Alright, I just picked a row and searched manually
The row: GOODRICH WILLIAM, 5, 1940, 48831, 9/30/2020, 05/02/1940 (DOB), 03/01/1999 (Date of death), 81
So, born May 2nd 1940. ZIP 48831 in Michigan.
https://sortedbybirthdate.com/small_pages/1940/19400502_1026.html
"WILLIAM M GOODRICH was born 02 May 1940, received Social Security number 024-30-7974 (indicating Massachusetts) and, Death Master File says, died 01 March 1999. Research in ZIP Code 01527. Source: Social Security Death Master File (public domain).
For more information, check Archives (fee-based)."
So the possibility that that row is not a dead man who voted? Assuming the Michigan site, and the SSDMF are reliable?
Keep in mind that whoever put the info together probably followed the same trail that I am, they have probably stitched together info from these two same sources.
Michigan site only verifies name, ZIP and Month/Year of birth, not the date.
Hypothesis to be generous to the Democrats:
-some other William Goodrich was born May 2nd 1940 in Massachusetts, and died March 1st 1999.
-the voter matching the name, month/day of birth, as some other dead person in the US, is just a coincidence
Would 6553 be a lot of such coincidences? (If they all check out)
I don't know - compare to the population of the county? (EDITED for my previous error, thinking the list was from the whole state).
His list has 1942-2010. Would be 75 now, but died at 64, ok.
Yes, there is a Michigan Voter registration with that name and MONTH/YEAR... but that’s all I can find.
I can find nothing that absolutely that says this Michigan voter Gail Brown that is the same Gail M Brown that was born on and died in AR on the list.
There are at least 8 Gail Browns that seem to be alive and in their 70s with Michigan addresses right now. That’s a 50%+ chance one of them was born in April and a 10% chance 1964. Not AT ALL impossible.
I WANT to believe, but I see nothing but name and birth month/year correlation so far.
This bums me out. We need higher standards and to do more leg work.
Grabbing a list of people who happen to have the same name and birth month as MI voters isn’t helping.
EDIT: FOUND HER. There is an alive Gail Brown that lives in Bessemer... and the voter is from Bessemer.
I hate to say it but there is definitely bullshit on this list. If I were to look for another one, they would have to be very old, or have a very unique name.
Where did you find that she is alive? The 'people search' type websites do not say whether someone is deceased or not. My deceased grandparents all show up on these websites w/ their associated addresses and the age they would be today.
Lot of DOBs in the database from the 1900s 1910s 1920s. Your theory won't work at all for those, like literally will not work.
Your theory is that there could be another voter with the same name AND same DOB who could be still alive AND vote in Michigan is already far fetched. But if you add a DOB like 1915 to it it becomes impossible.
Would be interesting to know how many people are in the database with DOB under 1920 which would make them over 100.
This 6553 voters would be 0.46461% of the county. From what I understand, and assuming all the info is correct and has been verified, that would mean roughly 1 in 216 voters had the same first and last name, zip code, as well as birth month and year as a deceased person. Or it could be due to human error that those ballots were marked as received. With the number being so high however (1 in 216), seems more likely that people were filling out ballots for the deceased and sending them in. I believe Michigan sent out ballots to every registered voter so it's very possible that family members of people at the same address fraudulently filled out the ballot. Or could be (less likely) dem officials with voter registries using this info to insert fake ballots into the totals.
Definitely think that it should be investigated, along with the voting machine error that was reported that gave 6k votes to biden, although they are claiming now that that was due to someone failing to update vote totals and not so much a glitch. I still think it all should be investigated, regardless of ill intent or not. There should be more transparency in the entire system, and it looks like trump is using that to his advantage to win the election and have groups of ballots thrown out. Guess we'll see how it all plays out.
No one can dispute the that people in Mi have the same names as dead people.
But I can’t find any proof that CATHERINE,KELLY,1915 who died and has a death record is the same as the MI voter. Yes, same birth month and year and name - but that doesn’t mean a ton.
For people that are 95+ it’s a tough sell. But I checked a name GAIL BROWN who is either 75 now or died at 64 in 2010... I can find NOTHING that ties Dead Gail to Voter Gail except name and birth month/year.
If MI tracked whole birth date, that would be something else.
EDIT: FOUND HER. There is an alive Gail Brown that lives in Bessemer... and the voter is from Bessemer.
I hate to say it but there is definitely bullshit on this list. If I were to look for another one, they would have to be very old, or have a very unique name.
Alright, I just picked a row and searched manually
The row: GOODRICH WILLIAM, 5, 1940, 48831, 9/30/2020, 05/02/1940 (DOB), 03/01/1999 (Date of death), 81 So, born May 2nd 1940. ZIP 48831 in Michigan.
https://sortedbybirthdate.com/small_pages/1940/19400502_1026.html "WILLIAM M GOODRICH was born 02 May 1940, received Social Security number 024-30-7974 (indicating Massachusetts) and, Death Master File says, died 01 March 1999. Research in ZIP Code 01527. Source: Social Security Death Master File (public domain). For more information, check Archives (fee-based)."
So the possibility that that row is not a dead man who voted? Assuming the Michigan site, and the SSDMF are reliable?
Keep in mind that whoever put the info together probably followed the same trail that I am, they have probably stitched together info from these two same sources.
Michigan site only verifies name, ZIP and Month/Year of birth, not the date.
Hypothesis to be generous to the Democrats: -some other William Goodrich was born May 2nd 1940 in Massachusetts, and died March 1st 1999. -the voter matching the name, month/day of birth, as some other dead person in the US, is just a coincidence
Would 6553 be a lot of such coincidences? (If they all check out) I don't know - compare to the population of the county? (EDITED for my previous error, thinking the list was from the whole state).
Update: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/VoterCount Wayne County, Michigan, has 1,410,436 registered voters.
This is all from one county of registered voters, why would you use the state population?
...because I have been awake for too long and missed that it's from one county. I will update my post. Thanks patriot!
It's not. List is actually all of Michgan.
This list is not from one county though...
Same name, same DoB? Yes statistically that is too rare to be happening at that rate.
Remember that the Michigan DB lets us verify Month and Year, but not Date.
So I know May 1950, I find someone with the same name who was born May 2nd 1950... but on the other side of the country.
I am a bit fatigued to do the math, I'm just asking the question to make sure people consider it.
I pulled a random name off the list.
GAIL BROWN
His list has 1942-2010. Would be 75 now, but died at 64, ok.
Yes, there is a Michigan Voter registration with that name and MONTH/YEAR... but that’s all I can find.
I can find nothing that absolutely that says this Michigan voter Gail Brown that is the same Gail M Brown that was born on and died in AR on the list.
There are at least 8 Gail Browns that seem to be alive and in their 70s with Michigan addresses right now. That’s a 50%+ chance one of them was born in April and a 10% chance 1964. Not AT ALL impossible.
I WANT to believe, but I see nothing but name and birth month/year correlation so far.
This bums me out. We need higher standards and to do more leg work.
Grabbing a list of people who happen to have the same name and birth month as MI voters isn’t helping.
EDIT: FOUND HER. There is an alive Gail Brown that lives in Bessemer... and the voter is from Bessemer. I hate to say it but there is definitely bullshit on this list. If I were to look for another one, they would have to be very old, or have a very unique name.
Where did you find that she is alive? The 'people search' type websites do not say whether someone is deceased or not. My deceased grandparents all show up on these websites w/ their associated addresses and the age they would be today.
Lot of DOBs in the database from the 1900s 1910s 1920s. Your theory won't work at all for those, like literally will not work.
Your theory is that there could be another voter with the same name AND same DOB who could be still alive AND vote in Michigan is already far fetched. But if you add a DOB like 1915 to it it becomes impossible.
Would be interesting to know how many people are in the database with DOB under 1920 which would make them over 100.
For PA, Go to the link and click "date of birth" to sort by ascending order:
https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-General-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/mcba-yywm
People born in 1854 sending ballots.....
This 6553 voters would be 0.46461% of the county. From what I understand, and assuming all the info is correct and has been verified, that would mean roughly 1 in 216 voters had the same first and last name, zip code, as well as birth month and year as a deceased person. Or it could be due to human error that those ballots were marked as received. With the number being so high however (1 in 216), seems more likely that people were filling out ballots for the deceased and sending them in. I believe Michigan sent out ballots to every registered voter so it's very possible that family members of people at the same address fraudulently filled out the ballot. Or could be (less likely) dem officials with voter registries using this info to insert fake ballots into the totals.
Definitely think that it should be investigated, along with the voting machine error that was reported that gave 6k votes to biden, although they are claiming now that that was due to someone failing to update vote totals and not so much a glitch. I still think it all should be investigated, regardless of ill intent or not. There should be more transparency in the entire system, and it looks like trump is using that to his advantage to win the election and have groups of ballots thrown out. Guess we'll see how it all plays out.
I even found the Obituary which says age was 89 in 2004 and matches her YOB:
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/catherine-kelly-obituary?pid=182910219
EVIDENCE of dead people sending ballots in Michigan:
Somebody used some coding to test and find the ones which requested/received ballots:
https://pastebin.com/XEi5Uy6t
Try it yourself.
For example I checked on https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index/#yourclerk
Enter:
CATHERINE,KELLY,1915,48708
Month: April
and it worked:
Absentee ballot Election date 11/3/2020
Application received 10/6/2020
Ballot sent 10/6/2020
Ballot received 10/13/2020
Here's a few I verified:
CATHERINE KELLY, 4/1915, 48708 ### VOTED! ### Ballot Received: 10/13/2020 (2 votes)
WILLIAM BRADLEY, 3/1902, 48207 ### VOTED! ### Ballot Received: 10/2/2020 (70 votes)
TERRY MATHIS, 1/1900, 48207 ### VOTED! ### Ballot Received: 11/2/2020 (564 votes)
DONNA BRYDGES, 1/1901, 49431 ### VOTED! ### Ballot Received: 9/30/2020 (1112 votes)
BRANDI KETELAAR, 7/1907, 49329 ### VOTED! ### Ballot Received: 10/26/2020 (162 votes)
No one can dispute the that people in Mi have the same names as dead people.
But I can’t find any proof that CATHERINE,KELLY,1915 who died and has a death record is the same as the MI voter. Yes, same birth month and year and name - but that doesn’t mean a ton.
For people that are 95+ it’s a tough sell. But I checked a name GAIL BROWN who is either 75 now or died at 64 in 2010... I can find NOTHING that ties Dead Gail to Voter Gail except name and birth month/year.
If MI tracked whole birth date, that would be something else.
EDIT: FOUND HER. There is an alive Gail Brown that lives in Bessemer... and the voter is from Bessemer.
I hate to say it but there is definitely bullshit on this list. If I were to look for another one, they would have to be very old, or have a very unique name.