Islam is crumbling? Uh ok. It's the fastest growing religion in the world and by 2050 will be the largest.
Muslim population growth is projected to decline over the next 15 years and then slow to stagnation. Muslim religiosity is also on the decline. The backbone of your belief, the "perfect preservation" of the Koran, has been exposed as a lie by your own scholars.
And those are only the numbers we know about. Many Muslims leave Islam secretly, fearing for their family ties, social networks, and their very lives. Ex-Muslims aren't going to raise more Muslims.
Muslims used to be insulated against hearing any criticism of Islam or any alternatives to Islam. Muslims today live in the West and have access to the internet. Even Muslims who still live in Muslim countries like Pakistan and Iran are increasingly becoming aware of the many criticisms of Islam, as long as they have the internet (which is why those countries are desperate to limit internet access). Around the world, Muslims are now exposed to the reality of what Islam says, teaches, and does, a reality that is no longer filtered for them by their lying imams and "scholars."
The population stats are from 2011 and that doesnt include people converting. Also you got tons of muslim who, you know, get killed on mass in these bullshit wars we have and fake, american/israel made ISIS.
Yes they have more children, but the conversion rate is higher than other religions. I can make a bet that within 30 years it will even be dominate in America.
But I'm not trying to do some dick measuring contests with you. These are irrelevant topics. I want to know what YOU know that you say the religion is a lie. If I go to Africa or Mexico and listen to someone recite chapter 19 verse 1, it will be the same where ever I go. Why? Because when the book came down it was memorized. You can't alter words if everyone in your clan knows it by heart. This is why I can sniff a changed verse if I go overseas and someone recites it wrong. No matter what language you speak. You stays in its original form.
Please show me PROOF why you think it's not it's original and I'll look at it. You can't!
People leave islam just how people enter it. That's life! But more people are entering it than leaving. I mean have you taken a look at Catholicism or Christianity? People are leaving it in droves. But i won't use it to say there's faults in the religion in itself. I'm trying to have you show me what problems you have with islam. But not once have you stated anything!
Ok good job you tagged some outspoken exmuslims. Oh shit my religion is falling apart. You don't know shit. I'm actually a sufi muslim. Do you even know what that is? Nah you don't mr I know more than you. It's basically like a Buddhist muslim focusing on spirituality and elevating ones soul through medication.
3 comments so far and not ONCE did you bring anything you call to question about Islam you want to ask me. You are shill.
I'll help you: "the quran said kill anyone not muslim." Eh wrong. The quran states there is no compulsion in religion! The times where it stated to flush out the disbelievers and kill them was when they were at war with them. See there's verses in the quran that came down just for a specific scenario for a time and place.
The dumb fucks that go kill people are not real Muslims just like Timothy McVeigh or Hitler are not real Christians. In the quran it states if you kill one person it's as if you killed ALL of mankind.
We believe in Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary. We believe in the immaculate birth and believe he didn't die but was raised up to God. We believe he will come back and kill the antichrist. Get married have kids and live a normal life until he dies. We believe he's the Messiah. We will fight along side the Christians with Jesus to fight Gog and Magog.
I'll ask you one more time, what problems do you have with anything in my book so I can address it for you. State it now or stfu. Our prophet married someone 9? Wrong not true. Remember 9 is too young and people would have called it out even around that time. All hadith's, aka the words of the prophet, are not legit. There's a chain of authenticity. The 9 year old one is bullshit.
Clearly if someone did something foul his enemies at the time and he had lots of them would have spoken and wrote about it. But nothing was mentioned!
the conversion rate is higher than other religions
Link?
not ONCE did you bring anything you call to question about Islam you want to ask me.
I never said I had anything to ask you.
We believe in Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary.
The character "Jesus" in the Koran isn't the same person as Jesus in the Bible. He doesn't say the same things; he doesn't say much at all, only speaking about six times. He doesn't teach any great life lessons. He doesn't do much except conveniently refute Christian beliefs and mind-numbingly reaffirm Mohammed's ridiculous claims about himself. He also castigates anyone who doesn't believe Mohammed.
The character of Jesus in the Koran is not the son of god (Allah has no son; Koran 23:91), spoke as an infant in the cradle to declare himself a slave and prophet of Allah (19:30), said he is not to be worshipped (5:116), was neither crucified nor resurrected (4:157-8), and will "destroy the cross" (Christianity) and all religion leaving only the death cult of Islam. (Sahih Bukhari 2476). This character does not exist in the Judeo-Christian Bible.
The Koran is also confused about Mary. Allah Mohammed couldn't tell the difference between the Mary in the New Testament and Mary from the Old Testament who lived one thousand years earlier. When you're an illiterate 7th century caravan raider and you overhear Christians talking about Mary and Jews talking about Mary (Miriam), it might seem like they're talking about the same person. Either that, or your Allah didn't know the difference between Mary the mother of Jesus and the Mary of the OT, which is an astounding amount of ignorance for a "god."
The Koran specifically labels Christians as blasphemers (5:17 and 5:72) who invent a lie about Allah (10:68-69) and will go to Muslim hell, where "good" Muslims - presumably including their Jesus - will mock the Christians while they are being tortured in Muslim hell, and ask where "their Lord" is (22:19-22). That is not the person of Jesus in the Bible.
Like most other "prophets" in the Koran, your Jesus exists simply to inflate Mohammed's ego. He is nothing but an invented character of convenience.
You are correct. Aisha wasn't nine years old when Mohammed married her. She was six years old when he married her - according to her own words. She was nine years old when he consummated began raping her. Mohammed was more than 50 years old at the time.
These accounts of Mohammed raping a 9-year-old little girl and molesting little boys are no less reliable than those on which the five pillars of Islam are based. They have been an accepted part of Islamic tradition and did not become controversial until increasing Western awareness and scrutiny of Islam revealed its horrors.
Hadith is the Arabic word for report, account, or narrative.
In Islam, the hadith (plural: ahadith) are reports of the words and actions of Mohammed.
Ahadith are graded according to their authenticity.
The most authentic ahadith are graded sahih.
The authority of the ahadith is second only to that of the Koran. So let's look at what the most authentic ahadith, those reports graded "sahih," say about the age of Aisha, Mohammed's favorite child-bride, at the time of their marriage and consummation:
Hisham's father said: "Khadija died three years before Mohammed departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old."
Aisha said that Mohammed married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Urwa said: "Mohammed wrote the marriage contract with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
Aisha said: "The messenger of Allah married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old."
Aisha reported that Allah's apostle married her when she was six years old, and he (Mohammed) took her to his house when she was nine, and when he (Mohammed) died she was eighteen years old.
Aisha said: "The messenger of Allah married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the messenger of Allah and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine.
Aisha said: "Mohammed engaged me when I was a girl of six years. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew again and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, 'Best wishes and allah's blessing and a good luck.' Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."
"Aisha said that Mohammed married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he died she was eighteen years old."
Mohammed was more than 50 years old. Aisha was a 9-year-old little girl. That is sick, depraved, and wrong. That is pedophilia.
Contemporary clerics warn Muslims against succumbing to the disapproval of child "marriage" in the the West: "It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his exclusive right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing marriage.”
Muslim population growth is projected to decline over the next 15 years and then slow to stagnation. Muslim religiosity is also on the decline. The backbone of your belief, the "perfect preservation" of the Koran, has been exposed as a lie by your own scholars.
Muslims today are less traditional, less focused on fundamentals, less proud of what Islam teaches and does, and more inclined to claim Islam is things it is not. They are discovering that imams and sheiks lie, lie, and lie some more. Again: Islam cannot survive exposure.
Apostasy is so prevalent that Islamic authorities cannot ignore it. Muslim writers talk about people leaving Islam in flocks (although they falsely blame "extremism" as the cause). In Turkey, the number of people who identify as deists or atheists is growing. Pew research shows the number of Muslims leaving Islam in the U.S. prevents Islam from growing by conversions and The Economist published an article about how the number of ex-Muslims is on the rise here in the U.S.
And those are only the numbers we know about. Many Muslims leave Islam secretly, fearing for their family ties, social networks, and their very lives. Ex-Muslims aren't going to raise more Muslims.
Muslims used to be insulated against hearing any criticism of Islam or any alternatives to Islam. Muslims today live in the West and have access to the internet. Even Muslims who still live in Muslim countries like Pakistan and Iran are increasingly becoming aware of the many criticisms of Islam, as long as they have the internet (which is why those countries are desperate to limit internet access). Around the world, Muslims are now exposed to the reality of what Islam says, teaches, and does, a reality that is no longer filtered for them by their lying imams and "scholars."
When did you ever hear about public and vocal ex-Muslims, a dozen years back? It was rare. Now they're all over social media. Examples: the Apostate Prophet, Abdullah Sameer, Nabeel Qureshi, Christian Prince, One Godless Woman, Sarah Haider, Zara Kay, Yasmine Mohammed, and many more. #AwesomeWithoutAllah exploded on Twitter. There's even a Reddit sub for ex-Muslims. It tends to get brigaded frequently by Muslims but there are still many good stories there. It's worth reading.
The population stats are from 2011 and that doesnt include people converting. Also you got tons of muslim who, you know, get killed on mass in these bullshit wars we have and fake, american/israel made ISIS. Yes they have more children, but the conversion rate is higher than other religions. I can make a bet that within 30 years it will even be dominate in America.
But I'm not trying to do some dick measuring contests with you. These are irrelevant topics. I want to know what YOU know that you say the religion is a lie. If I go to Africa or Mexico and listen to someone recite chapter 19 verse 1, it will be the same where ever I go. Why? Because when the book came down it was memorized. You can't alter words if everyone in your clan knows it by heart. This is why I can sniff a changed verse if I go overseas and someone recites it wrong. No matter what language you speak. You stays in its original form. Please show me PROOF why you think it's not it's original and I'll look at it. You can't!
People leave islam just how people enter it. That's life! But more people are entering it than leaving. I mean have you taken a look at Catholicism or Christianity? People are leaving it in droves. But i won't use it to say there's faults in the religion in itself. I'm trying to have you show me what problems you have with islam. But not once have you stated anything!
Ok good job you tagged some outspoken exmuslims. Oh shit my religion is falling apart. You don't know shit. I'm actually a sufi muslim. Do you even know what that is? Nah you don't mr I know more than you. It's basically like a Buddhist muslim focusing on spirituality and elevating ones soul through medication.
3 comments so far and not ONCE did you bring anything you call to question about Islam you want to ask me. You are shill.
I'll help you: "the quran said kill anyone not muslim." Eh wrong. The quran states there is no compulsion in religion! The times where it stated to flush out the disbelievers and kill them was when they were at war with them. See there's verses in the quran that came down just for a specific scenario for a time and place. The dumb fucks that go kill people are not real Muslims just like Timothy McVeigh or Hitler are not real Christians. In the quran it states if you kill one person it's as if you killed ALL of mankind.
We believe in Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary. We believe in the immaculate birth and believe he didn't die but was raised up to God. We believe he will come back and kill the antichrist. Get married have kids and live a normal life until he dies. We believe he's the Messiah. We will fight along side the Christians with Jesus to fight Gog and Magog.
I'll ask you one more time, what problems do you have with anything in my book so I can address it for you. State it now or stfu. Our prophet married someone 9? Wrong not true. Remember 9 is too young and people would have called it out even around that time. All hadith's, aka the words of the prophet, are not legit. There's a chain of authenticity. The 9 year old one is bullshit. Clearly if someone did something foul his enemies at the time and he had lots of them would have spoken and wrote about it. But nothing was mentioned!
Link?
I never said I had anything to ask you.
The character "Jesus" in the Koran isn't the same person as Jesus in the Bible. He doesn't say the same things; he doesn't say much at all, only speaking about six times. He doesn't teach any great life lessons. He doesn't do much except conveniently refute Christian beliefs and mind-numbingly reaffirm Mohammed's ridiculous claims about himself. He also castigates anyone who doesn't believe Mohammed.
The character of Jesus in the Koran is not the son of god (Allah has no son; Koran 23:91), spoke as an infant in the cradle to declare himself a slave and prophet of Allah (19:30), said he is not to be worshipped (5:116), was neither crucified nor resurrected (4:157-8), and will "destroy the cross" (Christianity) and all religion leaving only the death cult of Islam. (Sahih Bukhari 2476). This character does not exist in the Judeo-Christian Bible.
The Koran is also confused about Mary.
AllahMohammed couldn't tell the difference between the Mary in the New Testament and Mary from the Old Testament who lived one thousand years earlier. When you're an illiterate 7th century caravan raider and you overhear Christians talking about Mary and Jews talking about Mary (Miriam), it might seem like they're talking about the same person. Either that, or your Allah didn't know the difference between Mary the mother of Jesus and the Mary of the OT, which is an astounding amount of ignorance for a "god."The Koran specifically labels Christians as blasphemers (5:17 and 5:72) who invent a lie about Allah (10:68-69) and will go to Muslim hell, where "good" Muslims - presumably including their Jesus - will mock the Christians while they are being tortured in Muslim hell, and ask where "their Lord" is (22:19-22). That is not the person of Jesus in the Bible.
Like most other "prophets" in the Koran, your Jesus exists simply to inflate Mohammed's ego. He is nothing but an invented character of convenience.
You are correct. Aisha wasn't nine years old when Mohammed married her. She was six years old when he married her - according to her own words. She was nine years old when he
consummatedbegan raping her. Mohammed was more than 50 years old at the time.And Mohammed didn't only like little girls. And he enjoyed sucking on the tongues and lips of little boys. He liked to put his tongue in the mouths of little boys, too.
These accounts of Mohammed raping a 9-year-old little girl and molesting little boys are no less reliable than those on which the five pillars of Islam are based. They have been an accepted part of Islamic tradition and did not become controversial until increasing Western awareness and scrutiny of Islam revealed its horrors.
Hadith is the Arabic word for report, account, or narrative.
In Islam, the hadith (plural: ahadith) are reports of the words and actions of Mohammed.
Ahadith are graded according to their authenticity.
The most authentic ahadith are graded sahih.
The authority of the ahadith is second only to that of the Koran. So let's look at what the most authentic ahadith, those reports graded "sahih," say about the age of Aisha, Mohammed's favorite child-bride, at the time of their marriage and consummation:
Aisha said: "[Mohammed] married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls."
Aisha reported: "[Mohammed] married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old."
Hisham's father said: "Khadija died three years before Mohammed departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old."
Aisha said that Mohammed married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Aisha said that Mohammed married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.
Urwa said: "Mohammed wrote the marriage contract with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
Aisha said: "The messenger of Allah married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old."
Aisha reported that Allah's apostle married her when she was six years old, and he (Mohammed) took her to his house when she was nine, and when he (Mohammed) died she was eighteen years old.
Aisha said: "The messenger of Allah married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the messenger of Allah and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine.
Aisha said: "Allah's messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine."
Aisha said: "Mohammed engaged me when I was a girl of six years. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew again and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, 'Best wishes and allah's blessing and a good luck.' Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."
"Aisha said that Mohammed married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he died she was eighteen years old."
Mohammed was more than 50 years old. Aisha was a 9-year-old little girl. That is sick, depraved, and wrong. That is pedophilia.
Contemporary clerics warn Muslims against succumbing to the disapproval of child "marriage" in the the West: "It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his exclusive right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing marriage.”
No minimum age for marriage in Islam
Marrying a young girl before she reaches the age of adolescence is permitted in Sharia
8yo child "bride" dies of internal injuries on first night of forced "marriage" to groom five times her age
12-year-old dies while giving birth to stillborn
10-year-old girl is returned to her 80-year-old "husband" after hiding at her aunt's house