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How the fuck did Biden catch up on the statewide vote gap while democrat down ticket candidates still lost?
People almost never go split ballot let alone president only. MOST people vote down ballot. A lot of these "extra' Biden votes are just for him, not his congress candidates or senators or judges etc.
More importantly, if people do go split ballot, it's because they took the time to research candidates and decide which ones they liked. No one's going to vote in every Republican candidate EXCEPT Trump if they've done more than just cursory research, even if they LIKE the swamp.
I'm not familiar with how long american ballots are but I've heard stories.
In canada we only elect MPs (house of reps equivalent) so everyone knows going in what party they'll vote for. My province is an exception where we elect our senators but only when there is a vacancy and it's not legally binding, just tradition. Honestly so many idiots out there I think party affiliation should be taken off the ballot.
The PA Supreme Court unconstitutionally changing this law may have been the best thing to happen to us. The law says that any violation of the law itself nullifies the law, and its the law that allows mail in ballots to begin with.
From now on the government needs to be told to have every ballot back to their proper election office at least one week before Election Day. After Election Day is unacceptable.
Too late. The entire precinct must be thrown out. They are ALL spoiled.
EDIT to reply to your edit: Postal workers have been backdating the postmarks, and poll workers have been getting random bags of ballots and claiming they were already in by 8pm.
But if there's an easier way to show the Democrats cheated significantly so we can declare a PA winner & move on to cleaning up other states...............
You should have to show up with voter ID, photo ID (government issued), and last 4 digits of social security #.
Also, they need to ask a few simple questions like...
-Who is the governor of your state?
-Who is the Senate majority leader?
-Who is the house majority leader?
-What date was the Declaration of Independence ratified?
If you can't answer those correctly, your vote should be disqualified. You can't be trusted to vote responsibly. Low information votes are just as bad as fraudulent votes.
Exactly right. IF you vote absentee, you are still required to obtain a ballot from the county official somehow in person -either from a spouse or agent, etc.
And it comes with a plastic envelope that gets priority franking.
Ordinary votes being "mailed in" <cough cough> is the most asinine thing in human history.
I was in the military and voted absentee, and during that time I had the opportunity to serve as an exchange personnel with the Canadian Forces. And in Canada, along with the fact that they had to show ID at the polls, even absentee voters didn't mail in their ballots. They voted at a remote site, IN-PERSON, and then their votes were processed to the correct riding (district).
Mail in ballots should only be issued to those who can submit a Request to get one because they physically cannot be present during election day. My state sent out applications to every registered voter practically begging for you to take a mail in ballot Because MUY Covid.
They did not have to go that far. They could have just had people still request absentee ballots if they were concerned about Covid and follow the normal process for absentee ballots. Never should have been every single person gets mailed a ballot.
Apparently they thought 30+ years of the 1982 Consent Pact that prevented GOP from challenging voter fraud has made the party soft and unwilling to do anything even after expiring.
Why would they ever make a pact like that? Just stupid. Prevented from challenging voter fraud? That leaves them wide open to be victims of voter fraud.
The way they cheat is to figure out the in person results, then add in all the mail in's at the end... giving them the chance to find out how many they need to find to flip the vote.
Trump got so many votes, they had to cheat so badly, that it became blatantly obvious.
In the past, everyone suspected it, but could never really prove it.
This time is different, they've been busted by someone with the balls to set them up and stop them.
I'm not gonna lie , everyone but Alito and Clarence worries me a bit. Hopefully they realize the magnitude of what's being perpetrated and the fact that Scotus will be packed and a joke if they rule for Joepedo
Assuming the 3 Scoops Justices are actual Constitutionatlists, they should side with the Republicans because how electors are decided is expressly on the state legislature per Article II Sect 1 Clause 2. Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas said that state courts cannot interpret much of "intended" meaning of state election legislation in Bush v Gore.
I’ve been trying to understand that this more. Does this mean that the state legislature would have to make a move and say that they’re disregarding the ballots and that the legislature will make the vote for president.
If so, that’s a big gamble that the state legislators will have to make. Since, if they make the call it could piss off a lot of their voters. Then again, nobody cares about who is on the state legislature, so it won’t matter.
The left will do anything to stop Orange Man. Even if that means blatantly rigging the election. They don't love America and the principles behind it. Undermining OUR country IS their goal.
When was the last time they were held accountable? When Hillary went to jail for the email server? They think they are above the law and I am worried that they are right.
And the guy in the Hawaain shirt in the Infowars B show confirming a conspiracy theory from treeoflberty.com that said he was leaked info from a super secret AP news distribution site saying the MSM was covering up a widely released news story that the feds watermarked ballets (printed by states) is just a feel good story.
I saw somewhere the the usps takes photos of each piece of mail that comes through after the anthrax scare of 2001. Could cross reference the return address to the voter count db?
This is correct. After my mailman decided to return to sender every single check I was mailed last year I signed up for the USPS informed delivery service. It's free and works off their existing system. They will email you every day an image of all mail that's supposed to go to your mailbox.
BTW that mailman is no longer in their employ. Ironically he was better at not mixing up addresses.
USPS horror story time. Back in my junior senior year of high school, every college in the area was basically sending out pamphlets and why you should apply to them. The college had basically rubber band it together a whole bunch of pamphlets that all went through the town I lived in.
Mine happen to be on the top. The dumbasses in the local post office were too stupid or lazy to remove the rubber band to separate the pile to be delivered to each person’s mailbox. I pulled mine off the top stuck it back in the mailbox with a note saying wrong address. Female care refused to pick it up, bring it back to the post office to be sorted and re-mailed out. I called the post office and the local postmaster said that that was impossible for them to do.
The USPS does this as well. It would be date stamped. We have had so many issues with our Mail delivery we get an email with the upcoming mail delivery.
Well if whistleblower reports are true they're segregating the ballots and then manually backdating them. They're handling ballot mail differently it sounds like
This is exactly what they fucking did. And their cheating scheme kickoff was a fucking virus that came from China. It didn't appear and "opportunity knocked." That was part of the deal. The Chinese needed rid of Trumps hard stance on trade and the Dems needed power. Probably all planned out on a PowerPoint and sold like a RonCo food dehydrator. But I got news for all you mother-fuckers. If you think there weren't any Repubs in on this fucking sham, your dead ass wrong. And its probably the ones barking the most, if the Dems have taught us anything.
It is a very valid possibility. We look at the number of ballots that were cast on election day and the very size believe Trump had in nearly all these contested states, in the hundreds of thousands of votes even greater than Obama‘s lead in many cases, then all the sudden hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots all for Joe Biden magically appear at all hours of the night and by the next day suddenly the lead has shrunk massively, couple that with the occasional we’re just gonna stop counting for a while because.
There are no do-overs in presidential elections. The constitution doesn't allow for it. The 12th amendment says that if there's no majority by the deadline, then the state house of representatives vote for the president, and that is majority Republican, meaning Trump wins.
Dunno about that, these shitshow states are run by Democrats and they will not allow anyone to change the system that has been rigged in their favor. And the Feds can't do anything about it bc it's specifically in the Constitution that the states handle the elections how they want to handle them.
Not nearly as orchestrated as several Dem counties stopping their counts in key swing states then resuming with Trump losing massive leads in all of them. But yeah sure.
Mail cover is a law enforcement investigative technique in which the United States Postal Service, acting at the request of a law enforcement agency, records information from the outside of letters and parcels before they are delivered and then sends the information to the agency that requested it.[1] The Postal Service grants mail cover surveillance requests for about 30 days and may extend them for up to 120 days.
Mail covers can be requested to investigate criminal activity or to protect national security.
Mail cover is defined by the U.S. Postal Regulations 39 CFR 233.3[2] and the Internal Revenue Manual[3] as follows:
Mail cover is the process by which a nonconsensual record is made of any data appearing on the outside cover of sealed or unsealed mail; or by which a record is made of the contents of any unsealed mail, as allowed by law, to obtain information to protect national security; locate a fugitive; obtain evidence of the commission or attempted commission of a crime; obtain evidence of a violation or attempted violation of a postal statute; or assist in the identification of property, proceeds, or assets forfeitable under law.
Trump's team and the GOP need to file for Mail cover for everything that came in over the last 30 days to have the data.
We can do some very useful things with this, even if there aren't definite identifying marks. When you are able to determine the amount of ballots which were returned actually through the mail and compare with the number of supposedly mailed in ballots, large discrepancies will surface - in particular areas of fraud. This is extremely powerful evidence, but we need all of these photos to be retained starting (literally) yesterday.
No, it would devolve to the state legislature, which ultimately is the body that appoints electors. All the disputed states except Nevada are Republican dominated state legislatures
Seems like it. Now, the PA General Assembly is not going to ignore the popular vote of the PA. PA since the very first election in 1788 has held a popular vote to choose electors. It’s part of their tradition. However, if the courts determine that the entire election (in PA) can’t be trusted, then there are provisions for a re-vote on state/federal level down ballot items, but the presidency is different than all those other elections. The presidential popular election exists at the pleasure of the state legislature. If the popular vote does not exist, there is no structure for revoting: the day is set by federal statute as the first Tuesday in November. Without a popular vote, it goes directly to the state legislature to vote on. AFAIK there is NO legal basis for what to do next besides some foundational constitutional texts, and all they say is “the state legislatures choose the electors.” So, a simple majority in both houses would seem to do the trick.
But couldn't the state leg decide they want to hold a revote as their method of deciding new electors? I don't see a legal/constitutional reason they can't.
Electors don't vote on party lines, the state legislature for each state tells the electors how to vote.
If they attempt to vote any other way, the state lege can step in and tell the Electoral College to dismiss that vote and elector
The U.S. Supreme Court has unanimously upheld laws across the country that remove or punish rogue Electoral College delegates who refuse to cast their votes for the presidential candidate they were pledged to support.
The decision Monday was a loss for "faithless electors," who argued that under the Constitution they have discretion to decide which candidate to support.
Writing for the court, Justice Elena Kagan said Electoral College delegates have "no ground for reversing"
Kagan's opinion noted that the original Electoral College system created by the framers of the Constitution failed to anticipate the growth of political parties. By 1796, the first contested election after George Washington's retirement, the system exploded in disarray, with two consecutive Electoral College "fiascos."
That led to passage of the 12th Amendment in 1804, "facilitating the Electoral College ... as a mechanism not for deliberation but for party line voting," Kagan wrote.
Nothing in the Constitution prevents the states from "taking away presidential electors' voting discretion..."
Hopefully in person this time. If you are too scared of the flu to go vote, you don’t get your voice heard. Plain and simple. Tens of millions of people voted and hundreds of thousands protested, i mean rioted, over the summer.
They aren't even scared of the virus they're just doing it because they hate our POTUS, I'm already seeing people saying the virus isn't that serious on sports forums, when before the election they were shitting their pants and blaming Trump for everything.
Last time I saw my liberal uncle in Dallas he was hyperventilating about hand sanitizers and masks. Today he said he quarantined with covid, it’s nothing he’s just bored.
If they are so scared, the local government can rent the hazmat suit. It doesn't cost that much. The hazmat suits can be used for something else later for the local government or sell them on eBay.
It isn't an all or nothing deal. If the in person voting isn't demonstrated to be tainted, then it can remain. What would get purged would be what is demonstrably poisoned. SCOTUS would more likely take the route that disenfranchises the least amount of voters.
the logical thing to assume that if they ignored the court order, then the supremes could potentially just invalidate ALL mail in ballots in the state. i mean surely that’s the only possible option right? PA cant just say oops we forgot and then be allowed to just let the ballot count stand right? lmao
The Republicans are not our friends. They are just the least heinous enemy.
Republicans as a whole are spineless and unwilling to fight. They're controlled opposition at best. Handing this over to them could very well not go the way that it should by all rights go.
It reads like there was no court order, just guidance from the secretary that SCOTUS assumed would be followed when they made previous decision not to rule before election with the understanding any constitutional violations could be remedied later. So I don’t think they violated a court order, bu5 Judges don’t like to feel mislead so this could be significant.
Completely agree. Except, I'm not so sure that all of them hate our country and culture. I think the CCP has so much dirt on people like Pelosi and Biden and the democrat leadership that they have been broken and forced into this. This seems completely manufactured by the CCP to me.
If that’s the goal then they fucked up, because all they have done is proven that our electoral system is in dire need of an overhaul - and it WILL be overhauled now - so that the Marxists will never be able to steal another election again.
Voted in CA, it felt the same way. Very strange feeling in the polling place. When I went to submit my ballot, the worker made the biggest show if leaning over and seeing who I voted for.
Maybe by looking at the outstanding ballots at a given time and then the decrease in that number at a later time. Even if that is mixed with non outstanding you should get an idea ya?
Too late, not what the scotus ordered so those aren't fraudulent now just accept it disregard our hundreds of thousands of harvested ballots and 100% Biden spikes at 4am, scotus didn't ask about them you shouldn't either /s
The stamp on the ballot is irrelevant. It only matters when it was delivered.
Don't forget the deadline for delivery in Pennsylvania was 8:00 p.m. Nearly half a million ballots were delivered to the convention center at 4:00 a.m. the next day
They would have to have a system for marking when they were received. Either they forged that, never marked them received, or received them late. All three could be deduced scientifically.
I cant wait til more legal information comes out. I need to hear what scotus thinks about all of this. I know they had them sort election day ballots from after 8pm ballots in pennsylvania, but I want more so badly. I want to know democracy is still alive.
I think the bigger worry was how do we stop them from taking a ballot they received the day after the election and just saying it was received before 8pm Election Day?
Weren’t they updating their election website with the totals? There’s probably a backlog of the totals at that time. Just reverse back to that OR more likely you revote the state with NO MAIL IN VOTES ONLY ABSENTEE.
Honestly I wouldn't even do absentee because they would fuck that up too. The only voters that should be able to vote remotly are military stationed overseas and in that case they vote on base. Those ballots are saved to send back later to make sure they don't "disappear" and the totals are sent over instead.
Anyone else? Make a plan to get your ass into a line because you can be there.
Early voting shouldn't be legal, either. If you can't bother to make it to the polls on election day, your vote must not be that important to you. We'll make it a Federal Holiday, just to make it easier.
Can’t get away with that either because they were updating vote totals in real time. So if we know they were claiming Trump had 3 million votes at 8pm but try to disqualify that would leave him with less than that amount, we would know they stacked the “late” pile with too many Trump votes.
The fact that they were updating vote counts in real time severely limits their options for fuckery, fortunately.
Bingo. Even if they're able to segregate the ballots (which is a big assumption), Trump still gets fucked because of the USPS illegally back dating the ballots to November 3rd.
If PA isn't braindead retarded, they kept all the fake November 3rd post office markings. How do they separate the FAKE November 3 mail stamps vs. the REAL November 3rd mail stamps?
This order from Alito is extremely positive, but I don't think it alone solves the origami like layers of crimes going on.
It doesn't by itself, but we can file each instance of voter fraud as a separate crime, and charge the whole lot of them in a RICO case. It would be the largest in history, but it can and should be done. That's not what the Supreme Court is going to hear on, though. We're going to be dealing with several levels of the Judicial, probably for years, to sort all this out. SCOTUS will rule there's enough evidence that a certain amount of the count needs to be thrown out, and it will probably be enough to rule in our favor.
I'm afraid to ask because I don't want a question to turn into instant downvotes, but is there legal precedent for any of this, or is this entire mess of an "election" uncharted territory for SC to inevitably rule on? other than Bush V Gore I'm not familiar with anything like this ever being ruled on before.
Edit: Thanks for responses and info. this will truly be historic.
One of the things about Bush v Gore is that Bush specifically made an argument on the part of Article II Sect. 1, Clause 2 about state legislatures determining presidential election that was agreed with.
But as we indicated in our remand of the earlier case, in a Presidential election the clearly expressed intent of the legislature must prevail. And there is no basis for reading the Florida statutes as requiring the counting of improperly marked ballots, as an examination of the Florida Supreme Court’s textual analysis shows.
The scope and nature of the remedy ordered by the Florida Supreme Court jeopardizes the “legislative wish” to take advantage of the safe harbor provided by 3 U.S.C. § 5. Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Bd., ante, at 6. December 12, 2000, is the last date for a final determination of the Florida electors that will satisfy §5.
Surely when the Florida Legislature empowered the courts of the State to grant “appropriate” relief, it must have meant relief that would have become final by the cut-off date of 3 U.S.C. § 5.
Good question, and the answer AFAIK is no there isn't, outside of Bush V. Gore and whatever the constitution says. Which is another reason this is so important- the legal precedent will (hopefully) protect future elections.
So what happens to the house and senate seats in this scenario? There were plenty of things voted on state by state besides the presidency. I wonder what will happen to them if the election is declared fubard.
Good question. Maybe only the presidential election is called into question. I'm not aware that there are any mechanics installed to apply to House or Senate races. But there is this process for the POTUS determination. So my guess is they won't be affected, as the contested status only applies to the electoral college process.
The most likely scenario is that Pennsylvania would directly appoint electors. The better question is what happen to Senate and House races that are impacted by ballots being thrown out.
This. Admittedly I have no legal education, but I would think that if the court looked at enough information and saw the results were just obviously fucked (i.e. mixed up ballots, no proven chains of custody, etc.) they just say, "We're throwing all this trash out cause there's no way to know what's real and what isn't it."
They can’t backdate the total ballot counts though - if the SOS office was saying there were 3 million ballots cast at 8pm on election night but they try to claim there was 4 million via backdating then that obviously isn’t going to fly.
“Wow! How coincidental! All the ballots that arrived late were for trump! Good thing we totally segregated them ahead of time and we had the stack ready to go!”
Exactly. Proof it never had integrity isn't justification to accept polluted results. It's the exact opposite. That's why they did it, they want people to get upset that integrity will be maintained.
I hadn't thought of it that way. If we prove the Democrats cheated, it's unreasonable to assume they didn't need to to win the election. SCOTUS should rule that we automatically win, if they can find any legal reasoning along these lines.
Many of you have rightly noted that this segregating/securing was already supposed to be happening. PA GOP told SCOTUS today neither it nor the PA Sec of Commonwealth could get all the county boards of election to confirm they were actually complying. Now there's a SCOTUS Order.
This tells me that GOP is finally getting answers from PA and they found the ballot pool to be a clusterfuck as expected. This is good. Democrats are sloppy AF and skipping protocols left and right to fake enough ballots.
Anyway if they have the ballots separated then we can get a total on them and start to make the case that they've been counted in violation of federal law due to delivery time.
Also we know the USPS has been f'ing with dates, that's fine since we have whisteblowers and I HOPE some hard evidence. Once it's proven then the entire pool of ballots is trash
I wouldnt say sloppy but desperate and desperation makes you mess up big time. I'm sure if you go to places like california where the fix is always on it seems organized
I can't give you proof of my identity but I know that you're mostly wrong. I've said this for years: the military is a slice of America. Every faction, identity, and interest present in America is present in the military. You have at least half of the military voting for Trump, just like America. PA military mostly voting for Trump, just like the rest of PA.
I am a vet and live by a major us army base. Im regularly disgusted by the actions of the active duty members in uniform I come across. Most of them come from a chemical brigade if I've been correctly identifying their unit patch.
Not trying to be rude, but no, you aren't really. You might be very much in tune with the officer corps and other academy graduates, but going to a Service Academy really doesn't give you even the slightest hint about what some 31B, 11B, or 88M E-4 is thinking. It's well known that the the officers in the military skew heavily to the left compared to the enlisted. I've been on two combat deployments, one as an E-4 and one as an E-5, and at least 80% or so, probably higher were at least default Republicans.
They likely had already separated them by candidate and destroyed almost all Trump ballots because they know that zero Trump votes from military is just too far fetched to believe.
Lnah fuck a redo nigga if they ignored da order, just toss ALL mail in ballots counted in the state. trump wins in a stupid landslide of in person votes.
YO. These people screaming "REDO!" are probably leftists who know they've lost as soon as it gets into court. We've won. Celebrate in the streets. Rallies tomorrow.
Stay unified. Stay hyped. President Trump needs your energy right now most of all.
Ugh, not great. I'm only 20 and with a damn near perfect bill of health to boot, so I'll be okay. Had it for two days so far, with periodic bouts of fatigue, migraines, and severe chills. Kinda feels like getting hit with a freight train full of ice. Not to mention, staying hydrated is proving to be extremely difficult since I'm just dumping all the water I put in. At least my nose isn't runny (though it is inflamed).
What I'm worried about though is that I am a beer delivery guy, and I potentially could have infected half the store employees in Akron.
I had a hard time staying hydrated as well. I had a fever for a day then the next day I lost smell and taste for about 5 days. It’s been coming back gradually ever since, going on 10 days now, have you lost your sleep/taste at all?
Very admirable to worry about the other employees btw
Taste is muted but I can't tell if it's because my nose is blocked or something else. Been waking up with fevers all night, and was having trouble breaking them. So a little of both I guess.
I don't think there's time to re-do it before December 14. Even if you could do in-person and local mail-in voting, absentee voters overseas would most certainly be disenfranchised.
I've never felt someone overseas should be able to vote anyway. If you aren't living here at the moment you get no say in election. Or at the very least, they should have to fly in to vote
No fuck you, if you choose to be overseas during an election that is your choice and you can choose to come back for the election. Your mUH FeeLins and Muh RiGhts come at the expense of creating a huge security exploit.
It's now under a federal judge's order. Send in US Marshals to enforce it and maintain security! When are we going to see some fucking teeth come out! No more softball and allowing these jurisdictions to taint "the evidence."
It's a bit step. That's not to say the votes will or will not be invalidated. But forcing this level of accountability has got to have them shitting bricks in PA.
Pray it doesn't get to that point, but what you should really fear is that if the courts don't step in, nobody will do anything. A violent solution is still preferable to no solution.
Presumably their goal was to create such a mess of things that it’ll be impossible to see which to count and not. Thus forcing scotus to either toss them all or accept.
Not election week, not election month. ELECTION DAY. Now you know why the story Veritas exposed was so significant, votes are being fraudulently stamped with fake dates.
Pedes...I've said before and I will say again the American Media and Democrat party messed with the wrong Republican President. President Trump is getting ready to end them in front of the world. I predict that half of Biden's will be thrown out. We're watching President Trump dismantle the Democrat party and the American media . This is amazing and hilarious to watch at the sametime. Years ago I would have said let's teach them a lesson but now I want President Trump to show them NO MERCY!!! They may not realize this yet but President Trump's second term has already started. he decided to start a little early this time . A lot of corrupt Dems and media to take care of ..
Yep - even though they were ordered not to mix them, they did.
Now, we have constitutionalists on our side, not right wing activists. I am sure they will need to decide this based on rule and precedent. Though what that means is beyond me.
If it's anything like what the lower courts decided for New Jersey, it's an election redo.
Many of you have rightly noted that this segregating/securing was already supposed to be happening. PA GOP told SCOTUS today neither it nor the PA Sec of Commonwealth could get all the county boards of election to confirm they were actually complying. Now there's a SCOTUS Order.
That's right!!! That was the date set by the PA State Legislature for all Mail in Ballots to be in by. The elected Democratic Soros Court upped it to 3 days later with no signature, or a miss matched one. But, legally, they have no ground. The Pa Legislature is the law making body. The Supremes should decide that the legislature makes the laws. Trump wins PA. But, John Roberts is compromised?? Any Ideas??
Yep, if it comes down to a full SCOTUS decision it has to be ACB, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch. Roberts is a cuck and Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer are all leftists.
They still have enough hours in a full workday to mix in more. The Trump campaign needs to use the informed delivery scanners and compare the voter rolls like 4chan did to fix this cleanly.
They'll at least have to toss all those received after the clock rolled over to midnight, if that were the case since Biden got most of those votes that would make Trump the winner of PA.
That's honestly what they should with all the states currently being contested at this point, it would probably cost Trump Arizona but he would legally win the election since almost all the fake votes Biden was getting mostly came well after that.
I was just gonna say . Wheres all the shills with the handshake icon ? Wheres Hunter for that matter ?
These brigading lefty faggots dont understand how fucked they're going to be .
They showed up to make fun of us and then they realsied we're dismantling all the fraud their leader won't tell them about with the world's greatest lawyers and America's army behind us
They know theyre fucked after they come here and see what we're doing to their satanic coalition of retards
Not likely - there's too many elections to 'redo'. Tossing out any votes after the 'count stopped' which was utter bullshit would have been a thing but with ballot mixing, that's unlikely.
Either the state House(s) (or is it one member of the federal House - I'm getting conflicting data on that, and i'm not going to deep-dive that at the moment), or the state is excluded from the process (which would be a nice punishment too - imagine the midterms).
I don't think it can be exact same. Rules up tom states and state didn't follow its own rule of act 77 signed by current leadership last year. All ballots after 8pm on election day don't count. It's pa law.
I just sneezed a snotty sneeze into an entire tray of lasagna. How do I un-sneeze it? What's that? "You can't"? Damn, okay, I have to toss this entire tray of lasagna and make a new one.
This is a potential checkmate. Let’s give 3 scenarios:
They’ve already been segregating the ballots (doubtful). In that case, we’d know how many there are and which ones they are, and when it’s determined that the ruling of the state legislature must stand, which constitutionally it must, those ballots will be tossed. Trump wins.
They have not been segregating the ballots, and admit it. In that case, they did not comply with the directive of the SCOTUS or state SCOTUS, and the vote count is tainted. All votes are tossed, and Biden does not win PA.
Assuming they ignored the first order, they ignore this one also. All votes will likely be tossed. Biden does not win PA.
Yes, but no. A revote would take too much time and be too much a pain in the ass. SCOTUS will order Pa state legislature (republican controlled) to appoint electors.
Redpills only, it's not even Constitutionally possible to have a "special election" redo for Potus/vp.
Redpill] DJT/Pence already won the majority of Electors (270+) on Election Day.
The media doesn't decide who wins.
The popular vote doesn't decide who wins.
The balltots being counted still and stuffed doesn't decide who wins.
Your POTUS/VP vote doesn't decide who wins unless you're an Elector. (aka the Electoral College in Article 2 of the US Constitution).
The States' Legislatures decide their Electors (as per Article 2 of the US Constitution).
Congress (as per the US Constitution) sets the Time(frame) for States' Legislatures to do this, which congress set in 3 USC 1 as "Election Day" (aka this 3rd of Nov).
3 USC 2 which says States' Legislatures can chose their Electors later if they select by Election; is either totally unconstitutional as per above; or if a Roberts majority upholds it; then guess what? All States' Legislatures this year can send in late their choice of Electors, so look at the Map:
Either way, DJT/Pence won more than 270+ Electors; and well as Republicans won Senate contests, House contests, and hundreds of State Legislatures and other offices.
BTW Speaking of Special Elections and Governor/Registrar frauds; Article 1, Section 2, Clause 4 of the US Constitution basically says governors have to call for a special election when there is a vacancy in the House. But CA gov Gavin Newsom has openly violated this since Jan 11th for the heavily Republican 50th Congressional District; now why isn't Newsom in jail, or abdicated out of office for Oath Violations etc?
Just popped over to the ol’ /r/politics. They’re busy congratulating themselves and discussing Trump’s future prison term. They don’t have any idea this just happened. The salt will be glorious when they find out. KEK
These people are delusional. We've told them over and over again that you actually have to commit a crime to be arrested. If you can't even manage to justify the arrest part, how the heck do they get to "prison"?
I think what this ruling is is the beginning of the supreme court working out exactly what to do. This was a precaution in case they wanted to just not count them.
Whatever the supreme court decides becomes precedent for all elections for all time in the US. So the fact that they are getting involved is a really huge deal.
Need that in Wisconsin and Michigan and in GA. These commies went all out in this election. Its so in your face. The idea that they will take power when they feel like it is a threat!! Wake up GOP or our done!! I will never vote again. You don't have a voice!!
I read that as a revote is coming at the end of all this. Obviously, the Democrats have mixed the legal and illegal votes already. Thus, the motherfucking revote of all revotes to save this country.
Bruh, if there was an in person revote - imagine Trump having rallies beforehand packing out like the whole Pittsburg Steelers stadium, and then providing buses for everyone to swarm the polls
The tds Dems are screaming scotus did this without evidence. I don't think a supreme court justice would make any move without evidence. Would set a bad precedent. Let alone alito.
Right?! The Twitter comments on Shannon's feed are cancer. Whining it's unfair and why shouldn't all the votes count. Clearly people don't understand how elections are run. They'll flip if they find out the Pa rep can give the vote to Trump in December. Right now they're still super cocky tho.
Yes. While constitutional is be afraid this would increase calls to end electoral college. And could be used against us in the future. So fuckin do it. Democrats would not hesitate to do the same. Their interstate compact push for popular vote proves it. While those things worry me I'm tired of GOP BEING A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. Scorched earth.
The full order
Read this part of the Alito order..It sounds like “You ignored our previous order, you’re on notice.”
I feel this is significant.
IF THE TRACEABILITY IS LOST, THE BALLOTS MUST BE TOSSED
thats probably all mail ins. Those idiots probably trashed all the ballot envelopes
That’s a good thing! They will have to be scrapped.
yup... remember trumps lead after election night?? 700,000
...erection night!
I ate too many red white and blue chews.
That, son, is a freedom boner. It cries for America!
Makes your pecka hard as a rock
Gavin McInnes has entered the chat
I'm glad I bought a lifetime supply of Super Male Vitality X2 Large.
you're turning Japanese i really think so
The Great One layeth the smacketh down!
Cracking on him for being negative?
How the fuck did Biden catch up on the statewide vote gap while democrat down ticket candidates still lost?
People almost never go split ballot let alone president only. MOST people vote down ballot. A lot of these "extra' Biden votes are just for him, not his congress candidates or senators or judges etc.
Hearsay.
More importantly, if people do go split ballot, it's because they took the time to research candidates and decide which ones they liked. No one's going to vote in every Republican candidate EXCEPT Trump if they've done more than just cursory research, even if they LIKE the swamp.
I would. Even a swampy Rhino is superior to an unapologetic democrat.
Faster to just mark one checkbox than have to go down the list.
But if you're going to cheat big, why not cheat the biggest? I mean, fuck it. Take congress, too. It's not like what they did was covert.
Particularly if they're mail in you would think people want to spend more time researching who else is on the ballot.
That's not the case here because they were waiting to see how many were needed and just filled them in.
I'm not familiar with how long american ballots are but I've heard stories.
In canada we only elect MPs (house of reps equivalent) so everyone knows going in what party they'll vote for. My province is an exception where we elect our senators but only when there is a vacancy and it's not legally binding, just tradition. Honestly so many idiots out there I think party affiliation should be taken off the ballot.
Lmao welcome! Thank you for joining us!
The PA Supreme Court unconstitutionally changing this law may have been the best thing to happen to us. The law says that any violation of the law itself nullifies the law, and its the law that allows mail in ballots to begin with.
The actual law has provisions that says if the law is violated, the law is nullified.
But we can't distinguish the ballots that were received by election day!
I'm afraid
Yes I remember it fondly and every time I see a new number I roll my eyes bec it just isn’t possible!
Hope that this doesn’t apply to overseas ballots, which are mostly military. Our armed forces are quite literally based.
From now on the government needs to be told to have every ballot back to their proper election office at least one week before Election Day. After Election Day is unacceptable.
The voted against trump in az and cucked us.
Must be certified!
Source?
Laura I
Too late. The entire precinct must be thrown out. They are ALL spoiled.
EDIT to reply to your edit: Postal workers have been backdating the postmarks, and poll workers have been getting random bags of ballots and claiming they were already in by 8pm.
This is the correct answer.
Completely at the fault of the Democrats in charge of illegally accepting these
Yes.
But thank you JUSTICE Alito, nonetheless. This is a good start.
Toothpaste can't go back in the tube. Any precinct involved in fuckery gets tossed.
can't unring the bell.
can't uncook the egg.
can't unspoil the ballots.
Pushing rope, bullet back in the gun after firing, closing the barn door after the horse is out....yep, I like your thought.
Never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to fuck something up.
He can't even cheat and win. Dumbass.
Obama was prophetic, huh?
"This entire precinct must be purged"
Glad you could make it Biden
We can purge later. Right now there's an election to win.
But if there's an easier way to show the Democrats cheated significantly so we can declare a PA winner & move on to cleaning up other states...............
Found the secret Democrat 😜
correct
There should be no such thing as a mail in ballot.
You should have to show up with voter ID, photo ID (government issued), and last 4 digits of social security #.
Also, they need to ask a few simple questions like...
-Who is the governor of your state?
-Who is the Senate majority leader?
-Who is the house majority leader?
-What date was the Declaration of Independence ratified?
If you can't answer those correctly, your vote should be disqualified. You can't be trusted to vote responsibly. Low information votes are just as bad as fraudulent votes.
Bring back "treating", our old custom of landowner-voters making important decisions by which politician paid for the better booze.
... I kid, but I wish there were an opposition party worth trusting with a process like that.
And unlike the left we're smart enough to know the difference between a true absentee ballot and mass mail in.
Yes we are.
Exactly right. IF you vote absentee, you are still required to obtain a ballot from the county official somehow in person -either from a spouse or agent, etc.
And it comes with a plastic envelope that gets priority franking.
Ordinary votes being "mailed in" <cough cough> is the most asinine thing in human history.
A'men , except for military absentee.
I was in the military and voted absentee, and during that time I had the opportunity to serve as an exchange personnel with the Canadian Forces. And in Canada, along with the fact that they had to show ID at the polls, even absentee voters didn't mail in their ballots. They voted at a remote site, IN-PERSON, and then their votes were processed to the correct riding (district).
Mail in ballots should only be issued to those who can submit a Request to get one because they physically cannot be present during election day. My state sent out applications to every registered voter practically begging for you to take a mail in ballot Because MUY Covid.
They did not have to go that far. They could have just had people still request absentee ballots if they were concerned about Covid and follow the normal process for absentee ballots. Never should have been every single person gets mailed a ballot.
Complete recipe for fraud.
They shouldn't be, but we're not the ones who disenfranchised them. They were disenfranchised the moment their ballots were tainted by poll workers.
All the voters in America were disenfranchised if they allow fraud in our election
So what happens when they tell us all votes are mixed? His order straight up says it’s not legally binding order.
They toss the votes they can't track, or they redo the entire election for the state.
Where specifically does it say that is not a legally binding order? Why would a judge intervene in a matter, if it what he said wasn’t binding?
If you can no longer justify the ballot I don’t think it will be allowed. We shall see how responsibly they have been handled.
It's a hot, hot, hot mess.
Trump will be victorious and have a mandate to immediately make Voter ID required in all elections
I bet there were thousands that didn’t even have an envelope and were just filled out in the Philly convention center.
So, can someone please riddle me this?
How were the commies thinking they were going to get away with this?
I'm thinking they thought any downside would be like Kavanaugh. You know, hey its just politics, ha ha.
If there's no penalty, then why not go for it, even if its a completely transparent joke?
Betting the right would roll over? So if we don't, do they get off scot free?
I think the answer is they do this shit every damn election so they never thought twice about it.
Apparently they thought 30+ years of the 1982 Consent Pact that prevented GOP from challenging voter fraud has made the party soft and unwilling to do anything even after expiring.
How many people are even aware of this?
The GOP has been playing a 30 year long game! Agree to the consent decree, get Dems to let down their guard. Hit them with GEOTUS after it ends!
Why would they ever make a pact like that? Just stupid. Prevented from challenging voter fraud? That leaves them wide open to be victims of voter fraud.
So the post Kavanaugh process wink. shrug & smirk?
On this scale?
Well they didn't do it properly at the 2016 election.
We broke their toy.
The way they cheat is to figure out the in person results, then add in all the mail in's at the end... giving them the chance to find out how many they need to find to flip the vote.
Trump got so many votes, they had to cheat so badly, that it became blatantly obvious.
In the past, everyone suspected it, but could never really prove it.
This time is different, they've been busted by someone with the balls to set them up and stop them.
enjoy the show.
I'm not gonna lie , everyone but Alito and Clarence worries me a bit. Hopefully they realize the magnitude of what's being perpetrated and the fact that Scotus will be packed and a joke if they rule for Joepedo
Assuming the 3
ScoopsJustices are actual Constitutionatlists, they should side with the Republicans because how electors are decided is expressly on the state legislature per Article II Sect 1 Clause 2. Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas said that state courts cannot interpret much of "intended" meaning of state election legislation in Bush v Gore.Correction: They are siding with the LAW, not Republicans or Democrats, but the LAW
I’ve been trying to understand that this more. Does this mean that the state legislature would have to make a move and say that they’re disregarding the ballots and that the legislature will make the vote for president.
If so, that’s a big gamble that the state legislators will have to make. Since, if they make the call it could piss off a lot of their voters. Then again, nobody cares about who is on the state legislature, so it won’t matter.
I don’t think anyone wants blatant fraud in our elections. It undermines the entire foundation of our country.
The left will do anything to stop Orange Man. Even if that means blatantly rigging the election. They don't love America and the principles behind it. Undermining OUR country IS their goal.
When was the last time they were held accountable? When Hillary went to jail for the email server? They think they are above the law and I am worried that they are right.
Exactly
They think its Kavanaugh all over again
Ha ha my bad. Why you mad bro?
I think they just assumed Trump would concede
Thats not logical. Even a wimp like Bush fought against the FL gore fraud 20 years ago.
Now someone like Trump with something this obvious? In what universe?
Nah. It has to be more like a joke. Like who fucking cares if we get caught.
If they didn't try, if they had just folded, then how is the inevitable outcome any different?
This way, even with a loss they still have 40% thinking Trump cheated
So in that regard its a big win for them, salt the earth kind of tactics
Tammy Bruce brought up a great point--segregate the votes that only have the presidential choice marked.
They'll add marks to those later
THOUSANDS.
And shuffled all the ballots in like a deck of cards.
They could still separate watermarked ballots from copied ballots. You know, like wheat from chaff.
Edit: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mail-in-voting-election-integrity-safeguards_508.pdf
States print ballots
Do they have their own paper mills or did they bid it out to a private company?
Not saying I believe the watermark sting claim, but it could theoretically happen.
and water is wet.
And the guy in the Hawaain shirt in the Infowars B show confirming a conspiracy theory from treeoflberty.com that said he was leaked info from a super secret AP news distribution site saying the MSM was covering up a widely released news story that the feds watermarked ballets (printed by states) is just a feel good story.
Chain of custody is important!
Voting in person by our side was 👌👍🇺🇸
Thank God for this place.
This is why we voted in person!
All this.
I saw somewhere the the usps takes photos of each piece of mail that comes through after the anthrax scare of 2001. Could cross reference the return address to the voter count db?
I have a hunch this wasn’t done for the ballot drop boxes
This is correct. After my mailman decided to return to sender every single check I was mailed last year I signed up for the USPS informed delivery service. It's free and works off their existing system. They will email you every day an image of all mail that's supposed to go to your mailbox.
BTW that mailman is no longer in their employ. Ironically he was better at not mixing up addresses.
USPS horror story time. Back in my junior senior year of high school, every college in the area was basically sending out pamphlets and why you should apply to them. The college had basically rubber band it together a whole bunch of pamphlets that all went through the town I lived in.
Mine happen to be on the top. The dumbasses in the local post office were too stupid or lazy to remove the rubber band to separate the pile to be delivered to each person’s mailbox. I pulled mine off the top stuck it back in the mailbox with a note saying wrong address. Female care refused to pick it up, bring it back to the post office to be sorted and re-mailed out. I called the post office and the local postmaster said that that was impossible for them to do.
I just take stuff like that and put it in the outgoing mailbox at the local post office.
How would they know whose ballot is whose
The USPS does this as well. It would be date stamped. We have had so many issues with our Mail delivery we get an email with the upcoming mail delivery.
Well if whistleblower reports are true they're segregating the ballots and then manually backdating them. They're handling ballot mail differently it sounds like
Correct! The whole thing has to be scrapped if there is no way to segregate.
If they can't show beyond a shadow of a doubt which votes were counted at which times, they all need to be tossed. Do over
A certified clusterfudge, that no amount 'fixing' is going to correct.
I'm starting to think that they purposely did ALL of this fraud because they 'knew' damn well ahead of time there was NO PATH for an honest win.
So what do they do? Blow up the system, because screw every last American, including their own supporters.
And now we're left with nothing but a big cloud of subterfuge and divisive aggravation. But we see right through it.
We can not, and should not stand for it.
This is exactly what they fucking did. And their cheating scheme kickoff was a fucking virus that came from China. It didn't appear and "opportunity knocked." That was part of the deal. The Chinese needed rid of Trumps hard stance on trade and the Dems needed power. Probably all planned out on a PowerPoint and sold like a RonCo food dehydrator. But I got news for all you mother-fuckers. If you think there weren't any Repubs in on this fucking sham, your dead ass wrong. And its probably the ones barking the most, if the Dems have taught us anything.
It will be one more nail in the coffin of the democrat party.
The point of the chaos is to seize power.
It is a very valid possibility. We look at the number of ballots that were cast on election day and the very size believe Trump had in nearly all these contested states, in the hundreds of thousands of votes even greater than Obama‘s lead in many cases, then all the sudden hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots all for Joe Biden magically appear at all hours of the night and by the next day suddenly the lead has shrunk massively, couple that with the occasional we’re just gonna stop counting for a while because.
There are no do-overs in presidential elections. The constitution doesn't allow for it. The 12th amendment says that if there's no majority by the deadline, then the state house of representatives vote for the president, and that is majority Republican, meaning Trump wins.
No do-overs in the swing states only?
Okay, good. Let them contest. Then it goes to the house, and the Republicans win with more states under their control. Problem solved.
Each state gets one rep. We run more states
By "majority", I'm referring to the electoral college votes. You have to have a majority of electoral college votes to become president.
can or cannot?
fixed it, thanks!
There may be a time stamp.
"Drumpf supporters demand segregation"
i don't want my ballots counted in a racial jungle
SegreGATIon iS RaCisT!!!
They could still separate watermarked ballots from copied ballots. You know, like wheat from chaff.
Edit: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mail-in-voting-election-integrity-safeguards_508.pdf
philly will never accept , the will just backtrack the hour of receiving
If they try we'll catch that shit and judges DO NOT APPRECIATE their orders being flaunted. Too many eyes on it now.
how we will catch? they can just made up the hour and thats it , just like the guy on veritas said , just use a stampo for the other day
The process needs to be observed by outsiders as well as both parties.
The number of ballots wouldn't match they way the were counted the first time correct?
They have to now. The SCOTUS would be pissed if their orders were not followed.
I kinda hope Philly doesnt accept and SCOTUS just rules PA votes after Midnight are now void and Trump wins PA.
But then the votes wouldn't match the first count and it would be obvious.
That’s going to the key. They’re all mixed in now, and as such, ALOT of ballots are getting tossed.
And we only need about 25,000. Enough to win and then we ram a secure voting system they can't mass cheat down their throats.
Dunno about that, these shitshow states are run by Democrats and they will not allow anyone to change the system that has been rigged in their favor. And the Feds can't do anything about it bc it's specifically in the Constitution that the states handle the elections how they want to handle them.
What about the ones that are BACKDATED postmark? How can they prove that?
Mail photo system, bitches.
THIS!!!!!!! I get emails of all my incoming mail!
Voided.
Yep. USPS "Informed Delivery". I have this too.
Did they do this for ballots though? Or did they process ballot delivery through a separate process?
I have Informed Delivery and I got photos of my ballot.
Good to know. Was this in az, mi, wi, ga, or pa?
No, and good question... it’d be good to hear from people in those states about this.
That would be even more suspicious.
If USPS employees start coming forward like the ones in Project Veritas, they're not going to be able to wriggle free.
New Veritas video seems timely in that regard.
It seems really orchestrated. Filming the guy delivering mail? Usually distribution centers people are entirely differently than mail deliverer
Not nearly as orchestrated as several Dem counties stopping their counts in key swing states then resuming with Trump losing massive leads in all of them. But yeah sure.
Mail cover
Trump's team and the GOP need to file for Mail cover for everything that came in over the last 30 days to have the data.
We can do some very useful things with this, even if there aren't definite identifying marks. When you are able to determine the amount of ballots which were returned actually through the mail and compare with the number of supposedly mailed in ballots, large discrepancies will surface - in particular areas of fraud. This is extremely powerful evidence, but we need all of these photos to be retained starting (literally) yesterday.
But we have no way of knowing if this was used for ballots or not.
We can't therefore they broke the order to segregate.
The entire count in the facilities that didn't segregate will be thrown out.
At most they will order the election invalid. Whole state revotes.
There’d be no revote, it’d go to the electoral delegates to vote based on party lines, which would advantage Trump.
No, it would devolve to the state legislature, which ultimately is the body that appoints electors. All the disputed states except Nevada are Republican dominated state legislatures
Seems like it. Now, the PA General Assembly is not going to ignore the popular vote of the PA. PA since the very first election in 1788 has held a popular vote to choose electors. It’s part of their tradition. However, if the courts determine that the entire election (in PA) can’t be trusted, then there are provisions for a re-vote on state/federal level down ballot items, but the presidency is different than all those other elections. The presidential popular election exists at the pleasure of the state legislature. If the popular vote does not exist, there is no structure for revoting: the day is set by federal statute as the first Tuesday in November. Without a popular vote, it goes directly to the state legislature to vote on. AFAIK there is NO legal basis for what to do next besides some foundational constitutional texts, and all they say is “the state legislatures choose the electors.” So, a simple majority in both houses would seem to do the trick.
they already said they wouldn't intervene. deep state gonna deep state
The PA state legislature could even just not appoint electors at all if they don't have confidence in the legitimacy of this election.
Nobody gets to 270, then it goes to the house of representatives where each state would get 1 vote.
I don’t think they can decide to not choose electors. They could fail to appoint electors in time, but even that’s probably illegal.
But couldn't the state leg decide they want to hold a revote as their method of deciding new electors? I don't see a legal/constitutional reason they can't.
^ This is the likely scenario
Electors don't vote on party lines, the state legislature for each state tells the electors how to vote.
If they attempt to vote any other way, the state lege can step in and tell the Electoral College to dismiss that vote and elector
That’s fascinating. The Constitution does not foresee political parties and needed the 12th amendment to account for them.
7 electors defected back in 2016.
I think the founders DID forsee them but explicitly warned against them.
Hopefully in person this time. If you are too scared of the flu to go vote, you don’t get your voice heard. Plain and simple. Tens of millions of people voted and hundreds of thousands protested, i mean rioted, over the summer.
They aren't even scared of the virus they're just doing it because they hate our POTUS, I'm already seeing people saying the virus isn't that serious on sports forums, when before the election they were shitting their pants and blaming Trump for everything.
Last time I saw my liberal uncle in Dallas he was hyperventilating about hand sanitizers and masks. Today he said he quarantined with covid, it’s nothing he’s just bored.
Sounds like he's given himself the vapours.
To be fair it was mostly peaceful rioting, I mean protesting.
Nice username
You too fren.
If they are so scared, the local government can rent the hazmat suit. It doesn't cost that much. The hazmat suits can be used for something else later for the local government or sell them on eBay.
Both. We are fighting voter turnout and not just fraud. If only Philadelphia revotes, turnout would be abnormally high.
That’s not possible. The authority to appoint electors would return to the PA general assembly where it originated.
Doesn't PA use voting machines for in person voting? That would mean that would remain but the mail in ballots are thrown out.
I don't know what PA uses, but it doesn't matter. It's an all or nothing deal. Can't cancel valid votes that were tainted with invalid.
Others are right, legislators likely pick electors. Revote for all other positions later.
It isn't an all or nothing deal. If the in person voting isn't demonstrated to be tainted, then it can remain. What would get purged would be what is demonstrably poisoned. SCOTUS would more likely take the route that disenfranchises the least amount of voters.
Order new elections in PA, MI, WI, GA, sharpie gate AZ and dead man voting NV
Beautiful. Fuck em.
the logical thing to assume that if they ignored the court order, then the supremes could potentially just invalidate ALL mail in ballots in the state. i mean surely that’s the only possible option right? PA cant just say oops we forgot and then be allowed to just let the ballot count stand right? lmao
A states vote is cast by a states elector, selected by the state legislature. Maybe it would just go to them.
That’s probably what will end up happening
And then we will win, and mine salt for all eternity
That salt could cure cancer and bring back the babies the left killed with MuH ChOice
I have hypertension already just thinking about it.
We're going to need a bigger boat.
If by salt you mean complete and utter chaos? Yes.
And brother, if this gets thrown to the state legislatures, that's going to be a whole new world of fight
It would just be the contested states. PA’s legislature is Republican dominated in both houses, so there would be no fight.
Never underestimate the power of Republicans to be bribed and blackmailed, stab Trump in the back, and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Too many people don't see that.
The Republicans are not our friends. They are just the least heinous enemy.
Republicans as a whole are spineless and unwilling to fight. They're controlled opposition at best. Handing this over to them could very well not go the way that it should by all rights go.
Something the GOP is exceptionally good at.
Understood. I'm just finding the irony humorous.
It's either that or load more mags.
It will be an uphill battle for the dems though since most of these swing state legislatures have Republican majorities.
Oh my heart just bleeds for them...
Cry me a river. They'll be lucky if we're not screaming for tribunals if we get through this.
TREASON
All but Nevada I believe
This is one way to get a contingent election.
It reads like there was no court order, just guidance from the secretary that SCOTUS assumed would be followed when they made previous decision not to rule before election with the understanding any constitutional violations could be remedied later. So I don’t think they violated a court order, bu5 Judges don’t like to feel mislead so this could be significant.
Go with whatever the count was up until the first observer was denied entry
Yeah I would love that but I highly doubt they’ll do that.
If they cannot segregate the votes, the process is FUBAR and everything has to be tossed.
Completely agree. Except, I'm not so sure that all of them hate our country and culture. I think the CCP has so much dirt on people like Pelosi and Biden and the democrat leadership that they have been broken and forced into this. This seems completely manufactured by the CCP to me.
If that’s the goal then they fucked up, because all they have done is proven that our electoral system is in dire need of an overhaul - and it WILL be overhauled now - so that the Marxists will never be able to steal another election again.
Great post.
But, all in with no fear of pushback?
What happens to their plans if patriots defend?
Still ok because China waiting?
Great post pede.
That was in the original opinion from USSC but the PA SOS didn’t care
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-trump-will-triumph-pa-litigation this article explains the process in detail. they are going to the SCOTUS and can potentially void all mail in ballots
Excellent read!
This should be at the top. You should break it out to its own post.
That's a great article! If you haven't, you should check out the author's blog.
Based Alito
Pa state rep has called for her resignation yesterday.
Very openly biased against Trump as well - not exactly the sort of person you want as a neutral arbiter of a really important election.
Secretary of State
Sec State
Sec of state
Cool - she can go dig a hole with her shitty face and lay in it
He, you bigot
I dunno what will happen, the thing to focus on is if they can't segregate the votes, they can't comply with the judges order.
Voted in CA, it felt the same way. Very strange feeling in the polling place. When I went to submit my ballot, the worker made the biggest show if leaning over and seeing who I voted for.
I believe the legal phrase is "fruit of the poison tree."
Maybe by looking at the outstanding ballots at a given time and then the decrease in that number at a later time. Even if that is mixed with non outstanding you should get an idea ya?
Perhaps they can't. If that has happened, further steps will need to be taken.
It surely is!
No way to determine. It’s too late. This sets the table for the state legislature to choose the electorates in December though!
That's not true if in fact they came through usps.
What's not true?
Justice Alito clearly says not to add to the tabulation those votes received after 8pm- he doesn't qualify that mandate.
Oh ok.
Lmao.
Too late, not what the scotus ordered so those aren't fraudulent now just accept it disregard our hundreds of thousands of harvested ballots and 100% Biden spikes at 4am, scotus didn't ask about them you shouldn't either /s
It's a step in the right direction!
My spidey sense is tingling.
Desperately needed good news. SCOTUS has entered the chat
wow. charlie kirk just showed a graph that showed 90 year olds in PA had abnormally high voter registration numbers
Nursing homes. 90% went to democrats, I'm sure
They voted Biden as well, unfortunately.
I'm sure they'll be very surprised to find that out.
And that disgusting Tranny health inspector. But only after "it" took its mom from a PA home.They can both fry in hell.
Do you think it gets to vote twice?
No even the ones who were killed voted Dem
90? Pump those numbers up. 190%
Biden's got that dementia vote locked down!
The 90 year olds aren't voting, their "caretakers" are
yep. this has been going on for years.
I just posted about that:
https://thedonald.win/p/11PpPGa3Xi/people-born-in-1854-sending-ball/
People from 1854 sending ballots...
But who will ensure that this order is carried out accurately?
Woops, time to print new backdated ballots.
The stamp on the ballot is irrelevant. It only matters when it was delivered.
Don't forget the deadline for delivery in Pennsylvania was 8:00 p.m. Nearly half a million ballots were delivered to the convention center at 4:00 a.m. the next day
But were those "newly printed" ballots that also has "fake date" on it? How would anyone know which ballot was received at 4am?
They would have to have a system for marking when they were received. Either they forged that, never marked them received, or received them late. All three could be deduced scientifically.
In a Ferrari!
That's how you know it has to be legit!
For real. The MI votes came in a little red wagon
I cant wait til more legal information comes out. I need to hear what scotus thinks about all of this. I know they had them sort election day ballots from after 8pm ballots in pennsylvania, but I want more so badly. I want to know democracy is still alive.
Everything arrives quickly be Ferrari Express. If you don't get your ballots in 30 minutes or less, they're free.
I still haven’t seen this video.
There is no video of it yet. There is only witness videos describing it
Tell that to the idiots on twitter saying "this only affects a few thousand ballots."
Why. Let's ignore them instead
It'll be more fun to watch their heads explode when this blindsides them, but the more people onboard with ending the fraud, the better.
I just wanna know how they know which ones were delivered when and if that information can be suspect to fraud.
Basically. They're claiming that only a few thousand came in after the deadline now.
So while all other states had all those counted....they didn't? Makes sense...
Florida Man Counts Entire State In One Day!
USPS bee: okay boss i did the job boss strike through actual date and back date to day before election
The SC can throw out all ballots received after 8PM if it comes down to it
I think the bigger worry was how do we stop them from taking a ballot they received the day after the election and just saying it was received before 8pm Election Day?
Weren’t they updating their election website with the totals? There’s probably a backlog of the totals at that time. Just reverse back to that OR more likely you revote the state with NO MAIL IN VOTES ONLY ABSENTEE.
Honestly I wouldn't even do absentee because they would fuck that up too. The only voters that should be able to vote remotly are military stationed overseas and in that case they vote on base. Those ballots are saved to send back later to make sure they don't "disappear" and the totals are sent over instead.
Anyone else? Make a plan to get your ass into a line because you can be there.
In my state, early voting is considered absentee. It's like you show up, fill out your "absentee" ballot, and drop it in the machine all at once.
Early voting shouldn't be legal, either. If you can't bother to make it to the polls on election day, your vote must not be that important to you. We'll make it a Federal Holiday, just to make it easier.
Are ballets alone trackable to the voter?
If you used one of those machines, I would imagine it technically would be.
Notice the last few sentences in the order:
https://i.maga.host/mmdoj1f.png
which says that the applicant has now no way of knowing. Which to me indicates some major step will be needed to fix this shit.
Or alternatively, that they push Trump ballots into that pile instead and put in their own.
Can’t get away with that either because they were updating vote totals in real time. So if we know they were claiming Trump had 3 million votes at 8pm but try to disqualify that would leave him with less than that amount, we would know they stacked the “late” pile with too many Trump votes.
The fact that they were updating vote counts in real time severely limits their options for fuckery, fortunately.
Bingo. Even if they're able to segregate the ballots (which is a big assumption), Trump still gets fucked because of the USPS illegally back dating the ballots to November 3rd. If PA isn't braindead retarded, they kept all the fake November 3rd post office markings. How do they separate the FAKE November 3 mail stamps vs. the REAL November 3rd mail stamps?
This order from Alito is extremely positive, but I don't think it alone solves the origami like layers of crimes going on.
It doesn't by itself, but we can file each instance of voter fraud as a separate crime, and charge the whole lot of them in a RICO case. It would be the largest in history, but it can and should be done. That's not what the Supreme Court is going to hear on, though. We're going to be dealing with several levels of the Judicial, probably for years, to sort all this out. SCOTUS will rule there's enough evidence that a certain amount of the count needs to be thrown out, and it will probably be enough to rule in our favor.
Much of this is also up to the state legislatures.
Right now the United States is in a fight for its soul as a constitutional republic.
Especially since the PA legislature makes the rules and the rules didn't change. No votes after election day
And how exactly does anyone know which ones are those? They have been mixed in with the rest and pre-marked the 3rd.
Time for a new vote.
I'm afraid to ask because I don't want a question to turn into instant downvotes, but is there legal precedent for any of this, or is this entire mess of an "election" uncharted territory for SC to inevitably rule on? other than Bush V Gore I'm not familiar with anything like this ever being ruled on before.
Edit: Thanks for responses and info. this will truly be historic.
Most election related cases would have to do with civil rights, finances, and redistricting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_elections_case_law
There are some cases about elections, like California changing from a closed primary to blanket primary.
One of the things about Bush v Gore is that Bush specifically made an argument on the part of Article II Sect. 1, Clause 2 about state legislatures determining presidential election that was agreed with.
Here is the important part of (the concurring opinion)[https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZC.html] (towards the end of the brief):
Good question, and the answer AFAIK is no there isn't, outside of Bush V. Gore and whatever the constitution says. Which is another reason this is so important- the legal precedent will (hopefully) protect future elections.
This
If they were mixed, that election is now tainted
Poisoning the well.
Democrats: [poison the well]
Conservatives: “hey this well has been poisoned!”
Democrats: “This is republican voter suppression!”
"Why would Republicans do this?"
Why would Trump do this?
Excellent.
As a legal 'pede, this pleases me
Could mean that due to inability to determine the winner, PA electors might cast no vote in the electoral college.
Or the election as a whole could be considered contested and it would go to the state representatives in the House to elect the president, IIRC.
Anyway, we need such an order for Georgia as well, as it seems they might steal the Senate there, which would be a catastrophe.
So what happens to the house and senate seats in this scenario? There were plenty of things voted on state by state besides the presidency. I wonder what will happen to them if the election is declared fubard.
Good question. Maybe only the presidential election is called into question. I'm not aware that there are any mechanics installed to apply to House or Senate races. But there is this process for the POTUS determination. So my guess is they won't be affected, as the contested status only applies to the electoral college process.
It's only the presidential election that would be affected because it's a federal ruling.
No. This is a ruling on electoral fraud which is federal jurisdiction. If mail in ballots are thrown out, that is for all races.
Run-off special elections for seats, a few months from now.
Would probably have to go to the state supreme court to decide.
PA still casts same day votes via voting machine. They would be able to keep and recount those.
The most likely scenario is that Pennsylvania would directly appoint electors. The better question is what happen to Senate and House races that are impacted by ballots being thrown out.
This. Admittedly I have no legal education, but I would think that if the court looked at enough information and saw the results were just obviously fucked (i.e. mixed up ballots, no proven chains of custody, etc.) they just say, "We're throwing all this trash out cause there's no way to know what's real and what isn't it."
Pour a cup of sewage into a barrel of wine, and you now have a barrel of sewage.
Schopenhauer's Law of Entropy huh? Love it. I'm gonna be referencing that from now on.
Don't be so hard on Argentina reds.
The issue is they have been backdating their post marks too.
They can’t backdate the total ballot counts though - if the SOS office was saying there were 3 million ballots cast at 8pm on election night but they try to claim there was 4 million via backdating then that obviously isn’t going to fly.
Fine, once that's proven then the entire pool is poisoned. Audit, investigate, revote if needed
More reason to throw out all the mail-ins, especially those received after the deadline
The ones received after the deadline will be thrown out regardless, the question is if that batch poisons the rest.
Probably will be a little segregated
Exactly what they want to do to society. One goes to Gulags.
“Wow! How coincidental! All the ballots that arrived late were for trump! Good thing we totally segregated them ahead of time and we had the stack ready to go!”
This won’t be funny a month from now.....
Sounds like we need to do another vote. In-person only, for 24 hours, everyone line up.
Yeah then watch how many democrats fly there to vote from across the nation
Must prove residency.
bring your ID
No idea, I’m not a poll worker.
We dont.
So we get to throw them all out.
Yup. The inability to ensure compliance with the order cuts against them, not in their favor.
My thinking exactly pede. Indeed
Only risk is if they 4d chess move and add fraud ballots to piles of trump votes.
I dont think they have IQ above 80 tho so i think wed be safe
They don't know how to play 4D chess, if they did they wouldn't have gotten caught
For that scenario to work they would have had to do it in the last 2 days.
i mean if they show both sides "cheated" guess we have to have a redo that's fair?
Courts are generally not favorable to people who refuse to or claim they can not follow a court order, regardless of politics.
Exactly. Proof it never had integrity isn't justification to accept polluted results. It's the exact opposite. That's why they did it, they want people to get upset that integrity will be maintained.
I hadn't thought of it that way. If we prove the Democrats cheated, it's unreasonable to assume they didn't need to to win the election. SCOTUS should rule that we automatically win, if they can find any legal reasoning along these lines.
We'd have to go by the reported number from late that night.
Which had Trump 800K votes ahead HAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA
After the ballots are out of the envelope and tossed in a bin, you can't tell them apart.
This sounds right
Although , would drop boxes?
Although, I suppose there's a way to track down pickup info on those to.
Yes. This will play a large role in finding out when ballots were backdated and finding the criminals.
I believe all mail is photographed now. If it wasn't photographed, it must not have been sent through the mail.
Oh
SHIT.
It's motherfucking ON.
Another follow up tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShannonBream/status/1324887633957445633
so is this good or bad? will the SCOTUS actually say the whole thing is tainted?
It's good cause chances are lawless Democrat counties resisted the guidance
It’s certainly possible if the votes can’t be segregated.
It's a way of saying later, "Hey, we tried to work with demonic rats earlier, but they're rats who are birthed from and worship demons so y'know."
This tells me that GOP is finally getting answers from PA and they found the ballot pool to be a clusterfuck as expected. This is good. Democrats are sloppy AF and skipping protocols left and right to fake enough ballots.
Anyway if they have the ballots separated then we can get a total on them and start to make the case that they've been counted in violation of federal law due to delivery time.
Also we know the USPS has been f'ing with dates, that's fine since we have whisteblowers and I HOPE some hard evidence. Once it's proven then the entire pool of ballots is trash
I think, if the SCOUTS justices review the evidence, should Trump have any, they'll rule in his favor.
That is if the CIA doesn't get involved.
I wouldnt say sloppy but desperate and desperation makes you mess up big time. I'm sure if you go to places like california where the fix is always on it seems organized
Ok extra sloppy due to desperation.
BTW nobody ever audits CA, it’s probably a mess too
We don’t have to have a national wide redo. We just need a redo in 4 states. Voter ID and hand counting and live stream.
Might be better to do Nationwide. Might be surprised by blue states turning red.
I would LOVE to see the real count for every state!
Yes. These elections need to be proven to a court they were tainted.
Allegheny County military absentee ballots just went 4:1 for Biden.
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1324868110529277958
FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD
I think a lot of you underestimate how absolutely disgusting the current military apparatus is.
I can't give you proof of my identity but I know that you're mostly wrong. I've said this for years: the military is a slice of America. Every faction, identity, and interest present in America is present in the military. You have at least half of the military voting for Trump, just like America. PA military mostly voting for Trump, just like the rest of PA.
Im a fucking Service Academy graduate that joined when I was 17 years old. I am very much in tune with the state of the military.
The single largest problem facing the military is talent bleed, and for good reason.
Brain drain
I am a vet and live by a major us army base. Im regularly disgusted by the actions of the active duty members in uniform I come across. Most of them come from a chemical brigade if I've been correctly identifying their unit patch.
Not trying to be rude, but no, you aren't really. You might be very much in tune with the officer corps and other academy graduates, but going to a Service Academy really doesn't give you even the slightest hint about what some 31B, 11B, or 88M E-4 is thinking. It's well known that the the officers in the military skew heavily to the left compared to the enlisted. I've been on two combat deployments, one as an E-4 and one as an E-5, and at least 80% or so, probably higher were at least default Republicans.
Military ballots are also from administrative people who outnumber "soldiers"
I always thought the military skewed right, based on the “God, Guns, America” unofficial tag line of the Trump party alone
Enlisted skews right, officers skew left.
In officerdom sure but enlisted men!? Give me a break.
You are correct. Academy officers seem to have the highest concentration of cucks from my experience. Our officer corp is very bad in recent decades.
They likely had already separated them by candidate and destroyed almost all Trump ballots because they know that zero Trump votes from military is just too far fetched to believe.
Absolutely zero chance.
IF those are legally cast ballots, they must have destroyed many times that number of R's.
There have to be some of those soldiers on this site
If that’s legitimate I’m gay. Given that Pence hasn’t shown up to zap me, that’s bullshit.
Why show up to personally zap, just do an orbital zap from our Space Force
It’s already to late for them to segregate those ballots! It’s tainted throw out the whole thing and order them to re do it!
Lnah fuck a redo nigga if they ignored da order, just toss ALL mail in ballots counted in the state. trump wins in a stupid landslide of in person votes.
Just take the fucking numbers at 12am November 4 and run with that for electoral votes. Boom, done deal.
I like this guy
DAMN this homie is so chill!
word
YO. These people screaming "REDO!" are probably leftists who know they've lost as soon as it gets into court. We've won. Celebrate in the streets. Rallies tomorrow.
Stay unified. Stay hyped. President Trump needs your energy right now most of all.
I'm so sad I got the wuflu. I'll spread the word, though!
I got it too. Just got done quarantining. How are you doing?
Ugh, not great. I'm only 20 and with a damn near perfect bill of health to boot, so I'll be okay. Had it for two days so far, with periodic bouts of fatigue, migraines, and severe chills. Kinda feels like getting hit with a freight train full of ice. Not to mention, staying hydrated is proving to be extremely difficult since I'm just dumping all the water I put in. At least my nose isn't runny (though it is inflamed).
What I'm worried about though is that I am a beer delivery guy, and I potentially could have infected half the store employees in Akron.
I had a hard time staying hydrated as well. I had a fever for a day then the next day I lost smell and taste for about 5 days. It’s been coming back gradually ever since, going on 10 days now, have you lost your sleep/taste at all?
Very admirable to worry about the other employees btw
Taste is muted but I can't tell if it's because my nose is blocked or something else. Been waking up with fevers all night, and was having trouble breaking them. So a little of both I guess.
Least I had TD to keep me busy! :)
It’ll sound stupid but the best thing I did, was take walks outside. Idk if the weather where you are is cooperative but it really helped me.
Are you taking any kind of DayQuil or any fever reducer?
Keeping my brain busy and not focused on it helped me.
Take extra salt and carbs. It might help with the water retention, but be prepared for the bathroom if too much is taken.
Just throw out all the mail in ballots
Yes 100% HOWEVER, this signals some scotus intent and that they are willing to be involved. So it is good because of that.
I don't think there's time to re-do it before December 14. Even if you could do in-person and local mail-in voting, absentee voters overseas would most certainly be disenfranchised.
Why Dec 14? Why that date?
Electoral college vote
That's the date the electors of the electoral college cast their votes for POTUS.
I've never felt someone overseas should be able to vote anyway. If you aren't living here at the moment you get no say in election. Or at the very least, they should have to fly in to vote
You know service members do return home, right?
Military should be able to vote while overseas of course, I just meant civilians.
No fuck you, if you choose to be overseas during an election that is your choice and you can choose to come back for the election. Your mUH FeeLins and Muh RiGhts come at the expense of creating a huge security exploit.
Good news for the Trump campaign.
It's now under a federal judge's order. Send in US Marshals to enforce it and maintain security! When are we going to see some fucking teeth come out! No more softball and allowing these jurisdictions to taint "the evidence."
Exactly. The longer we wait to act, the more they cover their tracks.
The "evidence" is their votes. Let them taint away, it means their votes get thrown out.
This feels big. Is this big?
This is fucking huge!
YUUUUUGE. Possibly Rosie O'Donnell sized.
As big as this is........
Probably more like Amy Schumer.
Let's save Rosie for the motherload
lol, right you are sir!
I'D LIKE TO TAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF HER FATASS POCKET
That’s a fat roll
Amy Schumer!
It's a bit step. That's not to say the votes will or will not be invalidated. But forcing this level of accountability has got to have them shitting bricks in PA.
or they wont give a fuck which will piss of SCOTUS even more. :)
This is just one humble pede's opinion but I think we'll look back on this as the moment where we turned the tide.
Pray it doesn't get to that point, but what you should really fear is that if the courts don't step in, nobody will do anything. A violent solution is still preferable to no solution.
Presumably their goal was to create such a mess of things that it’ll be impossible to see which to count and not. Thus forcing scotus to either toss them all or accept.
ElectionDAY
Not election week, not election month. ELECTION DAY. Now you know why the story Veritas exposed was so significant, votes are being fraudulently stamped with fake dates.
B-but I want to celebrate my birthday ALL MONTH!
Women, amirite?
But, but, we already mixed them! You can’t just change the rules on us! /s
They are fucked. The previous court ordered them to segregate. They didn't. So fuck them.
They are all about to be tossed if they ignored a previous court order and mixed them together.
Oh well..guess all of the votes don't count then! Sorry corrupt Philly!
We didn't change the rules... You chose not to follow them, and so now they get thrown out of the game. That's the way competitions work.
(I know your reply was sarcastic... But this is the true comeback)
They were ordered to keep the separate back in October.
Pedes...I've said before and I will say again the American Media and Democrat party messed with the wrong Republican President. President Trump is getting ready to end them in front of the world. I predict that half of Biden's will be thrown out. We're watching President Trump dismantle the Democrat party and the American media . This is amazing and hilarious to watch at the sametime. Years ago I would have said let's teach them a lesson but now I want President Trump to show them NO MERCY!!! They may not realize this yet but President Trump's second term has already started. he decided to start a little early this time . A lot of corrupt Dems and media to take care of ..
Sweep the leg.
Finish him!
No Mercy.
Fatality.
I always thought that the smart thing for the deep state and all its corrupt pawns to do was to lay low for 8 years and then go all in
but if they do get away with it now, then I guess they're just too powerful
Complicated business !!
Let it rain pain from the heavens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfz2DL3RQd4&1=1
But they already mixed them. Every Biden gains after 11/3 is null and void.
If they mixed them with the 11/3 ballots then the whole PA election is null and void. Whoops!
Sucks if my ballot gets tossed, but at least my vote wasn't changed to Biden.
In person voting isn't done on a ballot. The election should still stand, just without mail ins.
Yep - even though they were ordered not to mix them, they did.
Now, we have constitutionalists on our side, not right wing activists. I am sure they will need to decide this based on rule and precedent. Though what that means is beyond me.
If it's anything like what the lower courts decided for New Jersey, it's an election redo.
If not, then I have literally no idea.
Link please?
Another follow up tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShannonBream/status/1324887633957445633
Thanks man.
This is the way.
They are already thoroughly shuffled in, most likely. They'll have to revert to Nov 3 8pm vote totals?
That's right!!! That was the date set by the PA State Legislature for all Mail in Ballots to be in by. The elected Democratic Soros Court upped it to 3 days later with no signature, or a miss matched one. But, legally, they have no ground. The Pa Legislature is the law making body. The Supremes should decide that the legislature makes the laws. Trump wins PA. But, John Roberts is compromised?? Any Ideas??
Yep, if it comes down to a full SCOTUS decision it has to be ACB, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch. Roberts is a cuck and Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer are all leftists.
Either that or a do over
No reason to. All the in person voting still stands. There is no reason to just throw that out when you can recount it.
They still have enough hours in a full workday to mix in more. The Trump campaign needs to use the informed delivery scanners and compare the voter rolls like 4chan did to fix this cleanly.
This
At this point, ill take it. A seaful of salt starts with a single grain....or...you know, the thing.
Jfc I forgot about badakathcare.
And how he wants us all to have equal access to it?
This is what I want more than anything else on the planet
men just wan one thing and its disgusting
https://prospect.org/downloads/7356/download/ap_18355767278828.jpg.jpe?cb=0bbb1c8e0153fe817cd2a8a67acc21e8&w=3245
I don't trust the Senate to even recommend someone as based as Thomas.
Beautiful Ped!
We already have evidence the ballots were mixed.
If PA comes back and says they were not. They are now criminals.
If they come back and say they were. The election in PA is null and void.
Is this pretty close?
if they were mixed, da supremes will prolly just toss ALL mail in ballots and only count in person votes.
They'll at least have to toss all those received after the clock rolled over to midnight, if that were the case since Biden got most of those votes that would make Trump the winner of PA.
That's honestly what they should with all the states currently being contested at this point, it would probably cost Trump Arizona but he would legally win the election since almost all the fake votes Biden was getting mostly came well after that.
I was just gonna say . Wheres all the shills with the handshake icon ? Wheres Hunter for that matter ? These brigading lefty faggots dont understand how fucked they're going to be .
They showed up to make fun of us and then they realsied we're dismantling all the fraud their leader won't tell them about with the world's greatest lawyers and America's army behind us
They know theyre fucked after they come here and see what we're doing to their satanic coalition of retards
YUGE.
Prediction - we'll win by default because they can't mount a defense without admitting they engaged in fraud.
They'll ignore the request and lose.
I like this
Discovery will be a real bitch for the Democrats.
or SCOTUS will order a revote
state legislation elector vote.
Has that ever happened before?
last year in a state election..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_North_Carolina%27s_9th_congressional_district_special_election
Not likely - there's too many elections to 'redo'. Tossing out any votes after the 'count stopped' which was utter bullshit would have been a thing but with ballot mixing, that's unlikely.
Either the state House(s) (or is it one member of the federal House - I'm getting conflicting data on that, and i'm not going to deep-dive that at the moment), or the state is excluded from the process (which would be a nice punishment too - imagine the midterms).
Let's get the same order in GA, NV, NC, AZ, WI, MI
I don't think it can be exact same. Rules up tom states and state didn't follow its own rule of act 77 signed by current leadership last year. All ballots after 8pm on election day don't count. It's pa law.
Fuck yes.
Once it applies there, as long as the other states have similar stature I imagine it’s a easy win argument wise.
They also need to look into VA, MN, NH at some point too!!!
Make them tremble. The sick freaks won’t get away with this. TRUMP 2020
I just sneezed a snotty sneeze into an entire tray of lasagna. How do I un-sneeze it? What's that? "You can't"? Damn, okay, I have to toss this entire tray of lasagna and make a new one.
Thanks for the laugh. Needed it.
Top kek!
This is a potential checkmate. Let’s give 3 scenarios:
only for PA though. Dems were smart, trying to steal every state. Go big or go home
This is so brilliant. We are truly in the best timeline after all
could SCOTUS order a revote?
Yes, but no. A revote would take too much time and be too much a pain in the ass. SCOTUS will order Pa state legislature (republican controlled) to appoint electors.
Redpills only, it's not even Constitutionally possible to have a "special election" redo for Potus/vp.
Redpill] DJT/Pence already won the majority of Electors (270+) on Election Day.
The media doesn't decide who wins.
The popular vote doesn't decide who wins.
The balltots being counted still and stuffed doesn't decide who wins.
Your POTUS/VP vote doesn't decide who wins unless you're an Elector. (aka the Electoral College in Article 2 of the US Constitution).
The States' Legislatures decide their Electors (as per Article 2 of the US Constitution).
Congress (as per the US Constitution) sets the Time(frame) for States' Legislatures to do this, which congress set in 3 USC 1 as "Election Day" (aka this 3rd of Nov).
3 USC 2 which says States' Legislatures can chose their Electors later if they select by Election; is either totally unconstitutional as per above; or if a Roberts majority upholds it; then guess what? All States' Legislatures this year can send in late their choice of Electors, so look at the Map:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_state_legislatures
Either way, DJT/Pence won more than 270+ Electors; and well as Republicans won Senate contests, House contests, and hundreds of State Legislatures and other offices.
BTW Speaking of Special Elections and Governor/Registrar frauds; Article 1, Section 2, Clause 4 of the US Constitution basically says governors have to call for a special election when there is a vacancy in the House. But CA gov Gavin Newsom has openly violated this since Jan 11th for the heavily Republican 50th Congressional District; now why isn't Newsom in jail, or abdicated out of office for Oath Violations etc?
I don’t need those mother fucking commies. Fuck them
Biden cancels his imaginary acceptance speech.
Gonna be a fun one guys. Enjoy.
He can still give it in his basement. And upload it for the rest of us to see using Hunter's laptop. Hey Sleepy Joe, the password is Hunter02
I lold.
Who and how will make sure they’re separated correctly? We all know damn well the Democrats mix everything up REAL good
Yes, which would mean the vote count in PA is invalidated.
DO THE SAME FOR WI, MI, GA, AZ, AND NV.
Why would we sell ourselves short. Do all of them. I am willing to bet Virgibia flips and CA and NY are within 3 %
Just popped over to the ol’ /r/politics. They’re busy congratulating themselves and discussing Trump’s future prison term. They don’t have any idea this just happened. The salt will be glorious when they find out. KEK
Ah yes throwing your political opponents in jail for made up crimes totally not fascist or authoritarian in any way.
These people are delusional. We've told them over and over again that you actually have to commit a crime to be arrested. If you can't even manage to justify the arrest part, how the heck do they get to "prison"?
Which is hopefully what Trump is doing. Giving them rope to hang themselves.
Fuck yeah! Alito in the clutch! If they mixed them in we invalidate it!
I mean we invalidate the whole thjng
Hang everyone guilty of fraud in front of the liberty bell.
Election interference and voter fraud should both be equivalent to treason.
I don't think we'll have enough room around it, we may have to create mock liberty bells in every major city for that.
I am so so so so so happy right now. Just getting started.
Yep! Me too! Gonna enjoy a big old glass of very patriotic wine tonight!
dont get your hopes up but pray for trump victory. our nation depends on it
Man. either the mods are on it tonight or the shills stopped coming by...I wonder why they would stop though.
They’ve resorted back to their concern troll accounts
Yup. Eyes peeled. They are among us. DC is probably here more nowadays than they are watching the Chinese news network lmao
Because they think they killed us.
There’s a reason they haven’t announced Biden as the winner yet. They cheated and they know they’ve been caught.
I was thinking this too. Not good optics to cancel. Very low energy.
Justice Alito is the only great thing to come out of the Bush administration.
Unlike Roberts
Here we go.
What about the ones that are BACKDATED postmark? How can they prove that?
How could one prove a ballot case after 8pm?
Ballots are scanned after receipt. Time stamped They don't tabulate by hand. Can you imagine?
I am just saying if they threw and fit and mixed them all together.
I think what this ruling is is the beginning of the supreme court working out exactly what to do. This was a precaution in case they wanted to just not count them.
Whatever the supreme court decides becomes precedent for all elections for all time in the US. So the fact that they are getting involved is a really huge deal.
and i was afraid they would ignore the whole election!
HO LY FUK
CHINA IS ASSHO
We not too Low
Why wait til Saturday? So by Saturday they can cover their tracks?
Correct. This is ironclad. Any actions in violation of this order will be insanely harshly viewed by SCOTUS.
No chance that happens 😹
I'd love to see what happens to Tom Wolfe or that faggot Philadelphia mayor if they defied a SCOTUS order
Holy shit...GEOTUS must’ve spooked them.
Yup. I was saying earlier CNN anchors were looking really demoralized earlier
Ingraham now saying (showing) Biden will speak soon in Delaware,
I was wondering what happened lol. Awesome news!!
Ingraham now saying Biden will speak any minute in Delaware.
Guessing it will be from the basement?
Chase Center Wilmington.
But guys, Mark Ruffalo and Amy Schumer warned me about muh naked ballot
Naked ballots get fucked.
Get fucked commies. One of the last bastions of integrity in this country is going to lay the hammer down and put an end to this nonsense.
Need that in Wisconsin and Michigan and in GA. These commies went all out in this election. Its so in your face. The idea that they will take power when they feel like it is a threat!! Wake up GOP or our done!! I will never vote again. You don't have a voice!!
I read that as a revote is coming at the end of all this. Obviously, the Democrats have mixed the legal and illegal votes already. Thus, the motherfucking revote of all revotes to save this country.
Bruh, if there was an in person revote - imagine Trump having rallies beforehand packing out like the whole Pittsburg Steelers stadium, and then providing buses for everyone to swarm the polls
Hell yeah! Our side isn’t worried about clean, fair elections. Let’s finish this the right way!
PA PEDES YOU MUST DO YOUR DUTY
The tds Dems are screaming scotus did this without evidence. I don't think a supreme court justice would make any move without evidence. Would set a bad precedent. Let alone alito.
Right?! The Twitter comments on Shannon's feed are cancer. Whining it's unfair and why shouldn't all the votes count. Clearly people don't understand how elections are run. They'll flip if they find out the Pa rep can give the vote to Trump in December. Right now they're still super cocky tho.
Yes. While constitutional is be afraid this would increase calls to end electoral college. And could be used against us in the future. So fuckin do it. Democrats would not hesitate to do the same. Their interstate compact push for popular vote proves it. While those things worry me I'm tired of GOP BEING A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. Scorched earth.
Their defense s by would be reeeeeeeee.
We are going to WIN
We already won on November 3rd. START ACTING LIKE IT
Winning feels good man.
Oopsie we mixed them all up
What was it?