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trump2036 304 points ago +307 / -3 (edited)

That helps against someone photocopying ballots and mailing them in. Doesn't help when the poll workers are taking official ballot paper and marking them and adding it to the pile of legit ballots. Or doing the same thing overnight and dropping a box of them off as "found at the post office", along with help from a local judge that asks usps to scan all facilities twice a day to find the magic boxes of ballots that appear out of thin fucking air

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boxmakingmachines 221 points ago +223 / -2

Or doing the same thing overnight and dropping a box of them off as "found at the post office"

2020 has blown my mind regarding how easily people are manipulated and misled.

Just tell a lie long enough, loud enough, and often enough and roughly 40% of people will believe it and chastise others for not doing so.

Like, seriously, how do people not find it suspicious that Trump was up bigly, then numerous states STOPPED FUCKING COUNTING VOTES, then resumed counting votes the next day and all of a sudden kept 'finding' more votes until Biden was named the 'projected' winner?

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Phil_DeGraves 105 points ago +107 / -2

2020 has blown my mind regarding how easily people are manipulated and misled. Just tell a lie long enough, loud enough, and often enough and roughly 40% of people will believe it and chastise others for not doing so.

Humans are pretty fucked up psychologically, very easy to deceive, brainwash and manipulate. Another example of that is the fact that a huge percentage of ordinary people will torture other people, including all the way to death, as long as an authority figure asks them to do it and reassures them that it's okay:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

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HaleyNunes2024 46 points ago +46 / -0

People are particularly susceptible to a lie that validates their feelings. That explains the success of the Charlottesville "fine people" hoax.

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FraudianComplex123 7 points ago +7 / -0

Audit is the best solution. Repeating the elections will just help them steal again. Every time we repeat the elections in East Europe it always ends much worse. Just audit, recount with court appointed Watchers, and Supreme court that pedo Joe. He's going to jail!!

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prancie 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s easy to lie to people, you tell them what they want to hear and most of the time they buy it.

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wernerziegler 37 points ago +37 / -0

People have reached the point where you could show them all the dead bodies outside the concentration camps and they would deny anybody is dying inside. The media have far too many people convinced that conflicting information is just disinformation. I show people CIA docs proving that Russian collusion was 100% fucking bullshit and a majorityvof them dent reality and respond by referring to fucking NBC News articles.

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Phil_DeGraves 11 points ago +11 / -0

This may shed some light:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments

This experiment had people in a group in a room, 1 subject and 7 actors, and the 7 actors served as "group consensus". However, the MSM news can be viewed as a proxy for those actors, (falsely) establishing a purported "group consensus" that may work exactly the same way on a subject.

So whether it's 7 actors sitting with you telling you that black is white, or it's the MSM news saying "everyone is saying that black is white!", it likely works the same on your brain.

If not already familiar, read that article and read the Milgram one, too. Both are fascinating stuff.

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Angerisagift 7 points ago +7 / -0

Not everyone conforms. But they don’t need everyone too. Only the children could yell “The Emperor has no clothes!” The adults were afraid to say aloud what was so evident.

And this is why the Founders were skeptical about leaving too much to the mob. And there are safeguards, but only time will tell how they work between now and January 20th.

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PurestEvil 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh, this is damn fascinating!

But do you know which part is the most interesting? The variant in which ONE actor says the truth.

It takes very few, sometimes even just one person to speak truth to power. And it will encourage many more to speak out. Apparently we need heroes like that...

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Phil_DeGraves 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup. That's why the left tries so hard to crush anyone who publicly speaks the truth.... because it can awaken so many others. This is why they push their consensus to be unanimous. This is why they push "cancel culture" so damned hard.

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FakeNametag 9 points ago +9 / -0

This is why we must start our own news channel. We need a billionaire to do it. There is only one billionaire on our side.

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Notablitheringidiot 2 points ago +2 / -0

We need to get John McAfee on board.

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pmyourcovfefes 1 point ago +1 / -0

Uhhh idk. He’s smart but he’s got some issues.

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Notablitheringidiot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nobodies perfect

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FakeNametag 1 point ago +1 / -0

He's a bit too unpredictable. Also, not sure he's still a billionaire.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yuri Bezmanov referred to it as demoralization. Unfortunately a very high percentage of Americans have been completely demoralized.

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the-new-style 7 points ago +7 / -0

The funny thing about Yuri is he's describing the de-Nazification programme developed by the Frankfurt school for post WW2 Germany.

Today we call that Cultural Marxism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niiF8hCSrYQ

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wernerziegler 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes I have been trying to remind people of Yuri's warnings for a while now. People are brainwashed by the lies of legacy media. People are demoralized, they give up and accept what they're told because believe any narrative that is counter to that would be so uncomfortable and shocking that it would fracture their picture of the world. I have been showing people the evidence of the fraud in this election and they respond with nothing more than emoji's. They're fucking disgusting sheep. They don't grasp the seriousness of what happened in this election nor the importance that this brazen election fraud. They can't grasp the danger of allowing this kind of massive election fraud could have on the future of this country.

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pmyourcovfefes 2 points ago +2 / -0

78% of Americans don’t trust the election results.

Pretty on par with Epstein didn’t kill himself.

People know.

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Italians_Invented_2A 1 point ago +1 / -0

the first part of what you said is a core part of holocaust denialism. Once people settle on a belief, it is very hard to shake them from it with evidence, and they will often go a long way to read anything as supporting their cause.

Funny, I think the exact same thing about the people who believe in the "official" history.

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Italians_Invented_2A 1 point ago +1 / -0

what we're being accused of

Who the fuck is "we"? Are you German?

It's a little funny that there is very little dispute about the atrocities carried out by the Japanese during their occupation(s) and in the POW camps they ran, but there is still plenty of argument about what the Germans did. Is that racist? Is it because one group of people are Yellow, and one White?

Meanwhile there is absolutely zero public knowledge about the millions of Germans that were enslaved and exterminated after WWII. I'm not talking about victims of war. I'm talking about millions of Germans being put in concentration camps after the war has ended. More than a million simply disappeared.

Nobody knows shit about it because white people can never be seen as the victim. That is the real racism that exists today.

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esheki808 13 points ago +13 / -0

Man that's depressing...

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202700000000 24 points ago +25 / -1 (edited)

Yeah but it can also save your life. For example if you're ever in a car crash or in trouble and you see a crowd standing around not helping, that's called the bystander-effect. The reason is because everybody thinks "someone else will take care of it".

To get around it, point someone out in the crowd, for example "you in the red shirt, come help", and they will help because it's no longer "somebody else's" problem.

Knowing basic psychology is as important as knowing how to add 2 + 2. You could save your own life, or somebody else's.

Yeah, con artists use psychology. But so do good people. Everyone here is being manipulated by Trump, because he understands marketing. Is that a bad thing? No, because Trump is manipulating you into saving America. With great power comes great responsibility.

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sackofwisdom 8 points ago +8 / -0

Machiavellian understanding of reality and human nature is an amoral tool.

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AWeekendAtBidens 4 points ago +4 / -0

If one side is bound by morals and the other isn't, who wins?

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sackofwisdom 2 points ago +2 / -0

There are many layers of games being played.

If you are playing chess, keep an eye out for moving chess pieces out of turn. The immoral person could flip the game board over or shoot you in the face, but if you are wise you will be ready to "shoot first" like Han and Guido in the Tatooine bar.

You asked an interesting question. I'd like to see it unpacked some more.

Natural Law comes to mind. Does it always prevail over "evil". How does the universe actually deal with these issues?

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202700000000 2 points ago +2 / -0

The moral side usually. Because people are hardwired to prefer things like honesty, it's a survival mechanism. Lies only work short-term. People aren't that bad really, things like "marketing" get a bad rep even though your life is pretty good because of it.

Yeah some people abuse it, but that goes for everything.

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bigdaddy2 6 points ago +9 / -3

I wouldn't say we're all being manipulated by Trump... To be fair I find the way he talks and his tweets to be pretty silly. I kinda wish he didn't do it that way because a lot of people see it negatively and use it as a way to dismiss him.

BUT, the actions he is taking and the issues he campaigned on is what made me want to vote for him and support him. And I can tell that truly deep inside he wants what's best for the country and will fight to get it. Thats what matters to me, not words, marketing, and manipulation. Thats for the dems.

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Varangian 6 points ago +6 / -0

“My Twitter is so strong I can force my enemies to tell the truth.”

— Guess Who

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Phil_DeGraves 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

"If you totaled up the score and found / That my side of the board was winning / Then my ex-friend you might be a loser!"

— Guess Who

("Lie Down", from the album "#10", RCA Records, 1973)

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MAGAMill2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

I heard math is racist though??

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EnemiesDestroyed 1 point ago +2 / -1

I’m self-aware of the bystander effect in this stolen election. We all think someone else will save it for us or lead a movement. What will you do to stop the steal, brothers and sisters? I’m calling out to YOU! The person reading this. What will you do?

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KAGMAGIC2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump MUST call us into action. Yes we came and voted. But he has to hold rallies now and tell us to descend on DC in the largest protest in history. He has that power.

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ripley88 6 points ago +6 / -0

I just bought Milgrams book to take a deep dive into this. The shock experiments are what people ought to know about instead of the Stanford Prison Experiment; the SPE isn't replicable and partly, of course, because the people taking part knew they were part of an experiment. It's also sad to think of how high a percentage of people delivered the fatal shock when nothing was at stake; extrapolate that out to war time Germans whose lives, families and more were on the line and it makes sense how the Holocaust happened.

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NoCoupForYou 4 points ago +4 / -0

There's a new book out that has access to all the raw data.

John WIlliams, his assistant, was totally half-assed about the whole thing. Some people he argued with, berated, even physically took their hand and placed it on the button. Others, I guess if he didn't have his coffee, he let go at the first hesitation.

He was only supposed to say four times "The experiment must continue/You are obligated to continue", but he deviated from that. It's on the audio records.

Some knew it was a scam the moment John Williams showed them the check, that was dogeared and partially crumpled, like it had been handled over and over again. Others heard the sounds coming from towards the floor and thought it a recording, and said they knew it was a scam.

But one thing all the resisters had in common: Firm Moral/Religious beliefs.

Whereas college students trained to defer to authority had no problem smacking the button, it was the old based factory guys that gave the most problems.

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terrichris 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

I read Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland last year. It was not hot headed Nazi Youth that started killing innocence people. Of the 500 ordinary people - salesmen, truck drivers, etc - in this police force, only 4 or 5 refused to kill innocence. The rest killed out of obedience to authority and peer pressure.

My brother would say, Hitler killed nobody but himself. Ordinary German citizens with the help of Russians killed them. And few refused.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060995068?linkId=07b0fc7f0ed7cc6e4ea86e0ec2e33bae

I also read The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of World War II. Ordinary medical personnel raped and killed and tortured people.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465068367?linkId=de196e04f0c0e49c6bf5446e042f9cf0

I'm going to add that Mao & Stalin did not kill hundreds of millions of their own citizens less than a hundred years ago. It was ordinary people.

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NoCoupForYou 2 points ago +2 / -0

The best story, is some good South Boston Irish sonofagun told him "If anything hahpens to that fellah on da ahder side of the room, I'm gonna give YOU a shock in the parking lot tomorrow morning, Mac!"

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Keln 4 points ago +4 / -0

People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.

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kraut 46 points ago +47 / -1

It is some 1984 level shit.

Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

2016-2020 Russia manipulated our election with 10000$ in Facebook Ads

2020- Election Fraud is impossible you bigot, Biden won.

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Sporadica 6 points ago +6 / -0

$10,000 eh? I heard $6,000 most of the time.

How the F does 10k worth of ads swing an election? I don't think you can even reach 20k people with that money.

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kraut 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tbh 10k was just out of my head i thought it was in that range but 6k is nearly 50% less. 6k is probably more accurate if you read it.

But in the end its 6-10k vs millions...

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sfmaga 43 points ago +44 / -1

The responses are insane. One told me "the mail-in ballots were such a large quantity, due to covid, that it takes longer to count". No suspicion and the utmost of certainty.

Sometimes I feel like a philosopher when I need to counter all the mental gymnastics.

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ThinkingAboutYou 15 points ago +15 / -0

Texas and Florida had over 11 million voters and they counted 99% of them in one night including the mail in ballots. But it takes a week for Georgia, Pa and NC to count 3-4 million votes. I wouldn't buy that even if I hadn't seen the overwhelming evidence of dead voters and 'glitches'..

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NoCoupForYou 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think Florida not only counted the mails in as they came in, I believe they counted them a second time during Election day and were already done second counting them by poll close.

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maga_gal 3 points ago +3 / -0

Gosh damn it, I love my state. We moved from Arizona to Texas in 2016... dodged that bullet!!!

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wernerziegler 6 points ago +6 / -0

Exactly. I have been pushing people to realize tha mail-in voting supporters in government are the same people that have been kept in office because their electors are forced to use only mail-in ballots. Vote by mail should be fucking banned and voter ID shoukd be universally required, as should signature verification. No more fucking around.

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wernerziegler 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep. That was exactly the reason the corrupt pieces of shit at the DNC suddenly began to push VBM early this year. They knew that the pandemic gave them cover to use VBM to try to steal the election. They developed ballot harvesting techniques in states with VBM-only election systems and they want to make it a national voting system so they can use it to corrupt the entire country's election system. It should have been fucking banned years ago. Elections need to be guarded against fraud just like any other governmental institution. The lost of the power of the vote would DESTROY this country as we know it.

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neehl 3 points ago +4 / -1

I’ve recently come into 5,000,000 and I’d love for you to share it with me! To do so, I need you to send me 5,000 so I can claim my prize and then when I get the money I’ll split it with you. These seem so obvious and stupid but the amount of people that fall for them EVERY YEAR is astounding. Humans are stupid unfortunately.

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Sporadica 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sadly there are A LOT of fucking morons in our society.

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TypicalEd 4 points ago +5 / -1

Most do, but the media will push fake polls on us to control our reality.

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BoatingAccident 39 points ago +40 / -1

das raycis

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james43552352345 29 points ago +30 / -1

Yeah, There needs to be ways that the entire voting process is entirely transparent...to the point where both dems and repubs agree on how the overall process is conducted and it is virtually impossible for voting fraud to occur.

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Allyourbase 47 points ago +48 / -1

Democrats? Agree? To end the scam? Are you high?

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james43552352345 10 points ago +11 / -1

hahaha, yes, that's why they're always pushing back at making elections more secure.

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Allyourbase 7 points ago +8 / -1

I don't doubt they will larp . Trump cheated too. Russia Russia. China. It was only a few bad 🍎. How dare a few bad guys dare. Clutch China Pearls.

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DebbieinDallas 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump did not cheat. Take that back.

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Allyourbase 3 points ago +3 / -0

You better prepare yourself. The media will find someone. They have to. Biden name will not be dragged.

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DaayTerkErJerbs 4 points ago +5 / -1

Dudes smoking fucking boulders with Hunter me thinks jk

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wernerziegler 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly. Unfortunately, the GOP had their hands tied due to the "consent decree" and the Dems went wild with voting laws whenever they had power. They have eroded away the power of the vote and it's getting scary whatvlevels they will stoop to in order to win. They would kill their grandmothers to win an election.

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TheReal45 8 points ago +9 / -1

In that case Dems won’t win large cities that much more or that easily. So it’s racist.

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Allyourbase 4 points ago +5 / -1

Now this I'm fucking looking forward to. Bye she jack. Bye Pelosi. Bye noodles.

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Cantshadowbanthemall 8 points ago +10 / -2

Thumb print on a vote

We all have biometric ID

Computers can easily scan for duplicates

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james43552352345 6 points ago +7 / -1

Good suggestions, point is that there are numerous technologies that can be used to eliminate fraud in the system.

I would say we need to simply go back to in-person polling for everything. Film it all and have cameras everywhere. Dems will say it is discriminatory or whatever but there is nothing stopping them from educating their voters on how to vote and so on. Either we believe in fair elections - and implement them properly (to eliminate fraud) - or we don't. Dems want a system were fraud is acceptable at any level as long as everyone gets to vote.

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Forgotmyname 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hell at this point they could hand out beans and have them put in a box and be more accurate

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ifiwerearichman420 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wish, you can get biometric duplicates from a high enough resolution photo these days. Why? because that is what a biometric scan is. It is a high resolution photo.

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Cantshadowbanthemall 1 point ago +1 / -0

You would still see two. Thus fraud

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formerlibtard 8 points ago +9 / -1

the way tech is these days, we should be able to livestream every fucken thing

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james43552352345 9 points ago +10 / -1

100%, if police are required to wear body cams, so should poll workers.

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Allyourbase 6 points ago +7 / -1

And audio. And must not destroy anything till. Feburary 1st. If found to be in contempt. Ten years jail. Streamed so workers can't target Republicans for this part of my idea. You know they would delete a camera memory and throw us in jail.

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ifiwerearichman420 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is no reason to destroy anything ever. TBH. Voter Software can be created that is secure.

If you pay your taxes, provide your SSN, a user, pass, email, and telephone #. address, etc... like with any other financial transaction you can cast your vote without fraud.

Can literally have a digital trail that can't be "Deleted". Any process that involves humans is going to have Fraud.

No tax records? no vote. No SSN? no vote. No english? no vote. No address? No vote. (even mexicans know to put down the nearest church as their address when they're illegals.)

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Allyourbase 3 points ago +3 / -0

My biggest basic voter request. Ink the damned fingers. No bussing homeless around.

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james43552352345 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yup but there is technology to detect people fucking around with data. What you do is program the computer to monitor everything and then let the algorithm control everything. If all the code is audited and verified (publicly) then you won't be able to cheat. Even if you modify the code you can detect the code was modified as well.

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Allyourbase 2 points ago +3 / -1

Your forgetting. Streaming protects places like Philly were the whole sepsis is rotten the core.

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Allyourbase 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yes the crumbs are digitally there. But republican poll watchers would be roasted straight to jail. So streaming it online helps. I don't want a loop to be left. Over head cameras no doubt. Maybe a sensor for the bathroom to auto turn off the feed.

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FancyBeerCoozyBeer 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can have a changelog on a database. I don't think you can log active memory or the programs running in it. Literally a cheatengine table couldn't be logged.

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Crisis83 11 points ago +12 / -1

It does help because you can verify the mail-in vote (out vs in) and voter records if that person voted. For in person votes that could be verified also by voting location how many people voted. If there is a gap, someone inserted a ballot. The ballot boxes that some states used for drop off could tally up to all the “mailed out” ballots. Of course it’s possible that extras were made and farmed but each one should have a name attached in the count.

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formerlibtard 4 points ago +5 / -1

it would be so easy to implement a blockchain for ballots. not to be a watermark shill, but if that was not done this election, it should absolutely be done for future elections.

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Crisis83 6 points ago +7 / -1

Yup. But Democrants and probably some extent Rino’s don’t want a fair and transparent election. States like california and Washington have enough money and brain power to implement a blockchain solution, where the ledger would be open to public audit.

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Medicnz2 1 point ago +1 / -0

I dont think you understand... there are no future elections if Trump fails.

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formerlibtard 1 point ago +1 / -0

i didn't say trump would fail.

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MAGA1775 95 points ago +99 / -4 (edited)

The identifiers really don't mean much if it was Dominion or Hammer and Scorecard that was largely responsible for the fraud, for example, those 200k or 300k counts that came in at 4am across multiple states, correct? Or am I wrong?

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PhilipeNegro 42 points ago +43 / -1

You're exactly right - there are two columns of fraud here:

  1. Mail-in ballots, a racket executed by operators inside the USPS, coordinated with election handlers, and seems to be taking several forms.

  2. Dominion/CIA backdoor products, manipulating live voting and other database entries.

They are related, but separate issues to be pursued.

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NotTheTendies 33 points ago +34 / -1

I want to see Bidens true numbers. I bet he truly lost every State.

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Fluffy_Indigo 23 points ago +24 / -1

The sheer scale of this operation makes Watergate look like a childs operation.

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polyking 11 points ago +11 / -0

The russiagate conspiracy made watergate look like a child's operation. This is a world changing event. If they get away with this, there is no more democracy. There will no longer be a western civilization. There will only be the chosen put into positions of power.

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ifiwerearichman420 2 points ago +2 / -0

guess i'll redpill you with some vocabulary words:

Gerrymandering Tweedism

There never was anything but the chosen put into positions of power.

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kwiztas 1 point ago +1 / -0

You think that is the extent of it?

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polyking 2 points ago +2 / -0

No way. There is definitely dark forces at work using all sorts of means. But the 2016 election is a colossal hole they're trying to fill. Its an absolute necessity to hold the line here, now.

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Sixty2ndAssassin 14 points ago +15 / -1

74 Million is probably Trump's real number...

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Doritalos 4 points ago +4 / -0

I wouldn't go that far. New York, Chicago, and California would vote for Stalin.

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LockeThePatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Depends. Does he think men can menstruate? If not, he's an alt-right extremist.

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PhilipeNegro 2 points ago +2 / -0

This could be said about any race after 1980, tbh.

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KARMAAACS 5 points ago +5 / -0

There's multiple types of fraud occurring.

There's the actual phyical ballot fraud, such as:

  • Fake ballots potentially being counted.
  • Ballots being mailed in later than cut off dates and being backdated by Postal Service.
  • Ballots being filled in by ballot "counters".
  • Ballots being "fixed" by ballot "counters".
  • Ballots being counted that have no signature or postmark or witness.
  • Ballots being "transferred" to new ballots by the National Guard due to "misprints with the ballots".
  • Dead people voting in an election that they obviously could not vote in.

Then there's the software avenue:

  • Software 'glitches' to flip votes to the wrong candidate.
  • Software isn't secure and can easily be manipulated, CNN did a piece on this in 217 as part of their 'Muh Russia stole the vote" conspiracy, but it's a legitimate concern, computer voting or counting is always susceptible to this type of manipulation.
  • Results aren't uploading to their destination correctly. Happens quite often either by human error or the software being broken or not working correctly.
  • Results aren't being uploaded period by certain counties.

Then there's juststuff that is just plain illegal or not the proper process:

  • Not allowing the observing of ballots by Republicans and counting them anyway.
  • Covering windows in counting rooms.
  • Saying you've stopped counting only for more ballots to randomly "show up" giving one candidate enough votes to lead.
  • Enough ballots showing up to lead one candidate and to go over the recount threshold, such as in PA. 0.5 % = recount. 0.51% = no recount
  • Then there's ballots being found in the garbage or in rivers or in the desert or under rocks that should have been delivered.

In the end, the evidence of fraud or just straight up manipulation of the electoral process is pretty clear, despite what the MSM says. There's multiple types of fraud occurring, not just one type. But as soon as you point that out they say "There's no evidence!". I guarantee you that if this happened to Biden, the media would be screaming at the top of their lungs about the election being stolen.

The question is, can anything actually be done to fix the fraud? The Court process is slow and by the time the electoral college electors put in their votes, it could be too late. It's going to be an uphill battle.

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Whirlybot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe add ‘problems with delivery of mail in ballots to the voter. Think of the usual ‘non voter’ population (such as ‘motor voter’ automatic registrations.) If those people’s ballots were intercepted before reaching the homes, those non voters aren’t going to put in much effort to locate them, having to go thru 800 automated phone lines, etc. Those votes could be marked and returned. Those would blend in seamlessly and couldn’t be identified.

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dykstra89 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. Straight up stage 4 tds retards who throw fits and flip off ballots on camera. These are the lone wolves.
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kek_mate 1 point ago +1 / -0

So here's the thing. They'd have to know there would be recounts yes? If the fraud in the numbers is purely digital and recounts will swing the vote 100K+ votes the other way then that seems like a stupid way to commit fraud. Unless the intent was to have this whole game go on, it flip back to trump and then they have a four year narrative.

If you're going to steal an election though, why not actually steal it for real?

Or were they that cocky that they could just digitally flip votes, and leave the real ballots indicating another result and that it'd never get as far as validation?

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TheReal45 16 points ago +17 / -1

Yes. It’s all of the above. Dead people voting, fake ballots filled by Dem organizers, duplicates, disenfranchising Trump supporters citing issues, curing Democratic absentee ballots, Dominion, Scorecard, and many more... spread it around enough so that each in itself doesn’t look like it could change the result on its own.

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FancyBeerCoozyBeer 4 points ago +4 / -0

It is always multiple avenues. That way, one gets caught, it is deemed to not be detrimental to the result and chalked up to a mistake and "fixed right away, we take this very seriously" and a bunch of other security PR bullshit or j"ust the way it is supposed to work" like with provisional ballots or whatever excuse they have for a particular fraud. Taken separately they are nothing, together they are treason. Tackling them is fighting a hydra.

The incomoetence is coordinated as well. In my state the registration system is retarded on purpose. It reverts it if you change it outside a certain window. So people complain and it provides cover for when the SoS does actually change GOP registrations to unaffiliated each primary which ITSELF is cover for polling models which THEMSELVES are cover for the outright fraud in the general election. How can I prove any of this? Well my registration got flipped, I didn't get to vote for Trump in the primary. Boo hoo. Nobody cares and there was some clerical error apparently. Nobody can check their votes because of the risk of vote selling or some shit, when I could literally have them watch me fill it out. It's all just a crock of shit.

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Awilen 3 points ago +3 / -0

If there's one thing I know from infosec, it's that increasing the surface of attack leads to higher chances of individuals finding vulnerabilities and exploiting them. AFAIK this holds true in any security field.

The US shouldn't have that many avenues for voting, as well as a robust system to ensure 1 citizen = 1 vote.

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chlorophyll [S] 27 points ago +28 / -1

This just shows us that votes were sent to whom, and which votes came back... so they can't shred them and say they never received them if they really scanned it or it really went through post.

Electronic voting is its own system. Trump made the Space Force so it is a swamp free zone and CyberSec is part of space force! Look at this timeline:

8/2/18: "Strong action to secure elction systems" https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-strengthening-security-elections/

Jan 29 2020: US Cyber command poised to support US election security... https://web.archive.org/web/20200716024316/https://www.nsa.gov/News-Features/News-Stories/Article-View/Article/2069163/us-cyber-command-nsa-poised-to-support-us-election-security/

6/26/20: "National cyber director act" with CyberSecurity Advisor Rudy Giuliani https://web.archive.org/web/20200920114411/https://www.complianceweek.com/cyber-security/bill-proposes-national-cyber-security-czar/29126.article

9/4/20:CyberSec principals for Space Force: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/09/04/trump-administration-launches-first-cybersecurity-principles-space-technologies

10/21/20: Trump signs making hacking voting systems a federal crime: https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/522151-trump-signs-legislation-into-law-making-hacking-voting-systems-a-federal

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WestCoastG 11 points ago +12 / -1

Nice username

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BilbroNaggins 2 points ago +2 / -0

We have "The Expert" in charge of the Cyber, he came and "BING BING BING" -ALL SECURED PRESIDENT DAD SIR.

Thank you Baron.

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Memeite 1 point ago +1 / -0

American cybersecurity is one of the world leaders. So much money in this space

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MAGA1775 10 points ago +12 / -2

Interesting, I didn't know that about Space Force and CyberSec. Man....I wish I could see all the evidence that Trump has right now. No wonder he's so calm.

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LiberalismIsTheVirus 4 points ago +5 / -1

Are the dems that crazy to walk into this? Wtf is wrong with them besides the obvious mental disorders?

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esheki808 2 points ago +3 / -1

Mind. Fuckin. Blown.

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DanIsSwell 2 points ago +3 / -1

Did not know that about Space Force. I’m finally gonna order the hat.

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sully 24 points ago +25 / -1

The ballots are tied to a specific individual.

This means they can track if a vote was counted for one party when the actual ballot has another.

Additionally if the vote is missing completely they can ask where the ballot went for John Doe that is clearly in the database for having sent a ballot.

I'm sure there are many other scenarios.

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kek_mate 2 points ago +2 / -0

they can also, for example, validate all the provisional ballots that were handed out in arizona but never validated. IIRC the purpose of providing more ID was to ensure the absentee ballot was not cast, with direct ID that can be checked and the provisional used...

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Tymbo 9 points ago +11 / -2

Is dominion for mail ins only? Or also the regular ballots?

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moraxal 7 points ago +10 / -3

both

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Luckyftw 5 points ago +6 / -1 (edited)

Edit: My guess was completely wrong, so I just deleted it to help limit misinformation. Check the reply to this comment for a lot better insight.

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montag 3 points ago +4 / -1

Dominion is the scanner/sender of the votes. SCYTL is the centralized storage. Check my post history if you want to know more.

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Klyuchak 2 points ago +3 / -1

No, the final storage, official and unofficial, and tabulator are just a few of the many modules of the Dominion program, there are like a dozen different attacks from various different modules that can be done. This video is a bit lengthy, but does a great job of covering most of the "vulnerabilities". Starts at 2:00

https://youtu.be/ficae6x1Q5A

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Luckyftw 1 point ago +2 / -1

Nice thanks for info. I'll delete mine and lead them to yours.

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ClarenceBeeks 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dominion may have different products. They definitely have machines too. And these machines are on the Internet. They should not be. Probably against state rules too.

This is interesting: https://thedonald.win/p/11PpTyN9Yi/found-this-on-4chan-cant-make-he/

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FuckTheOtherSide 6 points ago +7 / -1

I think it matters once you recount the votes

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aussie_maga 52 points ago +54 / -2

OK, this is BIG if true for all those battle ground states!!

A watermark on the ballot only prevents fake ballots. A unique ID per VOTER is a different story!!

So, the important move is to build a court case for Trump Campaign to gain physical access to the ballots (before they destroy it).

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Minarchist_Manlet 20 points ago +23 / -3

Lol I kind of want them to destroy the ballots and say "oops." Find out what the SCOTUS justices think of that.

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aussie_maga 25 points ago +26 / -1

They will be forced to destroy it, similar to how Hillary destroyed her servers and Mueller team destroyed their phones.

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bejeavis 20 points ago +21 / -1

Exactly. They will burn their own house down with a smirk if it means destroying the proof.

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LaPastillaEscarlata 10 points ago +11 / -1

Then Comey will appear out of thin air saying "No reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against Clinton" then Pelosi will elbow him in the side and she'll say "He meant against these states". Barr will start to write a strongly worded letter but SCOTUS will step in and rule in favor of Trump and Biden will shrug and sniff the closest kid he can find.

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DanIsSwell 4 points ago +5 / -1

But if they destroy the cheat ballots, they won’t have anything to show for how they reached those numbers, so they’re screwed either way.

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KARMAAACS 1 point ago +1 / -0

The MSM will just explain it away like always. SCOTUS will eat it up too. They're cucked.

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alexnader 9 points ago +9 / -0

Not if you assign a "specific mail-in ID" to every voter, they've essentially gotten an ID whether they like it or not.

Womp Womp. Let's see how this plays out.

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Memeite 2 points ago +2 / -0

Classic Trump.

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chlorophyll [S] 10 points ago +11 / -1

If the "watermark" is a QR-Code style unique identifier in tiny yellow dots then it's a complete game-changer.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170607-why-printers-add-secret-tracking-dots

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Hans_MacGruber 5 points ago +5 / -0

Tony Shaffer (who served on an advisory board for Trump campaign) hints that there’s much more than QR code technology available: https://twitter.com/t_s_p_o_o_k_y/status/1324568463566807040?s=21

I can’t wait to see the trap that they laid for the Dems.

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Dtom13 3 points ago +5 / -2

It sounds like larping and we've heard this repeatedly. I hope so but I'm not holding my breath. We'll have to fight for Trump to the bitter end. I believe he will ultimately win but there is no magic bullet and it will take a concerted effort by millions of people to expose this fraudulent bullshit.

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Memeite 1 point ago +1 / -0

I imagine that watermarking is just to prove it it's the correct type of ballot paper.

this way you can't take a photo copy of each paper and then recreate it with the numbers and names you want yourself.

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iPertinax 7 points ago +8 / -1

Before they destroy what? Ballots? That would be a smoking gun too in this case because they'd know which IDs cast a vote. When the physical ballot no longer exists, the fraud becomes demonstrable.

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aussie_maga 9 points ago +9 / -0

Dude if you pay attention they have been destroying things brazenly, e.g. Hillary's servers, Mueller team's phones, and been getting away with it.

Theyll have some schmuck destroy it and go to jail for them.

Next, media will go into overdrive saying, if you don't have proof that those destroyed ballots even went for Joe Biden, then it is just conspiracy!

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NYRepublican72 6 points ago +6 / -0

There are rules against destroying ballots. They're much more likely to just add ballots to the system from ballots they harvest.

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Forgotmyname 5 points ago +5 / -0

There are rules against destroying emails. There are rules against destroying servers and blackberrys and iPhones. There are rules against rigging an election. They don’t give a fuck and they get away with it.

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MakeALaskaGreatAgain 1 point ago +2 / -1

We got at least one thing going for us. This is way bigger than those other examples and everything is on the line for us and particularly DJT here so we may just see an all out fight this time. Those other times Trump let it lie. I am counting on that not happening this time. As president he has tremendous power at his disposal.

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Forgotmyname 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is an active coup live and real time. Idk why we haven’t gone absolute martial law.

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boxmakingmachines 4 points ago +4 / -0

So, the important move is to build a court case for Trump Campaign to gain physical access to the ballots (before they destroy it).

This is actually a YUGGEEEEE part of the unique voter ID system (assuming it actually works as advertised......a big if for any government project). The ballots can basically be tracked in real time. If they were destroyed, DHS will know where and when it happened.

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repoman 15 points ago +15 / -0

True but Maricopa County decides Arizona so if that changes then 11 electoral votes directly to POTUS!

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BoatingAccident 11 points ago +12 / -1

Yep this. PA probably used a Chyna printing co.

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RARA2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Some whistle blower saw fake Chinese IDs. China knows Four more years of Trump is horrible for THEM.

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Hans_MacGruber 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well, this company is clearly handling the ballots for more than one state. He said in the video that they get .pdf files of each of their clients’ ballot specs before printing them, and that they printed 20 or 30 million ballots for this election. That’s probably at least 10 states. I remember reading that only 3 companies print the ballots for the entire country. Who knows how many states China handles the ballot printing for, though. 🤣

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Notablitheringidiot 20 points ago +21 / -1

AND EPSTEIN DIDN’T KILL HIMSELF

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Notablitheringidiot 8 points ago +8 / -0

Seems like the whole country might come down with a case of it if we don’t play our cards right.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fact checked by independent fact checkers: Mostly True!

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Richard_Friedman 20 points ago +21 / -1

Let’s go!

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RARA2 10 points ago +10 / -0

We need to take down these facists. They can rig their own elections..cuck bernie. But not us.

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james43552352345 13 points ago +13 / -0

This is where all the fraud is occurring - he who counts the ballots decides the election and the general public has very little resources of how the counting is actually done. Nothing is recorded. No cameras. Zero transparently.

I'm sorry but I've lost all faith in the integrity of our voting system. Yes, we should vote just the sake of it but don't expect your vote to actually do something.

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james43552352345 4 points ago +4 / -0

There are technologies that could make it publicly auditable - use blockchain technology and open source the code. You have data being uploaded to multiple blockchains and then it will allow for detection of inaccuracies. There is tech that can solve this! It is confusing at first but once you learn how it is done and how it can be implemented then you see that it is possible to have 100% legit, open and transparent elections that don't have any fraud in them! If there is fraud, you can spot it very easily.

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repoman 4 points ago +4 / -0

ikr, the outbound process looks smooth. What about when it comes back into the counting locations!

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sjriver 19 points ago +21 / -2

I didn't get that it was anything more than type of ballot on the barcode.

That's been my question all along. If "John Doe" is deceased and votes, is there a way to remove that particular ballot from the total? If not, how do you find it in the boxes and boxes of ballots?

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chlorophyll [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

A QR-Code style system of dots to uniquely index each ballot https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170607-why-printers-add-secret-tracking-dots

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SheikFromMozambake 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not with this system. This system clearly has separate printing and inserting processes. The voter isn't known to the printing system. At this facility, voter info appears to only be on the envelope.

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BigPanda71 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don’t think so, as it goes against the spirit of the secret ballot. Which is why the only remedy to any of this is either a new election in those states or not seating the electors from those states and letting the House decide.

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sperg 1 point ago +1 / -0

no the issue is vital statistics ie birth and death are not connected to voter database that is why we have to check voter databases for dead people

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WashingtonIsNext 17 points ago +18 / -1

Convince me DHS/CISA didn't walk through this building

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Prayingforus20 6 points ago +6 / -0

That is their flag hanging on the wall no?

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Bluntman 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yeah not sure how this helps seeing they mailed out a fuck tonne of ballots to everyone

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chlorophyll [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

It makes it realistic to reference who voted for what.

In a nightmare scenario: everyone who voted for Trump is on AOC's list

In Trump's scenario: they can know ballots got destroyed, received and never scanned, or filled out in place of a dead person

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Hektik 11 points ago +11 / -0

Don't use streamable they will censor.

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Datdevildawg 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah something is fucky. I have an android tv box, two weeks ago I had no issue watching Twitter videos or streamable links. Now none of that shit works.

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LiberalismIsTheVirus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fyi for twitter a lot of times you have to refresh the page or go back to it. I call it the first safeguard against conservative news since it only seems to be on them.

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wjgcn8yfyzl3 10 points ago +11 / -1

This man just said "secure" and "FTP" in the same sentence lmao

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FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe he meant SFTP.

Also, FTP over TLS seems to be a thing, although it's an unholy abomination just like FTP itself.

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kraut 9 points ago +10 / -1

I wanna believe, but does this matter?

I mean if the harvest legitimate ballots and the system sends out sooo many duplicate ballots?

Just explain it to me like im 5.

We know they were in a hurry to produce a lot of ballots fast because of benfords law and the difference between Presidential Candidate and Senate votes.

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aussie_maga 7 points ago +7 / -0

If by ballot harvesting you mean:

Person A did not want to vote. Democrat picked up their ballot and filled it out for them.

Then yes, I don't think this will help catch that.

I think the idea is to limit their options and hopefull they will be caught filling out a ballot for a deceased person, or does not live there, invalid voter, or multiple ballots per person.

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kraut 2 points ago +2 / -0

It still blows my mind that the US doesn't have voter identification.

I mean Australia has it, right?

In Germany you only get a ballot if you are registered in that specific state and if you register somewhere else it automatically updates your old record, as moved somewhere else. Also everyone has an ID.

The US System is ancient and it's designed for voter fraud.

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aussie_maga 2 points ago +2 / -0

AU does not have voter ID. But we have mandatory voting, which has its pros and cons.

Mandatory voting means voter rolls are kept up to date. It also means because everyone votes, it is easier to find duplicate, or invalid ones. In the US, you can have Joe Frazier voting for many elections and no one finds out.

The disadvantage I see on mandatory voting is that a lot of people just vote to avoid paying a fine. This means they just follow who MSM tells them to vote for.

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chlorophyll [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

They know how many ballots they send out, and the ballot is tied to the voter itself, if the machine scans ballots it would show it has multiple ballots from the same person potentially, or log that a ballot came from a voter that can be referenced in the population. They're not just pieces of paper, each one has a unique identity that is supposed to be tied to somebody real.

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kraut 2 points ago +2 / -0

And theses ballots are made this way in every state or at least the important ones?

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ShiterallyLaking 8 points ago +8 / -0

Cool video if nothing else! Anything that might shine light on any part of the process at play here is useful, but as I understand it, the problem is the ballot counters themselves, not so much the ballots --- though I'm certain there are many bogus pieces of paper out there.

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chlorophyll [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

The identity of the ballot can be documented as having reached the polling place but never counted if there are enough computers looking at them, counting them.

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Prayingforus20 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is only so many ballots in circulation.

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ShiterallyLaking 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah yea, that's a good point. There are bound to be tons of discrepancies concerning those figures given the literally unbelievable "record" voter registration and turnout in some places.

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kek_mate 1 point ago +1 / -0

it'd be a normal picture. the barcode looks to be on the envelope. The ( guessing here ) encrypted and hidden watermark on the ballot itself looks to require some special wavelength of light to show up, and even then it's over the entire ballot.

My guess is the encrypted key on the ballot identifies the specific voter it was meant for. to have something less secure identify the exact voter would be a privacy concern.

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repoman 7 points ago +7 / -0

Notice paper is already supplied to them. Also he states they can fold 150k to 200k ballots every hour. How long was the vote stop for in PA, MI, GA, and WI?

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LiberalismIsTheVirus 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think the votes came in around 4-5am with the stop around 1:30 or even earlier. I think Trump spoke around 2:15 just as a time reference.

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chlorophyll [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

Not only that, if the ballot is uniquely tied to a human identity then it changes the game in terms of voter integrity... Doris who has been dead for 5 years should never have sent back in her ballot, and we can know which vote belonged to her.

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OllyOlly 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

No, none of this shit matters retards. They didn't manufacture ballots. They STOLE LEGITIMATE ONES NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW ABOUT AND FILLED THEM OUT FOR BIDEN.

They also TOSSED TRUMP BALLOTS and can just claim they never got them / invalid / oops we shredded those spoiled ones / etc.

This is such qanon hopeful bullshit by people who misunderstand how they cheated this election.

How many people voted? 130mil or so? How many people live in the country? 300? 330+?

That leaves 200 million people who didn't give enough of a shit to vote and will never bother following up on it. A whole fuckload of these people got mass mail in ballots.

That's a LOT of opportunity to steal somebody's vote who will never know, if you only need a couple hundred thousand to put you over the edge.

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chlorophyll [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You only know it's a Trump ballot once it's at the polling place IE when it's gone through postal service. "So you received the ballot but it didn't get counted?"

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OllyOlly 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the literal definition of grasping at straws.

If they inserted 100,000 or 200,000 or however many legitimate ballots from people who will never even realize they "voted" .. and Trump doesn't have concrete evidence of this shit, it's game over.

I hope he does, I hope he drops some bombshells, but it's seeming less likely every day.

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letrain 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

This too. I know people that didn't vote at all and just tossed their mail in ballot in the garbage. Some even filled out local and left president unfilled.... This system is shit. And correct without hard evidence someone else filled in for them and sent in the wouldn't be thrown out. However if the non-signature check is true, that should be evidence. Also pa violated law and a direct order to obey that law from scotus, when it came to letting people vote after 8pm. And then the machine voting errors. It'll be damn close. Best hope is tie, and congress votes, or republican legislatures send their own electors. They would have a legitimate excuse if there is enough skepticism over fraud or "software failure/hack" to represent their districts and follow the law and constitution.

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DJTisGOD88 6 points ago +10 / -4

from jim stone's website...APPARENTLY TRUE: ALL FEDERAL ELECTION BALLOTS WATERMARKED TO REVEAL FRAUD. If you want to steal an election, you may have a problem: All ballots accounted for. So let's say you threw away Bob for Trump's ballot and decided to turn it into a Bob for Biden vote. Well, you need a new ballot for that, and if you take one from the official system, it will get noticed. So you have to print that yourself. Easily done. According to a whistleblower, one precinct said they had to stop "because they ran out of ink". AAAAND, they also ran out of watermarks, OOPS, I mean, they never had ANY. Times Ditto, ditto, ditto.

So that apparently is a BIG PROBLEM now, because there are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of Biden votes that don't have a watermark.

The MSM was quick to say "That's a hair brained conspiracy theory". Only, OOPS, it's not. To view the watermark, you have to have a 10X jeweler's loupe, and a light source that includes 640 nanometers. The mark, which is super faint in the least visible part of the red spectrum, is totally impossible to spot without a loupe, and to find it even with a loupe you have to know where it is because it is so faint and so tiny. The lady who shot this video only noticed the black dots when the actual print of the watermark was also right there. And it's real cute. SO CUTE, THAT IF THIS IS MORE THAN "APPARENTLY" TRUE, THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT GOES HARD RED IN ALL 50 STATES INCLUDING VERMONT AND CALIFORNIA. California got word of this AFTER they threw out over 7 million ballots for Trump, that were certified as having been cast. You know, THAT SONOMA DUMPSTER THING I covered in depth. Rumor has it that AFTER throwing away the legit Trump ballots and filling them in on fake ballots, they found out about the watermark and then threw away the fake ballots too and now they are over 7 million ballots short.

THIS IS (APPARENTLY) NOT A BLUFF, SEE THIS VIDEO (which I will obviously serve from here because it WILL be deleted despite the fact that deleting it won't matter. HERE IS THE BACK STORY:

SO THE BIG QUESTION NOW: IS THIS MORE THAN APPARENTLY TRUE??? Hopefully there is more than hope.

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sully 9 points ago +9 / -0

Wait till you find out what color 640mn is.

😎

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esheki808 1 point ago +1 / -0

If he did that on purpose my gawd lol the memes... 🤤

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Datdevildawg 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just checked his website and it says watermark story removed for being a hoax.

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Lindarichmond 6 points ago +7 / -1

That’s good news and all on the production side, but is this even being checked on the counting side?

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chlorophyll [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

The scantron style computers should be able to keep track of things like this pretty easily, and thankfully Trump has Rudy Giuliani for cybersecurity advisor https://web.archive.org/web/20200920114411/https://www.complianceweek.com/cyber-security/bill-proposes-national-cyber-security-czar/29126.article

And cybersecurity is part of the space force, something so new it can't have swamp roots in it https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/09/04/trump-administration-launches-first-cybersecurity-principles-space-technologies

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letrain 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hhhmmm... Space force created... Cyber security implemented. Trump appoints first people to it... 4d?

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Gumnut 1 point ago +1 / -0

We need ‘5D interdimensional backgammon’ at this stage, as someone here pointed out

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NoCoupForYou 5 points ago +5 / -0

What state is this for? If it isn't for PA, WI, MI, GA it doesn't help.

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Fnordinand 3 points ago +3 / -0

He mentioned Maricopa County, so Arizona at least.

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NYRepublican72 2 points ago +2 / -0

AZ

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Prayingforus20 2 points ago +2 / -0

National requirements.

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ThatsGold 4 points ago +4 / -0

UH OH

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SecurityBlanket 3 points ago +3 / -0

"The counties will then . . . tabulate those votes all to see who wins each election."

Oh, my sweet, summer child.

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GodWins1 3 points ago +4 / -1

Hammer and scorecard in action caught on CNN:

https://media.8kun.top/file_store/dffb0fd155a0b71762e5a69f57d395d5fb2a5cdd300887d8d87fae9417bd9235.mp4

Spread this. Sorry for spam mods.

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kek_mate 1 point ago +1 / -0

fyi that clip is from this hour long video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be

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RogueLeaderX 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remain rather dubious about this. It seems like safeguards are virtually non-existent in US Elections.

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GoldwaterVoter 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sorry, I don't think what he said is what your headline says.

Each individual barcode is for a unique STYLE or PRECINCT, where the unique combination of candidates and/or propositions and questions makes it different from the ballot style from adjoining precincts with different candidates and/or propositions.

So all voters in a certain precinct will have the same barcode.

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OrangeManOffical 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are correct it doesn't mean what the headline says. The style is at best a precinct level mark as you pointed out. It would be a gross violation of the anonymity in our elections if you could tie the ballot back to a person like that which is why only the envelope is signed and not the ballot. The validation of authenticity is supposed to be done before the envelope is opened, Once the ballot is removed and separated from the envelope there is no longer any way to tie the ballot to a specific voter and no way to differentiate a forgery from an authentic ballot. Well there might be if you can prove the paper stock is wrong or the ink type used is wrong but there is zero chance anyone is going to go to that level of analysis of the ballots and even if they did it would never be completed by the safe harbor deadline.

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OrangeManOffical 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code so you maybe able to identify what printer a document came from and if ballots were scanned or printer to create duplicates you might be able to tell that way. Again a long shot I wouldn't hold my breath for because of the amount of time it would take to manually inspect the ballots. More realistically after the election is settled it might be shown that fraud did in fact occur but they still would not over turn the results. They didn't in 2000 when it was eventually shown the FL count was incorrect and Gore actually won. There is still a path to a Trump victory but it involves a house vote because the election cannot be certified, To my knowledge this has never happened before but if someone know better then me please let me know.

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GoldwaterVoter 2 points ago +2 / -0

And so a very misleading headline gets stickied and top billing???

False rumors/info, intentional or not, are diverting our efforts, unfortunately.

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BoilingEnema 1 point ago +1 / -0

Watch farther into the video.

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GoldwaterVoter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Didn't see/hear anything in entire video that justifies the headline. Can you be more specific?

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BoilingEnema 1 point ago +1 / -0

A bit after he mentioned the precinct marking he mentioned individual codes for specific ballots, though it was unclear if it was the ballot or envelope that was marked.

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GoldwaterVoter 1 point ago +1 / -0

I still understand that the only thing that is unique is the ballot style, his example is "123".

I note this post is no longer stickied as number 1.

"And so to bed", as Samuel Pepys said..

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AAPL 2 points ago +2 / -0

He claims these ballots are just like money... why did we trust the USPS with these, we never mail cash, and are told to not mail cash....

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SheikFromMozambake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wildly misleading title. The video says the voter is identified on the envelope, not on the ballot. The video also appears to be specific to Arizona elections, although many other states could use their services.

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Yeow 2 points ago +2 / -0

wHorellywood, Commiefornia:

I still have my "mail in ballot."

(I voted one day early.)

They mailed them to us whether we wanted them or not.

I see on the back of each page, lower left corner, there is

  • a QR code

  • a pink lily illustration (kinda like a watermark?)

  • Ballot Style code

  • Serial #

  • Precinct #

I do not know what any of this means.

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swanzinator 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hmmm. Well that serial# could be key to the notion that there’s a unique identifier.

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Yeow 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's what I was thinking...

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Memeite 2 points ago +2 / -0

So as someone who spent years working in systems that are large and complex as this two things spring out to me.

1 how is the warehouse that clean.

2 Trump will know how many ballots are sent and returned.

simply put each ballot will have a small QR code that you saw at the top that is being monitored checked and managed, this unique identifier is unique to the individual he requested the ballot. This ballot is then sent through a chain of custody through the postal system the ups, postal systems have a unique way of managing each chain in the process because of lost mail, the same way you can track a parcel at every single point of it's journey is the same way you can track a ballot every single point in it's journey. as for all male Cisco systems every single point of movement is trapped within a system that you can read on on your phone and often they're taking photos with at this point to. As for mail this also works with return mail.

so these numbers will be cross-referenced with the original numbers sent out to know how many ballots were returned

Potential Issues:

this particular system does not look like it has any way of verifying in-person election Day results. I imagine this is what that special paper looks like or there's some other way to verify on election Day.

this is not going to tell you who voted it's only going to tell you which party affiliate has voted. I see if a Republican has submitted their form back they may not have voted for Trump but it would be assumed they did.

this also not do work for any data sanitisation meaning this won't account for dead people voting, cats voting or anyone else is not eligible to vote.

Benifits: This should show if there are any disenfranchise voters people who have had their votes thrown out.

Even if this is the only security that Trump was put in place which I would be shocked with, this is still significant in reducing the amount of fraud.

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knnbccb 2 points ago +2 / -0

I posted a picture which is a screenshot of the live coverage of the election. A poll worker in Georgia was opening an envelope of mail-in ballots, the courier company was SF Express, a Chinese courier company.

Any Georgia residents mailed their mail-in ballots with SF Express?

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Tomboy_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Shit Fuck Express?

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knnbccb 1 point ago +1 / -0

'Shun Feng' Express.

Picture

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FarmerJon1066 2 points ago +2 / -0

They should update the operating system @3:14... that is running Windows 7 OS in classic mode...which has hit end of life and end of support unless... that is win 7 enterprise, which I doubt being on a machine.

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my_pw_is_password 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok so here’s the deal:

The Democrats have most likely “harvested” plenty mail-in ballots of people on voter rolls that:

  • Had no interest in voting
  • Moved state
  • Were actually deceased
  • Had their ballots intercepted

They also likely destroy, invalid (likely) Trump ballots. And interfered with election day voters ability to vote (deceptively having them cast provisional ballots).

Doing all that explains a lot of the votes for Biden, but it was not enough to win. They realized this before and on election day. But their backup plan was to abuse software hacks glitches in voting machines to slightly alter votes overnight.

I don’t think we’ll find many completely invalid votes in a recount. I think it’s more likely that a legit recount will discover software fraud, in the voting tabulation machines.

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Marshall 2 points ago +3 / -1 (edited)

If this is true, then it helps ONE form of cheating. I do not doubt it happens. But the DEMONkkkRATS are using every technique in the book.

Fortunately, all we have to do is find enough of the cheat to get the result right.

Broad Categories of Cheating

Fake Ballots

Stolen Ballots

Destroyed valid ballots

Accepted Real Ballots cast illegally by ineligible voters

Ballots altered by the poll workers

Counting errors and manipulation - Software Theft

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Aoikaze2000 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is stupidly easy for a man-in-the-middle attack.

There's absolutely no guarantee that the ballot will make it to the other end securely.

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ALargeBovine 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is there any law that allows for an audit? I think there are only laws to allow for recounts within certain conditions

If the election is to be audited it will require the state to initiate that action. From what I understand, the states in question are Democrat run with R legislatures, who can't do much in terms of operations.

Bottom line even if true what will be done about it?

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gimmeabreak 1 point ago +1 / -0

Such an amazing amount of waste, and this is all for one single county. Imagine the amount of paper, time, ink, money, that goes into producing ballots for all 3,143 counties nationwide. There has to be a better way.

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buddhist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Compared to newspapers the resources needed should be very small though.

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redshortz44 1 point ago +1 / -0

These are for absentee ballots...so the person registers to vote and requests a ballot, the county election clerk counts how many requests are made and then sends that number to the printer who prints them. They include a barcode to keep track of what number it is and what county. Then they give it to USPS who mails it to the voter who fills it out and mails it to the county. The county opens everything and verifies that it is filled out correctly. Then they keep a tally of what ballot barcode it was and how they voted. Then they mail the ballot back to these people who photograph it and store it?

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

wherever there is fuckery to be had, you can be sure some dem or their spouse
owns it and manipulates and pays others to look the other way.

im guessing this time around, it was cheap and easy cus so many had TDS

further, you are seeing officials in swing states just basically say 'fuck your rules'

then what?

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chopz 1 point ago +1 / -0

I listened to that for 45 seconds and now I am left wondering how any single fucking person in government ever allowed for this shit to enter our election system.

Let's seeee..... We have a county pop of 238,000... "I need 700,000 of ballot style 123 please" fills out 462,000 for Biden only with no senators or House on it matched up with dead people from the late 1800's

vote machines go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Tomboy_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

An FTP site

Lol so secure

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wampdog29 1 point ago +1 / -0

So.... this is only for mail-in and absentee ballots??? Because if this is supposed to be in-person ballots too, this isn't what they look like in PA.

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OutcastSeal 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once re-elected, Trump will open up a nationwide election fraud case that will last years and put thousands behind bars.

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ThaDtothaOtothaN 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was just about to post this same video and here it is a sticky already!

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JohnCalhoun 1 point ago +1 / -0

What about overseas voters? I filled out my ballot online, then I got sent a pdf file which I then uploaded to a secure portal. I'm guessing that's a different process.

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Elvathelion 1 point ago +1 / -0

So, these questions could potentially be answerable?

  • 1-Election + D party officials filled out many thousands of blank ballots?
  • 2-Election + D party officials removed and destroyed 'legal' ballots?
  • 3-Election + D party officials deliberately organized non-citizen voting?
  • 4-Election + D party officials in [XX] locations across the US [under lock & key] stored many thousands of 'blank' ballots for purposes of 'altering the vote total'?
  • Who safeguards 'blank' ballots?
  • Who issues 'blank' ballots?
  • Who controls 'blank' ballots?
  • How many 'blank' ballots are generated vs. total county pop?
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RARA2 1 point ago +1 / -0

We will not rest for you PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD TRUMP.