartment buildings. Even on reddit people were bragging about "helping" their parents or grandparents fill in ballots and going around old folk homes collecting postal ballots.
So IMO there's a good chance a lot of the ballots are actually real, but the whole voting method is totally fucked. There won't be provable fraud, so Biden will win - that's my big fear.
I didn't, I voted for our version of Republicans.
That said, we just told the dope smokers to fuck off about legalising cannabis, so that was good.
It's totally human to fear - but remember, at 4:00am, the vote totals inexplicably change to Biden. The Dems are so afraid of not winning, that they're basically bringing this out into the open.
This will be litigated, and the President will win. The Dems will regret overplaying their hand. Keep the faith, and we'll get there :)
I admire your optimism. Hopefully somebody making the decisions (courts, judges, AG, governors etc) are not never-Trumper shitheads
This is exactly what will happen. There’s provable fraud happening, but the real, difference-making fraud is unprovable. The Dems have been collecting ballots for weeks and once they’re in with the real ballots it’s all over.
This should be a wake up call. This country is so fucked. We are about to have an election decided by places that have 200% turnout, ballots dumped in the middle of the night, poll watchers being removed, usps fraud and just about every other type of shit you can imagine. Won’t matter though. The swamp is too fucking deep.
Who would have thought US elections are less truthworthy than the ones in Mexico. At least they have in-person voting and compulsory ID.
I mean, their politicians get assassinated for being against the cartels, but at least their actual elections have integrity
Democrats here rule that as entirely racist. Every bit of what you said
Well, they can go fuck themselves :)
In Canada, you need photo ID (or two pieces of non-photo ID), and then you mark your ballots, and nobody gets to look at it. It's immediately placed into a machine, and scanned. So there is both a digital, and paper trail.
Wtf why does the US require to open them? This is God damn bananas
Yeah. This is a shit show and why I’ve never voted before this year.
Retroactive or bust
Anything received after nov 3 should be thrown out. Fuck this 3 extra days to fraud shit.
They weren't following that ruling
So.....all the massive fraud that already happened is protected. Gonna need to do more.
Applies to ballots received a week and a half after election day...
With every step DJT takes, the noose tightens around the Democrats' necks.
Rope they gladly paid out, never to realise it was for their own necks!
Juan's mark of X ain't gonna cut it, lefties .. you owe him and his 5 anchors another cervesa.
so what about the ones already counted?
Presumably, the order requires that those be un-counted.
(i'm sure the vote-counters in Penn will try to squirm their way around that without getting caught.........)
The article clearly states this order only affects votes from nov 9th onwards.
Crap. Then the order won't be much help.
Hawaii judge just overturned it.
Well there goes your 700.000 ballots tom Wolf
We'll let you know on the 10th when this order actually starts affecting it
Bullshit. It's only for votes received after November 9th. Who gives a fuck?
My understanding was PA can only accept mail-in ballots through the 6th, so could a pede fluent in legalese enlighten me WTF this November 9th deal is about?
Maybe to allow military votes
Did anyone read? This isx from ballots counted 11/9/20 and forward.
Exactly nobody read the dam article. This is useless.
Then they can't be counted, period. No matter what sort of foolery they produce...
Yes! This exactly! I highly doubt this bullshit scheme caught Trump flat footed. He probably knew well ahead of time and even had closed door meetings with top dems and told them not to try any fuckery. I'm sure plans were put in place well ahead, probably as soon as mail ballots started flooding states. And I'm sure they ID states/metro areas most likely for fuckery.
Problem with PA at least is the judge's rulings on extending deadlines, counting shit ballots, etc, means jack. Only the PA legislature can change voting protocols. And I'm sure Team Trump probably is prepping mountains of evidence of fraud if it goes to SCOTUS.
Problem with fraud is it becomes a helluva a lot harder to hide on such a large scale. Too many dead people voting, too many witnesses, too large of an operation.
Relax. Trust. Pray. And never, ever give up!
The law is NOT enough to stop Democrat city officials from cheating :
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2017/12/15/experts-browards-elections-chief-broke-law-in-destroying-ballots-150258
Brenda Snipes (friend of DNC cheated many times and was found guilty in court... and was rewarded by the party)
NOW it makes much more sensw when he was saying "Stop the count!" - without context, it sounded almost tantrum-like to a lot of people.
The fact that we need to even go to court to prohibiting ballots without sufficient voter identification is very telling of our voting system.
We need Voter ID NOW!!!
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Court order not being followed, I heard. If so, where is the rule of law?
Problem is, they've already been counted. And before being counted the ballots were irretrievably separated from their corresponding voter identification information.
Heres an idea: Complete redo of election with none of the bullshit mail votes. Show the fuck up, vote, and go home. Nothing else.
I don't think SCOTUS would give Trump the win by invalidating votes, and they won't call it fraud, BUT they won't ignore all the bullshit. They will order a revote in the fishy states.
i'll wait two hours for this story to "settle" .
Someone needs to go and burn the mail in fake ballots. That would force a new election.
How do you enforce that now that over a million have been counted and separted from their envelopes?
Only ballots that they receive between Nov 9th and 12th? What an absolute fracking joke.
But what about what has been counted and does anyone trust these boards to actually follow through and no come up with sufficient voter identification out of thin air.
I really don't see this as good news. I'm sure they'll have already stolen Penn by then. Hooray it'll be stopped in 3 days! SMH.
Am I reading this correctly? The order is for all votes received November 10 and beyond or somesuch? What good is that?
Great news but it won’t matter with GA. AZ numbers dropping off too. I’m fucking pissed
Yea that is hard to do if you are not allowed to get inside the see the ballots.
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This is for Nov 9, 10, 11?
I thought PA already had to separate these votes?
Invalidate the deceased voters!!! It’s their skeleton key. LBJ had em voting for 200 years. Literally!!
You know, Walmart self checkouts are memed to death as being the easiest way to shoplift because you can “scan a tv as a banana.” While that’s not exactly true, since policy is to check your TV or other expensive electronics with a human in the electronics department, this has long been the method of shoplifters to steal expensive meat.
There’s also “skip scanning,” where you’ll scan your items in a certain order so that the register beeps for inexpensive items, but you pull a pricier food item over the register and into your bag without scanning it.
Even more, there’s taking an item like ribeyes, and stacking it on top of an inexpensive item like cheese, in such a way that the cheaper barcode covers the expensive bar code.
To combat this, Walmart installed more advanced self checkout registers that have cameras in both sections of barcode scanner to allow asset protection to see just exactly how you cheated your total.
Why is this technology that exists for a retailer and we have these fucking unsolicited mail in ballots with almost no method of separation or verification?
Because they don't want you to be able to verify it. Simple as.
These aren't flaws in the system, they are features. It's just everyone is now starting to see it.
Because democrats have no morals. We call those conservatives.
Signatures NEED TO MATCH. As long as they allow ballots where signatures don’t match there is fraud!!!!
We need to disqualify Biden for Presidency once his arrested campaign staffer Dallas Jones is found guilty of election fraud
Dare I hope?