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Era_Extrana 1 point ago +2 / -1

I wish this were true. Unfortunately the director of CISA debunked this https://mobile.twitter.com/CISAKrebs/status/1324799793709928449

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're confusing two different things

@CISAgov doesn't print or audit ballots!

That is true, look at the infographic published by CISA. It says "Approved printing authority"

These agencies say things in legalistic ways. They are saying that CISA doesn't print ballots. That is true

YOUR election facility usually prints ballots on the spot. It's not clear the extent or complexity of their watermark, but it WILL have a MIC printed on it as a covert watermark in addition to a watermark. It's unclear if there are more specification for additional audit metadata to be printed on those ballots beyond what is seen and printed.

Now if there is mailed out ballots, THOSE printed ballots will be from an "approved printing authority" and will have watermarks

It's possible the new machines installed by DeJOY, Trumps new Postmaster General for the USPS have UV sensitive ink stamping capability but dammnit to hell if I were in charge I would absolutely include that as an anti-counterfeit, forensics; tracking device / strategy. The sorting machines already stamp, so why not add another module to them where they stamp in UV ink. Also; they can stamp whatever you want. A QR code; a QR code whose textual data is a cryptosignature matching their patented 'secure voting system'; or just a crypto hash; or if you had stingrays in the facility, including the timestamp, facility, and all the UUIDS, IMEI and SIM ; SSIDS of the devices around along with their relative signal strength written right there in the QR code and the timestamp of the wireshark wifi read.


I just sent a FOIA to CISA regarding the extent of their watermarking guidelines, whether they suggest or require UV sensitive ink (covert watermark / invisible) as well as OVERT (watermark you see); whether they make use of MIC machine Identification codes, nearly invisigble dots printed on the ballot; and whether they embed codes or have assisted the USPS in any capacity regarding ballot watermarking

We'll find out soon when they reply. May take up to 20 days

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warkyd -1 points ago +1 / -2

None of the states availed themselves of the watermarking system, so none of the ballots have a watermark.

This isn't legitimate. Let's move on to productive stuff.

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is not true at all. My ballot had a watermark in NC. Also, here is proof

https://imgur.com/a/ChLeBip

I think it's funny that you wrap a low effort and completely unsourced response in a cloak of pseudoskepticism and offer absolutely no other direction to go

Example: Ok mr "productive stuff". Please tell the class where we should focus our efforts then. You're the leader

GO. Lead.

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riffology 1 point ago +1 / -0

So, I was under the impression that ballots were printed local. How can they all have the same watermark of the ballots are printed on different paper depending on the location?

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ghost_of_aswartz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why would they need to have the same watermark? They just need a watermark that the ballot authority uses. Maybe I don't understand

The infographic says "approved printing authority" meaning that CISA has some protocol or guidelines for what the watermark is and should accomplish. Obviously watermarks only exist to authenticate a product as real / as anti-counterfeit technology

Some printers are equipped with UV sensitive dye or toner that can print things that only can be seen under UV light;

But also keep in mind, not many know this but it's true; every printer has a unique identifier that it prints onto ever paper, including ballots, called machine ID code; and some printers even print metadata such as their IP address, the IP address of the host device and/or network on which the printer is attached, other devices that have connected to the printer; time/date stamps and the like