It means 80,000 absentee ballots possibly swing our way JUST in that single county. In my brain, this means these ballots mistakenly went to Biden. We will have to wait and see, but whenever there’s a mistake, it never seems to favor Trump. That’s tells me these ballots....are ours
I would like to believe it, but the NoVA fag counties here always overwhelmingly decide for the rest of the state. They are huge and FUCKING OVERFLOWING with people, virtually all of whom are immigrants, federal employees and/or beltway wannabes/sycophants. It's why you saw the MSM call VA so early.
It's a wonderful part of the state -- house prices are like 3-5+ times the cost of anywhere else in the state, groceries are more expensive, and traffic is perpetually fucked!
While I do not know the ballot ordering rules of Georgia, I do know as a programmer, a bug that swapped votes would be very obvious, especially if the name order of the ballots remains the same across all ballots. It CERTAINLY would show up in the software companies internal testing. There is zero way they let the software leave their doors without testing it. And they would have noticed vote flipping in their software. Even if these companies are run by pelosi and Feinstein, they would want to catch this bug if it was not intentional as it could hurt their candidate too.
Also this bug would not "just do enough to tip the election". Computers are very consistent with everything including their problems, we are not in space dealing with radiation flipping bits. It would also mean that in different states, that use the same software, you would almost certainly see the bug favor a different candidate. The chances that this bug just does enough to win the election, only for biden, in multiple states is basically zero.
A far more reasonable explanation to what we are seeing is either human error somewhere in the chain, an intentional software feature, or intentional human changes. Not a bug.
100% agree. Even in the worst case scenario, a bug like this, if it got into a major election before discovery, it'd not only invalidate the whole election (...hmmm!), but it'd have to be fixed as the absolute highest priority and certainly before the next election.
And yet, I read somewhere on here that this problem's been in play since 2016 and was documented sometime in 2018.
Oh, I'll add that even human error wouldn't skew towards one candidate exclusively. Thus, intentional "feature" or else an intentionally exploited vulnerability (fraud).
I can say as a dev who's done Govt. contracts for a long time, vendors absolutely let code out the door with shoddy testing like, a disturbing amount across the board, and have issues make it to production. I've never seen anything quite like it in the private sector.
That said, as we all know, this flipping stuff sure as shit wasn't a bug! Bugs break functionality, not create convenient side-effects to help very specific use cases.
Once I started my first programming job, I started writing JUnit tests for one of my department's big projects. I don't know anything is functional here.
It actually can be if they are using fuzzy algorithms such as neural networks.
If they are using trained neural networks for text recognition on the ballots, which is highly possible, their model (processing program) can be trained on incomplete training samples data and would fail in the real world application. When the real data comes in, accuracy of a model drops significantly almost instantly, and that require manual relabeling of erroneous data, feeding it back into training loop and updating all the voting machine software on-the-fly as models updates are published.
It's a non-reliable technology that extremely depends on peculiarities of training data. It may fail when you are using different pen color, print template differs even slightly from the training data or even lighting was a little bit different in scanning area and in training data.
YOU NEVER EVER SHOULD USE THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY WHEN ABSOLUTE ACCURACY IS REQUIRED. Who the hell cares if your model accuracy is 95%. It means 5% of ballots are lost, that would be unacceptable. You would not want to have a optional surgery that fails 5% of a time? That would be too much of a risk.
On a slightly more serious note though, elections are one the most important aspects of our entire system of government. If it's actually some kind of actual bug, I would almost be even more livid. I mean, is nobody even testing this stuff?
(Honestly, it's scary how much code out there isn't tested, so as pissed as I'd be, I'd not be surprised.)
It's our election, our government, our physical property, and our damned future on the line. It should be open source too.
These glitches all have a habit of exclusively giving votes to Joe Biden in swing states at hours of the day people were least likely to be paying attention, often at a rate of 100%.
They really have energized the right. They are pretending Biden has won, but they are auditing ballots, dealing with recounts, having the Supreme Court rule on things. They may want to hold back a bit, but I guess their strategy is to act like Trump steals the election in the end.
Makes me even more suspicious. Why not give it a week? Wait until next week? At least in 2000 it was only 1 state being disputed. We have “glitches” everywhere, uncounted ballots, whistleblowers, orders from the supreme court, litigation—true chaos and the media & Biden team can’t wait a bit longer? This is either just political maneuvering and they are hoping they still come out on top & if not, they can at least create a civil war from the unrest this will cause when Trump truly wins or they think they are untouchable & the swamp will not let Trump win despite his best efforts to uncover this fraud.
The media has no idea about the information warfare autistic pedes and the Trump. Campaign have going on behind the scenes. Perhaps they know a little on the lawsuits, but not nearly the extent
I will keep posting this on every thread i see - DO NOT LOSE FAITH IN THIS PRESIDENT. This man has survived everything. You really think this will stop him? All i ask is for you to disconnect from all TV news and relax, take a deep breath, and know that this man has never let us down before. This man is a master tactician.
The current margin is 9,160 votes. But GA has been finding more Biden votes all day, including the last drop of 1,982 votes with an absolutely insane Biden 91.0% / 9.0% Trump split.
Have you been to Georgia before? The only place liberals exist is in Atlanta... and the people of Atlanta are not/have not been afraid to go out in-person, they weren't sitting around filling out absentee ballots sheltering in-place because of fear from covid.
Has AZ finished counting yet? I heard there weren't that many votes left and Donald Trump needed a very high percentage of them. I could be wrong. Have the military ballots been counted yet?
"Gwinnett County uses Dominion Voting Systems, the same election software that glitched for Georgia’s Spalding and Morgan Counties on Tuesday morning, causing machines to crash on Election Day.
The Georgia counties use the same software as Michigan’s Antrim County, which also experienced a “glitch.”"
Dominion again! Systematic, widespread attempt at stealing the election.
My hunch is that when push comes to shove, they will try to play the game of not having a repository for the machine code, or worse, having a repository but actually running with unreleased / undocumented builds.
If I was running the operation, I would demand periodic pulls of the machine program before/after making any changes, and save them as backups to a protected, master archive. That way, even if they were doing unscrupulous shit with changes to the machine code, you could always revert back and reproduce the issues, as well as demonstrate how the changed code fixed the issue, all without needing to dig into the proprietary code itself.
As an IT engineer, i would immediately fire anyone involved in this piss poor design.
Really need to requir federal audit and design standards on how all this has to be done. Specific laws, no data outside US borders, encryption, pass certification tests, etc.
If you cheat enough, it goes beyond the point of being able to recount and never gets found. It's only caught if the republicans beat polls by 5%+ and make it razor thin. What are the odds of that though, right?
I have a feeling that a lot of them believed their own bullshit polls and thought Biden would win in a landslide. Once FL, OH, and IA were called, and MI, WI, and PA were looking really good for GEOTUS, they slammed on the brakes and realized that they had very little time left to "fix" this. So they got sloppy and did a rush job. That can be seen by the sheer number of votes for just Biden but nothing down-ballot. It can also be seen by them only ejecting poll watchers later on in the day when the really intense fraud started.
No nothing to see here. Everything is on the up and up. American elections couldn’t possibly have fraud. If it does we don’t really want you to know. You need to believe that it is completely fair. /s
I'm sensing some big dick energy shit posting in the next few days from the Trump team. I also have a feeling election fraud is just the start something tells me this is gonna evolve into a Rico case against the DNC and top operatives.
If we take this shit laying down then we deserve everything that's going to happen. It could not be more in our face about the fraud that's occuring and I really hope people are ready to walk the walk if it comes down to it.
I get that glitches happen, but it is NOT appropriate to just call something a glitch and not have a proper explanation for it for what was done wrong and why it happened.
Even with proprietary software, we should be demanding at LEAST a change log showing what issues had occurred and what was done to fix them. THAT is what you do when you are being transparent to your customers on your product, especially in cases where it is hard to discern trust in the results that you were given previously.
So many "glitches" with the voting machines. As a software engineer, I can only roll my eyes. There are only two possibilities:
Fraud
The election code is broken and unreliable. If it can get one vote wrong, it can get EVERY vote wrong. Every election which used this software must be manually recounted.
Election officials estimate that roughly 80,000 absentee ballots were impacted by this glitch, yet decided to push the impacted votes through, knowing some of the votes would likely change.
I used to live in Gwinett county. At least back in 2008 it was still a pretty conservative place. Part of the Atlanta Metro, a lot of suburbs but also a lot of small towns that grew really fast. Still had a Southern feel but there were awesome people from all over the world, legal immigrants making the best life for themselves that they could.
There were probably a lot of votes for President Trump there, and who knows how many of those great people were disenfranchised.
And The Media Has Gone All In For Joe. The Media Is Going To Become Defunct.
We are going to see more and more of these "Glitches". Trump will win by 80 Million.
I hope the President and the GOP get EVERYTHING needed first, and then strike for a 1 hit TKO lawsuit on the entire corrupt system. No fuck ups, everything must be perfect.
We’re winning in the end....Can you feel it :)
this fucking dragon energy , no brakes!!!
Choo choo!!!
BTW...Trump needs to do something to put HER in prison for the threats she made to us. I'm dead serious.
She just had to go and gloat prematurely like a Bond villain. The dumb fucking bitch.
No Mr MAGA, I expect you to kill me...
I'm kind of wanting it to take a bit longer now - just so we can see more masks fully slip off in their giddy anticipation of gaining power...
I don't want to live in a FEMA tent camp just yet let's fucking fight these criminals.
CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKERS
CHOOO CHHOOOO CHOOOO
This is it!
Lmao, it’s like the low tier fraudsters realized they were fucked in the long haul and are giving up the ghost to save their asses.
Absolutely amazing.
Does this mean 80,000 could be wrong or a small percentage of a tranche if 80,000 could be wrong?
It means 80,000 absentee ballots possibly swing our way JUST in that single county. In my brain, this means these ballots mistakenly went to Biden. We will have to wait and see, but whenever there’s a mistake, it never seems to favor Trump. That’s tells me these ballots....are ours
Right...
They always mistakenly go one way...what are the chances!
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
The glitches always help Democrats. Of course they went for Biden.
Trump won GA in 2016 by 200,000 votes. We all knew it be closer this year. Trump winning by 50-80,000 votes was my guest for the state pre election.
Catching the “glitch” is really “covering our ass.”
That's right, because paper ballots allow a manual recount.
What a bunch of dirty bitches.
need to stop calling it a glitch. call it a feature.
found the Path of Exile player :(
Nah. Just another burnt Ex-Bethesda fan.
60k votes from a glitch in a "non-battleground" state...
Joe CHEATED!!!
Did Trump file a lawsuit in Virginia? Anybody know?
I hope so
I would like to believe it, but the NoVA fag counties here always overwhelmingly decide for the rest of the state. They are huge and FUCKING OVERFLOWING with people, virtually all of whom are immigrants, federal employees and/or beltway wannabes/sycophants. It's why you saw the MSM call VA so early.
It's a wonderful part of the state -- house prices are like 3-5+ times the cost of anywhere else in the state, groceries are more expensive, and traffic is perpetually fucked!
VA was won by Trump.
Dominion machines there flipped hundreds of thousands of votes to Biden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
Am programmer, can confirm. Programs tend to follow their programming.
While I do not know the ballot ordering rules of Georgia, I do know as a programmer, a bug that swapped votes would be very obvious, especially if the name order of the ballots remains the same across all ballots. It CERTAINLY would show up in the software companies internal testing. There is zero way they let the software leave their doors without testing it. And they would have noticed vote flipping in their software. Even if these companies are run by pelosi and Feinstein, they would want to catch this bug if it was not intentional as it could hurt their candidate too.
Also this bug would not "just do enough to tip the election". Computers are very consistent with everything including their problems, we are not in space dealing with radiation flipping bits. It would also mean that in different states, that use the same software, you would almost certainly see the bug favor a different candidate. The chances that this bug just does enough to win the election, only for biden, in multiple states is basically zero.
A far more reasonable explanation to what we are seeing is either human error somewhere in the chain, an intentional software feature, or intentional human changes. Not a bug.
100% agree. Even in the worst case scenario, a bug like this, if it got into a major election before discovery, it'd not only invalidate the whole election (...hmmm!), but it'd have to be fixed as the absolute highest priority and certainly before the next election.
And yet, I read somewhere on here that this problem's been in play since 2016 and was documented sometime in 2018.
Oh, I'll add that even human error wouldn't skew towards one candidate exclusively. Thus, intentional "feature" or else an intentionally exploited vulnerability (fraud).
I can say as a dev who's done Govt. contracts for a long time, vendors absolutely let code out the door with shoddy testing like, a disturbing amount across the board, and have issues make it to production. I've never seen anything quite like it in the private sector.
That said, as we all know, this flipping stuff sure as shit wasn't a bug! Bugs break functionality, not create convenient side-effects to help very specific use cases.
Once I started my first programming job, I started writing JUnit tests for one of my department's big projects. I don't know anything is functional here.
It actually can be if they are using fuzzy algorithms such as neural networks. If they are using trained neural networks for text recognition on the ballots, which is highly possible, their model (processing program) can be trained on incomplete training samples data and would fail in the real world application. When the real data comes in, accuracy of a model drops significantly almost instantly, and that require manual relabeling of erroneous data, feeding it back into training loop and updating all the voting machine software on-the-fly as models updates are published. It's a non-reliable technology that extremely depends on peculiarities of training data. It may fail when you are using different pen color, print template differs even slightly from the training data or even lighting was a little bit different in scanning area and in training data.
YOU NEVER EVER SHOULD USE THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY WHEN ABSOLUTE ACCURACY IS REQUIRED. Who the hell cares if your model accuracy is 95%. It means 5% of ballots are lost, that would be unacceptable. You would not want to have a optional surgery that fails 5% of a time? That would be too much of a risk.
But since that "bug" always favor Biden, I highly doubt that it is the case. It is an intentional interference.
Dude, there aren't Neural Networks for this shit. You don't need a neural net for processing circles on ballots
You'd be amazed on the level of incompetency in software development. All that diversity hiring and affirmative action takes its toll.
Same here fellow IT pede.
It’s the weirdest thing... but they do what they’re told, and don’t do anything else
That'd be sooome memory corruption bug.
LOL you win.
On a slightly more serious note though, elections are one the most important aspects of our entire system of government. If it's actually some kind of actual bug, I would almost be even more livid. I mean, is nobody even testing this stuff?
(Honestly, it's scary how much code out there isn't tested, so as pissed as I'd be, I'd not be surprised.)
It's our election, our government, our physical property, and our damned future on the line. It should be open source too.
I and some infosec buddies are looking into Dominion Voting Systems. Their stuff is so insecure it's offensive.
Oof, that makes me sad. Not at all surprised, but very sad.
These glitches all have a habit of exclusively giving votes to Joe Biden in swing states at hours of the day people were least likely to be paying attention, often at a rate of 100%.
Yeah. Any evidence of the “glitch” giving votes to Trump?
They tried looking for glitches like that, but were quickly crushed under an avalanche of more Biden votes.
It's not a bug, it's a feature!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
--Some Twitter Shill
These glitches are becoming almost as prevalent as Biden's "gaffes."
Was this the "glitch" caused by an "update" to voting machines that wasn't supposed to be connected to the internet?
Or was this a different "glitch"? :D
this was actually reported 3 days ago https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/software-glitch-causes-delay-counting-thousands-of-votes-in-gwinnett-county
This weekend information warfare that the media is pushing by acting like Biden has won has done nothing but energize the right.
I feel more confident now that Trump wins than I did two days ago (and I was confident then!) TRUMP WILL WIN BECAUSE TRUMP HAS WON!
They really have energized the right. They are pretending Biden has won, but they are auditing ballots, dealing with recounts, having the Supreme Court rule on things. They may want to hold back a bit, but I guess their strategy is to act like Trump steals the election in the end.
Makes me even more suspicious. Why not give it a week? Wait until next week? At least in 2000 it was only 1 state being disputed. We have “glitches” everywhere, uncounted ballots, whistleblowers, orders from the supreme court, litigation—true chaos and the media & Biden team can’t wait a bit longer? This is either just political maneuvering and they are hoping they still come out on top & if not, they can at least create a civil war from the unrest this will cause when Trump truly wins or they think they are untouchable & the swamp will not let Trump win despite his best efforts to uncover this fraud.
Reeks of desperation, as if something massive will be discovered. Something for the real history books, not that kiddy bush-gore shit.
The media has no idea about the information warfare autistic pedes and the Trump. Campaign have going on behind the scenes. Perhaps they know a little on the lawsuits, but not nearly the extent
Normies certainly don't.
ah of course, a "glitch" how could we be so foolish. I mean, nobody has ever rigged elections in the history of the world. Tots my goats.
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
I will keep posting this on every thread i see - DO NOT LOSE FAITH IN THIS PRESIDENT. This man has survived everything. You really think this will stop him? All i ask is for you to disconnect from all TV news and relax, take a deep breath, and know that this man has never let us down before. This man is a master tactician.
80,000 would be enough to flip Georgia red, would it not?
The current margin is 9,160 votes. But GA has been finding more Biden votes all day, including the last drop of 1,982 votes with an absolutely insane Biden 91.0% / 9.0% Trump split.
Yeah, because that's totally natural and to be expected amirite?
Have you been to Georgia before? The only place liberals exist is in Atlanta... and the people of Atlanta are not/have not been afraid to go out in-person, they weren't sitting around filling out absentee ballots sheltering in-place because of fear from covid.
It also represents a huge percentage of the total registration in the seventh congressional district.
Yes
This whole election is a sham. Fuck Biden and duck libtards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
Today wad their highest day. Now we win. Feelagoodman
Has AZ finished counting yet? I heard there weren't that many votes left and Donald Trump needed a very high percentage of them. I could be wrong. Have the military ballots been counted yet?
"Gwinnett County uses Dominion Voting Systems, the same election software that glitched for Georgia’s Spalding and Morgan Counties on Tuesday morning, causing machines to crash on Election Day.
The Georgia counties use the same software as Michigan’s Antrim County, which also experienced a “glitch.”"
Dominion again! Systematic, widespread attempt at stealing the election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
See this?
Thanks Pede! This has been one wild ride. Hard to sleep waiting to see what happens next .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
What
IT pede here folks.
Anyone got any good info on exactly what these "glitches" are?
I would like to get the true details so us IT nerds can call out what the "glitches" really are.
We know, but have to explain it in meme format fir the normies and NPC folks.
Can we do foia request or how can we get the internal info about them?
No clue here, but also demanding answers.
My hunch is that when push comes to shove, they will try to play the game of not having a repository for the machine code, or worse, having a repository but actually running with unreleased / undocumented builds.
If I was running the operation, I would demand periodic pulls of the machine program before/after making any changes, and save them as backups to a protected, master archive. That way, even if they were doing unscrupulous shit with changes to the machine code, you could always revert back and reproduce the issues, as well as demonstrate how the changed code fixed the issue, all without needing to dig into the proprietary code itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=145
Explains it all in detail.
Yep, already watched it.
As an IT engineer, i would immediately fire anyone involved in this piss poor design.
Really need to requir federal audit and design standards on how all this has to be done. Specific laws, no data outside US borders, encryption, pass certification tests, etc.
I can't believe this is real.
If you cheat enough, it goes beyond the point of being able to recount and never gets found. It's only caught if the republicans beat polls by 5%+ and make it razor thin. What are the odds of that though, right?
Why not? Nobody stood up to it before.
I have a feeling that a lot of them believed their own bullshit polls and thought Biden would win in a landslide. Once FL, OH, and IA were called, and MI, WI, and PA were looking really good for GEOTUS, they slammed on the brakes and realized that they had very little time left to "fix" this. So they got sloppy and did a rush job. That can be seen by the sheer number of votes for just Biden but nothing down-ballot. It can also be seen by them only ejecting poll watchers later on in the day when the really intense fraud started.
Hey - that’s okay. It’s all super by accident right?
Wow. Just wow. Every time we think it couldn't get more blatant, it gets worse. I see the Supreme Court's ruling in three letters: WTF?
haha
Control the narrative. Glitch => System Breach
So both Gwinnete and Fulton was effected?
So kind of like this?
https://thedonald.win/p/11PpU0eloS/ga-issues-last-night/c/
Yes
Fraud only exists if Trump wins <--------- MSM
When Trump wins, we will finally have a meaningful chance at getting Voter ID, because both parties will be screaming that there is voting fraud.
Oh wow, a glitch? I wonder who it helped!
Sources say the "glitch" involved screaming liberals, tearing ballots in half and throwing them away.
What’s the status of 37 other states with the same programming glitch? Does anyone know?
No nothing to see here. Everything is on the up and up. American elections couldn’t possibly have fraud. If it does we don’t really want you to know. You need to believe that it is completely fair. /s
I'm sensing some big dick energy shit posting in the next few days from the Trump team. I also have a feeling election fraud is just the start something tells me this is gonna evolve into a Rico case against the DNC and top operatives.
Soooo the "Dominion Voting System Technicians" will fix it? I hope someone watches them do it.
Sounds like a great way to purge logs maybe even accidentally delete everything
Do you believe Trump has concrete evidence? If it goes to court, is it in our favor?
80,000 abesentee ballots. i assume mostly military. what are the odds that that alone flips bidens leead in georgita once audited and corrrected
Please tell me we can salvage Georgia, we desperately need Perdue to get to 50%
We all realize there is no glitch right?
This was a feature.
So when the news says there is no glitch they are technically correct.
If we take this shit laying down then we deserve everything that's going to happen. It could not be more in our face about the fraud that's occuring and I really hope people are ready to walk the walk if it comes down to it.
I get that glitches happen, but it is NOT appropriate to just call something a glitch and not have a proper explanation for it for what was done wrong and why it happened.
Even with proprietary software, we should be demanding at LEAST a change log showing what issues had occurred and what was done to fix them. THAT is what you do when you are being transparent to your customers on your product, especially in cases where it is hard to discern trust in the results that you were given previously.
WHERE ARE THE CHANGE LOGS?
Me too. How about FUBAR. Glitch sounds so cutesy. Like, oops, i put too much sugar in the muffins. Now they're cupcakes.
The front page of Reddit is just.. Feel like I live in China.
So many "glitches" with the voting machines. As a software engineer, I can only roll my eyes. There are only two possibilities:
Pushing known incorrect vote totals ... is fraud.
These lazy motherfuckers need to just count it by hand.
Chinese cheating with lucky 8 numbers.
I used to live in Gwinett county. At least back in 2008 it was still a pretty conservative place. Part of the Atlanta Metro, a lot of suburbs but also a lot of small towns that grew really fast. Still had a Southern feel but there were awesome people from all over the world, legal immigrants making the best life for themselves that they could.
There were probably a lot of votes for President Trump there, and who knows how many of those great people were disenfranchised.
And The Media Has Gone All In For Joe. The Media Is Going To Become Defunct. We are going to see more and more of these "Glitches". Trump will win by 80 Million.
I hope the President and the GOP get EVERYTHING needed first, and then strike for a 1 hit TKO lawsuit on the entire corrupt system. No fuck ups, everything must be perfect.
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ PRESIDENT TRUMP, TAKE MY HIGH ENERGY! ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
I feel like this “glitch” is really “ope, we got caught let’s say it’s a glitch so we don’t get thrown in jail”.
Oooopsie!!!!
Over under. Corn pimple bad dude. It was him that manufactured 40 million votes for me. He's the one. The.
Blank stare.
Jill Biden looks on with panic.
This shits just getting fucking nuts.
Please Georgia GO RED