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rupok2 13 points ago +13 / -0

its not about sex its about personal responsibility. They dont want that. Me and my wife have sex all the time and we dont want a kid yet.

these people cant even take the pill everyday or have their partner wear a condom so they dont have to murder their own baby.

Hell even if u had sex without any protection there is still the after pill.

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GinoOdjick2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. Use contraception. Make birth control over the counter and cheap. Here in Canada it is under $10 a month.

Life starts at conception so prevent conception. It's not rocket science.

What kind of no pussy getting motherfucker advocates abstinence?!

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OliverWillis 10 points ago +10 / -0

AND DUDES. Dudes want to get laid and fuck women with zero consequence. Womanizing degenerates.

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farstriderr [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

.5% were because of rape, too low to even list.

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aparition42 5 points ago +5 / -0

Real answer to every case, "Both I and the child's father have been convinced by advertising/propaganda companies that we are incapable of having a mature relationship and raising a child to the point that we are desperately afraid of facing real adulthood."

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Verrerogo 3 points ago +3 / -0

ONE IN FOUR would keep the baby if the MONEY were there.

Yes, that's only one in four.

But you could get yourself a lot of babies out of that, if you just had the brains to organize a way to funnel the first year's supplies to this specific woman.

If it is a first baby, the expense is daunting: crib, diapers, maybe formula if breast feeding doesn't go well before the kid reaches the age of solid food, which takes ten months, the baby clothes which cost the earth, the carriage, or how are you going to take the kid out of the house. The carrier, if you can handle a seven pound weight around your neck.

This stuff ADDS UP.

Concentrate on what you CAN do and not on what is beyond your reach.

That is quite apart from medical expenses. That is another matter. But simply paying for diapers is a big deal.

OK, your ancestors lay their infants in a dresser drawer. Fine. OK, your ancestors hired a wet nurse among the peasantry. That's not going on now. OK, your ancestors sewed the baby clothes with their hands, or had the maids do that. That's not going on now. OK, your ancestors used cloth diapers. That is exactly the same expense and environmental impact as disposable diapers. The maids helped in the past. Or grandma. Or the unmarried sisters who lives with you. That's not going on now.

No woman should have to abort merely for money reasons. And that seems to be all it is, 23% of the time, from what you say above.

As for sex, are you talking to yourself? Who do you think she is having sex with? You.

And here is some more news: she had sex because she wanted a baby. It is perfectly normal for any living organism to want to reproduce. They all have sex drives, from the bunnies to the koala bears. People also.

No, it's not all eros. Of course she wants to go the whole way and reproduce. So do you.

So figure out a way to help the 23% go through with it.

As for the others, I have no ideas. Let us concentrate on what is cooking: a pregnancy somewhere is gestating, and there is no money. That woman is not having a nice day. Can you help? She's peeing a lot and her neck is getting thicker and this is not a drill. Somebody is on the way. Can you help? Start an organization and get funding for fully supplying all first-year baby supplies. Clothes, crib, formula, stroller, everything. You WILL save lives.

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jennyfrutex 3 points ago +3 / -0

Absolutely none of these reasons address the pro-life argument that abortion destroys human life.

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wholeonions 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where's the option that reads "I don't want to stop getting wasted and banging chads every weekend, so fuck this kid."

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ShyOne 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't get the whole, abort the baby because you can't afford it or don't want it. Why not give it up for adoption?

My grandparents were friends with this old couple, they only had one child that died at birth, and they refused to talk about it. One or two years ago, the man died, and the woman eventually died a few months later. One month after their death, my grandmother got a knock at the door. It turns out that the dead child was actually given up for adoption, and she was looking for her biological parents.

What actually happened was the man and the woman was poor, and they struggled to even feed themselves. Families on both sides deeply hated the fact they were even together because the two families hated each other. So they were given no help and were forced to give the baby up for adoption to ensure she had a better life.

Eventually, they became quite wealthy ranchers, but they never had another kid because of the pain they knowingly gave their child away. They refused to talk about their child, other than dying from stillbirth.

It's really heartbreaking knowing, she could have met at least one of her parents if she was a month faster.

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Verrerogo 2 points ago +2 / -0

In this very comment you document what it does to people to give a child up for adoption. Yet you advocate it.

This is odd of you.

It SHREDS them, ok? Perhaps sometimes it only shreds the mother. But the shred is there. Shred.

"Oh just give the critter up for adoption, what's your problem?" is not that great an idea. I do know it works sometimes. But it's not like, "oh come on, do the obvious logical, simple, thing, you big crybaby."

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ShyOne 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm just saying between Aborting and giving them up, isn't it better to give the kid a chance. These people don't want the kid, so they kill it, why not just give it up.

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Verrerogo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can only speculate that there is less agony in aborting because they never held the kid in their arms.

You have perhaps examined the money difference, in the cost of an abortion, versus the cost of giving birth?????????

Abortion is a few hundred bucks, if even that much, and birth is ... ten thousand dollars? OK?

I am not sure of those figures, but it's like that.

Abortion has all the drama: sex, death, relationship problems, morality questions.

But it is the END point: what comes before is: why aren't these people married if they like each other enough to lie down next to each other? Why can't they have a family? Why do they so desperately need her income? Are they spending their money on amusements when they could spend their money more intelligently and have a life? Why aren't their four parents involved? Because there is failure at all those nodal points.

But that's boring. Abortion is just so dramatic. But we never address the questions that lead up to it. Meanwhile every other nation and human group is busy being normal and having children, while we fuss about the details, and our cradles stay empty.

The invisible abortion is the children who never got conceived AT ALL. No pregnancy in the first place. Nice and clean.

What happened to your ability to be a normal mammal and reproduce? Who took you to the vet to be fixed? That's upstream from abortion. Abortion is the end. What happened before that?

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Verrerogo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Contraception IS available on every street corner. On campuses, for free. On Amazon, nine cents for a condom, bought in bulk. In every drugstore. All over. It IS available. But people's bodies want children. They WANT TO GET PREGNANT, both of them. The man and the woman both. This is utterly normal.

Only three weeks later, in the cold light of day, does it look different to them.

Oh. As to the woman's life being basically about her kid or kids, and her not getting as far at the office. It being hard to have a "career" and kids. You vastly, vastly, exaggerate the interest and profitability of most jobs and "futures."

ACB is a very unusual woman. She is not going to be a model for most women. That's like saying "I want to be a physicist and teach at Princeton and be famous, because I want to be like Albert Einstein. He seemed to have a pretty good time."

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Verrerogo 1 point ago +1 / -0

There HAS BEEN plenty of sex education in "poor communities" for decades.

I repeat, and you don't want to hear this, people have a perfectly normal desire to have children. This operates unconsciously, until the stork has notched another win, and flies on to the next case, knowing he is a good boy, and has done his job.

What the people do AFTER THAT is another matter, and is cultural.

My attitude might be, why do you care about other people's reproducing, when you aren't doing any of your own? Is your own baby sleeping, that you have time for this? Keep your eyes on your own job and have a baby YOURSELF. Now.

But it's easier and more fun to talk about what other people should do.