The left doesn't give a single fuck about the environment or any of their other "causes". They simply want huge lumps of money allocated and made available for their pilfering, plus piece by piece build up a global government of themselves with internationally entangling treaties.
This. I'm concerned about the environment and believe we should reduce carbon emissions, but most Democrat "solutions" are just greenwashed socialism. You cannot be lax on immigration and consider yourself an environmentalist, the US has the biggest ecological footprint in the world per capita and every immigrant we add strangles the environment a little more.
There are free market and nationalist ways of fixing the environment. Tax credits for carbon reduction and nuclear plants, close down the border, bring industry home and tariff foreign food sources. Healthy foods can be grown all across the states, no need to import avocados from third world shitholes. There's plenty we can do without implementing retarded socialist policies.
It's not a pollutant, it's a greenhouse gas which is a natural part of our atmosphere. But shift the balance and the climate changes. It's going to change with or without us but we can at least stop accelerating it.
It's really not a lie, man, and the left isn't winning me over because I'm still not voting for them. The Overton window is shifted more toward environmentalism but that's not a left wing thing.
I'd have to dig up all the sources again, but it's fairly well researched at this point. Historical trends show the increases in CO2 are a result of temperatures rising, not what causes temperatures to rise. That's why the propaganda always says "during periods of high CO2, temperatures were higher" because that focuses on after they've both risen while ignoring that temperatures rise and then CO2 rises.
In fact, high enough CO2 is what triggers the planet to go from heating to cooling. How could it also be what causes heating?
Historical trends show the increases in CO2 are a result of temperatures rising, not what causes temperatures to rise.
Right but how do the trends show that? Do temperatures increase first, then CO2? What's the methodology?
In fact, high enough CO2 is what triggers the planet to go from heating to cooling. How could it also be what causes heating?
AFAIK CO2 and other greenhouse gasses increase temperatures to the point water vapor (which is overall the biggest contributor to the greenhouse effect) leaves the atmosphere through hydrodynamic escape, which then results in cooling at the cost of less water on the planet. Of course we have plenty of water, but the problem is this not only takes a long time to happen but the effects on the earth's biomes in the meantime are severe. Deserts expand, habitats are lost, extinctions happen, the ice caps melt which alone causes tons of problems.
We'd be better off transitioning to nuclear power and slowly - not in 5 years or whatever Biden says, but over decades - phase out fossil fuels and incentivize environmentalism in various industries through tax credits. Environmentalism isn't a cultural marxist thing or whatever but so long as the right does nothing about it the left can weaponize it and turn it into a marxist thing. If we become more eco-friendly it'd be a huge blow to the Dems.
It's a HIGHLY FRINGE greenhouse gas that only absorbs a miniscule portion of the light spectrum, meaning its effect tops out quickly and has huge diminishing returns.
You simply have no idea of what you are talking about. The whole global warming scam is based on a 'TIPPING POINT' where CO2 causing a little rise in temp creates more water vapor, which is an ACTUAL major greenhouse gas.
Co2 contributes up to 26% of the total greenhouse effect despite having a concentration of only 400 ppm in the atmosphere. It's concentration is so small there's plenty of returns left for it to give. It will easily increase the temp of the earth's surface a few degrees over the coming years which is a major problem. Every degree melts the ice caps a little more which releases even more CO2 plus methane which is an even worse greenhouse gas in addition to a whole other host of issues.
You are correct that water vapor accounts for the majority of the greenhouse effect, but the balance is delicate enough that atmospheric carbon can easily tip the scales toward disaster. Not in 20 years or whatever the fearmongering shitlibs are saying, but it'll be a problem eventually. And as I said, this will all happen eventually anyway, but we can stop accelerating it. We need to buy time for our descendents to figure out a more permanent solution.
Got any good links? I will say climate change is the flimsiest aspect of environmentalism, or at the very least the most exaggerated and abused. Luckily GEOTUS is doing a great job tackling other forms of pollution and protecting our great national parks! 🇺🇸
bring industry home and tariff foreign food sources.
This is a huge one everybody ignores. Pollution is a GLOBAL problem. By exporting all of our industry all we've accomplished is to completely subvert any sort of environmental laws we have, that these leftists claim to care about. Domestic industry is subject to incredibly strict regulations with regards to pollution, is Chinese industry? Fuck no. The most environmental course of action is to bring all industry back home so that we can be sure everything is done in an environmentally sound manner.
The left doesn't give a shit about any of the things they prop up as "values". It's all about appearing to be a virtuous person. Which is why they blindly support so many orwellian programs that sound benevolent at the surface level, then are nothing but siphoning tax payer money to whichever lucky organizations when you actually read the bill. It's also why these values disappear in an instant when faced with a demographic they supposedly support who disagrees with them. Look at the amount of slut shaming towards Ivanka for having been a model, while propping up Stormy Daniels, a vapid literal prostitute, as a hero. Don't even get me started with how they treat black Americans. Or the fact that none of their presidents supported gay marriage until well after most Americans did, let alone Donald Trump.
The idea is to get everything made in 3rd world countries. We scream about the environment here, so we can get solar fells, lithium batteries, plastic etc made in other countries for low labor costs to pad the pockets of the small group of elite. What it does is squeeze the middle, pushing more to the bottom than to the top, which in turn leads to more tepid promises of guaranteed minimums from the government to get you dependent.
Thats not delusional, that's called creation of a serf class in the modern era. Have the wrong opinions, amd maybe your "free" medical care stops. Maybe that "universal income " ain't so universal. Maybe your one bedroom apartment you hole up in that's given as "guaranteed housing " isn't so guaranteed.
The population is at an iq level now where they will happily give up the chance if success for possible mediocrity.
Thank you. I try to tell people. The great reset is to destroy the middle class and get them dependent on the gov gibs,. Look at england and italy. Covid will not go away with Biden. It's national lockdown day 1 to destroy the economy
Joe isn't taking anythinf. It's about to go down in supreme court. One of our justices is Clarence Thomas. He's about to get payback on Biden from 1991. Back when Biden wasn't pretending not to be Racist, He all but hung his client and him. What we really need to worry about is the riots of people that thought they had a legit Biden presidency stolen and replaced with Trump's god like smile. It's going to be the funniest and most messy occurance in late times
They want not just to get their hands on the money, but also to weaken traditional culture and true scientific institutions and ideas. Throw mankind down the rat-hole, and people into enslavement.
Now, when they say "developed nations" they mean the US, right? We already know from literally every other international agreement how much of the costs other countries pay, which is to say, none.
So this is a globalist-socialist scam. Probably gives top politicians leverage over decisions, thus giving potential for MORE corrupt, Bidenish nepotistic money raking schemes.
retarded? its rather a clever way to create basically a new currency via carbon tax or cap and trade. and the already wealthy elite will manage it, siphoning off money while pretending its for the good of the environment.
dinesh did a video about what obama believes and it's basically this. It's global socialism. Punish the successful countries to try to benefit poor countries. So they are against drilling for oil in the us, but other countries? totally fine.
The left doesn't give a single fuck about the environment or any of their other "causes". They simply want huge lumps of money allocated and made available for their pilfering, plus piece by piece build up a global government of themselves with internationally entangling treaties.
Globalism means everyone's country gets plundered equally.
As a Christian I’m not too scared of globalism or even a world government. It means end times are coming and we bout to be up off this earthly place.
Not that I would actively advocate for it, just keeping my head straight.
USA table pays the dinner tabs for the whole No Smoking room, as China & India tables smoke cigars and get fatter. Thanks, but no thanks.
This. I'm concerned about the environment and believe we should reduce carbon emissions, but most Democrat "solutions" are just greenwashed socialism. You cannot be lax on immigration and consider yourself an environmentalist, the US has the biggest ecological footprint in the world per capita and every immigrant we add strangles the environment a little more.
There are free market and nationalist ways of fixing the environment. Tax credits for carbon reduction and nuclear plants, close down the border, bring industry home and tariff foreign food sources. Healthy foods can be grown all across the states, no need to import avocados from third world shitholes. There's plenty we can do without implementing retarded socialist policies.
This is why the left wins in the end. You've bought the big lie: That CO2 is a pollutant.
They repeat it over and over. And you believe it.
It's not a pollutant, it's a greenhouse gas which is a natural part of our atmosphere. But shift the balance and the climate changes. It's going to change with or without us but we can at least stop accelerating it.
It's really not a lie, man, and the left isn't winning me over because I'm still not voting for them. The Overton window is shifted more toward environmentalism but that's not a left wing thing.
Higher CO2 is a byproduct of increased temperatures, not a cause. That's the part they won't tell you.
How did you come to that conclusion, pede?
I'd have to dig up all the sources again, but it's fairly well researched at this point. Historical trends show the increases in CO2 are a result of temperatures rising, not what causes temperatures to rise. That's why the propaganda always says "during periods of high CO2, temperatures were higher" because that focuses on after they've both risen while ignoring that temperatures rise and then CO2 rises.
In fact, high enough CO2 is what triggers the planet to go from heating to cooling. How could it also be what causes heating?
Right but how do the trends show that? Do temperatures increase first, then CO2? What's the methodology?
AFAIK CO2 and other greenhouse gasses increase temperatures to the point water vapor (which is overall the biggest contributor to the greenhouse effect) leaves the atmosphere through hydrodynamic escape, which then results in cooling at the cost of less water on the planet. Of course we have plenty of water, but the problem is this not only takes a long time to happen but the effects on the earth's biomes in the meantime are severe. Deserts expand, habitats are lost, extinctions happen, the ice caps melt which alone causes tons of problems.
We'd be better off transitioning to nuclear power and slowly - not in 5 years or whatever Biden says, but over decades - phase out fossil fuels and incentivize environmentalism in various industries through tax credits. Environmentalism isn't a cultural marxist thing or whatever but so long as the right does nothing about it the left can weaponize it and turn it into a marxist thing. If we become more eco-friendly it'd be a huge blow to the Dems.
It's a HIGHLY FRINGE greenhouse gas that only absorbs a miniscule portion of the light spectrum, meaning its effect tops out quickly and has huge diminishing returns.
You simply have no idea of what you are talking about. The whole global warming scam is based on a 'TIPPING POINT' where CO2 causing a little rise in temp creates more water vapor, which is an ACTUAL major greenhouse gas.
Co2 contributes up to 26% of the total greenhouse effect despite having a concentration of only 400 ppm in the atmosphere. It's concentration is so small there's plenty of returns left for it to give. It will easily increase the temp of the earth's surface a few degrees over the coming years which is a major problem. Every degree melts the ice caps a little more which releases even more CO2 plus methane which is an even worse greenhouse gas in addition to a whole other host of issues.
You are correct that water vapor accounts for the majority of the greenhouse effect, but the balance is delicate enough that atmospheric carbon can easily tip the scales toward disaster. Not in 20 years or whatever the fearmongering shitlibs are saying, but it'll be a problem eventually. And as I said, this will all happen eventually anyway, but we can stop accelerating it. We need to buy time for our descendents to figure out a more permanent solution.
Got any good links? I will say climate change is the flimsiest aspect of environmentalism, or at the very least the most exaggerated and abused. Luckily GEOTUS is doing a great job tackling other forms of pollution and protecting our great national parks! 🇺🇸
Will take a look, thanks pede
This is a huge one everybody ignores. Pollution is a GLOBAL problem. By exporting all of our industry all we've accomplished is to completely subvert any sort of environmental laws we have, that these leftists claim to care about. Domestic industry is subject to incredibly strict regulations with regards to pollution, is Chinese industry? Fuck no. The most environmental course of action is to bring all industry back home so that we can be sure everything is done in an environmentally sound manner.
The left doesn't give a shit about any of the things they prop up as "values". It's all about appearing to be a virtuous person. Which is why they blindly support so many orwellian programs that sound benevolent at the surface level, then are nothing but siphoning tax payer money to whichever lucky organizations when you actually read the bill. It's also why these values disappear in an instant when faced with a demographic they supposedly support who disagrees with them. Look at the amount of slut shaming towards Ivanka for having been a model, while propping up Stormy Daniels, a vapid literal prostitute, as a hero. Don't even get me started with how they treat black Americans. Or the fact that none of their presidents supported gay marriage until well after most Americans did, let alone Donald Trump.
the leftist NGOs prevent projects being built in the west and force them to move to corrupt shitholes with 0 regulations
Yep. The Left love giving money to other countries because they get kickbacks to pad their own back accounts.
Plus I think China and India the two biggest polluters are not bound to restrictions.
They are actually able to INCREASE their pollution.
The idea is to get everything made in 3rd world countries. We scream about the environment here, so we can get solar fells, lithium batteries, plastic etc made in other countries for low labor costs to pad the pockets of the small group of elite. What it does is squeeze the middle, pushing more to the bottom than to the top, which in turn leads to more tepid promises of guaranteed minimums from the government to get you dependent.
Thats not delusional, that's called creation of a serf class in the modern era. Have the wrong opinions, amd maybe your "free" medical care stops. Maybe that "universal income " ain't so universal. Maybe your one bedroom apartment you hole up in that's given as "guaranteed housing " isn't so guaranteed.
The population is at an iq level now where they will happily give up the chance if success for possible mediocrity.
and who makes the deals in these countries? Hunter Biden and co.
Thank you. I try to tell people. The great reset is to destroy the middle class and get them dependent on the gov gibs,. Look at england and italy. Covid will not go away with Biden. It's national lockdown day 1 to destroy the economy
Damn globalists and their transfers of wealth to the top.
Good thing we don’t have to worry about that because he’ll never be a sitting President!
joe aint doing jack because he will be in his basement on 21 Jan 2021
Tax protests and jury nullification. There’s a short term solution.
This is a pretty accurate summary.
That's some ultimate "bottom text" energy right there!
Joe isn't taking anythinf. It's about to go down in supreme court. One of our justices is Clarence Thomas. He's about to get payback on Biden from 1991. Back when Biden wasn't pretending not to be Racist, He all but hung his client and him. What we really need to worry about is the riots of people that thought they had a legit Biden presidency stolen and replaced with Trump's god like smile. It's going to be the funniest and most messy occurance in late times
They neglected to mention that motherfucking CHINA is considered a "developing nation" according to the deal.
Yep, this right here.
Know who benefits the most from us being in the paris accords? China.
Its just a money laundering scheme so China can get money to pay off the politicians voting on the accord.
They also want to reinstate the ACA mandate meaning people without insurance pay a fine to not have bad insurance.
I'm sure China being classified as a "developing nation" has nothing to do with this either. lol!
I agree with all of this, the fact that you didn't pay microsoft for windows makes me agree even more. Fuck Bill Gates
Hes trying to justify all the tax increases
They want not just to get their hands on the money, but also to weaken traditional culture and true scientific institutions and ideas. Throw mankind down the rat-hole, and people into enslavement.
The Paris accord is shit, but we should move to renewable energy. That way we get high-torque electric cars and can tell OPEC to shove it.
Now, when they say "developed nations" they mean the US, right? We already know from literally every other international agreement how much of the costs other countries pay, which is to say, none.
So this is a globalist-socialist scam. Probably gives top politicians leverage over decisions, thus giving potential for MORE corrupt, Bidenish nepotistic money raking schemes.
Who cares? He's not gonna be president so it's not a concern.
retarded? its rather a clever way to create basically a new currency via carbon tax or cap and trade. and the already wealthy elite will manage it, siphoning off money while pretending its for the good of the environment.
If Joe was to steal this election I and 70+ million voters will stop paying taxes.
It will be hard to do any filing of any kind when we are so busy rounding up communists.
The best part: the Accord defines China as a “developing nation.”
dinesh did a video about what obama believes and it's basically this. It's global socialism. Punish the successful countries to try to benefit poor countries. So they are against drilling for oil in the us, but other countries? totally fine.
It's so ppl like Hunter can siphon millions away from the developing nations.
It's global socialism.
I was for it until I learned it was just a money grab.