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posted ago by Matthew419 ago by Matthew419 +17 / -0

Lots of our friends are republican normies. Like Trump, voted trump but don't believe all the fraud is real. Belive MSM and Instagram as their official source of news. They Dont see conservative or alternative voices being censored.

What are the best ways to slowly or softly introduce a red pill to someone in times like this? Going to direct and immediately talking about dead people voting in Michigan just turns them off.

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jennyfrutex 3 points ago +3 / -0

Instead of going full Alex Jones (no offense to him, but he can be hard for normies to accept), you can point out that right now, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that seems fishy. Yes, it's circumstantial. But that doesn't mean it's not true.

Things that just objectively do not add up:

--130,000 ballots dumped at the same time, all for one candidate. Not realistic. You wouldn't even get 130,000 ballets for Trump in the reddest parts of Indiana (Pence's home state).

--Different states have different standards for keeping voter rolls updated, and it's a genuine concern. So far no one has shown evidence that Michigan/Pennsylvania rolls have been updated properly. That's why it looks like dead people are voting.

--It's objectively illogical for Republicans to lose no Congress seats, keep the Senate, and gain seats in the House, but lose the presidency.

--Ask them about it a different way: if 50,000 Republican ballots were dumped all at once in, say, Massachusetts, that would be weird, right? You'd want that investigated. If there were genuine concerns that Republicans had kicked Democrat pollwatchers out of precincts in downtown Baltimore or Seattle, you'd want that investigated, because you are threatening the voting rights of citizens.

Right now, we want a full investigation. Right now it's about transparency and information. I would hope that everyone can agree that more information is a good thing.

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weltbild 2 points ago +2 / -0

wedge issues

  • which candidate did you support in the primary? 95% they used the same shit method they use against Trump against your candidate the entire ballot stuffing locations are under central command

  • odd that trump gained nearly 8 million more voters since 2016 and still loses

  • strange that african americans seem to only really like joe biden in swing states

  • Joe Biden higher black voter enthusiasm than Barack Obama

  • No wonder Bernie couldn't win the primary if they cheat like this in the general

  • Trump rainbow coalition disenfranchised most GOP minority support ever

  • The most corrupt urban centers will pick the President from now on and forever

  • Trump got more votes than Obama 2008 and had the highest GOP minority support in history but sadly it wasnt enough to beat Joe Biden.

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Vermin 2 points ago +2 / -0

⬆️ This, more succinct than I could say it!

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atticdweller 2 points ago +2 / -0

Proof usually works - don't act crazed - bring it up casually. More persuasive pedes can probably give you better advice.

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Chaotikizm 2 points ago +2 / -0

If they want to censor talking points then fuck em.

Anyone who selectively edits their own "truth" isn't worth trying to convince of anything.

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WhoWasThatMaskedMan 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they're not aware enough of the fraud at this point then any amount of talk probably won't reach them. If Trump's team actually makes progress over the coming weeks and starts providing real evidence, then that's the time to start red-pilling again.

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TheKillingWords 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just keep letting them know what all is going on. Ask them what they think of media only covering certain "damning" topics re: Prez and how they won't even air his positive deals such as his peafe/normalization agreements in the middle east. Little by little is the key. I have a friend at work in a similar position. He hadn't heard of anything positive of Trump that I kept bringing up. He only watched MSM because he thought they were reliable the way I and many of us did. I asked him why is it he thinks the MSM never covers Trump's accomplishments and why only more right leaning/independent journalists do. The best thing to do is let them think about the evidence presented for themselves and let their conscience and rationale take over.

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