Gaetz is right. I have been hearing about Demonrat fraud since the Kennedy election 60 years ago. We are finally in a position to prove it this time if we don't cave in but fight to the very end. If we bow out this time, the Republican Party will be destroyed and we will have a 1 party dictatorship forever.
They proved fraud back then as well, but there is precedent that there is always fraud. They arrest and jail the people that committed the fraud and then everyone says "Weeeeeelllll.... I mean... this person already took office. And, c'mon, you really didn't prove that THEY committed fraud, just some lone wolf types. You can't fault them for it, so we'll keep them in office. We don't want to upset the voters."
Let's hope that Trump has more evidence or fights the cases faster this time around. I don't care if people call me a "Doomer", if Biden is inaugurated, no legal rulings will save us.
Remember when Trump brought up pardoning himself? They will say "Trump was going to do it, and you all didn't complain. Biden is pardoning himself for fraud."
Yes, they have stolen elections at the state level multiple times in the past. They pull out boxes of fake ballots, or demand recounts until they win. Even when there is more votes than registered voters, people just let it go. They've done it in WA state, and the Rep who initially won the election didn't have the backing and support to demand an investigation after the "recount" turned up extra Dem votes. Judges and people in charge should have seen the fraud and investigated, instead the Dems get away with anything and here we are, banana republic.
The burden of proof for democracy is that the vote was cast legitimately. Mail ins would require verification with the voter to ensure they were the one who cast the ballot and their ballot was not altered. Right now these absentee ballots are nothing more than pieces of paper that somehow were marked and somehow arrived to be counted.
They'll say you can't prove there's no fraud because you can't prove a negative.
You can prove a negative - by excluding all other possibilities.
If you have observer verified, video taped everything from cast through counting then you've proven there's no fraud because there was never an opportunity to commit it.
This is easy with normal, plain elections. Show up, observe the polls all day, observe the counting. You can't 'find' a box of votes because there was never a time where the votes were out of sight.
The fact that they are sending votes unobserved to counting centers is in itself an attack on democracy.
It can be demonstrated in court how to commit fraud. We can use the same methods to show manipulation of electronic records, fake ballots and dumping given the large time frames involved. If the fraud took place in span of 2-3 hours I think would be more difficult, but they had 2-3 days to commit the steal.
Gaetz is right. I have been hearing about Demonrat fraud since the Kennedy election 60 years ago. We are finally in a position to prove it this time if we don't cave in but fight to the very end. If we bow out this time, the Republican Party will be destroyed and we will have a 1 party dictatorship forever.
They proved fraud back then as well, but there is precedent that there is always fraud. They arrest and jail the people that committed the fraud and then everyone says "Weeeeeelllll.... I mean... this person already took office. And, c'mon, you really didn't prove that THEY committed fraud, just some lone wolf types. You can't fault them for it, so we'll keep them in office. We don't want to upset the voters."
Let's hope that Trump has more evidence or fights the cases faster this time around. I don't care if people call me a "Doomer", if Biden is inaugurated, no legal rulings will save us.
Remember when Trump brought up pardoning himself? They will say "Trump was going to do it, and you all didn't complain. Biden is pardoning himself for fraud."
That's not doomerism, it's just realistic. If we don't meet the January deadline, it's over. That's the clock we're playing by.
Yes, they have stolen elections at the state level multiple times in the past. They pull out boxes of fake ballots, or demand recounts until they win. Even when there is more votes than registered voters, people just let it go. They've done it in WA state, and the Rep who initially won the election didn't have the backing and support to demand an investigation after the "recount" turned up extra Dem votes. Judges and people in charge should have seen the fraud and investigated, instead the Dems get away with anything and here we are, banana republic.
Remember they tried this in Florida in 2018 with boxes of ballots being found in Broward county.
DeSantis fired the Democrat bitch from there and now had zero problems.
You may remember her from her feature film, Beetlejuice.
The burden of proof for democracy is that the vote was cast legitimately. Mail ins would require verification with the voter to ensure they were the one who cast the ballot and their ballot was not altered. Right now these absentee ballots are nothing more than pieces of paper that somehow were marked and somehow arrived to be counted.
They'll say you can't prove there's no fraud because you can't prove a negative.
You can prove a negative - by excluding all other possibilities.
If you have observer verified, video taped everything from cast through counting then you've proven there's no fraud because there was never an opportunity to commit it.
This is easy with normal, plain elections. Show up, observe the polls all day, observe the counting. You can't 'find' a box of votes because there was never a time where the votes were out of sight.
The fact that they are sending votes unobserved to counting centers is in itself an attack on democracy.
Exactly, you don’t know if they are even votes. Or just blank ballots they filled out from 9pm-4am and brought over.
That is why you reach out to these voters and talk to them. Fake voters tell no tales.
That's how it should be, but truthfully, it's the opposite for us in court right now
It can be demonstrated in court how to commit fraud. We can use the same methods to show manipulation of electronic records, fake ballots and dumping given the large time frames involved. If the fraud took place in span of 2-3 hours I think would be more difficult, but they had 2-3 days to commit the steal.